FM24 - PC/Laptop advice thread *** PLEASE READ OPENING POST BEFORE POSTING ***

[grade]

1 hour ago, Smurf said:

How do you know? That's just your opinion.

 

Yes, yes it is. And stand by what I said, only a crazy billionaire, who wants to spend money like crazy, would buy MacBook Pro to play FM. The other, 99.99999999% of the people, buy MacBook Pro primarily for work, not as an exclusive for FM.

[Smurf]

3 minutes ago, grade said:

Yes, yes it is. And stand by what I said, only a crazy billionaire, who wants to spend money like crazy, would buy MacBook Pro to play FM. The other, 99.99999999% of the people, buy MacBook Pro primarily for work, not as an exclusive for FM.

Do you have stats to back up your claim? 

Here's the rub.

Buy any Mac - it doesn't matter they are all good FM. They are all flyers.

They are all priced from £999 and up to over £4000

They are all overpowered for FM. If you're buying one for work - then you must be doing some sort of
music, digital art, photography, graphic design, film editing etc. 

So if you can do all that on a Mac - you can play FM. 

It's not a very demanding game in terms of specs. 

 

And if you use a PC and do any of the things listed above - then your PC will be fine for FM too. 

 

I'm not in the habit of telling people the untruth. 

You don't have to be a billionaire - I'm not. 

I have bought for myself in the past 4 Macs at a cost of £3000 each.
£12,000 in total.

And I never did install FM on them - not sure why. 

Just have a laptop that does just as good a job and only cost £764

 

 

[grade]

7 minutes ago, Smurf said:

Do you have stats to back up your claim? 

Here's the rub.

Buy any Mac - it doesn't matter they are all good FM. They are all flyers.

They are all priced from £999 and up to over £4000

They are all overpowered for FM. If you're buying one for work - then you must be doing some sort of
music, digital art, photography, graphic design, film editing etc. 

So if you can do all that on a Mac - you can play FM. 

It's not a very demanding game in terms of specs. 

 

And if you use a PC and do any of the things listed above - then your PC will be fine for FM too. 

 

I'm not in the habit of telling people the untruth. 

You don't have to be a billionaire - I'm not. 

I have bought for myself in the past 4 Macs at a cost of £3000 each.
£12,000 in total.

And I never did install FM on them - not sure why. 

Just have a laptop that does just as good a job and only cost £764

 

 

Look, I don't impose my opinion to others, so feel free to disagree with me. But in my humble opinion, people buy Macs for works, specially for video editing, photo manipulation, graphic design and app development. They don't buy them to play video games.

Sure, PCs are less expensive and reliable machines, but people for one reason or another prefer to buy Macs for work, if it plays certain games, that is bonus.

[Smurf]

2 minutes ago, grade said:

Look, I don't impose my opinion to others, so feel free to disagree with me. But in my humble opinion, people buy Macs for works, specially for video editing, photo manipulation, graphic design and app development. They don't buy them to play video games.

Sure, PCs are less expensive and reliable machines, but people for one reason or another prefer to buy Macs for work, if it plays certain games, that is bonus.

I do graphic design, photo manipulation, video editing, animation etc...

That's my trade. 

I don't use Macs all the time. I have them. 

But I prefer to buy PCs - as they are cheaper, easier to upgrade, and outperform Macs -
and paying half the price of a Mac.

*bold part*

That's your opinion. It's not a truth.

It's an assumption.

But yes - generally people don't play games on Mac. 
Yet - here we are talking about buying a Mac to play a game... 

 

[Smurf]

There's literally no point in this conversation.

Macs are expensive.

You don't need a mac do to graphic design/video/animation etc. 

I know, I work in the industry.

I don't buy them anymore as they are too expensive. 

Much capable PC computers out there that are cheaper and do the job just as well.

[grade]

1 minute ago, Smurf said:

There's literally no point in this conversation.

Macs are expensive.

You don't need a mac do to graphic design/video/animation etc. 

I know, I work in the industry.

I don't buy them anymore as they are too expensive. 

Much capable PC computers out there that are cheaper and do the job just as well.

That is what makes sense to you, I respect that. Others, don't share that same opinion, we have simply to respect their decisions, even if they spent more money.

[Smurf]

9 minutes ago, grade said:

That is what makes sense to you, I respect that. Others, don't share that same opinion, we have simply to respect their decisions, even if they spent more money.

I never ever once said otherwise. 

*edit* and what if they don't realise they can spend less and have the same experience? 

It's great if they have more money to spend on it - but what if it helps someone realise that they don't need to spend that much...

 

 

Edited November 3, 2021 by Smurf

[grade]

7 minutes ago, Smurf said:

I never ever once said otherwise. 

*edit* and what if they don't realise they can spend less and have the same experience? 

It's great if they have more money to spend on it - but what if it helps someone realise that they don't need to spend that much...

 

 

I think the thing is, they know PCs are much less expensive, but still prefer Macs. :P

Anyway, sorry for this small interruption. Carry on.

[Smurf]

40 minutes ago, grade said:

I think the thing is, they know PCs are much less expensive, but still prefer Macs. :P

Anyway, sorry for this small interruption. Carry on.

I don't know - very general assumption.

But anyway - an interesting narrative and hopefully didn't cause too much disruption.

 

[djhagster]

Hi there, my MacBook has just had a melt down and needs a replacement screen, pre-empting a massive bill so thinking of a replacement.

I do some graphics work as well as some Djing so need a machine to cover this as well as FM. Seen this online which should do the job. Wondered if it was a bit of overkill in terms of spec https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B086XXS7XW?dchild=1&keywords=razer+blade+15+studio+edition&ref_=as_li_ss_tl&language=en_US&sr=8-3&linkCode=gs4&linkId=975648e7a15d53535082f941524f056b&tag=skatesphere21-21

 

any advice welcome. Cheers!

[corinthiano]

I am looking to buy a new laptop to end my almost 10 year hiatus on FM. Am buying it exclusively to play FM and browse the internet, so don't want to spend more than $500 (I live in the US). Ideally I would love to run 10 countries / 20 leagues on a large database, but 3-5 countries / 6-10 leagues would be good enough.

I went to the Best Buy website and filtered on what I wanted:

• Minimum Core i3
• Minimum 8GB RAM
• Screen size: 15.6"

This is what I found: https://www.bestbuy.com/site/dell-inspiron-15-3501-15-6-hd-laptop-intel-core-i5-1135g7-12gb-memory-256gb-solid-state-drive-black/6455737.p?skuId=6455737

Do you think that would do the job? Or are there better options around?

Thanks in advance for the advice!

[Damonlufc]

https://www.currys.co.uk/gbuk/computing/desktop-pcs/desktop-pcs/hp-22-df0018na-21-5-all-in-one-pc-amd-ryzen-3-256-gb-ssd-white-10207964-pdt.html

 

 

I'm guessing this (cheap) PC wouldn't be any good for FM22 , no other games will be played. Just music, pics and videos stored on it

[kevhamster]

3 hours ago, djhagster said:

Hi there, my MacBook has just had a melt down and needs a replacement screen, pre-empting a massive bill so thinking of a replacement.

I do some graphics work as well as some Djing so need a machine to cover this as well as FM. Seen this online which should do the job. Wondered if it was a bit of overkill in terms of spec https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B086XXS7XW?dchild=1&keywords=razer+blade+15+studio+edition&ref_=as_li_ss_tl&language=en_US&sr=8-3&linkCode=gs4&linkId=975648e7a15d53535082f941524f056b&tag=skatesphere21-21

 

any advice welcome. Cheers!

I think you'd likely need a larger SSD than that if you're looking at DJing and graphic work than that, but given graphic design is an area of expertise of @Smurf I'd ask his opinion, but I think spec wise it's probably fine aside from the small storage. 

[kevhamster]

3 hours ago, corinthiano said:

I am looking to buy a new laptop to end my almost 10 year hiatus on FM. Am buying it exclusively to play FM and browse the internet, so don't want to spend more than $500 (I live in the US). Ideally I would love to run 10 countries / 20 leagues on a large database, but 3-5 countries / 6-10 leagues would be good enough.

I went to the Best Buy website and filtered on what I wanted:

• Minimum Core i3
• Minimum 8GB RAM
• Screen size: 15.6"

This is what I found: https://www.bestbuy.com/site/dell-inspiron-15-3501-15-6-hd-laptop-intel-core-i5-1135g7-12gb-memory-256gb-solid-state-drive-black/6455737.p?skuId=6455737

Do you think that would do the job? Or are there better options around?

Thanks in advance for the advice!

That's a solid spec at a good price. 

[kevhamster]

1 hour ago, Damonlufc said:

https://www.currys.co.uk/gbuk/computing/desktop-pcs/desktop-pcs/hp-22-df0018na-21-5-all-in-one-pc-amd-ryzen-3-256-gb-ssd-white-10207964-pdt.html

 

 

I'm guessing this (cheap) PC wouldn't be any good for FM22 , no other games will be played. Just music, pics and videos stored on it

It will run FM but it wouldn't be brilliant. 

Did you specifically want an all in one or would you be interested in looking at laptops as well? All in ones tend to be overpriced for the spec. 

[dabest]

Hopefully this is a silly question, but I would like the conformation from people that know better than me before I make such a big purchase.

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/medion-erazer-defender-p10-nvidia-rtx-3060-16gb-17.3-144hz-fhd-intel-i7-10750h-gaming-laptop-lt-01g-md.html?__cf_chl_jschl_tk__=Lk2Ct7EYwvEaIylyEinXL9h887ohFfllhAC9EKgiMak-1636000787-0-gaNycGzNCpE

 

This is what I am ordering and would like to know if it will be fine running FM with lots of leagues loaded.

 

Thanks

[Smurf]

9 hours ago, djhagster said:

Hi there, my MacBook has just had a melt down and needs a replacement screen, pre-empting a massive bill so thinking of a replacement.

I do some graphics work as well as some Djing so need a machine to cover this as well as FM. Seen this online which should do the job. Wondered if it was a bit of overkill in terms of spec https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B086XXS7XW?dchild=1&keywords=razer+blade+15+studio+edition&ref_=as_li_ss_tl&language=en_US&sr=8-3&linkCode=gs4&linkId=975648e7a15d53535082f941524f056b&tag=skatesphere21-21

 

any advice welcome. Cheers!

Hey, what type of graphics work, and what dj software.

What software do you use most?

[Damonlufc]

8 hours ago, kevhamster said:

It will run FM but it wouldn't be brilliant. 

Did you specifically want an all in one or would you be interested in looking at laptops as well? All in ones tend to be overpriced for the spec. 

I would rather have a computer but I'm not opposed to having another laptop (mine is 9 years old and its full of rubbish to be honest)

Whatever i would have it would be used for football manager only and maybe storage for family pictures, music and videos 

[kevhamster]

1 hour ago, Damonlufc said:

I would rather have a computer but I'm not opposed to having another laptop (mine is 9 years old and its full of rubbish to be honest)

Whatever i would have it would be used for football manager only and maybe storage for family pictures, music and videos 

What is your budget?  And do you need to buy a monitor as well?

[kevhamster]

4 hours ago, dabest said:

Hopefully this is a silly question, but I would like the conformation from people that know better than me before I make such a big purchase.

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/medion-erazer-defender-p10-nvidia-rtx-3060-16gb-17.3-144hz-fhd-intel-i7-10750h-gaming-laptop-lt-01g-md.html?__cf_chl_jschl_tk__=Lk2Ct7EYwvEaIylyEinXL9h887ohFfllhAC9EKgiMak-1636000787-0-gaNycGzNCpE

 

This is what I am ordering and would like to know if it will be fine running FM with lots of leagues loaded.

 

Thanks

As per the OP, how acceptable the speed is with a large number of leagues is entirely subjective, so this is not something we will comment on.

However, it's a very strong spec and will run FM (and pretty much any other game you want to play) very well.

[right_winger]

After reading this thread a lot I think I've narrowed my choice to 3 laptops but I'm open to other suggestions

 

https://www.hihonor.com/unitedkingdom/product/honor-magicbook-pro/

This is reduced to £649 from £849 which looks like a good deal, although not sure about the 16.1 inch screen. Prefer up to 15.6 but would need to look at them side by side to be sure. Also if it's "just fine" for FM plus some older games like Commandos, Shadow Tactics etc then I guess it would be better to look at a higher spec like these two below in case I want to do something more demanding on it in the future or generally to last longer.

 

https://www.currys.co.uk/gbuk/computing/laptops/laptops/asus-vivobook-classic-14-laptop-intel-core-i7-512-gb-ssd-blue-10226078-pdt.html

Price is £999.

For some reason the spec doesn't mention graphics card. And not sure if 14" screen is comfy enough to play FM (mostly at home, only sometimes on train/plane)

 

Or this config from PC Specialist for around £1000-1050 (below is £982 but I might need to add/change something here or there):

Elimina Pro Series: 15.6" Matte Full HD 144Hz 72% NTSC LED Widescreen (1920x1080)

Intel® Core™ i7 Eight Core Processor 11800H (2.3GHz, 4.6GHz Turbo)

RAM 16GB Corsair 2400MHz SODIMM DDR4 (2 x 8GB)

Graphics Card NVIDIA® GeForce® GTX 1650 - 4.0GB GDDR6 Video RAM - DirectX® 12.1

1^st M.2 SSD Drive 256GB PCS PCIe M.2 SSD (1900 MB/R, 1100 MB/W)

Integrated 3 in 1 Card Reader (Full Size SD / SDHC / SDXC)

1 x 120W AC Adaptor

1 x 1 Metre Cloverleaf UK Power Cable

Elimina Pro Series Integrated 46Wh Lithium Ion Battery

STANDARD THERMAL PASTE FOR SUFFICIENT COOLING

2 Channel High Definition Audio + MIC/Headphone Jack

GIGABIT LAN & WIRELESS INTEL® Wi-Fi 6 AX200 (2.4 Gbps) + BT 5.0

1 x USB 3.1 PORT (Type C) + 2 x USB 3.1 PORTS + 1 x USB 2.0 PORT

ELIMINA PRO SERIES RGB BACKLIT UK KEYBOARD

Windows 11 Home 64 Bit - inc. Single Licence [KUK-00003]

NO ANTI-VIRUS SOFTWARE

INTEGRATED 1MP HD WEBCAM

3 Year Standard Warranty (1 Month Collect & Return, 1 Year Parts, 3 Year Labour)

STANDARD INSURED DELIVERY TO UK MAINLAND (MON-FRI)

Standard Build - Approximately 10 to 12 working days

 

I assume the PCS one beats the Currys one in the same price bracket but I might be missing something less obvious but important in the specs and this is where I would like to ask @Smurf and @kevhamster to have a look and advise accordingly.

 

Budget is in 700-800 area for a vfm deal which means it could be worth to wait for Black Friday deals if I zero in a specific machine.

Or around £1000 for something significantly better than that if payment can be split monthly (they can in most places these days).

Not interested in a laptop screaming GAMING in terms of the looks.

Edited November 4, 2021 by right_winger

[Damonlufc]

2 hours ago, kevhamster said:

What is your budget?  And do you need to buy a monitor as well?

Around 900. Nothing over £1000 and yes I need the whole setup, thank you for getting back to me

Edited November 4, 2021 by Damonlufc

[dabest]

2 hours ago, kevhamster said:

As per the OP, how acceptable the speed is with a large number of leagues is entirely subjective, so this is not something we will comment on.

However, it's a very strong spec and will run FM (and pretty much any other game you want to play) very well.

Thanks for the reply, would you say it is good value for the money?

[TheVerySpecialOne]

On 03/11/2021 at 13:36, Smurf said:

There's literally no point in this conversation.

Macs are expensive.

You don't need a mac do to graphic design/video/animation etc. 

I know, I work in the industry.

I don't buy them anymore as they are too expensive. 

Much capable PC computers out there that are cheaper and do the job just as well.

That's true, but when it comes to laptops, m1 macs, mac m1 air for example, are the best in terms of value for the price.

[kevhamster]

3 hours ago, right_winger said:

After reading this thread a lot I think I've narrowed my choice to 3 laptops but I'm open to other suggestions

 

https://www.hihonor.com/unitedkingdom/product/honor-magicbook-pro/

This is reduced to £649 from £849 which looks like a good deal, although not sure about the 16.1 inch screen. Prefer up to 15.6 but would need to look at them side by side to be sure. Also if it's "just fine" for FM plus some older games like Commandos, Shadow Tactics etc then I guess it would be better to look at a higher spec like these two below in case I want to do something more demanding on it in the future or generally to last longer.

 

https://www.currys.co.uk/gbuk/computing/laptops/laptops/asus-vivobook-classic-14-laptop-intel-core-i7-512-gb-ssd-blue-10226078-pdt.html

Price is £999.

For some reason the spec doesn't mention graphics card. And not sure if 14" screen is comfy enough to play FM (mostly at home, only sometimes on train/plane)

 

Or this config from PC Specialist for around £1000-1050 (below is £982 but I might need to add/change something here or there):

Elimina Pro Series: 15.6" Matte Full HD 144Hz 72% NTSC LED Widescreen (1920x1080)

Intel® Core™ i7 Eight Core Processor 11800H (2.3GHz, 4.6GHz Turbo)

RAM 16GB Corsair 2400MHz SODIMM DDR4 (2 x 8GB)

Graphics Card NVIDIA® GeForce® GTX 1650 - 4.0GB GDDR6 Video RAM - DirectX® 12.1

1^st M.2 SSD Drive 256GB PCS PCIe M.2 SSD (1900 MB/R, 1100 MB/W)

Integrated 3 in 1 Card Reader (Full Size SD / SDHC / SDXC)

1 x 120W AC Adaptor

1 x 1 Metre Cloverleaf UK Power Cable

Elimina Pro Series Integrated 46Wh Lithium Ion Battery

STANDARD THERMAL PASTE FOR SUFFICIENT COOLING

2 Channel High Definition Audio + MIC/Headphone Jack

GIGABIT LAN & WIRELESS INTEL® Wi-Fi 6 AX200 (2.4 Gbps) + BT 5.0

1 x USB 3.1 PORT (Type C) + 2 x USB 3.1 PORTS + 1 x USB 2.0 PORT

ELIMINA PRO SERIES RGB BACKLIT UK KEYBOARD

Windows 11 Home 64 Bit - inc. Single Licence [KUK-00003]

NO ANTI-VIRUS SOFTWARE

INTEGRATED 1MP HD WEBCAM

3 Year Standard Warranty (1 Month Collect & Return, 1 Year Parts, 3 Year Labour)

STANDARD INSURED DELIVERY TO UK MAINLAND (MON-FRI)

Standard Build - Approximately 10 to 12 working days

 

I assume the PCS one beats the Currys one in the same price bracket but I might be missing something less obvious but important in the specs and this is where I would like to ask @Smurf and @kevhamster to have a look and advise accordingly.

 

Budget is in 700-800 area for a vfm deal which means it could be worth to wait for Black Friday deals if I zero in a specific machine.

Or around £1000 for something significantly better than that if payment can be split monthly (they can in most places these days).

Not interested in a laptop screaming GAMING in terms of the looks.

The PC Specialist build is definitely the best one by some distance.  Neither of the other two have a dedicated graphics card, which you will want if you're looking at other games.  

[kevhamster]

1 hour ago, Damonlufc said:

Around 900. Nothing over £1000 and yes I need the whole setup, thank you for getting back to me

https://www.box.co.uk/Cube-Sparrow-v2_3634792.html?config=2303271,2335908,2472017,3814888,3934087

That will leave enough to get a monitor, keyboard and mouse.

[kevhamster]

1 hour ago, dabest said:

Thanks for the reply, would you say it is good value for the money?

It's about what I'd expect taking into account the 17.3" screen, high refresh rate display and 1TB M2 SSD.

[Smurf]

1 hour ago, TheVerySpecialOne said:

That's true, but when it comes to laptops, m1 macs, mac m1 air for example, are the best in terms of value for the price.

That's not true. Some M1 Macs are - in the 13/14 inch range the price seems fair enough compared to the market of PCs.
And only the 14 inch basic entry level. After that the price is up past the £2k mark. 

In the 13/14 inch models the price is reflective of the current market - and the best processors available. 

After that it's the 16 inch models of Mac M1 - and they are extremely price.
Starting at £2.4k

This is availbable to buy now and would be on par - if not moderatly better
https://www.box.co.uk/G513QM-HN106T-ASUS-ROG-STRIX-G15-AMD-Ryzen-9-16GB-RAM-_3569894.html

 

Edited November 4, 2021 by Smurf

[Jazzbobification]

4 hours ago, right_winger said:

https://www.hihonor.com/unitedkingdom/product/honor-magicbook-pro/

This is reduced to £649 from £849 which looks like a good deal, although not sure about the 16.1 inch screen. Prefer up to 15.6 but would need to look at them side by side to be sure. Also if it's "just fine" for FM plus some older games like Commandos, Shadow Tactics etc then I guess it would be better to look at a higher spec like these two below in case I want to do something more demanding on it in the future or generally to last longer.

I don't play any other games that are remotely graphic intensive... However, for FM - and general use, I'm enjoying the Honor Magicbook Pro. The screen looks bizarre at first, but after a few hours I actually really like it. Feels spacious without ending up with a ludicrously big/heavy laptop.

Battery life seems bloody good too, if that's a concern!

Bagged it for £599 via Box's ebay once it went back to full price/out of stock on the website.

[corinthiano]

15 hours ago, kevhamster said:

That's a solid spec at a good price. 

Thank you! Ordered it and it will arrive at my house on November 9th, it's meant to be

[Kuraihito]

Hi all,

I’m looking at a new laptop and saw @Smurf‘s list (thank you!) so on a slightly different note, can anyone recommend a monitor?  
 

I have half an eye on the MSI lappy, so I don’t really want to spend more than £200 on a screen if I can avoid it. 
 

Can you help? 

[superus1898]

Hello everyone,

 

Currently looking for a new PC and unfortunately i know very little about computers. Looking for a PC that can run FM on the highest 3D settings possible for roughly £800. Would like to play others games if thats possible on it and watch Netlfix ect. If anyone could recommend me a PC and if id need a graphics card as well that would be great. Thank you in advance. 

 

 

[Smurf]

6 hours ago, superus1898 said:

Hello everyone,

 

 Looking for a PC that can run FM on the highest 3D settings possible for roughly £800. Would like to play others games if thats possible on it and watch Netlfix ect. 

Every computer can play on the highest graphic setting possible...

What other games?

[djhagster]

On 04/11/2021 at 05:21, Smurf said:

Hey, what type of graphics work, and what dj software.

What software do you use most?

Do work on photoshop, and DJ using Serato. Probably say spend equal time using each one. 
thanks for the reply!

[LMNT-88]

On 29/10/2021 at 16:56, LMNT-88 said:

Thank you very much 👍

£600 is it worth it? Just too play FM22 and future FMs.

[kevhamster]

1 hour ago, LMNT-88 said:

£600 is it worth it? Just too play FM22 and future FMs.

For £600 that's pretty good in fairness.

[Aaron greatest FM of all time]

https://www.scan.co.uk/products/156-asus-tuf-gaming-fx506hm-fhd-240hz-i7-11800h-16gb-ddr4-1tb-nvme-ssd-6gb-rtx-3060-usb4-win10-home?gclid=Cj0KCQjwrJOMBhCZARIsAGEd4VHk4Hn_J7t4vIDwy0x1BescuoG4b4vCUDYJXXE_Ui3JurpkMB1vxoIaAnENEALw_wcB
 

How is the processor and gpu in this or is there anything better 

[kevhamster]

27 minutes ago, Aaron greatest FM of all time said:

https://www.scan.co.uk/products/156-asus-tuf-gaming-fx506hm-fhd-240hz-i7-11800h-16gb-ddr4-1tb-nvme-ssd-6gb-rtx-3060-usb4-win10-home?gclid=Cj0KCQjwrJOMBhCZARIsAGEd4VHk4Hn_J7t4vIDwy0x1BescuoG4b4vCUDYJXXE_Ui3JurpkMB1vxoIaAnENEALw_wcB
 

How is the processor and gpu in this or is there anything better 

Excellent all round and good price for the spec.

[Aaron greatest FM of all time]

8 minutes ago, kevhamster said:

Excellent all round and good price for the spec.

Will that graphics card play other games too like forza horizon 5 on game pass pc or is it too weak of card 

 

[kevhamster]

49 minutes ago, Aaron greatest FM of all time said:

Will that graphics card play other games too like forza horizon 5 on game pass pc or is it too weak of card 

 

Yes, easily.  The 3060 is a very capable card.

[superus1898]

5 hours ago, Smurf said:

Every computer can play on the highest graphic setting possible...

What other games?

I want it to run as smoothly as possible. Not triple A games but other simulator games like SIM city ect. I understand most computers can run games but I would like them to run them with high graphics and with good frames. Thanks for the reply 

 

[Xavier Lukhas]

PSA: Some of you may already be aware, but for those who cannot wait to buy an Intel Alder Lake CPU to play Football Manager 2019, 2020 or 2021 especially with Windows 10, you may want to wait a bit longer. Intel confirmed that those versions, along with several other games, have issue on their newest platform. They're working on updates, but the ETA is a fairly vague "mid-November"; whenever the new Windows 11 update releases. FM21 may not be affected if you're playing on Windows 11, but you may want to tread carefully.

https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/support/articles/000088261/processors.html

Edited November 5, 2021 by Xavier Lukhas

[Seen Better Days]

As an older FM fan I still play on my Old Macbook Pro 10.13.6

That is about as technical as I get. Last year I could not access the Beta after pre paying but when the full game was activated it worked fine. I have looked at the systems requirement page and the limited bits I know all apear fine. My question is if I managed to play the game last year would I be able to play the game this season, obviously I will now wait for the full game on nov 9th?

[Aaron greatest FM of all time]

4 hours ago, kevhamster said:

Excellent all round and good price for the spec.

So not bad purchase I was bit put off with the tuff range as previous version ran hot but reports say these are much better 

[kevhamster]

43 minutes ago, Aaron greatest FM of all time said:

So not bad purchase I was bit put off with the tuff range as previous version ran hot but reports say these are much better 

They could well get quite warm.  It's a lot of powerful components in a relatively small chassis.  But, with any of these things, read up on the reviews and make sure you're happy.

All we can really do is comment on the spec.  The thread gets busy and reading reviews on everything alongside looking at suggestions would make it pretty much unmanageable.

[Aaron greatest FM of all time]

1 hour ago, kevhamster said:

They could well get quite warm.  It's a lot of powerful components in a relatively small chassis.  But, with any of these things, read up on the reviews and make sure you're happy.

All we can really do is comment on the spec.  The thread gets busy and reading reviews on everything alongside looking at suggestions would make it pretty much unmanageable.

Yeah it’s supposed to be 20 degrees cooler than previous you do great work appriated 

[Smurf]

10 hours ago, djhagster said:

Do work on photoshop, and DJ using Serato. Probably say spend equal time using each one. 
thanks for the reply!

The best within your budget seems to be this.

https://www.box.co.uk/30031893-Medion-Erazer-P25-AMD-Ryzen-7-16GB-RAM-5_3820600.html

Although i'd consider upgrading the RAM to 32gb for photoshop work.

I'm getting mixed reviews if the 3060 is compatible with the latest version of Photoshop - but that would only affect 3D work.
Do you do 3D work in Photoshop? 

If not then this is good.

If so - let me dig around, my laptop is about to lose battery after been on for over 11 hours.

 

[Smurf]

5 hours ago, Xavier Lukhas said:

PSA: Some of you may already be aware, but for those who cannot wait to buy an Intel Alder Lake CPU to play Football Manager 2019, 2020 or 2021 especially with Windows 10, you may want to wait a bit longer. Intel confirmed that those versions, along with several other games, have issue on their newest platform. They're working on updates, but the ETA is a fairly vague "mid-November"; whenever the new Windows 11 update releases. FM21 may not be affected if you're playing on Windows 11, but you may want to tread carefully.

https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/support/articles/000088261/processors.html

Yeh - there's great things coming - which means 2 things.

The new computers will be pricier.

But the older ones with already good processors we are already recommending should become cheaper.

[dansh1989]

Hi, out of the two following links which would you decide on? Both have almost identical specs and was pretty set on the Dell but have now seen the HP Omen within my budget and could do with some advice. I want to play with a high 3d level if possible. Thanks

https://www.currys.co.uk/gbuk/gaming/pc-gaming/gaming-laptops/hp-omen-15-en1507na-15-6-gaming-laptop-amd-ryzen-7-rtx-3060-512-gb-ssd-10221936-pdt.html?istCompanyId=bec25c7e-cbcd-460d-81d5-a25372d2e3d7&istFeedId=2f489429-2329-4fcd-941a-a6a497a10e1d&istItemId=pwxpaalml&istBid=t

 

 

https://deals.dell.com/en-uk/productdetail/b8ea

 

[djhagster]

4 hours ago, Smurf said:

The best within your budget seems to be this.

https://www.box.co.uk/30031893-Medion-Erazer-P25-AMD-Ryzen-7-16GB-RAM-5_3820600.html

Although i'd consider upgrading the RAM to 32gb for photoshop work.

I'm getting mixed reviews if the 3060 is compatible with the latest version of Photoshop - but that would only affect 3D work.
Do you do 3D work in Photoshop? 

If not then this is good.

If so - let me dig around, my laptop is about to lose battery after been on for over 11 hours.

 

Thanks mate, I don’t do 3D work so this looks a good one to consider. Thanks for your time 👍