capille2 Posted October 26, 2022 Share Posted October 26, 2022 30 minutes ago, kevhamster said: When you mention streaming, are you streaming stuff yourself? If so, what specifically are you streaming? Streaming can be quite intensive to do in terms of hardware. Oh sorry I just meant streaming as in Netflix, and other apps etc Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevhamster Posted October 26, 2022 Author Share Posted October 26, 2022 12 minutes ago, capille2 said: Oh sorry I just meant streaming as in Netflix, and other apps etc Ah, coolio. That makes a big difference lol. https://www.box.co.uk/82K200C3UK-Lenovo-ideaPad-Gaming-3-AMD-Ryzen-5-8GB-_3638080.html Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
guruhd Posted October 26, 2022 Share Posted October 26, 2022 On 22/10/2022 at 17:42, kevhamster said: https://www.box.co.uk/NX.EGJEK.012-Acer-Extensa-15-Intel-Core-i5-16GB-RAM-5_4156743.html - that one is the same spec and cheaper. https://www.currys.co.uk/products/asus-vivobook-16x-x1603za-16-laptop-intel-core-i5-512-gb-ssd-silver-10240160.html - this one is £20 more but has a stronger CPU. The Curry’s one you suggested is still out of stock. I’d like to stick to Curry’s really as I can get a decent discount. How about this one? Seems to have a decent, and new processor. https://www.currys.co.uk/products/acer-aspire-5-15.6-laptop-amd-ryzen-5-512-gb-ssd-grey-10239488.html cheers Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pepito7 Posted October 26, 2022 Share Posted October 26, 2022 (edited) Hey all, for a budget of 1,000 pounds (pound sign not loading lol ) what is the most ideal laptop for FM ?? I am currently using my Mrs' Mac book pro 2022 which is 2k plus. I obviously want to get my own Laptop and I can see a Mac Book Pro 2022 for 1.2k. Are Mac Books worth the price ? Or can you get one for less than 1,000 that does the job equally as well or better than a Mac? 2022 Apple MacBook Pro 13”, M2 Processor, 8GB RAM, 256GB SSD, Space Grey available for 1.2k I wouldn't use it for anything other than FM and watching things online. Key components for me are Battery life and ventilation so that it doesn't overheat. I'm not bothered about 3D match engine but it would be nice to have 3D highlights or occasionally watch a game in 3D. Or is a Desktop more suitable ? I understand its stationary etc but would you get more bang for your buck with a desktop PC designed for gaming ? Where I could play games like CSGO, FIFA etc Edited October 26, 2022 by Pepito7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevhamster Posted October 26, 2022 Author Share Posted October 26, 2022 33 minutes ago, guruhd said: The Curry’s one you suggested is still out of stock. I’d like to stick to Curry’s really as I can get a decent discount. How about this one? Seems to have a decent, and new processor. https://www.currys.co.uk/products/acer-aspire-5-15.6-laptop-amd-ryzen-5-512-gb-ssd-grey-10239488.html cheers Yep, that'll do a job for you. Although, I'd go for this one as the CPU is a bit stronger and it's cheaper, although it is only a 14" screen so that may be a factor if you wanted a larger display: https://www.currys.co.uk/products/hp-pavilion-14ec0531sa-14-laptop-amd-ryzen-7-512-gb-ssd-blue-10229528.html Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevhamster Posted October 26, 2022 Author Share Posted October 26, 2022 19 minutes ago, Pepito7 said: Hey all, for a budget of 1,000 pounds (pound sign not loading lol ) what is the most ideal laptop for FM ?? I am currently using my Mrs' Mac book pro 2022 which is 2k plus. I obviously want to get my own Laptop and I can see a Mac Book Pro 2022 for 1.2k. Are Mac Books worth the price ? Or can you get one for less than 1,000 that does the job equally as well or better than a Mac? 2022 Apple MacBook Pro 13”, M2 Processor, 8GB RAM, 256GB SSD, Space Grey available for 1.2k I wouldn't use it for anything other than FM and watching things online. Key components for me are Battery life and ventilation so that it doesn't overheat. I'm not bothered about 3D match engine but it would be nice to have 3D highlights or occasionally watch a game in 3D. Or is a Desktop more suitable ? I understand its stationary etc but would you get more bang for your buck with a desktop PC designed for gaming ? Where I could play games like CSGO, FIFA etc Based on current prices, the better deals do seem to be with laptops at the moment. The caveat to that is laptops are far less upgradeable then desktops, so it's all down to whether that's important to you or not. And if you are looking to play FIFA, then I would recommend getting a Windows PC or laptop with a dedicated graphics card, as although the integrated GPU's in the M1/M2 based Macs are very good as far as integrated graphics go, I imagine they'd probably struggle with FIFA which does require fairly strong specs to play at a good framerate. Re: the question of "Are Macbooks worth the price" is really down to what you're wanting from the computer. Apple computers excel at things like graphic design, video and audio editing - basically very specialist functions. And of course they are known for very good build quality. If you're looking for general usage or gaming though, a Windows machine is generally much better value for money. You'll generally spend far less on a Windows computer as you would on an Apple machine with an equivalent spec. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBurns Posted October 26, 2022 Share Posted October 26, 2022 17 hours ago, kevhamster said: What lets it down: Relatively weak CPU 4GB RAM Small SSD This is a much better spec and is £50 cheaper: https://www.currys.co.uk/products/lenovo-ideapad-3i-14-laptop-intel-core-i5-256-gb-ssd-blue-10228900.html Great, thanks for the suggestion. I should have mentioned that I'd prefer a larger screen than 14' My limited tech knowledge, this looks to be the same laptop but with a 15.6' screen? https://www.currys.co.uk/products/lenovo-ideapad-3i-15.6-laptop-intel-core-i5-256-gb-ssd-blue-10240677.html Thanks Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevhamster Posted October 26, 2022 Author Share Posted October 26, 2022 1 minute ago, DBurns said: Great, thanks for the suggestion. I should have mentioned that I'd prefer a larger screen than 14' My limited tech knowledge, this looks to be the same laptop but with a 15.6' screen? https://www.currys.co.uk/products/lenovo-ideapad-3i-15.6-laptop-intel-core-i5-256-gb-ssd-blue-10240677.html Thanks It's not the same as it has a different CPU, but will still be absolutely fine. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toon army 06 Posted October 26, 2022 Share Posted October 26, 2022 I play on PC but looking in to a laptop for FM23 to. Any good ones that run as good as a PC, maybe between £200-300 even second hand? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevhamster Posted October 26, 2022 Author Share Posted October 26, 2022 (edited) 14 minutes ago, toon army 06 said: I play on PC but looking in to a laptop for FM23 to. Any good ones that run as good as a PC, maybe between £200-300 even second hand? Laptops are still PC's, just portable ones. So it's hard to know how it would compare with the performance of your PC as I have no idea what the spec of your PC is. Depending on how old your PC is, you may even find laptops from the last couple of years actually outperform it. There are some options out there in the refurb market, but nothing under £300 which is going to be great. This one at £350 is a good spec: https://www.laptopstation.co.uk/deals/ideapad-3i-14-i5-8gb-256gb-fhd/ This one at £309 isn't as good, and has much weaker integrated graphics capability so won't handle 3D graphics so well, but will handle the game if you don't mind lower 3D presets or playing in 2D: https://www.laptopstation.co.uk/deals/lenovo-ideapad-5i-intel-core-i5-8gb-ram-256gb-ssd-durable-design-14-fhd-screen-laptop/ Edited October 26, 2022 by kevhamster Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toon army 06 Posted October 26, 2022 Share Posted October 26, 2022 18 minutes ago, kevhamster said: Laptops are still PC's, just portable ones. So it's hard to know how it would compare with the performance of your PC as I have no idea what the spec of your PC is. Depending on how old your PC is, you may even find laptops from the last couple of years actually outperform it. There are some options out there in the refurb market, but nothing under £300 which is going to be great. This one at £350 is a good spec: https://www.laptopstation.co.uk/deals/ideapad-3i-14-i5-8gb-256gb-fhd/ This one at £309 isn't as good, and has much weaker integrated graphics capability so won't handle 3D graphics so well, but will handle the game if you don't mind lower 3D presets or playing in 2D: https://www.laptopstation.co.uk/deals/lenovo-ideapad-5i-intel-core-i5-8gb-ram-256gb-ssd-durable-design-14-fhd-screen-laptop/ Thanks How do I post my pc specs? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pepito7 Posted October 26, 2022 Share Posted October 26, 2022 4 hours ago, kevhamster said: Based on current prices, the better deals do seem to be with laptops at the moment. The caveat to that is laptops are far less upgradeable then desktops, so it's all down to whether that's important to you or not. And if you are looking to play FIFA, then I would recommend getting a Windows PC or laptop with a dedicated graphics card, as although the integrated GPU's in the M1/M2 based Macs are very good as far as integrated graphics go, I imagine they'd probably struggle with FIFA which does require fairly strong specs to play at a good framerate. Re: the question of "Are Macbooks worth the price" is really down to what you're wanting from the computer. Apple computers excel at things like graphic design, video and audio editing - basically very specialist functions. And of course they are known for very good build quality. If you're looking for general usage or gaming though, a Windows machine is generally much better value for money. You'll generally spend far less on a Windows computer as you would on an Apple machine with an equivalent spec. Lovely stuff many thanks top man 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevhamster Posted October 26, 2022 Author Share Posted October 26, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, toon army 06 said: Thanks How do I post my pc specs? Press Windows key & R together and in the box which comes up type dxdiag.exe. It'll open a program called the DirectX diagnostic tool and the window that it loads up will look like this: Screenshot the System and Display tabs and paste them into the forum. Edited October 26, 2022 by kevhamster Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wesleymcuk Posted October 26, 2022 Share Posted October 26, 2022 Looking at getting a new laptop with a budget up to £1,500 playing this game for years an decided nows the time to go for something that will allow me to play most of the leagues Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevhamster Posted October 26, 2022 Author Share Posted October 26, 2022 12 minutes ago, wesleymcuk said: Looking at getting a new laptop with a budget up to £1,500 playing this game for years an decided nows the time to go for something that will allow me to play most of the leagues https://www.box.co.uk/9S7-158314-067-MSI-Pulse-GL66-Intel-Core-i9-16GB-RAM-1_4103717.html Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
woteva Posted October 26, 2022 Share Posted October 26, 2022 (edited) Hello there! Found this laptop for £399 from Costco (if you're a member or have a friend that is...like me) I wondered if this was good/quick enough to play FM21/22 and 23? Have I found a bargain and maybe others might be interested in it too? To be honest, I'm still playing FM16 (long save) on my PC and looking for a laptop to play FM17/18/19 and 20 as it will be a few years before I catch up to FM23! https://www.costco.co.uk/Computers/Laptops-MacBooks/Lenovo-IdeaPad-5-Intel-Core-i5-8GB-RAM-256GB-SSD-156-Inch-Laptop-82FG01MHUK/p/391040 I will be mainly playing FM and web browsing. Edited October 26, 2022 by woteva added info Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevhamster Posted October 26, 2022 Author Share Posted October 26, 2022 35 minutes ago, woteva said: Hello there! Found this laptop for £399 from Costco (if you're a member or have a friend that is...like me) I wondered if this was good/quick enough to play FM21/22 and 23? Have I found a bargain and maybe others might be interested in it too? To be honest, I'm still playing FM16 (long save) on my PC and looking for a laptop to play FM17/18/19 and 20 as it will be a few years before I catch up to FM23! https://www.costco.co.uk/Computers/Laptops-MacBooks/Lenovo-IdeaPad-5-Intel-Core-i5-8GB-RAM-256GB-SSD-156-Inch-Laptop-82FG01MHUK/p/391040 I will be mainly playing FM and web browsing. Very good deal for the money. Will definitely handle the game quite nicely. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
displaced_seagull Posted October 26, 2022 Share Posted October 26, 2022 (edited) Hi; After a new desktop - it's been a few years and my son's PC is now chugging, so time to hand this one down to him. Currently on an Asus i5-6400 with 16GB DDR4 RAM and GTX750 2GB GFX Card. I won't need a new monitor. I usually run 50-odd nations when playing FM and can cope with the speed (slow around end of transfer windows, but pretty good for the rest of the time). Ideally I'm looking for something around the £650 mark, prepared to go a little over. I play FM extensively, dabble with Elite: Dangerous which my current setup handles, but occasionally freezes requiring a power button restart when I'm engaged in particularly big battles, and Cities: Skylines. Thanks in advance...! Edited October 26, 2022 by displaced_seagull Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
displaced_seagull Posted October 26, 2022 Share Posted October 26, 2022 Just found this one; on Amazon which seems to tick all the boxes? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevhamster Posted October 27, 2022 Author Share Posted October 27, 2022 (edited) 23 minutes ago, displaced_seagull said: Just found this one; on Amazon which seems to tick all the boxes? That's certainly a good deal in terms of desktops. This one as well: https://www.amazon.co.uk/MEDION-P66094-I5-10400-512SSD-Desktop/dp/B09KWY7PVD/ref=sr_1_6?qid=1666829534&refinements=p_n_feature_eight_browse-bin%3A27344122031%2Cp_36%3A-70000%2Cp_n_operating_system_browse-bin%3A27413268031|27413271031|27413272031|27413278031&rnid=182766031&s=computers&sr=1-6 The one I've linked has a weaker CPU but with a better graphics card, which may be the better option if you're thinking of playing the Odyssey expansion for Elite Dangerous as that seems to be quite graphically demanding. Edit: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Acer-Nitro-N50-620-Gaming-i5-11400F/dp/B097HF1LG2/ref=psdc_340832031_t1_B09KWY7PVD This one is actually CPU closer to the one your link had, but still with the better graphics card. Edited October 27, 2022 by kevhamster 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
displaced_seagull Posted October 27, 2022 Share Posted October 27, 2022 2 minutes ago, kevhamster said: That's certainly a good deal in terms of desktops. This one as well: https://www.amazon.co.uk/MEDION-P66094-I5-10400-512SSD-Desktop/dp/B09KWY7PVD/ref=sr_1_6?qid=1666829534&refinements=p_n_feature_eight_browse-bin%3A27344122031%2Cp_36%3A-70000%2Cp_n_operating_system_browse-bin%3A27413268031|27413271031|27413272031|27413278031&rnid=182766031&s=computers&sr=1-6 The one I've linked has a weaker CPU but with a better graphics card, which may be the better option if you're thinking of playing the Odyssey expansion for Elite Dangerous as that seems to be quite graphically demanding. Thank you. Gentleman and a scholar. You're not too far down the coast, so if you ever find yourself in East Sussex and want to take in a random Step 6 game, give me a shout and I'll put you on the guest list. As for Elite.... TBH I've avoided Odyssey so far as I struggle to land the thing (Krait Mk2 at present) on planets as it is 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevhamster Posted October 27, 2022 Author Share Posted October 27, 2022 4 minutes ago, displaced_seagull said: Thank you. Gentleman and a scholar. You're not too far down the coast, so if you ever find yourself in East Sussex and want to take in a random Step 6 game, give me a shout and I'll put you on the guest list. As for Elite.... TBH I've avoided Odyssey so far as I struggle to land the thing (Krait Mk2 at present) on planets as it is Odyssey doesn't seem to be very well optimised. It has some interesting ideas, but I think Frontier dropped the ball a bit with it. I still just like running Passenger missions in a Beluga, or going exploring in an Asp Explorer! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
larryloaf Posted October 27, 2022 Share Posted October 27, 2022 Asus AMD ryzen5 3600x Graphics card: nvidea GeForce 1660ti 6gb Storage: hdd1tb ssd 256gb 16HB DDR4 Ram My main thing will be FM but will play other games I will want to run a large DB and ideally 5 big euro leagues, Brazil, Argy and maybe South Africa and Australia. I was hoping that it would be hoping to still be at 4 out of 5 starts for speed This is a second hand system im looking at. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevhamster Posted October 27, 2022 Author Share Posted October 27, 2022 (edited) 7 hours ago, larryloaf said: Asus AMD ryzen5 3600x Graphics card: nvidea GeForce 1660ti 6gb Storage: hdd1tb ssd 256gb 16HB DDR4 Ram My main thing will be FM but will play other games I will want to run a large DB and ideally 5 big euro leagues, Brazil, Argy and maybe South Africa and Australia. I was hoping that it would be hoping to still be at 4 out of 5 starts for speed This is a second hand system im looking at. That's a similar spec to my desktop PC (although I've got the standard 3600 rather than the 3600x and the 1660 Super). It's a decent spec. What sort of price are you being charged for it? Edited October 27, 2022 by kevhamster Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fmno3 Posted October 27, 2022 Share Posted October 27, 2022 7 hours ago, larryloaf said: Asus AMD ryzen5 3600x Graphics card: nvidea GeForce 1660ti 6gb Storage: hdd1tb ssd 256gb 16HB DDR4 Ram My main thing will be FM but will play other games I will want to run a large DB and ideally 5 big euro leagues, Brazil, Argy and maybe South Africa and Australia. I was hoping that it would be hoping to still be at 4 out of 5 starts for speed This is a second hand system im looking at. Judging by this video (time code 3:19) you could probably run 7 nations with a large database and reach a four star rating. Regardless, the Ryzen 5 3600x is still a good CPU and the rest of this PC's spec isn't bad either. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
larryloaf Posted October 28, 2022 Share Posted October 28, 2022 Thanks Chaps Its part of a bundle that im looking at but id say £500 for the desk top Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevhamster Posted October 28, 2022 Author Share Posted October 28, 2022 20 minutes ago, larryloaf said: Thanks Chaps Its part of a bundle that im looking at but id say £500 for the desk top Good price, even for pre-owned. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsmithy15 Posted October 30, 2022 Share Posted October 30, 2022 Hi there, looking to buy a new laptop. Ideally would like a 17” screen as I do some video analysis work so larger screen is useful. Main use for football manager and speed of the game would be important. Budget of around £1300 many thanks for reading. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevhamster Posted October 30, 2022 Author Share Posted October 30, 2022 1 hour ago, jsmithy15 said: Hi there, looking to buy a new laptop. Ideally would like a 17” screen as I do some video analysis work so larger screen is useful. Main use for football manager and speed of the game would be important. Budget of around £1300 many thanks for reading. https://www.box.co.uk/9S7-17L314-404-MSI-Pulse-GL76-Intel-Core-i7-16GB-RAM-1T_4143523.html Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattwall28 Posted October 30, 2022 Share Posted October 30, 2022 Evening chaps. do you think my MacBook Pro (2017) will cope with the new FM? Latest one I played was 21, loads fine 4/5 star rating with 5 leagues loaded. Can’t remember if I could watch 3D, I think I could but noisy. Or is there would be a better option for £5/600? Only if necessary. many thanks Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevhamster Posted October 30, 2022 Author Share Posted October 30, 2022 46 minutes ago, Mattwall28 said: Evening chaps. do you think my MacBook Pro (2017) will cope with the new FM? Latest one I played was 21, loads fine 4/5 star rating with 5 leagues loaded. Can’t remember if I could watch 3D, I think I could but noisy. Or is there would be a better option for £5/600? Only if necessary. many thanks The CPU will run the game, although it won't be massively quick. The question mark though is the OS. FM23 requires MacOS 11 or higher, so if 10.13.6 is the newest OS it's compatible with then FM23 simply won't run on it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SI Staff EdL Posted October 30, 2022 SI Staff Share Posted October 30, 2022 pretty sure a 2017 mac should be updatable, to it, 10.13 is very out of date now - should be updating anyway, certainly 10.13 doesn't receive security fixes anymore 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattwall28 Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 Thanks both. Just updated to the latest OIS and running a dream! Will give it another year at least for an upgrade. All the best. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivs Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 (edited) Hi there. I'm looking to replace my old 15.6" notebook with a new 14" model for more portability. My eyes went on two specific ASUS models, but I'm happy to listen any suggestion about other notebook in the 14" form factor region. - Asus Vivobook 14 Pro: https://www.laptoparena.net/asus/notebook-asus-vivobook-m3401qc-km068w-90nb0vf2-m001k0-blue-82780 - Asus Zephyrus G14: https://www.laptoparena.net/asus/notebook-asus-rog-ga401qc-k2175w-90nr05t3-m002t0-blackgrey-82493 Now a bit of analysis and context. - Display: the Vivobook 14 has an OLED panel which should be visually better than the IPS one on the Zephyrus G14. However, I'm aware of potential burn-in issues on OLED panels. Apparently ASUS introduced a few options to prevent or reduce this problem, but we're going into uncharted territories with OLED in notebboks, so the display longevity in the Vivobook 14 it's not clear. - CPU: Ryzen 5 5600H vs Ryzen 7 5800HS. Which one is better? What is the gap in performance between them? - GPU: RTX 3050 for both models. A bit meh, not a great graphics card. It should be sufficient to run the game at the highest settings. I'm not a triple AAA gamer, so I hope to play in high presets in games like FM, F1 Manager and FIFA for the next 4-5 years. Maybe even Crusader Kings or Cities Skylines, but they aren't on the top of my list. - RAM: both have 16GB. However, it's soldered to the motherboard on the Vivobook, so no upgrades for it. The Zephyrus G14 have 8GB soldered to the mo-bo and 8GB separated, so there's room for future upgrades, which is nice if I want to increase the life span of the PC. - Price: last, but not least, it's an important discriminating factor. I could buy the Vivobook 14 Pro for €793 in my region, while the Zephyrus G14 is priced at €966. I'd like to stay below the €1000 threshold, so they both tick the option, but which one to choose in terms of durability, battery life, display, processor and general build quality? Should I bite the bullet and go for the Zephyrus G14 or just pick the Vivobook 14? Thanks in advance and sorry for the long post. Edited October 31, 2022 by Ivs Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevhamster Posted October 31, 2022 Author Share Posted October 31, 2022 47 minutes ago, Ivs said: Hi there. I'm looking to replace my old 15.6" notebook with a new 14" model for more portability. My eyes went on two specific ASUS models, but I'm happy to listen any suggestion about other notebook in the 14" form factor region. - Asus Vivobook 14 Pro: https://www.laptoparena.net/asus/notebook-asus-vivobook-m3401qc-km068w-90nb0vf2-m001k0-blue-82780 - Asus Zephyrus G14: https://www.laptoparena.net/asus/notebook-asus-rog-ga401qc-k2175w-90nr05t3-m002t0-blackgrey-82493 Now a bit of analysis and context. - Display: the Vivobook 14 has an OLED panel which should be visually better than the IPS one on the Zephyrus G14. However, I'm aware of potential burn-in issues on OLED panels. Apparently ASUS introduced a few options to prevent or reduce this problem, but we're going into uncharted territories with OLED in notebboks, so the display longevity in the Vivobook 14 it's not clear. - CPU: Ryzen 5 5600H vs Ryzen 7 5800HS. Which one is better? What is the gap in performance between them? - GPU: RTX 3050 for both models. A bit meh, not a great graphics card. It should be sufficient to run the game at the highest settings. I'm not a triple AAA gamer, so I hope to play in high presets in games like FM, F1 Manager and FIFA for the next 4-5 years. Maybe even Crusader Kings or Cities Skylines, but they aren't on the top of my list. - RAM: both have 16GB. However, it's soldered to the motherboard on the Vivobook, so no upgrades for it. The Zephyrus G14 have 8GB soldered to the mo-bo and 8GB separated, so there's room for future upgrades, which is nice if I want to increase the life span of the PC. - Price: last, but not least, it's an important discriminating factor. I could buy the Vivobook 14 Pro for €793 in my region, while the Zephyrus G14 is priced at €966. I'd like to stay below the €1000 threshold, so they both tick the option, but which one to choose in terms of durability, battery life, display, processor and general build quality? Should I bite the bullet and go for the Zephyrus G14 or just pick the Vivobook 14? Thanks in advance and sorry for the long post. https://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/AMD-Ryzen-7-5800HS-vs-AMD-Ryzen-5-5600H/m1463823vsm1522632 Not much between the two CPU's, although the Ryzen 7 does edge it. As you say, OLEDs on laptops aren't that common, so hard to judge. IPS panels are known for good contrast, colour accuracy and wide viewing angles though, so I don't think you'd have anything to worry about from an IPS display. OLED panels also tend to be more power hungry, so I'd suspect that the one with the IPS panel would have the better battery life assuming both come with the same battery. Both are ASUS so I'd expect similar build quality for both. In your shoes, I'd probably go for the Zephyrus of the two. The RTX 3050 will be fine for what you're looking to do. I can't find anything to beat those as the prices you've given. 14" laptops with a dedicated graphic card are harder to come by, and tend to be well over the budget you've stated. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bohsjohn Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 Would this laptop be good enough to play the game well or could I get something better in that price range? https://www.currys.ie/products/hp-pavilion-14ec0537sa-14-laptop-amd-ryzen-5-256-gb-ssd-blue-10229545.html Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevhamster Posted October 31, 2022 Author Share Posted October 31, 2022 1 hour ago, Bohsjohn said: Would this laptop be good enough to play the game well or could I get something better in that price range? https://www.currys.ie/products/hp-pavilion-14ec0537sa-14-laptop-amd-ryzen-5-256-gb-ssd-blue-10229545.html Yes, it'd be absolutely fine and I can't see better for that price. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ItsComingHome Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 On 03/10/2021 at 18:21, kevhamster said: https://www.box.co.uk/39P48EAABU-HP-Pavilion-15-ec1002na-AMD-Ryzen-5-8GB-_3561212.html If you mean this one, then yes it'll be absolutely fine for what you're wanting. Hi Kev. You recommended this almost exactly a year ago. I'm getting a BSOD and I think there is a decent chance I'll get to return it and my money back. So I'm looking for a replacement and probably an upgrade. My thought is I've had a free year out of it so sticking £300 or £400 onto the budget to around £900/£1000 is absolutely fine. Means it makes it slightly more future proofed too. I've had zero issues with the laptop until the last couple of weeks. Appreciate any help you can give. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevhamster Posted October 31, 2022 Author Share Posted October 31, 2022 3 minutes ago, ItsComingHome said: Hi Kev. You recommended this almost exactly a year ago. I'm getting a BSOD and I think there is a decent chance I'll get to return it and my money back. So I'm looking for a replacement and probably an upgrade. My thought is I've had a free year out of it so sticking £300 or £400 onto the budget to around £900/£1000 is absolutely fine. Means it makes it slightly more future proofed too. I've had zero issues with the laptop until the last couple of weeks. Appreciate any help you can give. https://www.box.co.uk/M3500QC-L1081W-ASUS-VivoBook-Pro-15-AMD-Ryzen-7-16GB-RA_4084857.html Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ItsComingHome Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 thanks, that looks ideal. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rossy86 Posted November 2, 2022 Share Posted November 2, 2022 Evening guys. Looking for new laptop. For me it will be mainly FM and some Netflix / Amazon / Disney Etc streaming. My wife might use it for some very basic level photo editing (just a hobby) I’ve been back and forth over a gaming laptop or not, I like this one as the screen is sizeable, and I believe it will be quieter than a gaming laptop? Will this be good enough to run FM? Or am I overpaying for what I am getting I am not too knowledgeable about Computers/Laptops. https://www.argos.co.uk/product/1481312?clickPR=plp:5:10 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Revan1 Posted November 2, 2022 Share Posted November 2, 2022 (edited) Hi just wondering if anyone knows or can link me to a cheapish laptop that can run fm23? It would be my first one so I don’t know anything about specs etc haha thank you in advance Edited November 2, 2022 by Revan1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheScottish42 Posted November 2, 2022 Share Posted November 2, 2022 Hi guys! Will this run FM23 and if so what do you think with how many leagues running etc? Many thanks in advance! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
StozzleB Posted November 2, 2022 Share Posted November 2, 2022 Evening all, Actually asking for a friend, but he said his laptop is "slow, like very very slow" and keeps dropping FM23. His specs are attached (I know nothing about computers). The laptop is brand new bought just to use FM. Any ideas? Thanks Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GuitarMan Posted November 2, 2022 Share Posted November 2, 2022 1 hour ago, StozzleB said: Evening all, Actually asking for a friend, but he said his laptop is "slow, like very very slow" and keeps dropping FM23. His specs are attached (I know nothing about computers). The laptop is brand new bought just to use FM. Any ideas? Thanks I can't remember the specs off the top of my head - but my gut says that is below the minimum recommended. That is not to say the game won't run on it - it might - but the experience may not be anywhere close to ideal (which I believe is what your friend is describing) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevhamster Posted November 2, 2022 Author Share Posted November 2, 2022 2 hours ago, TheScottish42 said: Hi guys! Will this run FM23 and if so what do you think with how many leagues running etc? Many thanks in advance! Yes, it will run FM23. As per the OP, we can't comment on how many leagues it will run to your satisfaction. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevhamster Posted November 2, 2022 Author Share Posted November 2, 2022 2 hours ago, StozzleB said: Evening all, Actually asking for a friend, but he said his laptop is "slow, like very very slow" and keeps dropping FM23. His specs are attached (I know nothing about computers). The laptop is brand new bought just to use FM. Any ideas? Thanks It's not below the minimum specs, but that processor is about as weak as you can get on a current laptop. Intel Celerons are very low power CPU's which aren't really any good for anything more than very basic usage and web browsing. And I don't imagine the 3D match engine will run at all well on it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevhamster Posted November 2, 2022 Author Share Posted November 2, 2022 3 hours ago, Revan1 said: Hi just wondering if anyone knows or can link me to a cheapish laptop that can run fm23? It would be my first one so I don’t know anything about specs etc haha thank you in advance Define cheapish - we need to know how much you can afford to spend. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevhamster Posted November 2, 2022 Author Share Posted November 2, 2022 4 hours ago, rossy86 said: Evening guys. Looking for new laptop. For me it will be mainly FM and some Netflix / Amazon / Disney Etc streaming. My wife might use it for some very basic level photo editing (just a hobby) I’ve been back and forth over a gaming laptop or not, I like this one as the screen is sizeable, and I believe it will be quieter than a gaming laptop? Will this be good enough to run FM? Or am I overpaying for what I am getting I am not too knowledgeable about Computers/Laptops. https://www.argos.co.uk/product/1481312?clickPR=plp:5:10 It's a decent laptop. I'm not sure I'd call it overpriced with that CPU in it, and it should be quieter than a gaming laptop and if you're after a larger screen it's probably about as good as you'll get for the price for a non-gaming laptop. https://www.box.co.uk/FX706HCB-HX147W-ASUS-TUF-Gaming-F17-Intel-Core-i5-16GB-R_4341533.html - that's a gaming laptop alternative at the same price. The CPU isn't quite as strong as the one from Argos, but it's still very decent and has a dedicated graphics card. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheScottish42 Posted November 2, 2022 Share Posted November 2, 2022 7 minutes ago, kevhamster said: Yes, it will run FM23. As per the OP, we can't comment on how many leagues it will run to your satisfaction. Thank you, I was only thinking a round 6/9 leagues max and noted regarding the OP! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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