Style Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 No dark skin, same poor UI from beta, and the israeli league is still unplayable because of bugs. wished for better release but hope SI will fix things. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GuitarMan Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 As Neil Brock stated early in the feedback thread - the editor has been released, it is propagating the servers. It may take some time, but it will be with you. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fabregas_04 Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 1 minute ago, GOODNAME said: Pretty sad that there is not single change in the match day UI.. Simple things like add player face to the goal scorer, and add the name of the player who assist To be fair they've managed to add a bug to the tablet 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajw10 Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 9 minutes ago, orlyzao said: Anyone who can't still get editor try using this command in your browser: steam://install/1436120 It should ask for permission to start downloading the Editor You are a genius 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
metal_guitarist Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 Not sure how many times it needs to be said guys but be patient. It's still propagating and there's god knows how many people around the world trying to access it. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bugeja Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 5 minutes ago, Melwasul said: A genuine question, why would anyone need pregame editor or ingame editor within minutes the game is out? I have never used the pre-game editor before but want to make some changes before starting a long term save (add u23 squad to serie a team) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GOODNAME Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 1 minute ago, Fabregas_04 said: To be fair they've managed to add a bug to the tablet Yep.. now i have 1 screen less there Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melwasul Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 1 dakika önce, agiannop said: Because we have paid for the pregame Editor. That's not an answer for my question though, is it? It is clearly rolling out for everyone, I was asking why would anyone need it immediately. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
isce2008 Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 malta I updated the football manager 2021 on steam but the folders football manager 2021 editor and football manager 2021 Resource Archiver do not appear. Do you know what's going on? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
grade Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 1 minute ago, Melwasul said: That's not an answer for my question though, is it? It is clearly rolling out for everyone, I was asking why would anyone need it immediately. Quite clear to change things in the database... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post FrazT Posted November 23, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted November 23, 2020 1 minute ago, Melwasul said: That's not an answer for my question though, is it? It is clearly rolling out for everyone, I was asking why would anyone need it immediately. It is irrelevant as to why any user wishes to use the editor- it's their game and they can do what they want with it and it is no concern to others. 11 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Womaz Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 Sorry for my ignorance again. I have to pay for the ingame editor? Do I have to pay for this every year? If i do then how do I pay for it..........I think I am getting a little confused. I have downloaded the editor in steam, but this is not the one I am looking for Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dagenham_Dave Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 Just now, Melwasul said: That's not an answer for my question though, is it? It is clearly rolling out for everyone, I was asking why would anyone need it immediately. Because people want to start their main save, and if there is something they want to edit that can't be changed during a save, then it has to be done before they create the save. That's why I'm looking for it anyway, however it's not a major hassle, I have two long term saves in mind, and the other one doesn't need the change I want for the first one. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
metal_guitarist Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 1 minute ago, Melwasul said: That's not an answer for my question though, is it? It is clearly rolling out for everyone, I was asking why would anyone need it immediately. Personally I add in the updates and issues that haven't made data lock before starting a long term save. Some use it to create their Lower League files or custom competitions before playing the game as well. There's plenty of use for it. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
metal_guitarist Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 Just now, Womaz said: Sorry for my ignorance again. I have to pay for the ingame editor? Do I have to pay for this every year? If i do then how do I pay for it..........I think I am getting a little confused. I have downloaded the editor in steam, but this is not the one I am looking for Yes, the in-game editor is a paid for add-on and you pay for it with each edition of the game. I believe it's been the same price since it's released (£3.99 in the UK) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
anagain Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 12 minutes ago, PoeticOtter said: I've not bought the game this year. The match engine improvements are encouraging but I also saw the amount of bugs reported in the beta and decided against pre-ordering. If I could see what had been fixed for the full release it could sway me to purchase it but instead I'll hold on to my cash. It's baffling how paying customers give up their time to report bugs (often in some detail) only for Si not to even bother to say if it has been fixed. Then try the demo. It's simple enough. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrazT Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 1 minute ago, Womaz said: Sorry for my ignorance again. I have to pay for the ingame editor? Do I have to pay for this every year? If i do then how do I pay for it..........I think I am getting a little confused. I have downloaded the editor in steam, but this is not the one I am looking for Yes this is a one -off version purchase- you buy it from within the game and follow the instructions there, I assume. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmitch19 Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 Issues found and reported from the beta - that are still present - need to be reported again? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SmurfDude Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 As if they were going to overhaul the UI within the space of 2 weeks. Some of you have no idea what development involves. First impressions of the ME are positive. I'll no doubt have very little sleep for the next few days. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
metal_guitarist Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 Just now, isce2008 said: malta I updated the football manager 2021 on steam but the folders football manager 2021 editor and football manager 2021 Resource Archiver do not appear. Do you know what's going on? Providing that you have selected the "Tools" option in Steam to be shown in your library, there is currently a delay for some users for being able to download the editor and resource archiver. It will be there but you will need to be patient unfortunately. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
agiannop Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 So many of us creating updates , in order to have more accurate roasters for the teams , especially for Lower League Levels. We are not cheating as you may think. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melwasul Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 1 dakika önce, Dagenham_Dave said: Because people want to start their main save, and if there is something they want to edit that can't be changed during a save, then it has to be done before they create the save. That's why I'm looking for it anyway, however it's not a major hassle, I have two long term saves in mind, and the other one doesn't need the change I want for the first one. 1 dakika önce, metal_guitarist said: Personally I add in the updates and issues that haven't made data lock before starting a long term save. Some use it to create their Lower League files or custom competitions before playing the game as well. There's plenty of use for it. Thank you for the answers, I don't get it why do people get so offended over a simple question. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LolloViola Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 3 minuti fa, Womaz ha scritto: Sorry for my ignorance again. I have to pay for the ingame editor? Do I have to pay for this every year? If i do then how do I pay for it..........I think I am getting a little confused. I have downloaded the editor in steam, but this is not the one I am looking for IN-game editor for real time changes has to be purchased (on steam or directly while playing) 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Ace Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 Oooof, the goalscorers shows up on the tactic screen in game, cool Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
metal_guitarist Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 Just now, Melwasul said: Thank you for the answers, I don't get it why do people get so offended over a simple question. Welcome to the Internet 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
isce2008 Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 1 minute ago, metal_guitarist said: Providing that you have selected the "Tools" option in Steam to be shown in your library, there is currently a delay for some users for being able to download the editor and resource archiver. It will be there but you will need to be patient unfortunately. thanks Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
anagain Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 15 minutes ago, AllyJoseph said: It's quite difficult to give accurate feedback when there are no patch notes or release notes to tell us what has changed, so I'm going to reiterate my previous feedback that Brexit needs balancing with the rest of the game as it's currently not working. Brexit's work permit system = good Brexit's balance following work permit system = bad. No offence intended, but that is a rubbish conclusion. Just give feedback on the final version. If you think something is broken, bug it. If you have opinions on how something is in the release version of the game, give feedback. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrazT Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 3 minutes ago, mmitch19 said: Issues found and reported from the beta - that are still present - need to be reported again? Yes- they may well have been logged and in the queue for fixing, but it is always worth making sure 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharkn20 Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 57 minutes ago, Mikal said: So dark. This is the only gripe I have with the skin, these comically white boxes. SI must have shares in Boots opticians or Specsavers the rate our retinas are going to be burned away. The rest of the skin flows really well. Shame. That hurts my eyes too... Don't know why we didn't get the dark version of the skin like last year... 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Ace Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 Pass %'s seem to have been brought down to a normal level Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
grade Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 2 minutes ago, Melwasul said: Thank you for the answers, I don't get it why do people get so offended over a simple question. It was a mix of impatience and anxiety to have the editor. Many people need to have the editor to change a few things to strat their long term save game. Sometimes that involve adding lower league or roster changes or many other things. Have look on editor section of these forums and you will understand. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnhughthom Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 13 minutes ago, GuitarMan said: As Neil Brock stated early in the feedback thread - the editor has been released, it is propagating the servers. It may take some time, but it will be with you. Propagating is a great word. Thank you for brightening my evening. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Ace Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 Shouts in the match UI have been changed Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post AllyJoseph Posted November 23, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted November 23, 2020 2 minutes ago, anagain said: No offence intended, but that is a rubbish conclusion. Just give feedback on the final version. If you think something is broken, bug it. If you have opinions on how something is in the release version of the game, give feedback. Why? How can I compare the beta to the final version without knowing what's been change? What if something was rare and difficult to replicate? I've already reported both the bug of scouts only suggesting people who can't get work permits and the balance of brexit which lead to club visions that are impossible to meet due to the new restrictions. How do I know if the balance of a game has been addressed, if there's no notes telling us what they have done to address the balance? I can only assume no balance changes have been made, as such the problem still persists. It's pretty standard practice to release patch notes....I don't think it's an unreasonable request... 16 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ImDaWeasel Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 Just now, Johnny Ace said: Shouts in the match UI have been changed Still that very fine line between praise and berate.... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieTC13 Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 (edited) I've noticed so many things that still havent been fixed i just don't get it i've reported these things along with many others about the bugs but not one of them apart from the training schedules as been fixed, what's the point in getting us to report them if they ain't going to get fixed there is still even a bug from FM20 the opposition tactics pitch the players positions are still out of position like the Attacking mid being in the center mid position, i'm giving up reporting things That bug is from 2020 in the pic i've posted is from 2020 and still in 21 that ain't good SI what's going on there Edited November 23, 2020 by jckc221013jamie 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ImDaWeasel Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 Thank god they brought in the moveable touchline tablet. Though it does reset everytime. And the grey is gone! Replaced by purple but still a much less of an eyesore! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrazT Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 Just to clarify: There are always changelists for updates. This is the full release and not an update and so there is no changelist. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kertiek Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 the ME definitely feels different at least in the backline passing, they are not pirlo any more, a lot more realistic/better 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
anagain Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 2 minutes ago, AllyJoseph said: Why? How can I compare the beta to the final version without knowing what's been change? What if something was rare and difficult to replicate? I've already reported both the bug of scouts only suggesting people who can't get work permits and the balance of brexit which lead to club visions that are impossible to meet due to the new restrictions. How do I know if the balance of a game has been addressed, if there's no notes telling us what they have done to address the balance? I can only assume no balance changes have been made, as such the problem still persists. It's pretty standard practice to release patch notes....I don't think it's an unreasonable request... SI will know. As was answered just above your post, bug it again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
themadsheep2001 Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 3 minutes ago, AllyJoseph said: Why? How can I compare the beta to the final version without knowing what's been change? What if something was rare and difficult to replicate? I've already reported both the bug of scouts only suggesting people who can't get work permits and the balance of brexit which lead to club visions that are impossible to meet due to the new restrictions. How do I know if the balance of a game has been addressed, if there's no notes telling us what they have done to address the balance? I can only assume no balance changes have been made, as such the problem still persists. It's pretty standard practice to release patch notes....I don't think it's an unreasonable request... They arent going to release patch notes for full release, they never do. Whether you agree with this or not isn't going to change it. We don't need 4 pages of people arguing over patch notes that aren't coming 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LolloViola Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 ...any feedbacks about ME? Still "delightful" reactions as beta? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PoeticOtter Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 10 minutes ago, anagain said: Then try the demo. It's simple enough. It's really not that simple. Often bugs occur further into a save, beyond the duration of the demo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dagenham_Dave Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 4 minutes ago, AllyJoseph said: It's pretty standard practice to release patch notes....I don't think it's an unreasonable request... It's not a patch though, it's the full release of the game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrazT Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 1 minute ago, LolloViola said: ...any feedbacks about ME? Still "delightful" reactions as beta? The fact that there have been no negative comments about the ME would suggest that the reaction is still good. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ImDaWeasel Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 2 minutes ago, LolloViola said: ...any feedbacks about ME? Still "delightful" reactions as beta? Its good. Feels alot more balanced after 5 games. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DementedHammer Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 (edited) 31 minutes ago, Melwasul said: A genuine question, why would anyone need pregame editor or ingame editor within minutes the game is out? Before starting my main save, I wait for a lower league English system to become available, so, while I am waiting, I spend the first few weeks of release in the editor more than in the actual game. Since FM19, I've always spent the first few weeks making a lower league NZ editor file, so that others can play in New Zealand should they choose to do so. I'm not one of those shouting for the editor though — I'm currently in the office, and having it available right now would be too much temptation. Edited November 23, 2020 by DementedHammer 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AllyJoseph Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 Just now, themadsheep2001 said: They arent going to release patch notes for full release, they never do. Whether you agree with this or not isn't going to change it. We don't need 4 pages of people arguing over patch notes that aren't coming I've mentioned it once, I've never been part of the day one rush on the forum, not everyone has time or the inclination to know every single FM release standard practice. If they don't, they don't, fair enough, I'm not here to argue if they should or not it's their game and their prerogative. I gave my initial opinion of its hard to give feedback different to beta feedback if I don't know what's different. 2 minutes ago, anagain said: SI will know. As was answered just above your post, bug it again. I'm not going to repeatedly report things as a bug, it's been mentioned, there's threads for it. I don't have the time or patience to repeatedly tell the creators of a game that it's balance is broken. If they like it, it'll stay as it is, if they don't they'll change it. What they HAVE done is asked for feedback, I've given the feedback. To be uppity about someone giving said feedback means its pointless to engage in asking for feedback. There's too many people who take an instantly attacking/defensive stance on these forums and it leads to actual issues getting lumped in with non-issues because they sound similar and discussions quickly turn into arguments. Chill. It's ok. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DementedHammer Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 (edited) I completely understand SI's reasons for not having a change log on a GR software package. However, I can also see why those that were heavily involved in the reporting of issues in the beta would like additional information about some of the changes that have been implemented. Edited November 23, 2020 by DementedHammer 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supermercado99 Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 Brings a tear to my eye seeing so much love for the editor. For now this will have to substitute for actually seeing the editor. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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