EURO 2020(1?) football forum average draft

[Yuko]

And RVN is also SF1 for Harry

[Harryseaess]

I'm sure I've missed this and I'm about to get shot down, but just so I can check...

The winners don't also count as semi-final/final picks do they?

So we're allowed 2 winners PLUS 3 players from semi-finals/finals?

[Yuko]

2 minutes ago, Harryseaess said:

I'm sure I've missed this and I'm about to get shot down, but just so I can check...

The winners don't also count as semi-final/final picks do they?

So we're allowed 2 winners PLUS 3 players from semi-finals/finals?

Max 1 player per nation

Max 2 players who won the EURO

Max 3 more players who appeared in semi-finals or final

 

It's like Blatter's 6+5 rule. 6 mere participants, 3 semi-finalists that never won + 2 who won the thing.

[adhikapp]

Bastard, Hazard was literally one of my next picks. Hold on a sec.

[adhikapp]

**** off my other next pick was Raul. **** everyone. Wait a sec.

[Hazzaj]

I was hoping to sneak in a Srna pick somewhere in the middle rounds damn, guess it's nice to know that there are other appreciators of his skills out there though

[adhikapp]

Weezer: 1. Cristiano Ronaldo (Portugal W1);

Darius1998: 1. Robert Lewandowski (Poland);

Barry Cartman: 1. Lothar Matthäus (Germany W1);

Jorg:  1. Marco Van Basten (Netherlands W1);

bestbrother: 1. Zinedine Zidane (France W1);

Baptista_8: 1. Xavi (Spain W1);

Hazzaj: 1. Johan Cruyff (Netherlands SF1);

grff:  1. Thierry Henry (France W1);

Marius_R:  1. Arjen Robben (Netherlands SF1);

PaulHartman71: 1. Paolo Maldini (Italy SF1);

Kawee: 1. Hristo Stoichkov (Bulgaria);

The Golden Boy: 1. Sergio Ramos (Spain W1);

Butts: 1. Kevin De Bruyne (Belgium);

Haguey: 1. Andres Iniesta (Spain W1);

Citizen Kane: 1. Zlatan Ibrahimović (Sweden);

Yuko: 1. Franz Beckenbauer (Germany W1);

sjg11: 1. Sergio Garcia (Spain W1);

adhikapp: 1. Michel Platini (France W1); 2. John Terry (England); 3. Ruud Gullit (Netherlands W2);

managerdude_66: 1. David Alaba (Austria); 2. Eden Hazard (Belgium); 3. Darijo Srna (Croatia);

SRL88: 1. Steven Gerrard (England); 2. Raul (Spain); 3. Dennis Bergkamp (Netherlands SF1); 

Sano: 1. Gerd Müller (Germany W1); 2. Lilian Thuram (France W2); 3. Luis Figo (Portugal SF1);

trueblue.85: 1.Peter Schmeichel (Denmark W1); 2. Didier Deschamps (France W2); 3. Pavel Nedved (Czech Rep SF1);

SouthCoastRed: 1. Jurgen Klinsmann (Germany W1); 2. Ronald Koeman (Netherlands W2); 3. N'Golo Kante (France SF1);

MaxeyN17: 1. Harry Kane (England); 2. Fabio Cannavaro (Italy SF1); 3. Michael Laudrup (Denmark SF2);

Harryseaess: 1. Eric Cantona (France); 2. Ruud van Nistelrooy (Netherlands SF1); 3. Xabi Alonso (Spain W1);

Scott1892: 1. Gheorghe Hagi (Romania); 2. Alan Shearer (England, SF1); 3. Franco Baresi (Italy, SF2);

Crispypaul: 1. Bobby Moore (England SF1); 2. Edwin van der Sar (Netherlands SF2); 3. Andrei Kanchelskis (Russia);

XuluBak: 1. Bobby Charlton (England SF1); 2. Alessandro Nesta (Italy SF2); 3. Luka Modrić (Croatia);

Muzzza: 1. Harald Schumacher (Germany W1); 2. Giorgio Ferrini (Italy W2); 3. Nigel De Jong (Netherlands);

 

 

• Austria: David Alaba
• Belgium: Kevin De Bruyne; Eden Hazard
• Bulgaria: Hristo Stoichkov
• Croatia: Darijo Srna; Luka Modrić
• Czech Republic: Pavel Nedved
• Denmark: Peter Schmeichel; Michael Laudrup
• England: Steven Gerrard; Harry Kane; Alan Shearer; Bobby Moore; Bobby Charlton; John Terry
• France: Zinedine Zidane; Thierry Henry; Michel Platini; Eric Cantona; Lilian Thuram; Didier Deschamps; N'Golo Kante
• Germany: Lothar Matthäus; Franz Beckenbauer; Gerd Müller; Jurgen Klinsmann; Harald Schumacher
• Italy: Paolo Maldini; Franco Baresi; Fabio Cannavaro; Alessandro Nesta; Giorgio Ferrini
• Netherlands: Johan Cruyff; Arjen Robben; Dennis Bergkamp; Ronald Koeman; Ruud van Nistelrooy; Edwin van der Sar; Nigel De Jong; Marco van Basten; Ruud Gullit
• Poland: Robert Lewandowski
• Portugal: Cristiano Ronaldo; Luis Figo
• Romania: Gheorghe Hagi 
• Russia: Andrei Kanchelskis
• Spain: Xavi; Sergio Ramos; Andres Iniesta; Sergio Garcia; Raul; Xabi Alonso
• Sweden: Zlatan Ibrahimović

[PaulHartman71]

Srna one of those names id never remember unless actually researched the squads  

Hoping it won’t come to that until at least pick 7-8  

[adhikapp]

@sjg11you're up mate

[Citizen Sandman]

4 minutes ago, PaulHartman71 said:

Srna one of those names id never remember unless actually researched the squads  

Hoping it won’t come to that until at least pick 7-8  

****ing so good on old FM's

[Haguey]

15 minutes ago, PaulHartman71 said:

Srna one of those names id never remember unless actually researched the squads  

Hoping it won’t come to that until at least pick 7-8  

I have a long list of over 100 names

Keeps getting shorter though 

[Sano]

Just now, Haguey said:

I have a long list of over 100 names

Keeps getting shorter though 

Same here. I also have a list of duds 

[Barry Cartman]

For the 1st time in draft history, it was definitely better to be lower down the order   

[Yuko]

This is painfully slow  

I'm almost up and I'm pretty sure my next picks will be sometime on Monday at best.

[Sano]

I think we should up the tempo and reduce the window to 2 hours to pick.

[Marius_R]

At this rate, the final of this will be played on Boxing Day. 

[Yuko]

Just now, Sano said:

I think we should up the tempo and reduce the window to 2 hours to pick.

It takes roughly 2 hours per pick now with the 4 hour window. 

[Haguey]

The tournament doesn't even start for three weeks, chill out.

[Barry Cartman]

Should be like Chess, everyone gets 5 Hours to make all their picks, so if you took 3 hours in Round 1, you've got 2 Hours left on your clock 

[PaulHartman71]

I think 2 hour slots would be pretty difficult for most people with work, different time zones etc. It’s only taking so long because there’s double the amount of people than in a usual draft  

[Yuko]

5 minutes ago, PaulHartman71 said:

I think 2 hour slots would be pretty difficult for most people with work, different time zones etc. It’s only taking so long because there’s double the amount of people than in a usual draft  

A problem is that people are actually active but they don't bother to pay attention that they may be up soon. 

 

I'm not sure if @sjg11 will make any picks for example, he's been in this thread whilst he was up and also when he was one pick away. Should I have to wait 3 hours for example? If I'm not gonna be around, I will probably send a list to Gunman anyway, but the current rules place no obligation on me to care about the draft order. 

 

I think notifying 3 people that their turn will be up is sufficient and they should come up with a list if they are online at the time. Four hours each means we'll have just 1/3 of the people picking every day and by the 5/6th rounds half the people will not even bother.

[SouthCoastRed]

4 minutes ago, Yuko said:

means we'll have just 1/3 of the people picking every day and by the 5/6th rounds half the people will not even bother.

Have you played one of these before? 
That’s normal 

[GunmaN1905]

And I thought that I maybe made the topic too early.

[Harryseaess]

48 minutes ago, Barry Cartman said:

For the 1st time in draft history, it was definitely better to be lower down the order   

100%

[Harryseaess]

I don't understand people's eagerness to fly through the draft.

4 hours is fine. It's even quicker in this draft compared to others because everyone is picking 2 players at a time and therefore everyone has less turns than a normal draft.

[GunmaN1905]

Idk, we'll see about that.

Early picks got the best players already and by the time it goes back down, 4 more players will be picked by each team and I'm not sure about the number of top class players left.

[adhikapp]

4 minutes ago, GunmaN1905 said:

And I thought that I maybe made the topic too early.

Don't be harsh on yourself, you made this topic the day the Euro subforum was launched. The number of participants is the time killer but makes it more unpredictable 

[GunmaN1905]

Tbh, 2x the participants, but 2x the players picked, so it should take around the same amount of time.

[Haguey]

You're doing a grand job, Gunman son. /Liverpool meme

[sjg11]

Here, considering my options. 

[Yuko]

Just now, sjg11 said:

Here, considering my options. 

Honestly, I'd be extremely generous with your picks if they fell to me   

[GunmaN1905]

4 minutes ago, Haguey said:

/Liverpool meme

Hmm, I'm trying to figure this out.

[sjg11]

Weezer: 1. Cristiano Ronaldo (Portugal W1);

Darius1998: 1. Robert Lewandowski (Poland);

Barry Cartman: 1. Lothar Matthäus (Germany W1);

Jorg:  1. Marco Van Basten (Netherlands W1);

bestbrother: 1. Zinedine Zidane (France W1);

Baptista_8: 1. Xavi (Spain W1);

Hazzaj: 1. Johan Cruyff (Netherlands SF1);

grff:  1. Thierry Henry (France W1);

Marius_R:  1. Arjen Robben (Netherlands SF1);

PaulHartman71: 1. Paolo Maldini (Italy SF1);

Kawee: 1. Hristo Stoichkov (Bulgaria);

The Golden Boy: 1. Sergio Ramos (Spain W1);

Butts: 1. Kevin De Bruyne (Belgium);

Haguey: 1. Andres Iniesta (Spain W1);

Citizen Kane: 1. Zlatan Ibrahimović (Sweden);

Yuko: 1. Franz Beckenbauer (Germany W1);

sjg11: 1. Sergio Garcia (Spain W1);  2. Rio Ferdinand (England); 3. Jaap Stam (Holland, SF1)

adhikapp: 1. Michel Platini (France W1); 2. John Terry (England); 3. Ruud Gullit (Netherlands W2);

managerdude_66: 1. David Alaba (Austria); 2. Eden Hazard (Belgium); 3. Darijo Srna (Croatia);

SRL88: 1. Steven Gerrard (England); 2. Raul (Spain); 3. Dennis Bergkamp (Netherlands SF1); 

Sano: 1. Gerd Müller (Germany W1); 2. Lilian Thuram (France W2); 3. Luis Figo (Portugal SF1);

trueblue.85: 1.Peter Schmeichel (Denmark W1); 2. Didier Deschamps (France W2); 3. Pavel Nedved (Czech Rep SF1);

SouthCoastRed: 1. Jurgen Klinsmann (Germany W1); 2. Ronald Koeman (Netherlands W2); 3. N'Golo Kante (France SF1);

MaxeyN17: 1. Harry Kane (England); 2. Fabio Cannavaro (Italy SF1); 3. Michael Laudrup (Denmark SF2);

Harryseaess: 1. Eric Cantona (France); 2. Ruud van Nistelrooy (Netherlands SF1); 3. Xabi Alonso (Spain W1);

Scott1892: 1. Gheorghe Hagi (Romania); 2. Alan Shearer (England, SF1); 3. Franco Baresi (Italy, SF2);

Crispypaul: 1. Bobby Moore (England SF1); 2. Edwin van der Sar (Netherlands SF2); 3. Andrei Kanchelskis (Russia);

XuluBak: 1. Bobby Charlton (England SF1); 2. Alessandro Nesta (Italy SF2); 3. Luka Modrić (Croatia);

Muzzza: 1. Harald Schumacher (Germany W1); 2. Giorgio Ferrini (Italy W2); 3. Nigel De Jong (Netherlands);

 

 

• Austria: David Alaba
• Belgium: Kevin De Bruyne; Eden Hazard; 
• Bulgaria: Hristo Stoichkov
• Croatia: Darijo Srna; Luka Modrić
• Czech Republic: Pavel Nedved
• Denmark: Peter Schmeichel; Michael Laudrup
• England: Steven Gerrard; Harry Kane; Alan Shearer; Bobby Moore; Bobby Charlton; John Terry; Rio Ferdinand
• France: Zinedine Zidane; Thierry Henry; Michel Platini; Eric Cantona; Lilian Thuram; Didier Deschamps; N'Golo Kante
• Germany: Lothar Matthäus; Franz Beckenbauer; Gerd Müller; Jurgen Klinsmann; Harald Schumacher
• Italy: Paolo Maldini; Franco Baresi; Fabio Cannavaro; Alessandro Nesta; Giorgio Ferrini
• Netherlands: Johan Cruyff; Arjen Robben; Dennis Bergkamp; Ronald Koeman; Ruud van Nistelrooy; Edwin van der Sar; Nigel De Jong; Marco van Basten; Ruud Gullit; Jaap Stam
• Poland: Robert Lewandowski
• Portugal: Cristiano Ronaldo; Luis Figo
• Romania: Gheorghe Hagi 
• Russia: Andrei Kanchelskis
• Spain: Xavi; Sergio Ramos; Andres Iniesta; Sergio Garcia; Raul; Xabi Alonso
• Sweden: Zlatan Ibrahimović

[GunmaN1905]

Quote

 

 3. Jaap Stam (Holland, SF1)

3. Ruud Gullit (Netherlands W2);

 

[Yuko]

Weezer: 1. Cristiano Ronaldo (Portugal W1);

Darius1998: 1. Robert Lewandowski (Poland);

Barry Cartman: 1. Lothar Matthäus (Germany W1);

Jorg:  1. Marco Van Basten (Netherlands W1);

bestbrother: 1. Zinedine Zidane (France W1);

Baptista_8: 1. Xavi (Spain W1);

Hazzaj: 1. Johan Cruyff (Netherlands SF1);

grff:  1. Thierry Henry (France W1);

Marius_R:  1. Arjen Robben (Netherlands SF1);

PaulHartman71: 1. Paolo Maldini (Italy SF1);

Kawee: 1. Hristo Stoichkov (Bulgaria);

The Golden Boy: 1. Sergio Ramos (Spain W1);

Butts: 1. Kevin De Bruyne (Belgium);

Haguey: 1. Andres Iniesta (Spain W1);

Citizen Kane: 1. Zlatan Ibrahimović (Sweden);

Yuko: 1. Franz Beckenbauer (Germany W1); 2. Frank Rijkaard (Netherlands W2); 3. Andriy Shevchenko (Ukraine);

sjg11: 1. Sergio Garcia (Spain W1);  2. Rio Ferdinand (England); 3. Jaap Stam (Netherlands, SF1);

adhikapp: 1. Michel Platini (France W1); 2. John Terry (England); 3. Ruud Gullit (Netherlands W2);

managerdude_66: 1. David Alaba (Austria); 2. Eden Hazard (Belgium); 3. Darijo Srna (Croatia);

SRL88: 1. Steven Gerrard (England); 2. Raul (Spain); 3. Dennis Bergkamp (Netherlands SF1); 

Sano: 1. Gerd Müller (Germany W1); 2. Lilian Thuram (France W2); 3. Luis Figo (Portugal SF1);

trueblue.85: 1.Peter Schmeichel (Denmark W1); 2. Didier Deschamps (France W2); 3. Pavel Nedved (Czech Rep SF1);

SouthCoastRed: 1. Jurgen Klinsmann (Germany W1); 2. Ronald Koeman (Netherlands W2); 3. N'Golo Kante (France SF1);

MaxeyN17: 1. Harry Kane (England); 2. Fabio Cannavaro (Italy SF1); 3. Michael Laudrup (Denmark SF2);

Harryseaess: 1. Eric Cantona (France); 2. Ruud van Nistelrooy (Netherlands SF1); 3. Xabi Alonso (Spain W1);

Scott1892: 1. Gheorghe Hagi (Romania); 2. Alan Shearer (England, SF1); 3. Franco Baresi (Italy, SF2);

Crispypaul: 1. Bobby Moore (England SF1); 2. Edwin van der Sar (Netherlands SF2); 3. Andrei Kanchelskis (Russia);

XuluBak: 1. Bobby Charlton (England SF1); 2. Alessandro Nesta (Italy SF2); 3. Luka Modrić (Croatia);

Muzzza: 1. Harald Schumacher (Germany W1); 2. Giorgio Ferrini (Italy W2); 3. Nigel De Jong (Netherlands);

 

 

• Austria: David Alaba
• Belgium: Kevin De Bruyne; Eden Hazard; 
• Bulgaria: Hristo Stoichkov
• Croatia: Darijo Srna; Luka Modrić
• Czech Republic: Pavel Nedved
• Denmark: Peter Schmeichel; Michael Laudrup
• England: Steven Gerrard; Harry Kane; Alan Shearer; Bobby Moore; Bobby Charlton; John Terry; Rio Ferdinand
• France: Zinedine Zidane; Thierry Henry; Michel Platini; Eric Cantona; Lilian Thuram; Didier Deschamps; N'Golo Kante
• Germany: Lothar Matthäus; Franz Beckenbauer; Gerd Müller; Jurgen Klinsmann; Harald Schumacher
• Italy: Paolo Maldini; Franco Baresi; Fabio Cannavaro; Alessandro Nesta; Giorgio Ferrini
• Netherlands: Johan Cruyff; Arjen Robben; Dennis Bergkamp; Ronald Koeman; Ruud van Nistelrooy; Edwin van der Sar; Nigel De Jong; Marco van Basten; Ruud Gullit; Jaap Stam; Frank Rijkaard
• Poland: Robert Lewandowski
• Portugal: Cristiano Ronaldo; Luis Figo
• Romania: Gheorghe Hagi 
• Russia: Andrei Kanchelskis
• Spain: Xavi; Sergio Ramos; Andres Iniesta; Sergio Garcia; Raul; Xabi Alonso
• Sweden: Zlatan Ibrahimović
• Ukraine: Andriy Shevchenko

Edited May 20, 2021 by Yuko

[Yuko]

@Citizen Kaneyou're up

[Haguey]

Rio Ferdinand (amazingly) never made a Euro's squad @sjg11

Not called up in 2000, drug ban in 2004, England didn't qualify in 2008 and he wasn't called up for "footballing reasons" in 2012 even though we all know it's because Roy wanted Terry.

Edited May 20, 2021 by Haguey

[Yuko]

1 minute ago, Haguey said:

Rio Ferdinand (amazingly) never made a Euro's squad @sjg11

Ooooh. Does that mean I get to pick for him?  

[sjg11]

Ah cut that, add in... ummm... hang on a sec... 

[Hazzaj]

3 minutes ago, Haguey said:

Rio Ferdinand (amazingly) never made a Euro's squad @sjg11

Keegan didn't pick him in 2000, banned in 2004 for missing a drugs test, didn't qualify in 2008, and left out by Hodgson in 2012 as he was getting old and slowing down... brutal.

Edited May 20, 2021 by Hazzaj

[Barry Cartman]

3 minutes ago, Haguey said:

Rio Ferdinand (amazingly) never made a Euro's squad @sjg11

Not called up in 2000, drug ban in 2004, England didn't qualify in 2008 and he retired from internationals in 2011.

You should have kept that one for the end like Gunmans caps

[sjg11]

Add in Matthias Sammer (Germany, Winner 2) 

[Kawee]

1 hour ago, Barry Cartman said:

For the 1st time in draft history, it was definitely better to be lower down the order   

Oh definitely.

Having 3 picks in is an advantage.

[GunmaN1905]

Weezer: 1. Cristiano Ronaldo (Portugal W1);

Darius1998: 1. Robert Lewandowski (Poland);

Barry Cartman: 1. Lothar Matthäus (Germany W1);

Jorg:  1. Marco Van Basten (Netherlands W1);

bestbrother: 1. Zinedine Zidane (France W1);

Baptista_8: 1. Xavi (Spain W1);

Hazzaj: 1. Johan Cruyff (Netherlands SF1);

grff:  1. Thierry Henry (France W1);

Marius_R:  1. Arjen Robben (Netherlands SF1);

PaulHartman71: 1. Paolo Maldini (Italy SF1);

Kawee: 1. Hristo Stoichkov (Bulgaria);

The Golden Boy: 1. Sergio Ramos (Spain W1);

Butts: 1. Kevin De Bruyne (Belgium);

Haguey: 1. Andres Iniesta (Spain W1);

Citizen Kane: 1. Zlatan Ibrahimović (Sweden);

Yuko: 1. Franz Beckenbauer (Germany W1); 2. Frank Rijkaard (Netherlands W2); 3. Andriy Shevchenko (Ukraine);

sjg11: 1. Sergio Garcia (Spain W1);  2. Matthias Sammer (Germany W1); 3. Jaap Stam (Netherlands, SF1);

adhikapp: 1. Michel Platini (France W1); 2. John Terry (England); 3. Ruud Gullit (Netherlands W2);

managerdude_66: 1. David Alaba (Austria); 2. Eden Hazard (Belgium); 3. Darijo Srna (Croatia);

SRL88: 1. Steven Gerrard (England); 2. Raul (Spain); 3. Dennis Bergkamp (Netherlands SF1); 

Sano: 1. Gerd Müller (Germany W1); 2. Lilian Thuram (France W2); 3. Luis Figo (Portugal SF1);

trueblue.85: 1.Peter Schmeichel (Denmark W1); 2. Didier Deschamps (France W2); 3. Pavel Nedved (Czech Rep SF1);

SouthCoastRed: 1. Jurgen Klinsmann (Germany W1); 2. Ronald Koeman (Netherlands W2); 3. N'Golo Kante (France SF1);

MaxeyN17: 1. Harry Kane (England); 2. Fabio Cannavaro (Italy SF1); 3. Michael Laudrup (Denmark SF2);

Harryseaess: 1. Eric Cantona (France); 2. Ruud van Nistelrooy (Netherlands SF1); 3. Xabi Alonso (Spain W1);

Scott1892: 1. Gheorghe Hagi (Romania); 2. Alan Shearer (England, SF1); 3. Franco Baresi (Italy, SF2);

Crispypaul: 1. Bobby Moore (England SF1); 2. Edwin van der Sar (Netherlands SF2); 3. Andrei Kanchelskis (Russia);

XuluBak: 1. Bobby Charlton (England SF1); 2. Alessandro Nesta (Italy SF2); 3. Luka Modrić (Croatia);

Muzzza: 1. Harald Schumacher (Germany W1); 2. Giorgio Ferrini (Italy W2); 3. Nigel De Jong (Netherlands);

 

 

• Austria: David Alaba
• Belgium: Kevin De Bruyne; Eden Hazard; 
• Bulgaria: Hristo Stoichkov
• Croatia: Darijo Srna; Luka Modrić
• Czech Republic: Pavel Nedved
• Denmark: Peter Schmeichel; Michael Laudrup
• England: Steven Gerrard; Harry Kane; Alan Shearer; Bobby Moore; Bobby Charlton; John Terry;
• France: Zinedine Zidane; Thierry Henry; Michel Platini; Eric Cantona; Lilian Thuram; Didier Deschamps; N'Golo Kante
• Germany: Lothar Matthäus; Franz Beckenbauer; Gerd Müller; Jurgen Klinsmann; Harald Schumacher; Matthias Sammer
• Italy: Paolo Maldini; Franco Baresi; Fabio Cannavaro; Alessandro Nesta; Giorgio Ferrini
• Netherlands: Johan Cruyff; Arjen Robben; Dennis Bergkamp; Ronald Koeman; Ruud van Nistelrooy; Edwin van der Sar; Nigel De Jong; Marco van Basten; Ruud Gullit; Jaap Stam; Frank Rijkaard
• Poland: Robert Lewandowski
• Portugal: Cristiano Ronaldo; Luis Figo
• Romania: Gheorghe Hagi 
• Russia: Andrei Kanchelskis
• Spain: Xavi; Sergio Ramos; Andres Iniesta; Sergio Garcia; Raul; Xabi Alonso
• Sweden: Zlatan Ibrahimović
• Ukraine: Andriy Shevchenko

[Haguey]

What time do I get to pick @Citizen Kane's two?

[Vynal Seven]

2 hours ago, Barry Cartman said:

You should have kept that one for the end like Gunmans caps

Yeah, leave it to the end and then call Gunman a bellend for not keeping on top of his draft. 

[GunmaN1905]

18 minutes ago, Vynal Seven said:

Yeah, leave it to the end and then call Gunman a bellend for not keeping on top of his draft. 

Go away, this is a proper draft with top tier organization.
Until shambles happen, don't post here.

 

Btw, I'm not home tonight so when Citizen Kane's 4h are up, Haguey can do the honours.

[Haguey]

[SRL88]

2 hours ago, GunmaN1905 said:

sjg11: 1. Sergio Garcia (Spain W1); 2. Matthias Sammer (Germany W1); 3. Jaap Stam (Netherlands, SF1);

Speaking of shambles...

[trueblue.85]

What is the rule on your 11 picks in regards to formation is it a set 442 or can we go for a 352, 343, 451?