TracksuitManager Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 Decided to update to FM22 and wow after playing for 10 mins my head hurts. So much data and so overwhelming. Any good Youtubers to recommend who do beginner guides? Feel like I'm going to back to FM12 soon. thanks Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fc.cadoni Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 A good start. Some principles apply for FM22 (and older versions as well). 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caketiger Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 I loved FM12 - probably my favourite. I think it's the one I played most because I had the time back then. I have never been a fan of setting training schedules and didn't even need a 3D engine. I am one of the dying breed of 2D "dot" watchers. In later years, I went 2D for the match and 3D for the replays. I also have no interest in the social media updates - although I accept I am probably in the minority there. 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smurf Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 I'm an Fm12er - have been for a long time. I've tried 13/14/15/16/17/18/19/20/21 ---- and always come back to FM12. Messi at his prime. Legendary game. Can play 100 seasons and start over. I love it. I cannot get into the other versions at all and I played from CM days all the way up to FM12. Long time player. I'm literally on the fence whether to get 22 this year. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
naterego93 Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 Man FM 12 is a solid 2nd favorite of mine due to it being fun to play and even watch AI teams Duke it out on a full match, good times 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
grade Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 I know the feeling, I played FM07 for 11 years, until a windows 10 upgrade, force me to stop playing the game. Now I'm on Mac can't play since it doesn't run a 32 bit applications. :P 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Morgan Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 I understand where you're coming from. I upgraded to FM19 from CM 99/00! It was a bit of a shock at first I tell you! I soon found out the areas I wanted to run myself (e.g. training), areas I wanted to delegate (e.g. scouting), and areas I had no interest in (e.g. social media/medical centre). I really enjoy playing FM19 and even bought FM20 too! Think that's me done with buying new versions (well maybe for the next 20 years or so - ha!). Hope you get your head around FM22, and there is no shame in returning to FM12 (I still play 99/00). 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johan 14 Cruyff Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 Click on staff click on responsibility and set them to do most of the stuff, training, media, scoutings etc play a season like this as you get used to the new features. Then over time start taking control of t=these things again bit by bit. The game while feel less overwhelming this way. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malicious Penguin Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 FM2014 is my most played FM (based on Steam, so 2012 onwards). Going to reinstall 12, and give it a go, wish me luck! 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fc.cadoni Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 9 minutes ago, Malicious Penguin said: FM2014 is my most played FM (based on Steam, so 2012 onwards). Going to reinstall 12, and give it a go, wish me luck! Where you can check that in Steam? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigmattb28 Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 I still played FM17 from that release date until last night. For me it's the best one. Whilst I like FM22 beta, it still seems to run a bit slower than 17 for me, and I don't know what it is about 17 that I keep going back to, maybe the ME, layout of the skin, whatever it is it always hooks me back on. I know I'll put 1,000+ hours into 22 most likely, and I'll really enjoy it but I just know I'll load up 17 again. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigmattb28 Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 13 minutes ago, Malicious Penguin said: FM2014 is my most played FM (based on Steam, so 2012 onwards). Going to reinstall 12, and give it a go, wish me luck! My laptop doesn't have a disk drive, and the first FM I installed on steam was 13 so wouldn't be able to go back that far. I do still have discs of some old FM's in my loft. If I remember rightly FM12 was when inside forwards were the in thing. Fun times man 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dagenham_Dave Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 1 minute ago, bigmattb28 said: I still played FM17 from that release date until last night. For me it's the best one. Whilst I like FM22 beta, it still seems to run a bit slower than 17 for me, and I don't know what it is about 17 that I keep going back to, maybe the ME, layout of the skin, whatever it is it always hooks me back on. I know I'll put 1,000+ hours into 22 most likely, and I'll really enjoy it but I just know I'll load up 17 again. No game has looked better aesthetically than FM17, by far the most polished looking game of the entire series. I think though, I would miss too many of the newer features to ever go back. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
grade Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 5 minutes ago, fc.cadoni said: Where you can check that in Steam? All games that you bought on steam are in the same list. if doesn't show it because something is preventing from installing the game. if didn't buy at the time, well there is no way to install it. For example I can't go lower then FM18, because in recent versions of MacOS only allows to run 64 bit apps, no go for 32 bits. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fc.cadoni Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 10 minutes ago, grade said: All games that you bought on steam are in the same list. if doesn't show it because something is preventing from installing the game. if didn't buy at the time, well there is no way to install it. For example I can't go lower then FM18, because in recent versions of MacOS only allows to run 64 bit apps, no go for 32 bits. I thought was a list - filter based on users; not only me. I got it. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Ace Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 21 minutes ago, Dagenham_Dave said: No game has looked better aesthetically than FM17, by far the most polished looking game of the entire series. I think though, I would miss too many of the newer features to ever go back. That's the thing about the older FMs, they're fun to go back to a & play but you don't half miss all the new stuff that was added over the years Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zemahh Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 15 hours ago, fc.cadoni said: A good start. Some principles apply for FM22 (and older versions as well). Appreciate the link. 15 hours ago, TracksuitManager said: Any good Youtubers to recommend who do beginner guides? Lollujo and DoctorBenjy are probably the most casual ones. They both play the game in a very relaxed way, usually just selecting presets and leaving most of the stuff to assistant. If you want someone more advanced, maybe Zealand or BusttheNet. FM Scout is also great for quick tips on various topics. Honestly, it may look intimidating, but basic principles of tactics and regen hunting are still largely the same. Don't be afraid to delegate stuff you're not interested in, FM is very customizable in that regard. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigmattb28 Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 40 minutes ago, Zemahh said: Appreciate the link. Lollujo and DoctorBenjy are probably the most casual ones. They both play the game in a very relaxed way, usually just selecting presets and leaving most of the stuff to assistant. If you want someone more advanced, maybe Zealand or BusttheNet. FM Scout is also great for quick tips on various topics. Honestly, it may look intimidating, but basic principles of tactics and regen hunting are still largely the same. Don't be afraid to delegate stuff you're not interested in, FM is very customizable in that regard. There's literally no FM youtubers I like, definitely not those you listed. Nothing personal I just don't like watching them. Also for me FM isn't really a game I would want to watch someone else playing either. It's not exactly a spectator sports is it. However each to their own and if you enjoy watching them more power to ya' friend! For me though I like playing it and debating it on here. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigmattb28 Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 1 hour ago, Dagenham_Dave said: No game has looked better aesthetically than FM17, by far the most polished looking game of the entire series. I think though, I would miss too many of the newer features to ever go back. Aye sure is man. I do like some of the newer features, but 17 was just perfection for me. Still can't wait for 22 full game though, there's only so much of the beta I can get into without wanting to get properly invested as I would the full release. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevhamster Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 2 hours ago, Dagenham_Dave said: No game has looked better aesthetically than FM17, by far the most polished looking game of the entire series. I think though, I would miss too many of the newer features to ever go back. FM17 is the one game in the series I never bought. I did look at getting it via a Steam key reseller but the prices were insane. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevedaytona Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 2 hours ago, Malicious Penguin said: FM2014 is my most played FM (based on Steam, so 2012 onwards). Going to reinstall 12, and give it a go, wish me luck! FM12 is my most played (going back to FM10 for me). FM14 comes in 4th but still more than double as much time as any of the 5 latest versions. FM22 is off to a good start though Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kccircle Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 12 hours ago, Smurf said: I'm an Fm12er - have been for a long time. I've tried 13/14/15/16/17/18/19/20/21 ---- and always come back to FM12. Messi at his prime. Legendary game. Can play 100 seasons and start over. I love it. I cannot get into the other versions at all and I played from CM days all the way up to FM12. Long time player. I'm literally on the fence whether to get 22 this year. Do player updates exist for these older versions? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuryBlade Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 Zealand has a lot of great, helpful FM videos on YouTube and I think he’s pretty funny too. FM12 is my favourite of the series and the one I spent most time on in the Steam era. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
vishers Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 7 hours ago, grade said: All games that you bought on steam are in the same list. if doesn't show it because something is preventing from installing the game. if didn't buy at the time, well there is no way to install it. For example I can't go lower then FM18, because in recent versions of MacOS only allows to run 64 bit apps, no go for 32 bits. I’m playing fm17 on a Mac with the latest OS. It warns me it may not run as it’s 32 bit but then runs fine. It’s fm17 touch in case that makes a difference? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
grade Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 2 hours ago, vishers said: I’m playing fm17 on a Mac with the latest OS. It warns me it may not run as it’s 32 bit but then runs fine. It’s fm17 touch in case that makes a difference? Not sure, never tried it. I will try it out. thanks Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
naterego93 Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 I am still on 17, 21 was great however but something always lured me in. Plus it looks pretty as Hell Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smurf Posted November 4, 2021 Share Posted November 4, 2021 8 hours ago, kccircle said: Do player updates exist for these older versions? No idea Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DasMagicMullet Posted November 4, 2021 Share Posted November 4, 2021 Never played FM12, but FM08 is one that I'll always go back to when I want to batter through season after season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
naterego93 Posted November 5, 2021 Share Posted November 5, 2021 Honestly after spending a couple hours of playing 12 again made me realize it's actually so much fun, so much so that I went back to it with data pack updates (especially Nikk3' & pr0's running together) the match engine is too damn fun even if you're just watching AI vs AI lol Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nonlondoner Posted November 5, 2021 Share Posted November 5, 2021 If I could take FM12's layout and put FM22's 3d engine in it, I'd be very happy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigmattb28 Posted November 5, 2021 Share Posted November 5, 2021 6 minutes ago, Nonlondoner said: If I could take FM17's layout and put FM22's 3d engine in it, I'd be very happy. Changed that for you 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
phnompenhandy Posted November 6, 2021 Share Posted November 6, 2021 (edited) I've been playing FM19, but I fancy going more retro. FM17 still has an attractive 3D engine. Is there any website available that has a clear and succinct list of new features per iteration. I need to assess how far back I can go without losing features that are necessary to me. EDIT: Scrap that. I've got the lower league file and add-ons for FM18 - I'll go with that. Edited November 6, 2021 by phnompenhandy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Svenc Posted November 6, 2021 Share Posted November 6, 2021 (edited) FM12 too I played for quite a while, but I couldn't possibly go back to it (as there's little sense of achievement, in particular if you're aware of its flaws). One of which being AI due to a selection bug frequently never shielding their backline and/or somebody in midfield protecting from counters/easy advances into their half. That's like playing a supposedly football management sim when your opponent isn't Klopp et. all, but somebody who hasn't ever watched a match of football and somehow still got the management job. I reckon though that's actually a part of why it's still some popular. Not that I'd go back to that anyway, currently happily playing the new Pathfinder game -- which unlike most mainstream computer RPGs these days delightfully made me wonder for hours in its character creation already what kind of character I should pick (there's like twenty classes, each with sub classes, the various races, traits, etc. to boot). These are fairly niche games nowadays on the RPG front, whereas the mainstream prefers open-world action/shooter games with barely characters systems such as the new Fallouts -- or The Witcher, a game full of barely interactive movie-like cutscenes witcher-sensing itself if you ever tackle a quest (hit a button and magically all the steps required to complete a quest appear in glowing red). I mean, preferences, and that's all mighty fine in my book. But there might be a connection here. Edited November 6, 2021 by Svenc Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HowzatFM Posted November 6, 2021 Share Posted November 6, 2021 (edited) On 03/11/2021 at 14:07, Zemahh said: Appreciate the link. Lollujo and DoctorBenjy are probably the most casual ones. They both play the game in a very relaxed way, usually just selecting presets and leaving most of the stuff to assistant. If you want someone more advanced, maybe Zealand or BusttheNet. FM Scout is also great for quick tips on various topics. Honestly, it may look intimidating, but basic principles of tactics and regen hunting are still largely the same. Don't be afraid to delegate stuff you're not interested in, FM is very customizable in that regard. Workthespace is my favourite but FMStinger has some really nice tactical videos on roles and formations Edited November 6, 2021 by benhoward12 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caketiger Posted November 6, 2021 Share Posted November 6, 2021 OK, this thread has inspired me. I've reinstalled Steam and FM12. I bought a high-spec laptop last year in case I needed one for work and haven't really used it for FM. So, it'll take me time to get all the logos and packs set up again but then I'm going to sim through until July 2021 and see where I end up. Let's see if the magic is still there. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
B3nnet7 Posted November 9, 2021 Share Posted November 9, 2021 I jumped from FM08 all the way to FM21 and I found it so overwhelming at first but it doesn't take long to get used to, just stick with it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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