SoloTitano Posted November 9, 2022 Share Posted November 9, 2022 14 ore fa, Handyfernandy ha scritto: San Marino League for FM23 availabe now https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2886026394&searchtext=san+marino Just wait for italy lower league Great news! Anyone who have already tested it, can confirm if new league format/rules are applied? (1st one in league are now directly crowned champions, playoff for final positions 2+, 1 domestic player per team, etc.) 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiccO Posted November 9, 2022 Share Posted November 9, 2022 34 minutes ago, SoloTitano said: Great news! Anyone who have already tested it, can confirm if new league format/rules are applied? (1st one in league are now directly crowned champions, playoff for final positions 2+, 1 domestic player per team, etc.) I hope so because that’s actually a really good rule change. Did find it a bit strange that you could literally be the best team for 28 games and top the league but lose the championship in a one off game 😂 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiccO Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 22 hours ago, Handyfernandy said: San Marino League for FM23 availabe now https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2886026394&searchtext=san+marino Just wait for italy lower league I think this workshop is gone now. I'm fairly certain that @claassen intends on reproducing his databases this year again for 23. Those worked a treat on FM22. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scraborn Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 I hope there will be a san marino database with the real rules soon... last fm i started my very first fm save ever in san marino but with "weird" rules but after three years i didnt want to restart and took it but san giovanni made it to the cl groupstages a few times... but i habd no limits for foreign players or players could become citizen after 5 years... os hopefully i will find a better one cause i want to start in san marino again and not in italy 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomassje123 Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 On 09/11/2022 at 18:06, ChiccO said: I hope so because that’s actually a really good rule change. Did find it a bit strange that you could literally be the best team for 28 games and top the league but lose the championship in a one off game 😂 Happened to me with Folgore in FM 22 few days ago. The WHOLE season we hadn't conceded a goal. Final: lost 1-0 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiccO Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 33 minutes ago, Thomassje123 said: Happened to me with Folgore in FM 22 few days ago. The WHOLE season we hadn't conceded a goal. Final: lost 1-0 Haha that is brutal sir! I think it happened to me one year too, although I was too confident and instant resulted it. Big mistake Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyvdVen Posted November 11, 2022 Share Posted November 11, 2022 (edited) Hello, I see there are 3 database for San Marino. 1 Database with only playoffs for all 12 teams (Sammarinese Football League System) 2. Database with only number 1 CL qualif. and 2 -12 playoff (San Marino (D1) by Bartolomeus) 3. Database with numbers 1 go to CL qualif. and 2+3 ECL qualif. (San Marino - League and Cup) Which is the best database to use? And does somebody know when lower Italian Leagues come? Edited November 11, 2022 by RoyvdVen Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiccO Posted November 11, 2022 Share Posted November 11, 2022 Im not 100% sure but it sounds like the 3rd option is the one as they usually have 2 teams in the ECL prelim rounds. The full season should split into a playoff after 28 games I think but the team who finishes 1st on the league system bypass the playoffs now and are champions. Where did you see the database? I’m happy to download and test it. for the Italian lower leagues it’s a case of whenever someone has time to make them. I think Classsen did both past few years so he might do them both again this time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyvdVen Posted November 11, 2022 Share Posted November 11, 2022 I found them on steam workshop. I now use 2e but know i can use 11 players without San Marino players no rules for that. And yes 28 games after that playoffs without number 1 but the playoff has no meaning when number 2 and 3 are ECL for sure Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiccO Posted November 11, 2022 Share Posted November 11, 2022 12 minutes ago, RoyvdVen said: I found them on steam workshop. I now use 2e but know i can use 11 players without San Marino players no rules for that. And yes 28 games after that playoffs without number 1 but the playoff has no meaning when number 2 and 3 are ECL for sure Ah yes I see what you mean. Im not sure if that is still correct as you say the play offs would mean nothing lol. maybe @SoloTitano will know? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scraborn Posted November 11, 2022 Share Posted November 11, 2022 as mentioned i hope i come old soon cause i realy struggle to find a team for me outside of san marino cause i love building things from scratch... but maybe you guys can give some pro and cons of starting the challenge in or outside of the san marino league? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyvdVen Posted November 11, 2022 Share Posted November 11, 2022 aha oke so which database do you going to chose? Every database has something? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiccO Posted November 11, 2022 Share Posted November 11, 2022 19 minutes ago, RoyvdVen said: aha oke so which database do you going to chose? Every database has something? I’m holding off a bit to see if Claassen manages to do them soon. His worked perfect for me last year and were both the Sammarinese league and the Italian Lower Leagues. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiccO Posted November 11, 2022 Share Posted November 11, 2022 29 minutes ago, Scraborn said: as mentioned i hope i come old soon cause i realy struggle to find a team for me outside of san marino cause i love building things from scratch... but maybe you guys can give some pro and cons of starting the challenge in or outside of the san marino league? I usually play as 2 teams and the National Team. Victor San Marino and one of the San Marino clubs. Can go for the challenge on two fronts 😆 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scraborn Posted November 11, 2022 Share Posted November 11, 2022 vor 29 Minuten schrieb ChiccO: Victor San Marino and one of the San Marino clubs. Can go for the challenge on two fronts 😆 this sounds like a hell lot of stress and time Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiccO Posted November 11, 2022 Share Posted November 11, 2022 52 minutes ago, Scraborn said: this sounds like a hell lot of stress and time It’s not TOO bad. Doubles the decent newgens at least after a point 🤣 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomassje123 Posted November 11, 2022 Share Posted November 11, 2022 20 hours ago, ChiccO said: Haha that is brutal sir! I think it happened to me one year too, although I was too confident and instant resulted it. Big mistake The same happened to with to the Virtus game (0-2). Insta resulted it with my B team, that was a really close one in the quarter final already. That would be a catastrophe. Later on I win the CL final. Madness Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scraborn Posted November 11, 2022 Share Posted November 11, 2022 this is my favorite part of my first ever ever fm save Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiccO Posted November 11, 2022 Share Posted November 11, 2022 11 minutes ago, Scraborn said: this is my favorite part of my first ever ever fm save Nice! 2027 too 👏🏼 I topped a Conference League group a few seasons in when I wasn’t even expecting to make it in! 😂 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scraborn Posted November 11, 2022 Share Posted November 11, 2022 vor 5 Minuten schrieb ChiccO: Nice! 2027 too 👏🏼 I topped a Conference League group a few seasons in when I wasn’t even expecting to make it in! 😂 yeah but in the end i bottled it... won vs psg - loss to juve - 2 wins against wolfsburg - loss to juve and a loss against psg made me a third place the conference league was my deepest run in europe with beating newcastle and nice in the knockouts but loosing to wolfsburg in the quarterfinal a few years prior to the champions league year with this nasty group Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Handyfernandy Posted November 11, 2022 Share Posted November 11, 2022 (edited) Italy lower league available now https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2886735998&searchtext=Italy But only playable serie D. We need Serie e for playing Victor san marino Edited November 11, 2022 by Handyfernandy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dutchintheheart42 Posted November 12, 2022 Share Posted November 12, 2022 Wont lie edited in Victor San Marino in to Serie D and replaced them with a team cause i couldnt wait lol Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragswhufc Posted November 12, 2022 Share Posted November 12, 2022 (edited) Don't think you will have san marino regens tho Edited November 12, 2022 by ragswhufc Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiccO Posted November 12, 2022 Share Posted November 12, 2022 Yeah it might be a good idea to sim a test game to the newgens time and see what the intake is like nationality-wise. Just to be sure. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoloTitano Posted November 12, 2022 Share Posted November 12, 2022 (edited) 17 ore fa, ChiccO ha scritto: Ah yes I see what you mean. Im not sure if that is still correct as you say the play offs would mean nothing lol. maybe @SoloTitano will know? the correct rules are: - 1 San Marino player always on field (so if you one in starting XI and you want to sub him, another Sanmarinese must go in) - 28 matches, the first will be crowned as Champions. Teams placed 2-11 are qualified to play-offs (3rd-6th directly to QFs, 7th-11th have one play-off round more). The final positions (and european places) are decided by play-offs, so arriving 2nd in league phase should not give you automatic european qualification, you must arrive in play-off final to be officially 2nd/3rd - Play-off 1st round: single match (8th vs 11th, 9th vs 10th), in case of draw the better-placed team go on - QFs/SFs "home"/"away" matches (2th vs 9th*, 3rd vs 8th*, 4th vs 7th, 5th vs 6th). In case of same points and same goal differences in two matches, better-placed team goes on - Final for 2nd and 4th place. Single match with extra-time and penalties Edited November 12, 2022 by SoloTitano Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
6499red Posted November 12, 2022 Author Share Posted November 12, 2022 Don't have time to keep the thread updated much these days, so if yous want to start a new one for fm23 (or use this one) that's cool If I don't do that, maybe I'll squeeze put some time to play! I reckon just write Acheivements in each of our posts rather than the front of the thread because updating takes too long (bar the really high level ones) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiccO Posted November 12, 2022 Share Posted November 12, 2022 4 hours ago, 6499red said: Don't have time to keep the thread updated much these days, so if yous want to start a new one for fm23 (or use this one) that's cool If I don't do that, maybe I'll squeeze put some time to play! I reckon just write Acheivements in each of our posts rather than the front of the thread because updating takes too long (bar the really high level ones) Nice one dude, will need to wait for a relevant Italian Lower Leagues database 😆 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyvdVen Posted November 12, 2022 Share Posted November 12, 2022 Hello SoloTitano, Thank you very much to post the rules is really helpful for my save. I found a database who has the rules only the 1 San Marinees player in the starting 11 is not included. I going to ask on steam if he wants to add this rule. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiccO Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 On 12/11/2022 at 10:32, SoloTitano said: the correct rules are: - 1 San Marino player always on field (so if you one in starting XI and you want to sub him, another Sanmarinese must go in) - 28 matches, the first will be crowned as Champions. Teams placed 2-11 are qualified to play-offs (3rd-6th directly to QFs, 7th-11th have one play-off round more). The final positions (and european places) are decided by play-offs, so arriving 2nd in league phase should not give you automatic european qualification, you must arrive in play-off final to be officially 2nd/3rd - Play-off 1st round: single match (8th vs 11th, 9th vs 10th), in case of draw the better-placed team go on - QFs/SFs "home"/"away" matches (2th vs 9th*, 3rd vs 8th*, 4th vs 7th, 5th vs 6th). In case of same points and same goal differences in two matches, better-placed team goes on - Final for 2nd and 4th place. Single match with extra-time and penalties Do we know if this is definitely the rules? im only asking as all I can find on the official San Marino Football Association TV channel website doesn’t say that the top team now are exempt from the play off. Unless the site isn’t up to date? https://www.titani.tv/campionato-sammarinese Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoloTitano Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 13 ore fa, ChiccO ha scritto: Do we know if this is definitely the rules? im only asking as all I can find on the official San Marino Football Association TV channel website doesn’t say that the top team now are exempt from the play off. Unless the site isn’t up to date? https://www.titani.tv/campionato-sammarinese it's not updated. >Lunedì i sorteggi di campionato e coppa: al via la stagione calcistica (fsgc.sm) other rules: - 9 players on bench - 5 subs in 3 slots definitive change - Suspension for yellow cards: (in league) 4, 8, 11, 14, 17... (in cup) 2, 4, 6,... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiccO Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 2 hours ago, SoloTitano said: it's not updated. >Lunedì i sorteggi di campionato e coppa: al via la stagione calcistica (fsgc.sm) other rules: - 9 players on bench - 5 subs in 3 slots definitive change - Suspension for yellow cards: (in league) 4, 8, 11, 14, 17... (in cup) 2, 4, 6,... Great link mate, that’s great. Some really good changes there with the 5 subs and only 1 SM player in the team when it used to be 2. Along with the Real Name fix could be updated as the league and cup are now sponsored by BKN301. shouldn’t be too hard to change that from any of the custom SM databases made for FM23 thus far. It’s really just the Italian Eccelenza we are waiting for 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scraborn Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 as a replacement for my run with san giovanni i started a run in the youth only challenge but i crave for the return to san marino Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiccO Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 I haven’t edited a database since before the steam workshop subscribe was a popular option. do we know if we can further edit databases that we subscribe to and haven’t actually downloaded? im willing to slightly edit the San Marino database with the new rules and a Serie D one with VSM added so we can get started. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiccO Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 56 minutes ago, ChiccO said: I haven’t edited a database since before the steam workshop subscribe was a popular option. do we know if we can further edit databases that we subscribe to and haven’t actually downloaded? im willing to slightly edit the San Marino database with the new rules and a Serie D one with VSM added so we can get started. OK Yeah I can. Currently having a playaround with the AGE version of the SM league to add the new rules. Will run a test and sim a season to see if it works. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiccO Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 (edited) I've simmed a season into this database for the Campionato Sammarinese and the winners of the league were crowned champions and the play-offs works for the European qualification. It also has the minimum 1 Sammarinese player in the on-field 11 so it looks good! https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2886348726&searchtext=san+marino I'm just looking into editing a Serie D database to add VSM in and then will sim a season to check if the Newgens that come through are Sammarinese. EDIT: So VSM in the Serie D works, and the majority of the youth team are San Marino nationals. However there seems to be an issue with italian players being able to declare themselves as Sammarinese even though they weren't born there. It's players who have only been at VSM for one season too. @SoloTitano there hasn't been a change to the eligibility of players for the SM national team if they spend time at Victor San Marino has there? In the database it says 15 years to Nationality. Unless it's a strange bug. Edited November 15, 2022 by ChiccO Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dutchintheheart42 Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 1 hour ago, ChiccO said: I've simmed a season into this database for the Campionato Sammarinese and the winners of the league were crowned champions and the play-offs works for the European qualification. It also has the minimum 1 Sammarinese player in the on-field 11 so it looks good! https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2886348726&searchtext=san+marino I'm just looking into editing a Serie D database to add VSM in and then will sim a season to check if the Newgens that come through are Sammarinese. Once its done I will be finally ready to start!!!!! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
as7025 Posted November 15, 2022 Share Posted November 15, 2022 I'm looking to do this again this year, had a lot of fun with it last year. Does anyone know alternative links for downloading steam workshop files? I'm on GamePass so don't have access to the workshop. I used a steam downloader before but Valve have killed these so it's not possible anymore. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiccO Posted November 15, 2022 Share Posted November 15, 2022 Test simmed 18 months as both manager of Victor San Marino and the San Marino National team. Seems to be working ok. About to start a new topic for the FM23 San Marino challenge . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragswhufc Posted November 15, 2022 Share Posted November 15, 2022 6 minutes ago, ChiccO said: Test simmed 18 months as both manager of Victor San Marino and the San Marino National team. Seems to be working ok. About to start a new topic for the FM23 San Marino challenge . i appreciate the work you're putting in for Greatest save in the game. tyty 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiccO Posted November 15, 2022 Share Posted November 15, 2022 Enjoy! 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoloTitano Posted November 17, 2022 Share Posted November 17, 2022 Il 14/11/2022 in 23:15 , ChiccO ha scritto: I've simmed a season into this database for the Campionato Sammarinese and the winners of the league were crowned champions and the play-offs works for the European qualification. It also has the minimum 1 Sammarinese player in the on-field 11 so it looks good! https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2886348726&searchtext=san+marino I'm just looking into editing a Serie D database to add VSM in and then will sim a season to check if the Newgens that come through are Sammarinese. EDIT: So VSM in the Serie D works, and the majority of the youth team are San Marino nationals. However there seems to be an issue with italian players being able to declare themselves as Sammarinese even though they weren't born there. It's players who have only been at VSM for one season too. @SoloTitano there hasn't been a change to the eligibility of players for the SM national team if they spend time at Victor San Marino has there? In the database it says 15 years to Nationality. Unless it's a strange bug. In db it's 15 years, don't know why this is happening (but I remember happening also in FM22). Can you tell me the players? So I can check if it depends on them or it's a general bug Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiccO Posted November 17, 2022 Share Posted November 17, 2022 2 hours ago, SoloTitano said: In db it's 15 years, don't know why this is happening (but I remember happening also in FM22). Can you tell me the players? So I can check if it depends on them or it's a general bug Sure mate. Although I think it is a bug as it is happening even now when I’m playing as VSM. it’s not a game breaking bug and something that’s manageable as you can just ignore the players who aren’t supposed to be eligible. So far I’ve seen the news item for: Allessandro Monaco, Alberto Malo and Mouna Dioh. thanks for all your knowledge and assistance bud! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoloTitano Posted November 18, 2022 Share Posted November 18, 2022 22 ore fa, ChiccO ha scritto: Sure mate. Although I think it is a bug as it is happening even now when I’m playing as VSM. it’s not a game breaking bug and something that’s manageable as you can just ignore the players who aren’t supposed to be eligible. So far I’ve seen the news item for: Allessandro Monaco, Alberto Malo and Mouna Dioh. thanks for all your knowledge and assistance bud! I'm gonna set declared for their first nation all non-Sammarinese players at Victor or Academy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Handyfernandy Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 ITALY D5 BY TIMO https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2891015102&searchtext=italy SAN MARINO BY LURON https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2886348726&searchtext=san+marino NOW SAN MARINO CHALLENGE #FM23 AVAILABLE TO PLAY Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeardedGamer Posted January 9, 2023 Share Posted January 9, 2023 Evening all! Been a long time since I played a solid save on FM. Last save was on 21. I'm taking on this challenge with all my old knowledge. I'll update you as I go or when interesting things happen. Wish me look. I'm based in Malta so being close to Italy wad my reasoning. Originally from UK 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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