Popular Post Daveincid Posted May 4, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted May 4, 2022 This guide now goes into its second year. The goal is to help you to set up your save-game as balanced as possible for different strong PC/Laptop-Systems. It should also give you some information on how the whole setup-system works, what’s important to keep in mind and much more.FM22 Guide How to increase realism in Football Manager 22 It's impossible to show everyone’s different way of playing. This is only a rough guideline for a orientation. This is my view of fm, so if you are seeing it differently, that's completely fine. ;)!Please do not ask me in the comments what setup I recommend for System X or Y. Sometimes I answer them via PM, if the message is friendly and I have some free resources, which is very rare! Every setup can be customized by yourself how it suits you the most.Please note: The downloadable setups might be larger as you played the game before. I know that this can be frustrating as the game can be very slow that way. Playing Football Manager „realistic“ will let your CPU burn, always General: There are differences between unloaded leagues, view-only, playable and playable with full details: unloaded league No schedule, games are fully simulated in the background No visible league table No full squads (only if you load them via the advanced DB) No staff (After the first sacking of the real manager, there will be in most cases no new head coach and other staff members) Low transfer-activity „fictional“ finances (no existing bank balance, only a „fictional“ calculated one) Games will be simulated with the quick Match-Engine League „view only“ League-schedule League table No full squads (only if you load them via the advanced DB) No staff (After the first sacking of the real manager, there will be in most cases no new head-coach and other staff members) Low to medium transfer-activity „fictional“ finances (no existing bank balance, only a „fictional“ calculated one) Games will be simulated with the quick Match-Engine League playable League-schedule League table Full Squads Existing Staff Realistic transfer-activity Accurate simulation of the financial system Some games will be simulated with the Full Match Engine. League playable + full details League-schedule League table Full Squads Existing Staff Realistic transfer-activity Accurate simulation of the financial system Games will be fully simulated What is the benefit of simulating Leagues in full detail? You will get more realistic stats and results. The player development takes more calculations into account (Development per average is similar, but more diverse). If you simulate other leagues in Nations where you’re not currently managing with full detail, you will get a stronger AI, especially when you play against them. What slows the game processing speed down the most: Setting leagues to simulate in full detail uses multicore pretty heavy. A lot of leagues are playable custom data in general slows down performance. There are big differences in what kind of custom data is used. As an orientation you can go by file size. Larger files need more processing time. (not always, but especially lower-league-files do have quite a big impact.) An incredible amount of players loaded also affects performance. Down to my experience, if you don't load 200k+ players, this effect is not that big compared to the others mentioned above All custom graphics loaded do not have any influence on the game speed at all. As far as I know it has some influence in terms of RAM usage Extra Tips: 1. As a human manager you have some "benefits" over the AI. You can be much better in transfers because you don't "feel" pressure or concerns about which teams have IRL. I think that's a reason why the AI is not that aggressive vs a human player fighting against a specific talent. It looks like a weak programmed AI, for me it is just insane programming skills by SI-devs. With that in mind, you might not just buy a wonderkid for 20 million while managing a team that would never do that IRL, even if it would be possible. This gave me a much more immersive game experience. 2. Disable the first transfer window. The game starts (in most cases) in summer 21. In real-life, transfers already happened, so if you enable that transfer window you’ll get much less accurate transfers, especially in the first year. 3. If you are struggling to choose the right setup for your Laptop/PC and it’s only about 2 or 3 more leagues, then even add 5;) 4. Stick to the setup you’ve chosen at the start during your save game. I wouldn’t add additional leagues or remove some. If your game becomes too slow I would first set some fully simulated competitions to default. This has a much bigger impact on the „day to day“-performance. 5. Ignore the performance stars when you choose a setup. They are only a rough orientation and can be misleading. Especially with the advanced database-setup and custom detail levels. 6. As a general rule: In every Club, where you see existing players (not the greyed out ones), There will be newgens generated. If the whole Club has no existing players in 2021, there won’t be any in 2031. Detail level I recommend setting all national teams simulated in full detail as well as the continental club competitions. If this slows down your game already too much, you can change this to only the Continent you are currently managing in. I’ll show you how I set up the detail level for each setup (small, medium, large) on my youtube-video. Available setups for the default game: Every setup contains all players from existing leagues within the game. So even the small setup has over 200k players. As I mentioned already, my setups are quite demanding but especially the „small“ one might be faster as you think.Small: 40 playable leagues in 35 Nations with 204k players This setup adds the top division in 35/53 Nations as well as the 2nd division in England, France, Germany, Spain and Italy. All the other leagues are all „view“ only with players added via the advanced database. This setup already guarantees you a well-balanced transfer-market, and strong competitors (see the benefit of the playable league over „view only“). This database is already very demanding. For those who this is already way above their limit, I recommend setting the detail level completely to default. If it’s still too slow, see „additional setups“.Medium: 64 playable leagues in 41 Nations with 212k players This setup mainly goes down the league-pyramid and adds 2nd and 3rd divisions of the bigger Nations but also some top-divisions of smaller Nations. If you can’t choose between this or the small one, take the „medium“ setup Large: 97 playable leagues in 53 Nations with 220k players The smell of a burning CPU can be quite romantic right? Almost the same as being at a campfire with your partner Jokes aside, this setup adds at least the top division of every Nation and a lot of 2nd and 3rd divisions as well. Just be aware: Once you had 1 long-term-save game with such a setup, there will be no way back anymore^^.Additional setups: In my guide for FM21 I wrote about much smaller setups but only 1 setup to download (recommended setup). This year I wanted to make a change. In this file there are 2 smaller setups included. Those setups are meant to be for those who: 1. have a weak laptop/PC or 2. prefer playing FM as quick as possible but with a tiny bit of realism too.Database setup: This file is needed for every league setup. It adds players from all over the world for at least the top division. It’s also designed to add players for all „view-only“ leagues. So if you might have wondered why some leagues aren’t loaded as „view-only“, it’s because there aren’t enough players available in the database, so I don’t see a need to have them added, as they do not produce any players in the future. If you don't know if your PC/Laptop is low/mid/high-end you can check this amazing thready by @Brother Ben: https://community.sigames.com/forums/topic/559348-fm22-performance-benchmarking-thread/ To discuss about realism in FM22 @Junkhead has created this wonderful thread. Sharing ideas, your own and all other stuff that can be linked in this area. https://community.sigames.com/topic/539688-fm21-realism-thread/ I have created a megapack to increase the realism of Football Manager 2022, you can find it here: (I recommend using it of course;) https://community.sigames.com/forums/topic/545609-fm21-increase-realism-megapack-by-daveincid There is a great megapack from @DaveTheEditor which makes a lot of additional Nations playable in the game. I worked closely together with him and tested his files, so I know about the high quality-standard he provides. https://community.sigames.com/forums/topic/560283-fm22-aroundtheglobe-megapack-by-davetheeditor-release-07032022/ I also recommend the data updates from @pr0 https://community.sigames.com/forums/topic/559312-fm22-transfers-data-update-packs-by-thenotoriouspr0-fmtu/ Q&AQ: „Yo Dave, what setup should I choose? I have a PC, thanks“A: Yooo, someone forgot to read the first few sentences;): Please do not ask me in the comments what setup I recommend for system X or Y. Sometimes (almost never) I answer them via PM, if the message is friendly and I have some free resources.Q: „Where do I need to place those files?“A: „The setups need to be placed here: C:\Users\yourname\Documents\Sports Interactive\Football Manager 2022\game_setup“. The database setup („all players from default leagues“) needs to be placed here: C:\Users\yourname\Documents\Sports Interactive\Football Manager 2022\db setups Q: „It still doesn’t work….“A: „Watch my YouTube-video, it’s shown there“Q: „I’m on a Mac…“A: „Worth considering switching to PC then;)“ I don’t have a Mac, so I can’t help you with that I’m sorry!Q: „Where do I need to set the detail level“A: „Watch my youtube-video, it’s shown there“Q: „Why does this guide not include any custom leagues?“A: „Because the guide should work for everyone“. „There might be custom ones available somewhere :D“Q: „Where can I find it?“A: „ask Dr. Google or send me a PM“Q: „I might found a mistake in one of the setups“A: „Send me a PM“Q: „Does it work for FM16, FM17, FM18, FM19, FM20, FM21?“A: „No“Q: „So it works for FM15? What about FM-Mobile?A: „No, No, No, No, No, No“ I hope I was able to help you with one of the toughest decisions BEFORE you start your save-game:) In case I missed something or you think I’ve made a mistake, PM’s are open Cheers DaveincidDownload setups:https://www.mediafire.com/file/y7vgclsa7613l1p/Daveincid%27s_FM22_setups_default_game.zip/file 19 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
giggsxbr Posted May 5, 2022 Share Posted May 5, 2022 GREAT!! I will start a new save!! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daveincid Posted May 5, 2022 Author Share Posted May 5, 2022 vor 13 Minuten schrieb giggsxbr: GREAT!! I will start a new save!! Enjoy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fc.cadoni Posted May 5, 2022 Share Posted May 5, 2022 Excellent! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpS_Zen Posted May 5, 2022 Share Posted May 5, 2022 Thanks for what you are doing for the community 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpS_Zen Posted May 5, 2022 Share Posted May 5, 2022 @Daveincid It's marginal, but I noticed you are using the large db option, even for the small setups. Is there a reason for that ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daveincid Posted May 5, 2022 Author Share Posted May 5, 2022 (edited) vor 18 Minuten schrieb SpS_Zen: Is there a reason for that ? realism Edit: I don't use any default db, they are all the same custom db. See here:Q: „Where do I need to place those files?“A: „The setups need to be placed here: C:\Users\yourname\Documents\Sports Interactive\Football Manager 2022\game_setup“.The database setup („all players from default leagues“) needs to be placed here: C:\Users\yourname\Documents\Sports Interactive\Football Manager 2022\db setups Edited May 5, 2022 by Daveincid Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpS_Zen Posted May 5, 2022 Share Posted May 5, 2022 il y a 56 minutes, Daveincid a dit : realism Edit: I don't use any default db, they are all the same custom db. See here:Q: „Where do I need to place those files?“A: „The setups need to be placed here: C:\Users\yourname\Documents\Sports Interactive\Football Manager 2022\game_setup“.The database setup („all players from default leagues“) needs to be placed here: C:\Users\yourname\Documents\Sports Interactive\Football Manager 2022\db setups Again, this is marginal. I was talking about the difference about the options below : In older FM, I noticed there were too many good staff available when you picked 'large', so I always played with 'small'. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daveincid Posted May 5, 2022 Author Share Posted May 5, 2022 (edited) vor 2 Minuten schrieb SpS_Zen: Again, this is marginal. I was talking about the difference about the options below : In older FM, I noticed there were too many good staff available when you picked 'large', so I always played with 'small'. I've put an old db-setup in the download. It's fixed. Please for the next time:Q: „I might found a mistake in one of the setups“A: „Send me a PM“ Edited May 5, 2022 by Daveincid 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cedinero Posted June 14, 2022 Share Posted June 14, 2022 Hey, You got a version of your files which includes DaveTheEditor's additional nations? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daveincid Posted June 14, 2022 Author Share Posted June 14, 2022 vor 1 Minute schrieb cedinero: Hey, You got a version of your files which includes DaveTheEditor's additional nations? Q: „Why does this guide not include any custom leagues?“A: „Because the guide should work for everyone“. „There might be custom ones available somewhere :D“Q: „Where can I find it?“A: „ask Dr. Google or send me a PM“ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gee_Simpson Posted December 14, 2022 Share Posted December 14, 2022 (edited) @Daveincid What's the reason behind tip number 4? Because I'm going to load a certain amount but may want to reduce it if I find things too slow. Stick to the setup you’ve chosen at the start during your save game. I wouldn’t add additional leagues or remove some. If your game becomes too slow I would first set some fully simulated competitions to default. This has a much bigger impact on the „day to day“-performance. Edited December 14, 2022 by Gee_Simpson Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alian62 Posted December 14, 2022 Share Posted December 14, 2022 The thing with proccesing is it gets slower as the more infomation is gathered . I found the first year is ok but then after that the processing slows down . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daveincid Posted December 14, 2022 Author Share Posted December 14, 2022 vor 8 Stunden schrieb Gee_Simpson: @Daveincid What's the reason behind tip number 4? Because I'm going to load a certain amount but may want to reduce it if I find things too slow. Stick to the setup you’ve chosen at the start during your save game. I wouldn’t add additional leagues or remove some. If your game becomes too slow I would first set some fully simulated competitions to default. This has a much bigger impact on the „day to day“-performance. To keep the simulation consistent over the whole save-game. Feel free to play it how you want but I personally do not recommend it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiverReveal666 Posted December 14, 2022 Share Posted December 14, 2022 Is this guide still applicable to FM23? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daveincid Posted December 14, 2022 Author Share Posted December 14, 2022 vor 8 Minuten schrieb RiverReveal666: Is this guide still applicable to FM23? Yes Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bjorna Posted January 18, 2023 Share Posted January 18, 2023 Did you add all the leagues that are used in the database like in the fm21 guide? I cant use ur files in fm23 so I dont know if you just added the continents in the advanced database or also the districts again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solanke Posted January 20, 2023 Share Posted January 20, 2023 Hi guys. I am planning to start a very long save. I have a decent PC but, I still want to optimalize the database in favour of processing speed. I will start in the Premier League. Buying, developing and selling players is a big part of my gameplay, so I need some leagues, to sell or loan out talents. I also would love to have 50k-100k player base, to have diverse talent pool. I am also planning to you @Daveincid pack for FM23. I would love some suggestions. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carambau Posted January 20, 2023 Share Posted January 20, 2023 (edited) @Solanke have the top 2 leagues of UK (ENG, SCO, IRL, WAL) , GER, ITA, SPA & FRA loaded + load international players of all continents & players of top clubs of all continents. Edited January 20, 2023 by Carambau Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oche balboa Posted January 20, 2023 Share Posted January 20, 2023 21 minutes ago, Solanke said: Hi guys. I am planning to start a very long save. I have a decent PC but, I still want to optimalize the database in favour of processing speed. I will start in the Premier League. Buying, developing and selling players is a big part of my gameplay, so I need some leagues, to sell or loan out talents. I also would love to have 50k-100k player base, to have diverse talent pool. I am also planning to you @Daveincid pack for FM23. I would love some suggestions. Have the top leagues in Europe. (Possibly 2nd Divisions too) and the top leagues of interesting leagues around the World. USA, Canada, China, South Korea, Brazil & Argentina Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
planum Posted March 27, 2023 Share Posted March 27, 2023 (edited) @Daveincid hey bro, any chance you will make these files for FM 23? Because the files posted here do not work in FM23, and when you try to open them, they give an error. Thank you! Edited March 27, 2023 by planum Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
phnompenhandy Posted March 27, 2023 Share Posted March 27, 2023 He has them for FM23. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
planum Posted March 27, 2023 Share Posted March 27, 2023 6 минут назад, phnompenhandy сказал: He has them for FM23. But I can't find the link. Are they only available on Patreon now? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maviarab Posted March 27, 2023 Share Posted March 27, 2023 They are freely available on 'other sites'.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
planum Posted March 31, 2023 Share Posted March 31, 2023 (edited) I want to say thank you very much for your work @Daveincid Unfortunately, I was not able to support you on Patreon and download ready-made files due to the fact that my bank is under sanctions and I cannot transfer money to foreign accounts, but ! Instead I understood the logic of your settings by reading all the past threads I have found a sweet spot for my Laptop with Ryzen 5600h and 16gb RAM. Maybe my settings will be useful to someone: - The first two divisions in Belgium, England, France, Germany, Holland, Italy, Spain - playable / View-only Below - Other Top 20 European leagues - View-only - Argentina, Brazil, Colombia, Mexico, Uruguay, USA - View-only In addition - a large database with players from all continents (except for "players based on nation" and "players of nationality") Which gives an excellent base of ~143k players Full level of detail: - all national teams - all continental club competitions - First Division and Cup in Belgium, England, France, Germany, Holland, Italy, Spain + 2 first divisions in my league Sweet spot for me between speed and immersion p.s.: I also advise disabling "turbo boost" for this processor so that when simulating matches, the temperature does not fly to 100 ° C and the cooling turbines do not turn on. Edited April 1, 2023 by planum Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gee_Simpson Posted April 1, 2023 Share Posted April 1, 2023 Isn't there a downside to loading less leagues but loading so many players through the advanced database? A few years ago, I read that it has a negative effect on the transfer market because it floods the game with too many players, is this true? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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