McBride Posted November 12, 2022 Share Posted November 12, 2022 (edited) This year seems to have improved the realism in the lower wrungs of the game. They play poorly and it looks like a good amount of effort went into it to make it look good. Great improvement! Edited November 12, 2022 by McBride 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
phnompenhandy Posted November 12, 2022 Share Posted November 12, 2022 You're certainly right about that. I'm a veteran LLaMa of over 2 decades and I've never had it so tough. In 2 early trials I got relegated and sacked - twice. The YouTube LLaMas are finding it tougher too. Brilliant, isn't it? 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dℍaisa Posted November 12, 2022 Share Posted November 12, 2022 (edited) 29 minutes ago, phnompenhandy said: You're certainly right about that. I'm a veteran LLaMa of over 2 decades and I've never had it so tough. In 2 early trials I got relegated and sacked - twice. The YouTube LLaMas are finding it tougher too. Brilliant, isn't it? i also started Loch ness, and this is my status after 2 hours. #freetransferguilty Edited November 12, 2022 by dℍaisa Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
phnompenhandy Posted November 12, 2022 Share Posted November 12, 2022 ^ Nice. The difference is I'm keeping all the real players. I'm not going to succeed with them! Weird that you have Scott Morrison as a 40 year old keeper - he's actually a 30-something midfielder! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
priority76 Posted November 12, 2022 Share Posted November 12, 2022 Also became inspired to try a save with Loch Ness but in League 2. It's absolutely brutal! Playing with no first transfer window, the team is just not capable at this level. I'm just hoping I can make it to January without getting sacked. Although I have just remembered you can play two trialists in each match, which helps a little. I celebrated the win against Stranraer like we'd won the world cup! 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
phnompenhandy Posted November 12, 2022 Share Posted November 12, 2022 1 minute ago, priority76 said: Also became inspired to try a save with Loch Ness but in League 2. It's absolutely brutal! Playing with no first transfer window, the team is just not capable at this level. I'm just hoping I can make it to January without getting sacked. Although I have just remembered you can play two trialists in each match, which helps a little. I celebrated the win against Stranraer like we'd won the world cup! I was playing Loch Ness in League Two while I waited for the lower league file to be ready. I got relegated and sacked every time. First time with 0 wins before being fired at Christmas, second time with a couple of wins and making it to losing the play-offs. It's impossible. Fun though! I do recommend you download Mozza's file from Steam. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zapoleon Posted November 12, 2022 Share Posted November 12, 2022 Do lower league teams have worse completed passes and passing accuracy this year? I know in 22 things like these were way too high for such lower quality teams. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dannyfc Posted November 12, 2022 Share Posted November 12, 2022 Fully agree- very relieved to see <70% pass completions. Big improvement from last year where you'd have clogger CBs rack up 90%+ at ease. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dℍaisa Posted November 12, 2022 Share Posted November 12, 2022 2 minutes ago, Zapoleon said: Do lower league teams have worse completed passes and passing accuracy this year? I know in 22 things like these were way too high for such lower quality teams. Yes I find it low too. By say: 5% 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dannyfc Posted November 12, 2022 Share Posted November 12, 2022 2 minutes ago, Zapoleon said: Do lower league teams have worse completed passes and passing accuracy this year? I know in 22 things like these were way too high for such lower quality teams. Yeah completely sorted now, it was enough for me to stop playing the game entirely last year as seemed absurd. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dℍaisa Posted November 12, 2022 Share Posted November 12, 2022 (edited) 48 minutes ago, phnompenhandy said: ^ Nice. The difference is I'm keeping all the real players. I'm not going to succeed with them! Weird that you have Scott Morrison as a 40 year old keeper - he's actually a 30-something midfielder! Ya. But free transfer wont help after promotion. Unattached players are avg highland level at best in scotland Edited November 12, 2022 by dℍaisa Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fc.cadoni Posted November 12, 2022 Share Posted November 12, 2022 Since I am always starting unemployment, no coaching badges and Sunday League Experience; this year managing LL Team is harder from FM22 and older versions. Resign or sacked is the dilemma sometimes and I like it. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
phnompenhandy Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 Popping in to say I think I've cracked it! I have played over 100 games with my part-time club, getting sacked and abandoning trial saves time and again, always trying out different combinations of players, formations and tactics. Basically, I have identified two key matters to take into account more so this iteration than ever before. 1. I finally figured out that "it's not me; it's them!" By that I mean, for part-timers who don't respect your absence of experience, gaining tactical familiarity and cohesion and responding to you as a manager, takes a long time. You might have a good tactic, but it will take many games for that to become apparent - by which time morale will be in the red zone, and you've lost the dressing room and fans anyway! 2. The other thing I've discovered is that finding the optimum tactic is very much about identifying the weaknesses (and strengths, if any) of your squad. There's no plug-n-play road to success that I can see (not that I've looked at any alleged downloadable shortcuts). In my specific case (and I'm playing by rules that I can't change the squad I inherit), the squad is very old and is low on stamina, plus we can't do the basics in defending or passing. It all looked hopeless until I hit on an extremely defensive set up that conserves energy. With the structure being defensively solid, it doesn't need a defensive mentality because it's already baked in, so I go with positive mentality, and it seems to have achieved the right balance. nb it's a 3 CDs, 2 DMs, 2 MCs, an AMC and 2 STs 'force inside and pounce' set-up. It won't work for you because your weaknesses won't be the same. So really, LLaMa is much harder this time because it is far more realistic than ever before. You have to put in the hard yards and have patience if you don't want to exploit loopholes like being able to recruit better players you'd never find in real life. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheAwesomeGem Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 Finally lower teams doesn't play like Prime Barca. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conardo Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 (edited) btw, I want our LLM forum back! And everyone who looks into the tactics forum is kicked out :P Edited November 14, 2022 by Conardo 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
phnompenhandy Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 4 minutes ago, Conardo said: btw, I want our LLM forum back! And everyone who looks into the tactics forum is kicked out :P Actually, not a bad idea if run by different people. It all got too cultish in the old one. But playing the game the 'proper' way is vastly more interesting in FM23 and I think there will be a surge of popularity. In the meantime, something that wasn't around in those days are all the YouTube LLaMas - some great ones there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BristolCity1992 Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 Would love a LLM forum. What you tubers do you recommend? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conardo Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 vor 11 Minuten schrieb phnompenhandy: Actually, not a bad idea if run by different people. It all got too cultish in the old one. But playing the game the 'proper' way is vastly more interesting in FM23 and I think there will be a surge of popularity. In the meantime, something that wasn't around in those days are all the YouTube LLaMas - some great ones there. I remember the good old LLM stories e.g. about Billericay Town F.C. .... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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