martinji Posted November 25, 2022 Share Posted November 25, 2022 Just now, Weiry said: I’m not Iranian but even I did a few fist pumps after that goal! me too, this has been a brilliant watch I mean you can't hold a nation responsible for something someone says, but ever since Robbie Savage said "Macclesfield would beat Iran" I've been hoping for this Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Adam Posted November 25, 2022 Share Posted November 25, 2022 Seriously can us English not mock them until we have beaten the USA? Please We are very very very capable of losing to both the USA and Wales. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigV Posted November 25, 2022 Share Posted November 25, 2022 Carlos Queiroz masterclass Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weezer Posted November 25, 2022 Share Posted November 25, 2022 1 minute ago, Weiry said: I’m not Iranian but even I did a few fist pumps after that goal! I yelled out in the restaurant I’m watching this in, even surprised myself! 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wiggins Top Boys Posted November 25, 2022 Share Posted November 25, 2022 proper world cup classic i reckon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orzelek Posted November 25, 2022 Share Posted November 25, 2022 Well played Iran Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebs Posted November 25, 2022 Share Posted November 25, 2022 Sucker punch??? Wales were lucky for it not to be 4 nil in the end 😁😁😁😁 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kpain16 Posted November 25, 2022 Share Posted November 25, 2022 Yeah, England will be cruising here. Very weak group. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Synthahols_for_Girls Posted November 25, 2022 Share Posted November 25, 2022 (edited) Edited November 25, 2022 by Synthahols_for_Girls Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigcwwe Posted November 25, 2022 Share Posted November 25, 2022 2 minutes ago, Astafjevs said: Is this the worst group in World Cup history? England are quality but these other teams are woeful. Only group at this WC with all four teams ranked in the top 20. 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
enigmatic Posted November 25, 2022 Share Posted November 25, 2022 I was going to say that first goal was a piece of quality out of keeping with the game, but I think a keeper who's not Danny Ward probably saves that. Second was well taken tbf Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunmaN1905 Posted November 25, 2022 Share Posted November 25, 2022 USA-Iran, Tuesday 7pm BST. No doubt we'll have some nuclear strike threats during the build up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haguey Posted November 25, 2022 Share Posted November 25, 2022 Wales got what they deserved, terrible and negative, Bale and Ramsey seemingly undroppable. Well done Iran 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
skybluedave Posted November 25, 2022 Share Posted November 25, 2022 3 minutes ago, Astafjevs said: Is this the worst group in World Cup history? England are quality but these other teams are woeful. Group of death mate Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baptista_8 Posted November 25, 2022 Share Posted November 25, 2022 3 minutes ago, CFuller said: And Brendan Rodgers still won't sign a new goalkeeper in January. Danny Ward is a wonderful human being. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astafjevs Posted November 25, 2022 Share Posted November 25, 2022 1 minute ago, Mr Adam said: Seriously can us English not mock them until we have beaten the USA? Please We are very very very capable of losing to both the USA and Wales. England would have to play with blindfolds on to lose to this Wales. It does take a bit of pressure of the US later though, because they know they've essentially got a playoff for 2nd place even if they lose. GD probably isn't going to come into it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
XuluBak Posted November 25, 2022 Share Posted November 25, 2022 And that's why Monday was "mustn't lose" not "must win." Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weezer Posted November 25, 2022 Share Posted November 25, 2022 There’s been some dull games, there always is with international football, but there’s been some absolute bangers too which to me more than make up for it. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
VP. Posted November 25, 2022 Share Posted November 25, 2022 Impossible to feel anything for Wales after a performance like that, deserved nothing and got nothing. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
forameuss Posted November 25, 2022 Share Posted November 25, 2022 (edited) 2 minutes ago, craigcwwe said: Only group at this WC with all four teams ranked in the top 20. Because the rankings are absolutely infallible obviously, and totally represent the strength of each country. Edited November 25, 2022 by forameuss Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darius1998 Posted November 25, 2022 Share Posted November 25, 2022 1 minute ago, skybluedave said: Group of death mate Probably actual death considering who are playing on the final matchday. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
themadsheep2001 Posted November 25, 2022 Share Posted November 25, 2022 Just now, Astafjevs said: England would have to play with blindfolds on to lose to this Wales. It does take a bit of pressure of the US later though, because they know they've essentially got a playoff for 2nd place even if they lose. GD probably isn't going to come into it. Yeah. I actually expect the USA to come at us a bit. They've got a free hit here Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kpain16 Posted November 25, 2022 Share Posted November 25, 2022 This was like the UEFA Europa Conference League... Doesn't have to be quality to be entertaining Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Adam Posted November 25, 2022 Share Posted November 25, 2022 Ashley Williams straight on to blaming Ampadu having to play instead of another 40+ year old in Joe Allen. Welsh football needs a re-set in terms of focusing on some of the very very very good youth players they have and not lusting after what was a seemingly golden generation that is now greying Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigV Posted November 25, 2022 Share Posted November 25, 2022 2 minutes ago, GunmaN1905 said: USA-Iran, Tuesday 7pm BST. No doubt we'll have some nuclear strike threats during the build up. Wtf is this?! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigcwwe Posted November 25, 2022 Share Posted November 25, 2022 Just now, forameuss said: Because the rankings are absolutely infallible obviously, and totally represent the strength of each country. [SPOILER] [/SPOILER] I agree there's issues with the rankings but still, point stands. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darius1998 Posted November 25, 2022 Share Posted November 25, 2022 They obviously lack a bit of quality but there were some superb performances from Iran there. Rezaeian was superb at RB, Taremi and Azmoun ran themselves into the ground up front... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunmaN1905 Posted November 25, 2022 Share Posted November 25, 2022 Just now, BigV said: Wtf is this?! ? I'm sure Iranian dictatorship will use the match as political propaganda and threaten the world. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weezer Posted November 25, 2022 Share Posted November 25, 2022 6 minutes ago, Astafjevs said: Is this the worst group in World Cup history? England are quality but these other teams are woeful. Best argument for keeping Southgate. Frustrating football a lot of the time but luck of the Irish when it comes to cup draws All this talk of FIFA or UEFA hating us goes out of the window if you look at our draws for qualifying and tournaments. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigcwwe Posted November 25, 2022 Share Posted November 25, 2022 Bale says he 'didn't see' the red card. Riiighhht. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunmaN1905 Posted November 25, 2022 Share Posted November 25, 2022 Just now, Darius1998 said: They obviously lack a bit of quality but there were some superb performances from Iran there. Rezaeian was superb at RB, Taremi and Azmoun ran themselves into the ground up front... If Azmoun was healthy, they actually have a better attacking duo than most teams in the tournament. I know I'd take them both to start for Croatia. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew_ Posted November 25, 2022 Share Posted November 25, 2022 Whoops Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Adam Posted November 25, 2022 Share Posted November 25, 2022 (edited) How are teams on the same points seperated? GD or results between the two? There is a very plausible scenario still that England draw tonight and then it comes down to Wales just having to beat England if its the latter. If its the former, then they need a pretty large swing as well I know its a small change. but if we draw with the USA then they need goal difference and that second goal will mean they need to beat us by 3, not by 2. Edited November 25, 2022 by Mr Adam Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weezer Posted November 25, 2022 Share Posted November 25, 2022 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Darius1998 said: They obviously lack a bit of quality but there were some superb performances from Iran there. Rezaeian was superb at RB, Taremi and Azmoun ran themselves into the ground up front... Love Azmoun. Been pretty outspoken against his own government but always gives everything for the national team. And a pretty good player too. Edited November 25, 2022 by Weezer Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darius1998 Posted November 25, 2022 Share Posted November 25, 2022 1 minute ago, GunmaN1905 said: If Azmoun was healthy, they actually have a better attacking duo than most teams in the tournament. I know I'd take them both to start for Croatia. Yeah, easily Asia's best striker partnership. If Azmoun is fit enough for the last game, I think they can get whatever they need against USA. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darren Moores Mum Posted November 25, 2022 Share Posted November 25, 2022 1 minute ago, Mr Adam said: How are teams on the same points seperated? GD or results between the two? There is a very plausible scenario still that England draw tonight and then it comes down to Wales just having to beat England if its the latter. If its the former, then they need a pretty large swing as well GD first then goals scored. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
georginho_juventusygr Posted November 25, 2022 Share Posted November 25, 2022 Bale. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnterUsernameHere Posted November 25, 2022 Share Posted November 25, 2022 5 minutes ago, VP. said: Impossible to feel anything for Wales after a performance like that, deserved nothing and got nothing. Absolutely. In terms of UK countries, they're a bit of a non entity to me, but it's always delicious to see cowardly sides get punished. Negative international sides have been getting their way for too long now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sc91 Posted November 25, 2022 Share Posted November 25, 2022 3 minutes ago, Weezer said: Best argument for keeping Southgate. Frustrating football a lot of the time but luck of the Irish when it comes to cup draws All this talk of FIFA or UEFA hating us goes out of the window if you look at our draws for qualifying and tournaments. Which seems to have abandoned the actual Irish. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob1981 Posted November 25, 2022 Share Posted November 25, 2022 1 minute ago, Mr Adam said: How are teams on the same points seperated? GD or results between the two? There is a very plausible scenario still that England draw tonight and then it comes down to Wales just having to beat England if its the latter. If its the former, then they need a pretty large swing as well GD first. Only use h2h if GD and goals scored are equal. Euros it is the other way round. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astafjevs Posted November 25, 2022 Share Posted November 25, 2022 1 minute ago, Mr Adam said: How are teams on the same points seperated? GD or results between the two? There is a very plausible scenario still that England draw tonight and then it comes down to Wales just having to beat England if its the latter. If its the former, then they need a pretty large swing as well It's GD. So even if that happens, Wales are going to have to win big, and then hope US-Iran is a draw. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crispypaul Posted November 25, 2022 Share Posted November 25, 2022 7 minutes ago, forameuss said: Because the rankings are absolutely infallible obviously, and totally represent the strength of each country. Next you'll be saying Belgium aren't the 2nd best side in the world Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Adam Posted November 25, 2022 Share Posted November 25, 2022 (edited) 2 minutes ago, ginnybob said: GD first then goals scored. Yes so they may really regret that second goal. I KNOW England are favourites, so this isn't an anti-jinx. But there is a plausible scenario England draw tonight. And if we draw, it will mean Wales need to beat us by 4 goals, rather than 3. Both are a long shot but winning by 4 feels impossible. Edited November 25, 2022 by Mr Adam Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weezer Posted November 25, 2022 Share Posted November 25, 2022 1 minute ago, sc91 said: Which seems to have abandoned the actual Irish. We took it from them, it’s what we do. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
forameuss Posted November 25, 2022 Share Posted November 25, 2022 2 minutes ago, craigcwwe said: I agree there's issues with the rankings but still, point stands. Any chance you could not quote me completely butchering the gif? 'sakes I see what you mean, but the whole point is the rankings. If they're not that accurate - which they're not, especially when comparing confederations that rarely play each other - then the whole point kind of falls down. It's constantly brought up as some gauge of quality (and granted they don't have much else) when it doesn't really mean much. Italy are 6th and are deservedly not at the tournament. Canada are ranked below Scotland, one of which could well still have a decent tournament and one of which are, again, deservedly not there (because we boycotted it and wanted to give Ukraine the place definitely. Definitely.). It's a weak group. Wales are lacking and were beaten by a side that completely shat it from England. Remains to be seen what England do to the US. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astafjevs Posted November 25, 2022 Share Posted November 25, 2022 Just now, Mr Adam said: Yes so they may really regret that second goal. I KNOW England are favourites, so this isn't an anti-jinx. But there is a plausible scenario England draw tonight. And if we draw, it will mean Wales need to beat us by 4 goals, rather than 3. Wales aren't beating anyone, let alone the best team in the group, by 4 goals. It's the US or Iran for 2nd. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_jagster Posted November 25, 2022 Share Posted November 25, 2022 6 minutes ago, Weezer said: Best argument for keeping Southgate. Frustrating football a lot of the time but luck of the Irish when it comes to cup draws All this talk of FIFA or UEFA hating us goes out of the window if you look at our draws for qualifying and tournaments. We were seeded for 1982 on "security grounds" 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
forameuss Posted November 25, 2022 Share Posted November 25, 2022 1 minute ago, Crispypaul said: Next you'll be saying Belgium aren't the 2nd best side in the world Belgium have to be the most tedious top-tier nation there is. Constantly near the top of the rankings while never really doing anything to actually threaten to win tournaments. No boom and bust, just a constant mid-to-high-level droning. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunmaN1905 Posted November 25, 2022 Share Posted November 25, 2022 Wait...that was the first goal outside of the box on the entire tournament? Game's gone. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Adam Posted November 25, 2022 Share Posted November 25, 2022 Just now, Astafjevs said: Wales aren't beating anyone, let alone the best team in the group, by 4 goals. It's the US or Iran for 2nd. yes but I'd imagine Wales themselves have more faith than you do. And I'm looking at their perspective, not what is likely Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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