Baz92 Posted December 2, 2022 Share Posted December 2, 2022 (edited) Hey, so out of nowhere tonight the game started stuttering even out of the match engine, mouse skipping around and what not, during games the 3d match engine the ball and the players skip about too, its not a framerate issue. The load up screen is also taking longer than 5 minutes to load if i dont touch anything, it just straight up freezes and when it is animated its so laggy. Its only football manager doing it. ive tried turning off all skins, messing with any options i can think of. any help much appreciated 32gb RAM 3080 ti i9 12900k Edited December 2, 2022 by Baz92 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fc.cadoni Posted December 2, 2022 Share Posted December 2, 2022 9 minutes ago, Baz92 said: Hey, so out of nowhere tonight the game started stuttering even out of the match engine, mouse skipping around and what not, during games the 3d match engine the ball and the players skip about too, its not a framerate issue. The load up screen is also taking longer than 5 minutes to load if i dont touch anything, it just straight up freezes and when it is animated its so laggy. Its only football manager doing it. ive tried turning off all skins, messing with any options i can think of. any help much appreciated 32gb RAM 3080 ti i9 9900k Right click on Football Manager 2023 on Steam > Properties > Launch Options --disable_flip_discard In NVIDIA Control Panel Low Latency Mode - Ultra Threaded Optimization - On Triple Buffering - Off Vertical Sync - Off Hope that helps Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baz92 Posted December 2, 2022 Author Share Posted December 2, 2022 34 minutes ago, fc.cadoni said: Right click on Football Manager 2023 on Steam > Properties > Launch Options --disable_flip_discard In NVIDIA Control Panel Low Latency Mode - Ultra Threaded Optimization - On Triple Buffering - Off Vertical Sync - Off Hope that helps life saver mate that command done the trick. Bizarre though, any idea what causes that issue ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fc.cadoni Posted December 2, 2022 Share Posted December 2, 2022 15 minutes ago, Baz92 said: life saver mate that command done the trick. Bizarre though, any idea what causes that issue ? No idea mate. There some issues with night lighting and crowd as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcp1417 Posted December 2, 2022 Share Posted December 2, 2022 I'm having the same issue. Only happening today. What exactly does "--disable_flip_discard" do? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fc.cadoni Posted December 2, 2022 Share Posted December 2, 2022 1 minute ago, jcp1417 said: I'm having the same issue. Only happening today. What exactly does "--disable_flip_discard" do? Developer has been posted this line in bug tracker topic. Not very sure, but it does not affect your hardware. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SI Staff Michael Sant Posted December 3, 2022 SI Staff Share Posted December 3, 2022 In its simplest terms, the disable flip discard changes an element of the game back to a setting that was used prior to this most recent update. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nathwiggy Posted December 11, 2022 Share Posted December 11, 2022 I still have lots of lag even in 2D it needs sorting its making the game unplayable which is a shame as it is by far the best football game on the market Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alian62 Posted December 11, 2022 Share Posted December 11, 2022 (edited) On 03/12/2022 at 13:20, Michael Sant said: In its simplest terms, the disable flip discard changes an element of the game back to a setting that was used prior to this most recent update. Not quite? I could play on full settings before the update . Even with this solution I can't play on full settings so more needs to be done Edited December 11, 2022 by prot651 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lpool1 Posted December 11, 2022 Share Posted December 11, 2022 6 hours ago, prot651 said: Not quite? I could play on full settings before the update . Even with this solution I can't play on full settings so more needs to be done Same Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lpool1 Posted December 11, 2022 Share Posted December 11, 2022 9 hours ago, prot651 said: Not quite? I could play on full settings before the update . Even with this solution I can't play on full settings so more needs to be done I could play on medium to high... now can’t play on anything but 2D Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nathwiggy Posted December 11, 2022 Share Posted December 11, 2022 I cant even play on 2D without massive lag. Its making the game unplayable Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SI Staff EdL Posted December 11, 2022 SI Staff Share Posted December 11, 2022 Have you all tried passing in the --disable_flip_discard command line as above? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lpool1 Posted December 11, 2022 Share Posted December 11, 2022 1 hour ago, EdL said: Have you all tried passing in the --disable_flip_discard command line as above? I have numerous times.. done all troubleshooting.. b4 update fine if you look on forum loads in same bout also on steam! Not good at all Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SI Staff EdL Posted December 11, 2022 SI Staff Share Posted December 11, 2022 Yeah absolutely but everyonI've come across has solved it with that command as it reverts the rendering behaviour to pre-patch. What GPU and monitor have you got? Are you using a high refresh rate and g-sync or free_sync ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lpool1 Posted December 11, 2022 Share Posted December 11, 2022 37 minutes ago, EdL said: Yeah absolutely but everyonI've come across has solved it with that command as it reverts the rendering behaviour to pre-patch. What GPU and monitor have you got? Are you using a high refresh rate and g-sync or free_sync ? I have a 1650 Nvidia max q... 144hz monitor. I’ve come across a lot we’re it hasn’t.... no g sync or free sync. I’ve tried everything lowered it to 60hz nothing even worse. play matches on low graphics b4 update was fine buttery smooth now just a mess. Am not a novice at computers or software. Appreciate the response but we need a fix for this. If was not a fault from your side we would not have to be putting commands in to fix it... well some fixed but a lot not can’t play the game Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lpool1 Posted December 11, 2022 Share Posted December 11, 2022 Thanks for response though Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SI Staff EdL Posted December 11, 2022 SI Staff Share Posted December 11, 2022 Hmm that doesn't seem to match with the other issues we've received they've usually been solved by using the comman line and/or reducing the refresh rate. Basically the change for CU1 could cause the frame rate to become unbounded in some setups, which the game isn't designed to handle and would break some things. But your issue seems different perhaps. Also worth checking your nvidida control panel v-sync setting to make sure it sets to application default. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lpool1 Posted December 11, 2022 Share Posted December 11, 2022 54 minutes ago, EdL said: Hmm that doesn't seem to match with the other issues we've received they've usually been solved by using the comman line and/or reducing the refresh rate. Basically the change for CU1 could cause the frame rate to become unbounded in some setups, which the game isn't designed to handle and would break some things. But your issue seems different perhaps. Also worth checking your nvidida control panel v-sync setting to make sure it sets to application default. I’ve set it to 3D applications controlled also tried off... any suggestions other than this? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SI Staff EdL Posted December 11, 2022 SI Staff Share Posted December 11, 2022 I think you;ll have to create a support ticket as it seems your issue is different to the majority issue we are seeing then. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lpool1 Posted December 11, 2022 Share Posted December 11, 2022 6 minutes ago, EdL said: I think you;ll have to create a support ticket as it seems your issue is different to the majority issue we are seeing then. Done this with sega waiting for response different to ones that are being said... been speaking to them since the update came out thanks anyway Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lampy Posted December 12, 2022 Share Posted December 12, 2022 1 hour ago, Lpool1 said: Done this with sega waiting for response different to ones that are being said... been speaking to them since the update came out thanks anyway Can you keep me in the loop too? Having the same issue after trying the --disable_flip_discard Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lpool1 Posted December 12, 2022 Share Posted December 12, 2022 5 hours ago, lampy said: Can you keep me in the loop too? Having the same issue after trying the --disable_flip_discard Will do my mate fingers crossed doing my head in Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lampy Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 On 12/12/2022 at 06:23, Lpool1 said: Will do my mate fingers crossed doing my head in Mine seems to be fixed. Restarted computer with the --disable_flip_discard thing still there. Hope you get it fixed lad. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lpool1 Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 4 hours ago, lampy said: Mine seems to be fixed. Restarted computer with the --disable_flip_discard thing still there. Hope you get it fixed lad. same here mate nothing from sega... you got nvidia card? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lampy Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 1 hour ago, Lpool1 said: same here mate nothing from sega... you got nvidia card? Yeah, nvidia card but its from like 2011. One day I'll afford an upgrade Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lpool1 Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 15 minutes ago, lampy said: Yeah, nvidia card but its from like 2011. One day I'll afford an upgrade lol ye mines a year old still cant play 3d lol just trying laugh now till they fix stutter ........ 2d at mo like you said [blue disc player lol] Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pickle_Mick Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 On 02/12/2022 at 19:17, fc.cadoni said: Right click on Football Manager 2023 on Steam > Properties > Launch Options --disable_flip_discard In NVIDIA Control Panel Low Latency Mode - Ultra Threaded Optimization - On Triple Buffering - Off Vertical Sync - Off Hope that helps Hi, Do you know how to do this if you are playing through Game pass on PC? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alian62 Posted January 7, 2023 Share Posted January 7, 2023 7 hours ago, Pickle_Mick said: Hi, Do you know how to do this if you are playing through Game pass on PC? Ask in bug section Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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