Popular Post krlenjushka Posted February 12, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted February 12, 2023 (edited) This is complete serbian lower league system - its not 100% accurate because FM have limitations so i changed some leagues in levels 5 and 6. Level 1,2 and 3 - same as in real life. Level 4 is same but i removed promotion playoff from Beogradska zona because i had problems with playoffs between levels. Level 5 have some minor changes - 3 small leagues from kosovo are joined to nearest region. Also Moravička zona is now 1 division with 16 instead 2 with 10 teams. I simply dont like this "great ideas" from local FA. Level 6 is combination of all teams from levels 6 and 7 in real life. Some leagues are same - some leagues are changed so i have good number of teams - also i tried to avoid playoffs between divisions. Level 6 is set to be dynamic so number of teams will change from year to year based on number of relegated teams from above. Also system will change based on number of teams in every league. If league teams number drops - number of rounds will increase and if number of teams increase to 19 or more - system will change to groups. I did all this in order to include all teams from serbian system. In some small leagues i activated some extinct clubs (in reality those clubs sre not extinct but they dont compete every year) in order to get enough teams. Dynamic relegation system is included so there is no teams in wrong divisions. There is total 2084 teams. Cup competitions are also slightly changed. We have main national FA cup will have teams from top 2 levels + 4 regional winners from previous season. 4 regional cups will include winners of county cups and teams from level 3. Winners will qualify for FA cup next season. County cups will have teams from levels 4-6. Winners will qualify for regional cup. When you start the game you should choose level 6 Opštinske lige and click on "add players to playable teams" option in order to populate empty teams. Still need to test how removing 1 level will affect this file - for example when you promote to level 4 you dont need level6 anymore. Im sure i will have to update something but file is ready for now. File is tested 10 seasons on holiday and i didnt notice any problem. If you find any issue please let me know. Enjoy! DOWNLOAD Edited April 13, 2023 by krlenjushka 9 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
krlenjushka Posted February 12, 2023 Author Share Posted February 12, 2023 (edited) Reserved for updates.. Edited February 13, 2023 by krlenjushka 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrIgz Posted February 13, 2023 Share Posted February 13, 2023 Look forward to this, many thanks 😊 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
krlenjushka Posted February 13, 2023 Author Share Posted February 13, 2023 2 hours ago, DrIgz said: Look forward to this, many thanks 😊 Thanks i hope everything will be ok with league system. I tested some things and it seems SI fixed most of big issues. I still have lot of work... 6th level comps so far ... and i just started 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oche balboa Posted February 15, 2023 Share Posted February 15, 2023 Any extra cups involved? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
krlenjushka Posted February 15, 2023 Author Share Posted February 15, 2023 7 hours ago, oche balboa said: Any extra cups involved? County, regional and main cup. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dzukis87@gmail.com Posted February 18, 2023 Share Posted February 18, 2023 Can't wait this to go to the concrete of the Serbia 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
krlenjushka Posted February 20, 2023 Author Share Posted February 20, 2023 (edited) First test file is finished and its ok so far. Dynamic relegation system works 100%. Also multiple sets of rules for child comps works now so we can have different system based on number of teams in specific season. In my case all leagues from level 6 have regular league up to 18 clubs. When league reaches 19 teams system will change to 2 group system. Have some issues with team history but this was my fault because i forgot to set this. I have 81 leagues in level 6 and i have 9 promotion playoff stages in parent competition. Need to find some solution for these stages to be visible only in comps that gives teams for playoff. I hate when i have all playoffs listed in all comps. Thats it for now... Edited February 20, 2023 by krlenjushka 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
krlenjushka Posted February 23, 2023 Author Share Posted February 23, 2023 I changed system in level 6 because i had big problems with playoffs between leagues. This is always big problem and i dont wanna waste my time on this. I joined some leagues and now i have 61 division in level 6 - some leagues have groups. Also all leagues now have 1 or more promotion spots - direct or through playoff but now playoff is played between groups of same division and i dont have old problems anymore. System is tested 10 years on holiday and its ok for now. Dynamic relegation system works and all teams are in right divisions. Also divisions in level 6 change system when needed based on number of clubs. Still have lot of work. Need to test system again for 15-20 seasons. I must set colors for clubs and kits also. Finances, club reputation, contract status for leagues. Top 2 leagues are not set - just added for testing. Fixture and discipline rules. All domestic cups. A LOT of work but im on the right track. Lets hope winter update wont mess everything - we had problems sometimes in the past. Will keep you updated... 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vakama2619 Posted March 1, 2023 Share Posted March 1, 2023 How is this db coming along? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
krlenjushka Posted March 1, 2023 Author Share Posted March 1, 2023 3 hours ago, Vakama2619 said: How is this db coming along? Still have a lot of work. I just finished clubs reputation. File is tested 3 times for 10 seasons. When i add cups i will test again to make sure there is no clash dates. I will add some missing teams today and i will set all kits and colors. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichielVM Posted March 1, 2023 Share Posted March 1, 2023 Good luck 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
krlenjushka Posted March 2, 2023 Author Share Posted March 2, 2023 13 hours ago, MichielVM said: Good luck I guess its much easier for me because i dont have belgian "crazy" system Anyway - i made a good progress today. Clubs reputation is finished, all club colors and kits are set. Also i changed all stadiums from 0 to 200 capacity because FM have some bug and 0 capacity is set to 2500 in game. Wanted to have empty fields without any stands but i guess its impossible. Plan for tomorrow is this: 1. set training facilities and youth settings to all clubs. 2. set contract status to all divisions/levels. 3. test finances and set if needed - i think teams get too much money from sponsorship when i use default settings. After this i have couple more things to do: 1. set top 2 levels - i will copy system from default rules so this shoudnt take too much time. 2. make all domestic cups- main cup, regional and county cups. 3. set fixture and discipline rules and set all other rules related to nation - transfer windows, loan rules... I probably forgot something so this list is not final i guess. I have plans to add created players to all clubs in levels 4-6 because game generates players with same quality no matter what reputation of the club is. For this i need to create about 34000 players so every club have 17 real players. This way i can control quality of generated players and teams in higher levels and with higher reputation will have better players. Green is reputation of the clubs in specific level, yellow is average CA of players based on clubs reputation. Will keep you updated! 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vakama2619 Posted March 2, 2023 Share Posted March 2, 2023 Can't wait for release, might do a Serbia save Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichielVM Posted March 2, 2023 Share Posted March 2, 2023 5 hours ago, krlenjushka said: I guess its much easier for me because i dont have belgian "crazy" system Definitely haha! I just simplified things an got something working in the end 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichielVM Posted March 2, 2023 Share Posted March 2, 2023 7 hours ago, krlenjushka said: Green is reputation of the clubs in specific level, yellow is average CA of players based on clubs reputation. So the yellow is the average CA you use for the players you generate? Or is it the default level the game generates players at? How do you generate that many players anyway? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
krlenjushka Posted March 2, 2023 Author Share Posted March 2, 2023 1 hour ago, MichielVM said: So the yellow is the average CA you use for the players you generate? Or is it the default level the game generates players at? How do you generate that many players anyway? Yeah average CA. Game generates players 5-20 CA for all clubs when you use "add players to playable teams" option. Thats why i want to do this. I have list of players in my google sheets. I set only first and second name, nation, club, CA and PA. Game will set everything else. I use Editor Generator for players. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichielVM Posted March 3, 2023 Share Posted March 3, 2023 22 hours ago, krlenjushka said: Yeah average CA. Game generates players 5-20 CA for all clubs when you use "add players to playable teams" option. I just checked if this was the case in my DB, but it seems that there is more of a spread in the generated players, influenced by a few factors. To me it feels natural while playing, so that's ok. Just one more thing, when you speak of setting kits for your team, do you just add their colours and a basic template for their kit (I just put in the same basic kit for all teams with the same colours all at once) or is there another way to mass edit these? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
krlenjushka Posted March 3, 2023 Author Share Posted March 3, 2023 (edited) 4 hours ago, MichielVM said: I just checked if this was the case in my DB, but it seems that there is more of a spread in the generated players, influenced by a few factors. To me it feels natural while playing, so that's ok. Just one more thing, when you speak of setting kits for your team, do you just add their colours and a basic template for their kit (I just put in the same basic kit for all teams with the same colours all at once) or is there another way to mass edit these? Maybe its case for serbia only. About kits - i have team colors in excel and i use script to mass edit all clubs. I have plans to add this feature to editor generator but i dont have enough time for that now. I created script for my own use. BTW i have huge problems with contract types - again its bugged. Cant force AI teams to set proper contract types based on playing time... We had same issue back in FM16 i think... Edited March 3, 2023 by krlenjushka Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichielVM Posted March 3, 2023 Share Posted March 3, 2023 Do you use amateur contracts? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
krlenjushka Posted March 3, 2023 Author Share Posted March 3, 2023 16 minutes ago, MichielVM said: Do you use amateur contracts? I want to use amateur , non contract and part time based on playing time. Cant set anything. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichielVM Posted March 3, 2023 Share Posted March 3, 2023 1 minute ago, krlenjushka said: I want to use amateur , non contract and part time based on playing time. Cant set anything. I got something like that working. I do have all clubs as semi-pro/part time though. For the lowest leagues I put in that only star players and first team regulars have part-time contracts and then the players of lower playing time are amateur or non-contract. Where do you input that data? I could take a look as to how I did it, it has been a little while. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichielVM Posted March 3, 2023 Share Posted March 3, 2023 On 12/02/2023 at 13:43, krlenjushka said: System is modified in lower levels because dynamic relegation cant work properly if all regions dont have same number of division levels. Also, I might have found a workaround for this. But it is not perfect, maybe you might have ideas to further improve it. I have 8 levels in two regions and 9 in all the other eight regions. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
krlenjushka Posted March 4, 2023 Author Share Posted March 4, 2023 9 hours ago, MichielVM said: Also, I might have found a workaround for this. But it is not perfect, maybe you might have ideas to further improve it. I have 8 levels in two regions and 9 in all the other eight regions. I dont think you can have workaround because math is problem here. You have 2 possible cases: 1. If team is relegated from level 7 to level 8 where you have league bellow - you will have relegated teams in that level 8 division. 2. If team is relegated from level 7 to level 8 where you dont have league bellow - you will have more teams in that division in next season. Problem is this: number of team in level 8 will change every season and FM cant handle that without that "number of extra lower division teams to be promoted" settimgs. However you cant set that because you dont know what scenario will be at the end of season. 9 hours ago, MichielVM said: I got something like that working. I do have all clubs as semi-pro/part time though. For the lowest leagues I put in that only star players and first team regulars have part-time contracts and then the players of lower playing time are amateur or non-contract. Where do you input that data? I could take a look as to how I did it, it has been a little while. Can you take a look how you set that? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichielVM Posted March 4, 2023 Share Posted March 4, 2023 9 hours ago, krlenjushka said: Problem is this: number of team in level 8 will change every season and FM cant handle that without that "number of extra lower division teams to be promoted" settimgs. However you cant set that because you dont know what scenario will be at the end of season. I used 'other stage rules' > 'move teams to division before stage is created' to force the teams to their respective level and region before the competition starts and I mostly used one group competition per region per level. It seems to work well. One disadvantage is that it is difficult to set real life teams for the first season, but I might find a way around that eventually. For the contracts, I set this up in the data of both the parent competition and the child competitions: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
krlenjushka Posted March 4, 2023 Author Share Posted March 4, 2023 3 minutes ago, MichielVM said: I used 'other stage rules' > 'move teams to division before stage is created' to force the teams to their respective level and region before the competition starts and I mostly used one group competition per region per level. It seems to work well. One disadvantage is that it is difficult to set real life teams for the first season, but I might find a way around that eventually. Im not sure i understand how this works. 3 minutes ago, MichielVM said: For the contracts, I set this up in the data of both the parent competition and the child competitions: When i set like this - all AI players are set to part time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichielVM Posted March 4, 2023 Share Posted March 4, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, krlenjushka said: Im not sure i understand how this works. Here's a screeshot, basically it tells the game to put certain teams into a competition before a certain stage of that (or another competition) starts. It allows for a lot more control of what teams are in what competitions: Those secondary divisions are the 'tags' for the regions, just as in your dynamic relegation system it ignores all other regions. This is one of the regions with only 8 levels, the game is told here to add all teams from that region and that level (+ the lowest level, where there isn't a comp for this region) to the competition before the league stage starts. This is setup for all regional competitions, so all teams are 'forced' in the right regional division. I used a group competition to divide the teams in parallel leagues for the same level and region, as in real life there are sometimes 2 or more competitions for that region on that level ([3rd provincial Region X] A, [3rd provincial Region X] B, etc.) As for the contracts: that is strange. Is there some higher level data that could change this (maybe on the country level?) Edited March 4, 2023 by MichielVM Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
krlenjushka Posted March 6, 2023 Author Share Posted March 6, 2023 On 04/03/2023 at 14:53, MichielVM said: Here's a screeshot, basically it tells the game to put certain teams into a competition before a certain stage of that (or another competition) starts. It allows for a lot more control of what teams are in what competitions: Those secondary divisions are the 'tags' for the regions, just as in your dynamic relegation system it ignores all other regions. This is one of the regions with only 8 levels, the game is told here to add all teams from that region and that level (+ the lowest level, where there isn't a comp for this region) to the competition before the league stage starts. This is setup for all regional competitions, so all teams are 'forced' in the right regional division. I used a group competition to divide the teams in parallel leagues for the same level and region, as in real life there are sometimes 2 or more competitions for that region on that level ([3rd provincial Region X] A, [3rd provincial Region X] B, etc.) As for the contracts: that is strange. Is there some higher level data that could change this (maybe on the country level?) Sorry but i still dont get how this solve problem with number of relegated teams. I never used this option and i dont have a clue how it works. Can you contact me on discord? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichielVM Posted March 6, 2023 Share Posted March 6, 2023 28 minutes ago, krlenjushka said: Sorry but i still dont get how this solve problem with number of relegated teams. I never used this option and i dont have a clue how it works. Can you contact me on discord? Yeah, I'll send you a message. Hopefully you can use this method. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
krlenjushka Posted March 9, 2023 Author Share Posted March 9, 2023 (edited) - i finished lot of work in last couple days. - all training facilities and youth settings are done. - contract types are set to all comps - there is a bug so i changed levels 5 and 6 to ameteur. Also i had some issues with relegated teams from level 5 - they turns professional after relegation. This is reported in bugs forum and i also have some ideas how to solve this. - sponsorhip is set and tested - i still have some issues with level 4 clubs but i will probably sort this soon. - top 2 levels are set. - also all fixture and discipline rules are set. I started work on all domestic cups. Also i decided not to add players because it seems "add players to playable teams" option works now. I have different quality of players now based on reputation - only teams bellow reputation 500 have almost the same players. I turned off press conferences on levels 4,5 and 6 because its not realistic for Serbia. One friend made some list of media sources in serbia so plan is to add them to all lower levels and domestic cups. Unfortunately graphics is not ready but we can maybe make at least competition logos. This is all for now. Edited March 9, 2023 by krlenjushka 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vakama2619 Posted March 9, 2023 Share Posted March 9, 2023 Will this be usable in both the March update and original game or just one? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
krlenjushka Posted March 9, 2023 Author Share Posted March 9, 2023 6 minutes ago, Vakama2619 said: Will this be usable in both the March update and original game or just one? How can you play in original version - game is already updated... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vakama2619 Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 You can still set to play with the original database 2 hours ago, krlenjushka said: How can you play in original version - game is already updated... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
krlenjushka Posted March 10, 2023 Author Share Posted March 10, 2023 9 hours ago, Vakama2619 said: You can still set to play with the original database sorry i didnt understand what you asked. im not sure but i guess you can. i never tried that. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
aeightBee Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 3 hours ago, krlenjushka said: sorry i didnt understand what you asked. im not sure but i guess you can. i never tried that. They're referring to the original database from 23.0, which is possible if the file was verified with that database. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
krlenjushka Posted April 13, 2023 Author Share Posted April 13, 2023 File is finished. Download link is in the first post. Enjoy! 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vakama2619 Posted April 14, 2023 Share Posted April 14, 2023 YES YES YES Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
R0pe Posted April 14, 2023 Share Posted April 14, 2023 Hey i added the mod but i cant choose which leagues i want to play it just gives me super liga, Prva liga and Srpske lige it appears like a blanck Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
krlenjushka Posted April 15, 2023 Author Share Posted April 15, 2023 13 hours ago, R0pe said: Hey i added the mod but i cant choose which leagues i want to play it just gives me super liga, Prva liga and Srpske lige it appears like a blanck have you changed something in editor? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
R0pe Posted April 15, 2023 Share Posted April 15, 2023 56 minutes ago, krlenjushka said: have you changed something in editor? no i just downloaded it added to editor data and opened up in game Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
krlenjushka Posted April 15, 2023 Author Share Posted April 15, 2023 9 hours ago, R0pe said: no i just downloaded it added to editor data and opened up in game Im not sure whats the problem - i tried to download and it works 100%. Do you use some other files with this? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
R0pe Posted April 17, 2023 Share Posted April 17, 2023 idk i have football manager 23.0.0 maybe thats the problem Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
krlenjushka Posted April 17, 2023 Author Share Posted April 17, 2023 (edited) 8 hours ago, R0pe said: idk i have football manager 23.0.0 maybe thats the problem I will try to test it on 23.0.0 and send it to you. Its tested and verified only at 23.4.0 EDIT: unfortunately i cant verify this on 23.0.0 Edited April 17, 2023 by krlenjushka Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
R0pe Posted April 17, 2023 Share Posted April 17, 2023 ok Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ACA1996 Posted May 20, 2023 Share Posted May 20, 2023 ja zivim u radicevicu i igram sanjima hvala ti na ovom dodatku javi mi se na diskord Aleksandar Kalabic#1678 pa ti mogu dati neke podatke jos o klubu Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LuDen883 Posted June 25, 2023 Share Posted June 25, 2023 Hey I have the same problem as the guy above, I can only choose 3 tiers, it says that it is verified on 23.0.0 and 24.4.0 I am playing on 24.3.0 version is there any fix to that? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lipke212121 Posted August 22, 2023 Share Posted August 22, 2023 When I load this file and try to play as any team in Super League I can register only 4 Serbian players for match. They count them as foreigners for some reason. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostconnectionagain Posted December 3, 2023 Share Posted December 3, 2023 On 22/08/2023 at 20:46, lipke212121 said: When I load this file and try to play as any team in Super League I can register only 4 Serbian players for match. They count them as foreigners for some reason. I have the same issue Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pierre16 Posted February 6 Share Posted February 6 Are you planning something like this for fm24? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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