HanziZoloman Posted August 7, 2023 Share Posted August 7, 2023 Haha no Problem with you being honest. How do you think about the fact that (even in VNS) we only play with one attack duty @Johnny Ace? and thanksĀ 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Ace Posted August 7, 2023 Author Share Posted August 7, 2023 8 minutes ago, HanziZoloman said: Haha no Problem with you being honest. How do you think about the fact that (even in VNS) we only play with one attack duty @Johnny Ace? and thanksĀ Don't worry about the number of D, S or A roles you have, if watching the match you don't feel you have enough or that you can exploit something, go for itĀ Ā 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanziZoloman Posted August 8, 2023 Share Posted August 8, 2023 I will post my tactic here as well, because I am crazy overperforming with a squad that is overwhelming candidate for relegation. Of course we play a very simple 433 variant as our players have weaknesses like passing 2 or decision 5 or dribbling 5.Ā Here is the tactic:Ā Before Samuel Martin plays as a MEZ(S) but I changed it into a simple MC(S) with take more risks and more direct passing because I want his incredible vision 14 to shine upon my poacher. You could argue that the left MC(S) is again a boring role with nothing special and of course a great BWM would be of help but the player is again more like a ball distributer and is rather slow (acceleration 4) but a lot of vision and passing and teamwork. Also the MC(S) stay close to my A(D) (PI short passes/ passing 4) who is really confident with the absolute basics of the role and with two MC(S) close to him they're always take the challenges together which is important. I chose two flying WB(S) because my FB options are either slow but without any braveness which is stupid or fast without any other skills so fast without anything else is it. This will give my wide attackers the possibility to cut inside. My front three are my best players they should do what they know best. The IW(S) will play through balls and help the team with his high workrate / teamwork and the left one is quick, composed, has enough vision, passing and finishing to play as a IF(S) which is important, a fact I kept ignoring before and just put any player in that role. Of course TI need to be compact and simple a kind of soak up pressure with the CD and the A(D) and then hit the counter. The WB(S) help a lot in that scenario with acc 13 and pace 13 and they can really shine in their most important skill despite having passing 2 and other deficits. Note that there is only one A duty. Spoiler The results are amazing this autumn. I never had a run like this in all those years (11th season now running): Spoiler Thanks for all the help here. I enjoy that run while it lasts, I'm sure it will not be forever. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain_T Posted August 8, 2023 Share Posted August 8, 2023 vor 7 Stunden schrieb HanziZoloman: I will post my tactic here as well, because I am crazy overperforming with a squad that is overwhelming candidate for relegation. Of course we play a very simple 433 variant as our players have weaknesses like passing 2 or decision 5 or dribbling 5.Ā Here is the tactic:Ā Before Samuel Martin plays as a MEZ(S) but I changed it into a simple MC(S) with take more risks and more direct passing because I want his incredible vision 14 to shine upon my poacher. You could argue that the left MC(S) is again a boring role with nothing special and of course a great BWM would be of help but the player is again more like a ball distributer and is rather slow (acceleration 4) but a lot of vision and passing and teamwork. Also the MC(S) stay close to my A(D) (PI short passes/ passing 4) who is really confident with the absolute basics of the role and with two MC(S) close to him they're always take the challenges together which is important. I chose two flying WB(S) because my FB options are either slow but without any braveness which is stupid or fast without any other skills so fast without anything else is it. This will give my wide attackers the possibility to cut inside. My front three are my best players they should do what they know best. The IW(S) will play through balls and help the team with his high workrate / teamwork and the left one is quick, composed, has enough vision, passing and finishing to play as a IF(S) which is important, a fact I kept ignoring before and just put any player in that role. Of course TI need to be compact and simple a kind of soak up pressure with the CD and the A(D) and then hit the counter. The WB(S) help a lot in that scenario with acc 13 and pace 13 and they can really shine in their most important skill despite having passing 2 and other deficits. Note that there is only one A duty. Ā Inhalt unsichtbar machen The results are amazing this autumn. I never had a run like this in all those years (11th season now running): Ā Inhalt unsichtbar machen Thanks for all the help here. I enjoy that run while it lasts, I'm sure it will not be forever. Did you play with that tactic from the beginning of the season? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanziZoloman Posted August 9, 2023 Share Posted August 9, 2023 (edited) vor 13 Stunden schrieb Captain_T: Did you play with that tactic from the beginning of the season? No (I believe it was the Margate game) I first played the right MC(S) as a MEZ(S) and the left WB on attack which produced good results against teams less capable than mine but was devastating against top teams. The moment I switched the moment it got better. I think the MEZ got away from the triangle especially the A(D) too often which creates gaps in midfield, keeping them tight together is good and the WB(A) could not cross which comes by default (cross more often) with a WB(S) the player plays more through balls into the IF(S) which is exactly whatās suits my players better. But I thought I canāt play with just one A duty. But my team is used to a 433 since years we are well adjusted to this style of football and still we are relegation candidates number one we donāt dominate against every team but we are giving even top teams a hard time. Next matches against Bath (a league above) weāre a draw at home and a close loss away (1:0) the game was dominated by Bath but could go either way. Ā Edited August 9, 2023 by HanziZoloman Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lemon_Head Posted August 11, 2023 Share Posted August 11, 2023 I was wondering if you can do a short segment on using an IWB on a 433? I'm really curious to see what's your philosophy on it and how you would set it up? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Ace Posted August 11, 2023 Author Share Posted August 11, 2023 5 minutes ago, Lemon_Head said: I was wondering if you can do a short segment on using an IWB on a 433? I'm really curious to see what's your philosophy on it and how you would set it up? I touched on it a little in the CF(A) 4-3-3 DM postĀ @Lemon_Head It's not a role I use very often to be honest but I'll see if I can come up with something interesting over the weekend, they're usually a bit of fun to play withĀ Ā 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Ace Posted August 11, 2023 Author Share Posted August 11, 2023 For @Lemon_Head... The 4-3-3-DM - Inverted Wingback (Attack) Just a quick run down, starting at the back, WB(S) gives us width on the right so I can invert the right forwardĀ Of course, the IWB(A)Ā There's plenty of jive out wide so not much happening in midfield, I could be tempted with a BBM(S) over on the right but not much more Up top, the left Winger gets forward and provides the width giving plenty of space to the IWB, the DLF drops deep which helps the IWB keep up with play, IF(A) over on the right, this could easily be on (S), the DLF too, an F9 or CF(S) could be a nice touch You can see, the main event here is the flanks, the midfield trio just let them get on with it Spoiler Some bonus GIFs for fun You can see him here move from the LB position and run into an acre of space for the goal Spoiler Here he gets forward and again they fail to pick him up to create a goal Spoiler Ā Starts off an attack and finishes itĀ Spoiler Ā 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanziZoloman Posted August 12, 2023 Share Posted August 12, 2023 (edited) Nice touch @Johnny AceĀ if FB is wrong footed but capable to play right/ left I even could try it with RicayĀ but: two attacking duties on one side plus the roaming BWM is no problem (?) How to create close to this movement but with more security (?) put the W on (S) ? or MC(S) ? Edited August 12, 2023 by HanziZoloman 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mutumba Posted August 12, 2023 Share Posted August 12, 2023 (edited) 13 hours ago, Johnny Ace said: For @Lemon_Head... The 4-3-3-DM - Inverted Wingback (Attack) Just a quick run down, starting at the back, WB(S) gives us width on the right so I can invert the right forwardĀ Of course, the IWB(A)Ā There's plenty of jive out wide so not much happening in midfield, I could be tempted with a BBM(S) over on the right but not much more Up top, the left Winger gets forward and provides the width giving plenty of space to the IWB, the DLF drops deep which helps the IWB keep up with play, IF(A) over on the right, this could easily be on (S), the DLF too, an F9 or CF(S) could be a nice touch You can see, the main event here is the flanks, the midfield trio just let them get on with it Ā Reveal hidden contents Some bonus GIFs for fun You can see him here move from the LB position and run into an acre of space for the goal Ā Reveal hidden contents Here he gets forward and again they fail to pick him up to create a goal Ā Hide contents Ā Starts off an attack and finishes itĀ Ā Reveal hidden contents Ā I cant seem to find it now but you recommended a FB-A role along with a W-s, and how beutiful they combine. Is it applicable in your IWB-A tactic do you think? Even tho it would mean two wingers and no IF? Maybe use a CMat? I.e: gk FBa Cd Cd IWBa A CM BWM Ws Wa ?? Edited August 12, 2023 by Mutumba 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Ace Posted August 12, 2023 Author Share Posted August 12, 2023 1 minute ago, Mutumba said: I cant seem to find it now but you recommended a FB-A role along with a W-s, and how beutiful they combine. Is it applicable in your IWB-A tactic do you think? Even tho it would mean two wingers and no IF? Maybe use a CMat? I.e: gk FBa Cd Cd IWBa A CM BWM Ws Wa ?? I think that was in theĀ 4-2-3-1 DM thread. I wouldn't use a FB(A) on the same side of the pitch as a CM(A) unless the DM and defence is absolutely phenomenal. CM(S) would be fine, give it a try outĀ 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lasson Posted August 12, 2023 Share Posted August 12, 2023 (edited) I'm possibly addicted to creating and playing around with tactics in this game. This is my new 4-3-3 variant with an attempt to make some sort of box midfield implementing a IWBs on the left hand side. Ws on the left and WBa on the right are tasked with keeping the width on the sides while the IWBs and IFs goes on adventures on the inside. Edited August 12, 2023 by Lasson 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
77charisma77 Posted August 12, 2023 Share Posted August 12, 2023 22 hours ago, Johnny Ace said: For @Lemon_Head... The 4-3-3-DM - Inverted Wingback (Attack) Just a quick run down, starting at the back, WB(S) gives us width on the right so I can invert the right forwardĀ Of course, the IWB(A)Ā There's plenty of jive out wide so not much happening in midfield, I could be tempted with a BBM(S) over on the right but not much more Up top, the left Winger gets forward and provides the width giving plenty of space to the IWB, the DLF drops deep which helps the IWB keep up with play, IF(A) over on the right, this could easily be on (S), the DLF too, an F9 or CF(S) could be a nice touch You can see, the main event here is the flanks, the midfield trio just let them get on with it Ā Reveal hidden contents Some bonus GIFs for fun You can see him here move from the LB position and run into an acre of space for the goal Ā Reveal hidden contents Here he gets forward and again they fail to pick him up to create a goal Ā Reveal hidden contents Ā Starts off an attack and finishes itĀ Ā Reveal hidden contents Ā What's the reason behind SK(a)? Ā The same for the W(a) - why not W(s)? The W(a) is paired Ā with the attacking duty IWB on the left flank, and also forms an all attacking trident up front with the DLF(a) + IF(a)Ā Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Ace Posted August 12, 2023 Author Share Posted August 12, 2023 10 minutes ago, 77charisma77 said: What's the reason behind SK(a)? I had a SK(A) and was playing a high lineĀ 10 minutes ago, 77charisma77 said: The same for the W(a) - why not W(s)? The W(a) is paired Ā with the attacking duty IWB on the left flank, and also forms an all attacking trident up front with the DLF(a) + IF(a)Ā The Winger stays wide of the IWB(A), could easy be on Support thoughĀ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Ace Posted August 17, 2023 Author Share Posted August 17, 2023 Last one now, I put this together a while ago and just didn't get around to posting it, kind of a fun base with a possession based style in mind I could go through each strata but I'd be repeating myself, but just looking at them, you'll get the idea of what I was trying to do This one includes a F9 and a Mezzala (Attack) with a top team in mindĀ Spoiler Ā 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cal585 Posted August 19, 2023 Share Posted August 19, 2023 I'm looking for some advice on recreating Melbourne City's old 4-3-3. Trying to form overloads on the left (IW + MEZ + WBA + Focus Left), with the striker being the main goalscorer and the RW being the 2nd striker or out ball with the idea to isolate him 1v1 with the FB. They would often build up down the left, and either combine through the spaces there or draw the opposition in and switch the play while the striker was always ready to break in behind. The right sided FB would be more conservative for balance reasons, while the right sided midfielder would push out to support the right once the switch was made. In my testing I'm struggling to make the RW effective. Any suggestion as to roles? I've toyed with making ST a Poacher, going a double Mez in the middle, DM or DLP in behind, an IWB on the right and a whole host of roles for the RW who currently has Stay Wide PI. Suspect a Raumdeuter might be better than an IF, though I've also experimented with a WTF but while this achieves the out ball option I want, don't think it helps with the left overload. Winger (A) would also be good if he was left footed... Ā Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Ace Posted August 19, 2023 Author Share Posted August 19, 2023 I've already covered pretty much everything in your tactic throughout the thread @Cal585 Mezzala's, Overloads, IF(A), PF(A), midfield and the fullbacksĀ There's an index here to quickly find them rather than trawl through the pages Ā Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cal585 Posted August 19, 2023 Share Posted August 19, 2023 31 minutes ago, Johnny Ace said: I've already covered pretty much everything in your tactic throughout the thread @Cal585 Mezzala's, Overloads, IF(A), PF(A), midfield and the fullbacksĀ Sorry, I had somehow missed the Overloads part, which is quite similar to what I'm trying. I'm just making it harder on myself with a less supportive FB and an attacking striker which kinda takes away from the overload theory unfortunately. Do you find that play narrower is a useful team instruction for this? I hadn't thought to try it. Also was there a reason you ended up going IF(A) over Raumdeuter? Also, really appreciate your various musings in the thread which I don't think I've said yet! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Ace Posted August 19, 2023 Author Share Posted August 19, 2023 3 minutes ago, Cal585 said: Sorry, I had somehow missed the Overloads part, which is quite similar to what I'm trying. I'm just making it harder on myself with a less supportive FB and an attacking striker which kinda takes away from the overload theory unfortunately. Exactly!Ā Ā I think using the overload to focus on a wide attacker is worthwhile when you want that wide attacker to be the main scorerĀ 5 minutes ago, Cal585 said: Ā Do you find that play narrower is a useful team instruction for this? For the wide attacker it can help bring them in toward goal a little more, playing wider can get them on the ball more but with more work to do to get to goal, it's worth experimenting with though 6 minutes ago, Cal585 said: Ā Also was there a reason you ended up going IF(A) over Raumdeuter? I'm not keen on the RMD this year, I thought it was great in FM22Ā Ā IF(A) is the next best goal scoring wide attackerĀ 8 minutes ago, Cal585 said: Also, really appreciate your various musings in the thread which I don't think I've said yet! Thank you, I hope it's of some useĀ 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lasson Posted August 20, 2023 Share Posted August 20, 2023 Just took a quick screenshot of my team having the ball. I really like the shape we are achieving. It's kinda like a 2-6-2 with a box midfield. 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chiravilla Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 Hi Johnny! How do you see the setup with the Raumdauter? I think 433dm has great potential for this role and I am curious about midfield area + opposite winger in a simple way. Cheers! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Ace Posted August 21, 2023 Author Share Posted August 21, 2023 8 minutes ago, Chiravilla said: Hi Johnny! How do you see the setup with the Raumdauter? I think 433dm has great potential for this role and I am curious about midfield area + opposite winger in a simple way. Cheers! I gave up on the RMD, he's more like a winger now than a wide striker whenever I've used it, but my RMD tactic from 2021 and 2022Ā was pretty much this one I used a DLF(S) because I didn't have a F9 and the RMD instead of the IF(A). I used an IW because that's what I had and used a Winbgack but there's no reason not to use a WingerĀ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bosque Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 On 20/08/2023 at 10:23, Lasson said: Just took a quick screenshot of my team having the ball. I really like the shape we are achieving. It's kinda like a 2-6-2 with a box midfield. Can you share the camera settings? I really like that view Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lasson Posted August 22, 2023 Share Posted August 22, 2023 On 21/08/2023 at 15:39, bosque said: Can you share the camera settings? I really like that view Sure. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ejleal Posted August 25, 2023 Share Posted August 25, 2023 (edited) Set-up I'm currently using with braga in my second season. What do you think @Johnny Ace? The mezzala and inverted winger were changed from support to attack duty to be more agressive, since I was already playing with high lines and previous changes to positive mentality weren't too great. Edited August 25, 2023 by ejleal Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Ace Posted August 25, 2023 Author Share Posted August 25, 2023 3 minutes ago, ejleal said: Set-up I'm currently using with braga in my second season. What do you think @Johnny Ace? I'd probably use a Wingback on the left and an IW(S) on the right, but try it out and see what you thinkĀ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ejleal Posted August 25, 2023 Share Posted August 25, 2023 7 minutes ago, Johnny Ace said: I'd probably use a Wingback on the left and an IW(S) on the right, but try it out and see what you thinkĀ You dont think the mezzala in attack and the IW in support could get in each others way? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Ace Posted August 25, 2023 Author Share Posted August 25, 2023 Just now, ejleal said: You dont think the mezzala in attack and the IW in support could get in each others way? I'd prefer a Winger but it isn't a deal breakerĀ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ejleal Posted August 25, 2023 Share Posted August 25, 2023 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Johnny Ace said: I'd prefer a Winger but it isn't a deal breakerĀ i've seen that the IW ratings tended to suffer a bit when in support duty and the mezzala in attack, as opposed to both in support for example Edited August 25, 2023 by ejleal Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Ace Posted August 25, 2023 Author Share Posted August 25, 2023 Just now, ejleal said: i've seen that the IW ratings tended to suffer a bit when in support duty and the mezzala in attack, as opposed to both in support. If they're doing what you want them to do, don't worry about ratings, if they're not and the ratings are poor, change it upĀ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Puluzu Posted August 25, 2023 Share Posted August 25, 2023 I haven't read through the entire thread yet, but how have you guys liked CM/a so far if you've tried it? I'm in my first season of FM23 and went with Real Madrid for an easy save to start off. I've been using a midfield triangle of BWM(s) at DM, DLP(s) and CM/a. Valverde won player of the year (in Dec/Jan so six months into the save) even though he played second string to Milinkovic-Savic in that role haha. Both have been lighting it up with both goals and assists when I have Benzema as DLF(a) up front, but understandably the production was considerably lower with an AF upfront when Benz got injured and I played Rodrygo there. It's still good, but not "striker level good". 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ejleal Posted August 25, 2023 Share Posted August 25, 2023 3 hours ago, Johnny Ace said: I'd probably use a Wingback on the left and an IW(S) on the right, but try it out and see what you thinkĀ Wingback on support or attack duty? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Ace Posted August 25, 2023 Author Share Posted August 25, 2023 2 minutes ago, ejleal said: Wingback on support or attack duty? Support with the DM(S)Ā Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eXistenZ Posted August 26, 2023 Share Posted August 26, 2023 (edited) Hoping for some advice as well. Started a new career as boavista. Doing reasonably well, but in part to sporting having a bad season and a highest rated goalie + striker outperforming their xg. Also the shedule was fairly kind, spreading out the difficult matches as to avoid a morale downward spiral But I often run into games like this. Decent possession (usually more than this), but very poor shots on goal ratio. The two wide players can sometimes have terrible offdays and sink to 6.4 within the first 25minutes. very few highlits. And they are usually for the opposition Also I heard BTN say on one of his recent streams that the 433 this year is one that produces not great output/xg in general, Which is my experience as well but then again I havent toiled around with many systems this year Edited August 26, 2023 by eXistenZ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lasson Posted August 26, 2023 Share Posted August 26, 2023 11 minutes ago, eXistenZ said: I don't see many problems with your setup. There's a couple of things I would do: 1. IW(a) to W(s) 2. DM(d) to DM(s) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bababooey Posted August 27, 2023 Share Posted August 27, 2023 Just wanted to drop in and say how great this thread is.Ā Forgive me if someone has already mentioned this, but, I'm curious what folks think about using 2 inverted wide men on a single flank?Ā So,Ā IWB-S / IW-A OR IWB-A / IF-S, for example.Ā And, if this is considered to be too extreme / lacking width, wouldn't it help if you added a player instruction for the more advanced player to "stay wider" ?Ā Ā Cheers Ā Ā Ā 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Ace Posted August 27, 2023 Author Share Posted August 27, 2023 35 minutes ago, bababooey said: Just wanted to drop in and say how great this thread is.Ā Cheers palĀ 35 minutes ago, bababooey said: Forgive me if someone has already mentioned this, but, I'm curious what folks think about using 2 inverted wide men on a single flank?Ā So,Ā IWB-S / IW-A OR IWB-A / IF-S, for example.Ā And, if this is considered to be too extreme / lacking width, wouldn't it help if you added a player instruction for the more advanced player to "stay wider" ?Ā Ā Cheers It's not for me to be honest, I don't even like using IFs/IWs with FBs but there's nothing to say you can't, best thing is to give it a try and see what you thinkĀ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bababooey Posted August 27, 2023 Share Posted August 27, 2023 15 minutes ago, Johnny Ace said: Cheers palĀ It's not for me to be honest, I don't even like using IFs/IWs with FBs but there's nothing to say you can't, best thing is to give it a try and see what you thinkĀ Could you expand a bit on why that is? Is there a theory behind it or is it just from experience? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vladis Posted August 28, 2023 Share Posted August 28, 2023 9 hours ago, bababooey said: Just wanted to drop in and say how great this thread is.Ā Forgive me if someone has already mentioned this, but, I'm curious what folks think about using 2 inverted wide men on a single flank?Ā So,Ā IWB-S / IW-A OR IWB-A / IF-S, for example.Ā And, if this is considered to be too extreme / lacking width, wouldn't it help if you added a player instruction for the more advanced player to "stay wider" ?Ā Ā Cheers Ā Ā Ā I use successfully IWB(S) on the flank with IW(A) and CM (A). IW has instruction to stay wider. And I also use TI "stay wider". This combination of PI and TI helps to ensure that we could still stretch the opposition defense and at the same time have numerous superiority in central area. Works like a charm. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Ace Posted August 28, 2023 Author Share Posted August 28, 2023 11 hours ago, bababooey said: Could you expand a bit on why that is? Is there a theory behind it or is it just from experience? I like to try and cover as many channels as possible and the wide roles are the only roles that cover the outer channels, so inverting two of the wide roles on one flank loses having a player on the outer channel, just personal preferenceĀ 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bababooey Posted August 28, 2023 Share Posted August 28, 2023 7 hours ago, Johnny Ace said: I like to try and cover as many channels as possible and the wide roles are the only roles that cover the outer channels, so inverting two of the wide roles on one flank loses having a player on the outer channel, just personal preferenceĀ Okay, I see. That does make sense!Ā I'm in the middle of a Dortmund save rolling with a 4-3-3, taking inspiration from this thread. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lasson Posted August 28, 2023 Share Posted August 28, 2023 1. I do think that it can work with an IW in front of an IWB.Ā 2. I do not think it can work with an IF in front of an IWB. The reason behind my thinking is that, in my mind, the IF comes inside even without the ball to occupy the half space. The IW will hold the width a tad better, coming inside with the ball.Ā I would imagine it works the best with a W, though, and that is also what I've been using in my current 4-3-3.Ā 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skywalk3r83 Posted August 29, 2023 Share Posted August 29, 2023 Here is my 4-3-3, most of the player roles are from a tactic from this thread somewhere as I read this again yesterday and today. Any suggestions? Maybe on the team instructions? Thanks! PS. No player instructions are used. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bababooey Posted August 29, 2023 Share Posted August 29, 2023 1 hour ago, Skywalk3r83 said: Here is my 4-3-3, most of the player roles are from a tactic from this thread somewhere as I read this again yesterday and today. Any suggestions? Maybe on the team instructions? Thanks! PS. No player instructions are used. Well, it depends on what type of football you want to play.Ā You named the tactical "kejinball" - so, what exactly do you want that to look like? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skywalk3r83 Posted August 30, 2023 Share Posted August 30, 2023 6 hours ago, bababooey said: Well, it depends on what type of football you want to play.Ā You named the tactical "kejinball" - so, what exactly do you want that to look like? Don't mind the tactical style, that's from a previous tactic that morphed into this one.Ā I just want to play with a minimal set of team instructions and came up with this setup.Ā Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanziZoloman Posted August 30, 2023 Share Posted August 30, 2023 (edited) The AP(A) + W(S) combination is good, with Ajax you should play decent football with that tactic. Maybe youāll need to tweak a bit to address all those deep sitting teams against you in Eredivisie. Lucca could easily be a DLF(A)Ā Edited August 30, 2023 by HanziZoloman 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Ace Posted August 30, 2023 Author Share Posted August 30, 2023 Looks good to me @Skywalk3r83Ā and I agree with @HanziZoloman Lucca to DLF(A) is an optionĀ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skywalk3r83 Posted August 30, 2023 Share Posted August 30, 2023 23 minutes ago, Johnny Ace said: Looks good to me @Skywalk3r83Ā and I agree with @HanziZoloman Lucca to DLF(A) is an optionĀ Thanks! I will give it a go tonight! Lucca is playing because Tadic is injured for 3 months, but he scores a lot of goals from set pieces. Still toying a bit with the team instructions, want to use work ball into box but with Lucca it isn't an option at this moment. Maybe i'll add Hit early crosses. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanziZoloman Posted August 30, 2023 Share Posted August 30, 2023 vor 40 Minuten schrieb Skywalk3r83: Thanks! I will give it a go tonight! Lucca is playing because Tadic is injured for 3 months, but he scores a lot of goals from set pieces. Still toying a bit with the team instructions, want to use work ball into box but with Lucca it isn't an option at this moment. Maybe i'll add Hit early crosses. With Ajax you could really try and recreate movements from the bigger clubs. Like what is described in the total football thread by @crusadertsarĀ to add some spice. Or with Lucca you could also recreate the Son - Kane partnership which is described here earlier on. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skywalk3r83 Posted August 30, 2023 Share Posted August 30, 2023 15 minutes ago, HanziZoloman said: With Ajax you could really try and recreate movements from the bigger clubs. Like what is described in the total football thread by @crusadertsarĀ to add some spice. Or with Lucca you could also recreate the Son - Kane partnership which is described here earlier on. Thanks for the suggestion! I'll look into it, i'm not a tactical genius so it's mostly trial and error but we will see. Kane as DLFa and Son as an IFa? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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