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[update 1.1] FM23 Chielen's Total Belgian Lower League Overhaul

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FM 23 Steam link: https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2980126791

A full rework of the Belgian Lower League Pyramid, containing all teams and B-teams, all competitions in the Belgian Pyramid (up to level 9 (4th provincial), including regional cups and youth leagues) with a dynamic and regional relegation and promotion system which has been streamlined and simplified, the complete Belgian Cup/Croky Cup starting from the first round, awards for all competitions, new media sources, new names for newgens, all places in Belgium and data updates to Belgium in general for more accuracy.

 

NEW IN THIS VERSION:

* A lot of local derbies were added

* Added some smaller regional cups

* ‘Year founded’ was added to most A-teams

* Added details to a lot of clubs (club icons, kits, supporter objectives, affiliated teams…)

* Further improved stability

 

NEW IN UPDATE 1.1:

* Many small corrections (unreadable colour combinations, founding years, names…)

* Almost all teams from the base-game database now link to their correct ID for logopacks.

- Be sure to use a recent logopack, specifically for FM23, as there were quite a few changes to Belgian teams in this year’s game

* Further improved stability of the relegation system, hopefully the issue where no new fixtures are generated anymore after a random number of seasons is now completely fixed

* Fixed an issue where some players contracted to teams at the start of the game did not show up at all

* Team history should now work on all levels

* On the lower levels B-teams are no longer allowed to use players that have already played for the A-team in the same week

 

SETUP:

* Put the file in this folder if you download manually (on windows): My Documents > Sports Interactive > Football Manager 2023> editor data

* Use advanced setup when starting the save, make sure you have the file checked for loading.

* In the advanced setup, check 'add players to playable teams' to fill the new lower league teams.

* The game MUST be played with the lowest possible Belgian Division (Vierde Provinciale/Quatrième Provinciale (BEL)) playable for everything to work properly.

* It is advised to edit the 'loaded' players (dropdown under 'Approximate Player Count' ==> 'Advanced') and add all categories of Belgian Players.

* The game will need some time to generate players for the lower league teams, after which you can play the game normally.

* Works great with Zealands NewGAN Facepack!

* English as ‘data language’ is recommended

 

RULES:

The highest three division levels are more or less like in real life. Below that level, teams play two rounds (home and away) and the champion at the end is promoted. Only on the fifth level (3rd division), two of four divisions have two promoted teams instead. The system is set up as such that teams will be grouped by region automatically each season, the system will also relegate more or less teams per region depending on the number of teams from that region that are relegated from the divisions above. This means that the number of teams relegated from each division can fluctuate, all teams in the relegation zone are thus at risk of relegation. Each province has a regional cup, teams that get far enough in these regional cups, qualify for the national cup (Croky Cup) in the next season.

 

As of now, the composition of the lower provincial levels is dynamic, when setting up the game for the first time, different teams will play in series A, B, C… of the same province every time.

 

Sometimes B-teams get force-relegated as their A-team is relegated from a level above. In some scenario’s the dynamic relegation does not account for this properly. To compensate for this, an extra team from the same province from the level below will be added to the division, to keep everything stable and in working order.

When the system gets into trouble, it will correct itself by moving teams as necessary.

 

KNOWN ISSUES:

* INSERTFIRST/SECOND as a name for newgens ⇒ use a nickname if you encounter this issue

* INSERTFIRST/SECOND as a name for social media users in-game ⇒ no known fix

Contact me if you encounter any other issues!

 

CREDITS:

By Chielen

Many thanks to Krlenjuska, Endrieq, D.B. and Ryan

 

VERSION HISTORY:

* Release FM23-version: 24/5/2023

* Release version 1.1: 6/8/2023

* Hotfix version 1.1: 7/8/2023
* Hotfix version 1.1: 30/8/2023

 

 

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Hi,
  

The database has been put in the right place, but I get the message: "this data is incompatible - please load it into the editor and re-save". So I can't start it. any idea how this can be solved?
 
 
 
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On 18/06/2023 at 23:19, Joeridc2 said:

Hi,
  

The database has been put in the right place, but I get the message: "this data is incompatible - please load it into the editor and re-save". So I can't start it. any idea how this can be solved?
 
 
 

Are you on the most recent version of FM23?

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I'd love to start in belgium in lower leagues but probably I'll have to run a simulation for few years to see if the general problem with finances in belgium has been solved.

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Em 21/06/2023 em 14:46, Bigpole disse:

I'd love to start in belgium in lower leagues but probably I'll have to run a simulation for few years to see if the general problem with finances in belgium has been solved.

Please share your results

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4 hours ago, Drogbanian said:

Ik krijg melding 'Dit databestand moet getest en goedgekeurd worden voordat het gebruikt kan worden in de database'. Waarschijnlijk omdat ik nog 23.0.0 zit?

Exact, je moet versie 23.4.0 gebruiken.

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12 hours ago, Wolf_pd said:

Is it OK when I would use (some of) the new clubs you created for this file for the Historical Divergence project?

Well, I did not 'create' the teams, they exist in real life, but I did create this file. Would you like to use the file for a personal project or what exactly is your plan?

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Hello,

First of all, excellent work!

I want to change the status of teams (from level 9 to level 6 inclusive) from semi-professional to amateur and other minor club data.

When I make the change in the pre-game editor, I can't verify the rules. Do you have a solution for bypassing the verification?

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5 hours ago, MichielVM said:

Well, I did not 'create' the teams, they exist in real life, but I did create this file. Would you like to use the file for a personal project or what exactly is your plan?

I would like to use the data you created in this file as input for the project I am working. I am likely ending up with a level in my planned pyramids where the various regions don't have enough teams to finish that level. By having a number of teams I can use I would be able to do so. Basically it is for me to have less research time in an area that I am less knowledgable about. I can work out Dutch teams easily as I have the data and resources about those times. I don't have them for Belgium.

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5 hours ago, Brandon Bachelor said:

Hello,

First of all, excellent work!

I want to change the status of teams (from level 9 to level 6 inclusive) from semi-professional to amateur and other minor club data.

When I make the change in the pre-game editor, I can't verify the rules. Do you have a solution for bypassing the verification?

I'm planning on releasing an update that is somewhat more stable. Just keep an eye on this page or steam, it might be easier to verify.

My reason for making lower league teames semi-pro is that many players in the provincial division are paid for playing, but you do you.

You would also have to do some financial balancing (I'm mainly thinking of sponsor money on the country level, the lowest teams get is 70.000 a year, which would be lot for purely amateur teams).

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3 hours ago, Wolf_pd said:

I would like to use the data you created in this file as input for the project I am working. I am likely ending up with a level in my planned pyramids where the various regions don't have enough teams to finish that level. By having a number of teams I can use I would be able to do so. Basically it is for me to have less research time in an area that I am less knowledgable about. I can work out Dutch teams easily as I have the data and resources about those times. I don't have them for Belgium.

Sure, by all means, but for many of the teams my research is pretty minimal (there often is not that much to go on online, I just read club websites, news articles and wikipediapages mainly).

Could you please credit (or even link) me for my work?

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2 hours ago, MichielVM said:

Sure, by all means, but for many of the teams my research is pretty minimal (there often is not that much to go on online, I just read club websites, news articles and wikipediapages mainly).

Could you please credit (or even link) me for my work?

Of course.

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On 05/08/2023 at 12:50, Brandon Bachelor said:

Hello,

First of all, excellent work!

I want to change the status of teams (from level 9 to level 6 inclusive) from semi-professional to amateur and other minor club data.

When I make the change in the pre-game editor, I can't verify the rules. Do you have a solution for bypassing the verification?

new version is out, go ahead and try verifying again!

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16 hours ago, ImSo said:

I had a lot of fun with this mod, hope the FM24 version is still in the plans !  Good luck to you !

Thanks, haven't been able to start yet, but I've heard there are some bugs in the editor at this time, so maybe it'll all work out in the end ;)

What teams did you play?

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