Popular Post MichielVM Posted January 7 Popular Post Share Posted January 7 (edited) Logopack available on Steam Workshop: https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3142597025 A full rework of the Belgian Lower League Pyramid, containing all teams and B-teams, all competitions in the Belgian Pyramid (up to level 9 (4th provincial), including regional cups and youth leagues) with a dynamic and regional relegation and promotion system which has been streamlined and simplified, the complete Belgian Cup/Croky Cup starting from the first round, awards for all competitions, new media sources, new names for newgens, all places in Belgium and data updates to Belgium in general for more accuracy. CAUTION: USE AT YOUR OWN RISK * This is a very complex database with many moving parts, while everything is tested to the extent of my ability to do so, be aware that unexpected issues may arise that might break your save. NEW IN THIS VERSION: * Updated to 2023-2024 competitions and teams * Coordinates were added for all stadiums * Better use of data available in the base-game * Refined selection rules in national divisions to be closer to the base game * Rebalanced finances further * Further improved stability * Lots of smaller fixes and additions AUGUST 2024 UPDATE: * Changed lower leagues to be amateur instead of semi-pro * Added promotion playoffs * Added a system to automatically include new B-teams (added through a board request) from the next season reset (after its creation) on. * U21 and U18 cups now work and were greatly expanded with new cup competitions. * Improved the system for both scheduling matches and putting teams in the right division. The season should reset properly every year now. * Added trial days for free players. * Improved the pre-season period so that friendly matches are now more evenly spread in the time before the season. * Moved the youth intake day, the first intakes should happen in summer (the game starts with the highest reputation teams) * Solved an issue where an A-team and its B-team playing on the same level could be put in the same division. Teams playing in the same stadium will no longer be put in the same division of a competition. * Solved an issue with award names not showing properly. SETUP: * Put the file in this folder if you download manually (on windows): My Documents > Sports Interactive > Football Manager 2024> editor data * Use advanced setup when starting the save, make sure you have the file checked for loading. * In the advanced setup, check 'add players to playable teams' to fill the new lower league teams. * The game MUST be played with the lowest possible Belgian Division (Vierde Provinciale/Quatrième Provinciale (BEL)) playable for everything to work properly. * It is advised to edit the 'loaded' players (dropdown under 'Approximate Player Count' ==> 'Advanced') and add all categories of Belgian Players. * The game will need some time to generate players for the lower league teams, after which you can play the game normally. * English as ‘data language’ is recommended. Divisions and awards get a name in their local language (Dutch or French) or in both languages, where that makes sense. RULES: The highest three division levels are more or less like in real life. Below that level, teams play two rounds (home and away) and the champion at the end is promoted. Only on the fifth level (3rd division), two of four divisions have two promoted teams instead. The system is set up as such that teams will be grouped by region automatically each season, the system will also relegate more or less teams per region depending on the number of teams from that region that are relegated from the divisions above. This means that the number of teams relegated from each division can fluctuate, all teams in the relegation zone are thus at risk of relegation. Each province has a regional cup, teams that get far enough in these regional cups, qualify for the national cup (Croky Cup) in the next season. As of now, the composition of the lower provincial levels is dynamic, when setting up the game for the first time, different teams will play in series A, B, C… of the same province every time. Sometimes B-teams get force-relegated as their A-team is relegated from a level above. In some scenario’s the dynamic relegation does not account for this properly. To compensate for this, an extra team from the same province from the level below will be added to the division, to keep everything stable and in working order. When the system gets into trouble, it will correct itself by moving teams as necessary. The choice has been made to make all teams semi-professional, as many players that play on the provincial level in real life, do not play for free either. On the one hand, players with a history in the higher national levels or players that are not fully convinced to join a low reputation team, will ask for a fairly high wage that is often a large cost for teams in the lower levels. On the other hand, your own youth players and other lower reputation players will often be content with a non-paid amateur contract or at least a more acceptable wage. This is by design, signing players of a somewhat higher reputation is an option that is supposed to open up as you climb the leagues. In the lowest divisions, you’ll have to get clever with your contracts! ISSUES: Some compromises between gameplay and realism are necessary to make this database possible (and fun!). If you do encounter an issue, let me know, I’ll see if I can do anything with it for potential future updates. * For most new competitions, no honours/trophies are registered for the winning team. The teams are however considered to have won the competition. * Creating a large number of B-teams in the same region might cause issues. CREDITS: By Chielen Many thanks to Krlenjuska, Endrieq, D.B. and Ryan VERSION HISTORY: * 7/1/2024: Release FM24-version * 11/1/2024: Update substitution rules to better reflect real life rules (5 from 9 in top two levels, 5 from 7 on third level, 4 from 4 in all lower levels), minor fixes * 14/8/2024: Big update * 14/8/2024: Hotfix * 16/8/2024: Fixed an issue with restrictions on B-team promotions and a rare occurrence of a bug that could cause competitions to not be reset FM24 Chielen's Total Belgian Lower League Overhaul.fmf Edited August 16 by MichielVM hotfix 10 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ianvou Posted January 7 Share Posted January 7 Personally I always welcome lower league databases! Well done my friend! 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichielVM Posted January 7 Author Share Posted January 7 Thank you! It's a complex one, but I'm happy with the result. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
valdeOLENCOOL Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 Relegation and promotion seems interesting. Will give it a test to see if it's what I'm looking for to try and make a database. And if yes is it possible to learn more about how you set it up in the editor? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichielVM Posted January 8 Author Share Posted January 8 3 hours ago, valdeOLENCOOL said: Relegation and promotion seems interesting. Will give it a test to see if it's what I'm looking for to try and make a database. And if yes is it possible to learn more about how you set it up in the editor? You're free to look through the file. The system got really complicated though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toin Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 Thank you very much for your work! To what extent does it fix the finance problems in especially the lower leagues? Clubs tend to go consistently lose loads of money in the original database. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OlivierL Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 i did a test untill 2033 and everything seems fine. The only thing that looks different is the way the B teams work, they work as affiliates ? great job btw ! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichielVM Posted January 9 Author Share Posted January 9 2 minutes ago, OlivierL said: i did a test untill 2033 and everything seems fine. The only thing that looks different is the way the B teams work, they work as affiliates ? great job btw ! Yeah, they are affiliates, there is a special type of affiliate-connection for B-teams which the game recognises. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichielVM Posted January 11 Author Share Posted January 11 On 09/01/2024 at 22:17, Toin said: Thank you very much for your work! To what extent does it fix the finance problems in especially the lower leagues? Clubs tend to go consistently lose loads of money in the original database. I did tweak finances, it should definitely be better than the original database. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichielVM Posted January 19 Author Share Posted January 19 (edited) I created a logopack specifically for this file: https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3142597025 Thank you to @burakcakilfor his help! Edited January 19 by MichielVM 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
maertens.eric Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 Hello and thank you for your work! I have a question : is your database compatible with the one of Daveincid ’increase realism’ ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichielVM Posted February 2 Author Share Posted February 2 I don't know, but you're free to test it out though! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ImSo Posted February 6 Share Posted February 6 Thanks a lot ! Time to start a new save Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Bachelor Posted February 21 Share Posted February 21 Le 19/01/2024 à 09:33, MichielVM a dit : I created a logopack specifically for this file: https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3142597025 Thank you to @burakcakilfor his help! Hello, First thanks for your great work. Is it possible for Gamepass player to have acces to the logopack ? Thanks you Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichielVM Posted February 22 Author Share Posted February 22 On 21/02/2024 at 12:34, Brandon Bachelor said: Hello, First thanks for your great work. Is it possible for Gamepass player to have acces to the logopack ? Thanks you I'll send you a wetransfer link in personal message. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
enes271905 Posted March 23 Share Posted March 23 Hey, could you send the logopack to me as well? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gaucharro Posted March 28 Share Posted March 28 En 22/2/2024 a las 14:52, MichielVM dijo: I'll send you a wetransfer link in personal message. Good evening! Would you be so kind as to send me a link to the logopack as well? Thanks in advance! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nehoc Posted March 28 Share Posted March 28 Hi Michiel, I just tested your update. Very nice job. Just a quick question. Do you think it is possible to remove the rule regarding the minimum wage (€1000)? This rule only applies to Belgian players and staff who sign a part-time contract in a semi-pro club. Regarding foreign players, you can offer any salary. Thank you for your answer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichielVM Posted March 28 Author Share Posted March 28 9 hours ago, Nehoc said: Hi Michiel, I just tested your update. Very nice job. Just a quick question. Do you think it is possible to remove the rule regarding the minimum wage (€1000)? This rule only applies to Belgian players and staff who sign a part-time contract in a semi-pro club. Regarding foreign players, you can offer any salary. Thank you for your answer. I would sure like to, but I'm still not sure how to edit the specifics for wages. I kinda stumbled through that part untill it worked well enough for the database. Where exactly can you find this rule ingame? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichielVM Posted March 28 Author Share Posted March 28 13 hours ago, gaucharro said: Good evening! Would you be so kind as to send me a link to the logopack as well? Thanks in advance! No problem, I'll send it to you as well! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
enes271905 Posted March 29 Share Posted March 29 22 hours ago, MichielVM said: No problem, I'll send it to you as well! Hey Michiel, is there a chance you could send it to me as well please? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichielVM Posted March 29 Author Share Posted March 29 1 minute ago, enes271905 said: Hey Michiel, is there a chance you could send it to me as well please? Here, this should still work for a few days at least: https://we.tl/t-X6ln5oUMY5 Just put it in the graphics folder. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
enes271905 Posted March 29 Share Posted March 29 Thank you very much Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oche balboa Posted March 31 Share Posted March 31 Hi, Will this be updated? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gaucharro Posted April 10 Share Posted April 10 @MichielVM Good evening! I have tested your db file in the editor (just updated) to see if it worked with the new update, and it does. Just for you and everyone reading to know. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fwiedwice Posted April 10 Share Posted April 10 I have a question on the database. Let said I only want to go down to tier 4 or 5. Using all the way down to tier 9 make the game lag a bit for me. What do I need to remove in the pre game editor to only have up to those tier? Thanks Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichielVM Posted April 11 Author Share Posted April 11 10 hours ago, Fwiedwice said: I have a question on the database. Let said I only want to go down to tier 4 or 5. Using all the way down to tier 9 make the game lag a bit for me. What do I need to remove in the pre game editor to only have up to those tier? Thanks I guess you would have to delete the competitions below that level and make sure no teams are relegated from level 4 or 5 anymore. It's not really in the scope of my project, so I don't know the details of what you would have to do. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichielVM Posted April 11 Author Share Posted April 11 On 10/04/2024 at 03:50, gaucharro said: @MichielVM Good evening! I have tested your db file in the editor (just updated) to see if it worked with the new update, and it does. Just for you and everyone reading to know. I will still have to test finances, because I was notified there has been a change form Belgium. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichielVM Posted April 11 Author Share Posted April 11 I have been made aware of an error that prevents the creation of match fixtures in the early 2030's, I am still looking into this issue. You can holiday past this season, but you use this version of the database at your own risk. Sorry about this, people! Any input about this issues is welcome 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
janis Posted April 14 Share Posted April 14 On 11/04/2024 at 10:21, MichielVM said: I have been made aware of an error that prevents the creation of match fixtures in the early 2030's, I am still looking into this issue. You can holiday past this season, but you use this version of the database at your own risk. Sorry about this, people! Any input about this issues is welcome Is it only one season that doesn't sim? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichielVM Posted April 14 Author Share Posted April 14 4 minutes ago, janis said: Is it only one season that doesn't sim? As far as I know, but I think it might be a recurring thing each X years. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
runedevisch Posted April 16 Share Posted April 16 Did you delete he file? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichielVM Posted May 3 Author Share Posted May 3 Small update: I've been working on the database (in the meanwhile I set it to 'hidden' on the Steam Workshop), but I'm taking the time to implement some other requested features and some improvements I have been wanting to add for a while. I've also been taking a look at some known issues, while I'm at it. It will be some time before I'll be able to release an update, some things just take a long time to set up and test, but I am working on it and it should be better than ever when I release it! In the meantime: is anyone here knowledgeable about Belgian finances in the game or can anyone help me test some files in-game (I need to simulate to about 2040 for testing and that takes quite a while!) 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedBear97 Posted May 6 Share Posted May 6 On 03/05/2024 at 10:59, MichielVM said: Small update: I've been working on the database (in the meanwhile I set it to 'hidden' on the Steam Workshop), but I'm taking the time to implement some other requested features and some improvements I have been wanting to add for a while. I've also been taking a look at some known issues, while I'm at it. It will be some time before I'll be able to release an update, some things just take a long time to set up and test, but I am working on it and it should be better than ever when I release it! In the meantime: is anyone here knowledgeable about Belgian finances in the game or can anyone help me test some files in-game (I need to simulate to about 2040 for testing and that takes quite a while!) Hey Michiel, I want to play this database but I see it's hidden for the moment. Is there a way for me to get access? I can help with testing if you want. I play almost daily. You can add me on Steam if you want. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichielVM Posted May 6 Author Share Posted May 6 You can download the old version here on the forum. I left it up here. I'll let you know when I need testing! 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MRLF1982 Posted May 14 Share Posted May 14 Hi Michiel, the link for the old version is no longer working. Quite interested to see how you did it. Did the guys from Sporting Hasselt use your DB? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crosa8 Posted May 24 Share Posted May 24 Hi Michiel Would it be possible to make sure that in the play-off system the points are not halved? That would be great cause i hate it so much Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crosa8 Posted May 24 Share Posted May 24 Or can u tell me how to fix it? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lolo685 Posted May 28 Share Posted May 28 Is this the real system? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SDke Posted May 29 Share Posted May 29 On 24/05/2024 at 16:25, Crosa8 said: Or can u tell me how to fix it? you can't that. it's hard coded in the game Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
anseeuwdries Posted July 3 Share Posted July 3 Hey michiel, bedankt voor je database. Tijdens ziekenhuisopnames met dosko beveren kunnen spelen, ik ben benieuwd. Ik ben zelf afkomstig van Roeselare maar heb geen binding met deze ploeg meer na de vele 'veranderingen'. Wie weet geraak ik nog bij de nationale ploeg en kan eindelijk eens een ploeg laten spelen zoals ze ervoor dienen ;) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
UGG106 Posted July 18 Share Posted July 18 Hey Michiel, Ik was een paar maandjes geleden voor de eerste keer je database tegen gekomen op een reddit, maar toen was die al offline gezet op steam. Vandaag heb ik hem hier gevonden, maar in het forum is ook de oude versie niet meer te downloaden. Is er toch nog een manier om deze te krijgen? Zou hem heel graag spelen. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichielVM Posted August 14 Author Share Posted August 14 On 18/07/2024 at 17:20, UGG106 said: Hey Michiel, Ik was een paar maandjes geleden voor de eerste keer je database tegen gekomen op een reddit, maar toen was die al offline gezet op steam. Vandaag heb ik hem hier gevonden, maar in het forum is ook de oude versie niet meer te downloaden. Is er toch nog een manier om deze te krijgen? Zou hem heel graag spelen. Ik was niet tevreden van de oude versie dus die heb ik offline gehaald. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichielVM Posted August 14 Author Share Posted August 14 I released a large update, patch notes are in the top post. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gaucharro Posted August 15 Share Posted August 15 hace 12 horas, MichielVM dijo: I released a large update, patch notes are in the top post. Good to hear from you! Thanks for this new update and the hotfix as well! Question: has the logopack been updated as well? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichielVM Posted August 15 Author Share Posted August 15 Yes, I updated it yesterday evening! 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BelgianGuy72 Posted August 15 Share Posted August 15 Bedankt voor de database. Gewoon een vraagje: waarom is engels als 'data language' aanbevolen? Kan er een probleem optreden als ik nederlands kies? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichielVM Posted August 15 Author Share Posted August 15 8 hours ago, BelgianGuy72 said: Bedankt voor de database. Gewoon een vraagje: waarom is engels als 'data language' aanbevolen? Kan er een probleem optreden als ik nederlands kies? Nee, maar ik heb enkel de Engelse benamingen aangepast, dus je krijgt een mix tussen de termen van de originele database en de Engelse termen van wat ik heb toegevoegd als je Nederlands (of Frans) kiest. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gaucharro Posted August 16 Share Posted August 16 En 15/8/2024 a las 2:40, MichielVM dijo: Yes, I updated it yesterday evening! Great! Could I have a link to download it again, as I have Gamepass, not Steam 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Svenpunt Posted August 16 Share Posted August 16 Ik heb wel het gevoel dat het spel redelijk traag vooruitgaat met de nieuwste update. Is er iets dat ik zelf kan aanpassen? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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