Game 1: Germany vs Scotland from the Fußball Arena München, LIVE on ITV1 kick off 8pm

[Gizmo7]

Oh, Scotland.

[Orzelek]

Nice penalty by Havertz

[martinji]

1 minute ago, Darius1998 said:

Looks worse with every replay.

Yes, I didn't even see the left foot the first time as I was only watching the right. Definitely a pen and red.

[HOORAY HENRIK]

Put Gundogan in my fantasy team for a penalty taker haha can’t even get that bit of joy

[cafcrocky]

Goal difference could be all important in the race for third place qualifiers too

[SteveUK]

Nice Kai

[GunmaN1905]

Can someone explain to me when did the rule of penalty takers not being allowed to make a full stop change?

These run-ups are beyond ridiculous.

[phnompenhandy]

The lesser-spotted three-footed challenge there. Getting embarrassing now.

[Robson 07]

That's another goal that wee Jimmy Krankie has to pick out of his net. 

[Harryseaess]

Such an awful challenge. Looked awful in real time too, amazing the ref didn't give a red straight away.

[sc91]

Just now, cafcrocky said:

Goal difference could be all important in the race for third place qualifiers too

Not sure that'll be much of Scotlands concern, might be refunds on hotels and an earlier flight home, instead.

[Gee_Simpson]

Porteous with a shocker of a challenge. I'm absolutely astonished.

[Craigus89]

Well this is pretty amusing, not going to lie.

[georginho_juventusygr]

Havertz stopped before shooting. Should have been disallowed.

[JJ72]

Just now, Harryseaess said:

Such an awful challenge. Looked awful in real time too, amazing the ref didn't give a red straight away.

There was quite a lot happening tbf

[Smaldini]

11 minutes ago, Harryseaess said:

Would have been incredible but would have to leave out Foden, Saka or Bellingham.

Not a difficult choice really, he frequently plays on the left and he’s a much better player than Foden is at international level.

[Gee_Simpson]

3 minutes ago, av3ry said:

Ryan Porteous off. Easiest point ever in the Prediction game 

He's an absolute idiot. 

[Haguey]

2 minutes ago, GunmaN1905 said:

Can someone explain to me when did the rule of penalty takers not being allowed to make a full stop change?

These run-ups are beyond ridiculous.

It's a bit silly but I guess he didn't actually *stop* just slowed down at the end a lot

[Redshift]

Man I expected a bit more than this I have to be honest. A man down and 3 behind?

[CFuller]

The biggest winning margin at the Euros is 5 goals. Germany already halfway to a new record.

[cafcrocky]

Isn’t it that only the shooting motion has to be a single continuous motion?

[sc91]

Safe to say I've been move active than Neuer in that first half, and I've not left sofa.

[SouthCoastRed]

3 minutes ago, Robson 07 said:

That's another goal that wee Jimmy Krankie has to pick out of his net. 

Wee Jimmy would be a major upgrade

[Robson 07]

Scotland setting a solid low bar early in the tourney here. 

[eenie]

Absolutely dismal performance. Such a lack of quality at the back and the tactic of sitting mega deep and hoofing it up to a lone striker has proved to be completely useless, unsurprisingly.

[Haguey]

Dour of Scotland amirite

[The Amazing Dale Watkins]

1 minute ago, georginho_juventusygr said:

Havertz stopped before shooting. Should have been disallowed.

2 minutes ago, GunmaN1905 said:

Can someone explain to me when did the rule of penalty takers not being allowed to make a full stop change?

These run-ups are beyond ridiculous.

It's almost like you haven't watched any penalties in the last few years. 

[Gizmo7]

[metal_guitarist]

Running a few mins behind now but that’s a shocking challenge from Porteous, Gundogan’s lucky not to have a broken leg. Nice of ITV to not bother showing the card being issued though. 

[JJ72]

1 minute ago, The Amazing Dale Watkins said:

It's almost like you haven't watched any penalties in the last few years. 

Almost like the rules were changed last year to prevent a stop or feint

[phnompenhandy]

Getting a player and the ball in the final third at the same time will be a challenge now.

[Gizmo7]

Completely trolling his country, what are you doing 

[GunmaN1905]

1 minute ago, The Amazing Dale Watkins said:

It's almost like you haven't watched any penalties in the last few years. 

They became more lenient towards takers over time.

But started nitpicking goalkeepers for every step off the line.

Either make it that takers aren't allowed to change run-up speed once they start moving or allow goalkeepers to step off the line in their 5m area.

This is completely unfair.

[Rob1981]

Matterface saying they should go for broke because h2h is the separator and GD doesn’t matter 

It’s only the separator between 2nd and 3rd in the group. But if you’re this bad then you’re probably looking at finishing in 3rd place in your group at best. In which case GD against the other 3rd place teams is REALLY key. Scotland better off shutting up shop and just hoping it doesn’t get any worse.

[Gee_Simpson]

3 minutes ago, eenie said:

Absolutely dismal performance. Such a lack of quality at the back and the tactic of sitting mega deep and hoofing it up to a lone striker has proved to be completely useless, unsurprisingly.

He's a dinosaur.

[Sned]

Frustrating game obviously - and annoying that Clarke got it so wrong in our setup. Germany have had all the ball anyway, but when they haven't they've just put 2 men around McGregor (who has subsequently not had a touch) and stopped us playing through the middle. Distribution from Gunn, Porteous and Hendry was so poor from the start and made it easy for them. McGinn and Christie barely touched the ball.

Actually thought Clarke made the right decision changing from the 5-4-1 to a 5-3-2 after about half an hour, but it's pointless now after the red card.

Wish we'd been braver from the start tbh.

[eenie]

Just now, Rob1981 said:

Matterface saying they should go for broke because h2h is the separator and GD doesn’t matter 

It’s only the separator between 2nd and 3rd in the group. But if you’re this bad then you’re probably looking at finishing in 3rd place in your group at best. In which case GD against the other 3rd place teams is REALLY key. Scotland better off shutting up shop and just hoping it doesn’t get any worse.

I'm not sure if you already knew this, but Matterface is a complete moron.

[Rob1981]

Just now, eenie said:

I'm not sure if you already knew this, but Matterface is a complete moron.

I definitely knew that  

[metal_guitarist]

Could be another 9-0 on the cards if Germany want it, look like they’re going to score every time they go forward 

[Redshift]

It's like they don't have a game plan for themselves or the opposition.

[Gizmo7]

Seems a long time ago since Tierney celebrated a goal kick.

 

[Astafjevs]

7 minutes ago, eenie said:

Absolutely dismal performance. Such a lack of quality at the back and the tactic of sitting mega deep and hoofing it up to a lone striker has proved to be completely useless, unsurprisingly.

He's set up to keep the score down, or nick a point with luck. For the reasons outlined above re: 3rd place. Which in theory is fine but the execution has been quite ****

[Vynal Seven]

Gundogan is so bloody lucky. That challenge looks worse every time you see it. 

[Tikka Mezzala]

Reminding myself that I hold a Czech passport. 

[Barry Cartman]

There's no way that Havertz pen should be allowed to stand, totally stops FFS

[Obi-Wan Kenobi]

I personally put this down to yet another poor showing from Paul Pogba.

[eenie]

Just now, Astafjevs said:

He's set up to keep the score down, or nick a point with luck. For the reasons outlined above re: 3rd place. Which in theory is fine but the execution has been quite ****

Yeah, but that goes out of the window as soon you as you go behind, and we've done nothing differently since they opened the scoring. Grim stuff.

[Klimowicz]

Signs you're not getting old anymore, you are old.

I found out the Euros started today just 5 minutes ago.

 

[The Amazing Dale Watkins]

30 minutes ago, enigmatic said:

 

Don't call him Wusiala, you'll only make him stronger...

It's the annoying new nickname German media has penned for Wirtz & Musiala. 

[Citizen Sandman]

Oh adverts you sad sad ****