rosslarkin Posted February 27, 2008 Author Share Posted February 27, 2008 It would make perfect sense for the ship to be Dharma, as their main objective is Ben, who overthrew Dharma in the first place. Could be an indication as to how Aaron goes back without Claire too, as I assume they would want to study Claire as she's the only woman to ever have a child on the island Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Fish Posted February 27, 2008 Share Posted February 27, 2008 Originally posted by Frankie:<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by The_Fish: I have seen nothing that indicates that the ship is Dharma. Apart from the ginger woman's flashback to discovering a polar bear fossilised skeleton with a Dharma tag? </div></BLOCKQUOTE> And? How does that make the boat Dharma? She's just a mercenary tbf. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRob Posted February 27, 2008 Share Posted February 27, 2008 Is Sayid Ben's man on the boat? True, he wasn't on it when Ben made the claim, and he may not even be on it now, but Ben may have known he was going to be on the boat... Well no, becaus the man on the boat gave him the names of all the people wgho came to the island, whilst, way before Sayid left. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRob Posted February 27, 2008 Share Posted February 27, 2008 Originally posted by rosslarkin:It would make perfect sense for the ship to be Dharma, as their main objective is Ben, who overthrew Dharma in the first place. Could be an indication as to how Aaron goes back without Claire too, as I assume they would want to study Claire as she's the only woman to ever have a child on the island They said numerous times theres no problem for people who conceive off the island, so that must have happpenned before Claire for them to know that. Infact it did with Rousseau. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frankie Posted February 27, 2008 Share Posted February 27, 2008 Originally posted by The_Fish:And? How does that make the boat Dharma? She's just a mercenary tbf. It is rather coincidental not to mention other circumstantial evidence in terms of plot-line... Of course it could be a red-herring but I think it's fair to say it's a decent possibility given Ben's alleged fear of them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Fish Posted February 27, 2008 Share Posted February 27, 2008 Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying it isn't Dharma, but we've been shown nothing that indicates the boat is Dharma. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pandaLUFC Posted February 27, 2008 Share Posted February 27, 2008 I wanna see more of Richard et al...been a few episodes in and no mention of them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hjfh Posted February 27, 2008 Share Posted February 27, 2008 Originally posted by pandaLUFC:I wanna see more of Richard et al...been a few episodes in and no mention of them. As in Richard from the Others? I think I read somewhere the actor who played him was restricted to how many episodes he was in this season as he was filming another show. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goater666 Posted February 27, 2008 Share Posted February 27, 2008 I tell you what, i would love to see a flash back of Rousseau. When the black rock crash landed and their first days on the island. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pandaLUFC Posted February 27, 2008 Share Posted February 27, 2008 Do you really believe the Black Rock crashed on the island and then ended up in the middle of the jungle? I can't see how this would be the case, as it was so big (unless smokie had something to do with it) - think it was planted there by Dharma or something, personally. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goater666 Posted February 27, 2008 Share Posted February 27, 2008 and actually where have all the "others gone"? Remember when they had that court to trial Juliet. Where did all that crew go? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goater666 Posted February 27, 2008 Share Posted February 27, 2008 Originally posted by pandaLUFC:Do you really believe the Black Rock crashed on the island and then ended up in the middle of the jungle? I can't see how this would be the case, as it was so big (unless smokie had something to do with it) - think it was planted there by Dharma or something, personally. I've always assumed it was tsunami of some sort? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hjfh Posted February 27, 2008 Share Posted February 27, 2008 I have a theory on the Black Rock. I reckon that the Island is somehow connected to the 12 areas round the world such as the Bermuda Triangle. I reckon the ship probably went through something like the triangle and landed in the area of the island it's in. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hjfh Posted February 27, 2008 Share Posted February 27, 2008 Originally posted by Goater666:and actually where have all the "others gone"? Remember when they had that court to trial Juliet. Where did all that crew go? The have gone to 'The Temple' http://www.lostpedia.com/wiki/The_Temple Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goater666 Posted February 27, 2008 Share Posted February 27, 2008 Im not going to get spoiled if i click that link am i? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hjfh Posted February 27, 2008 Share Posted February 27, 2008 Don't think so. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ishlilith Posted February 27, 2008 Share Posted February 27, 2008 Originally posted by hjfh:I have a theory on the Black Rock. I reckon that the Island is somehow connected to the 12 areas round the world such as the Bermuda Triangle. I reckon the ship probably went through something like the triangle and landed in the area of the island it's in. Nah, the island is just the back of a giant turtle. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Fish Posted February 27, 2008 Share Posted February 27, 2008 Originally posted by hjfh:<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by pandaLUFC: I wanna see more of Richard et al...been a few episodes in and no mention of them. As in Richard from the Others? I think I read somewhere the actor who played him was restricted to how many episodes he was in this season as he was filming another show. </div></BLOCKQUOTE> It got cancelled apparently \o/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBS Posted February 27, 2008 Share Posted February 27, 2008 Originally posted by Goater666:I tell you what, i would love to see a flash back of Rousseau. When the black rock crash landed and their first days on the island. They've said that there will be one at some point, always seems to 'next season' though. I'm sure that there will be one when the time is right, there is more to Danielle then meets the eye I think and having it too early would probably give secrets about the island/the others away. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willigogs Posted February 27, 2008 Share Posted February 27, 2008 Originally posted by Goater666:I tell you what, i would love to see a flash back of Rousseau. When the black rock crash landed and their first days on the island. Easy mistake to make - but the Black Rock isn't Rousseau's ship. Because she crash landed here in her ship, and then proceeds to introduce the Black Rock - people assume that was her ship, when in fact Locke said it was a slave ship from the 1800s(?). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goater666 Posted February 27, 2008 Share Posted February 27, 2008 ah yeh i think you're correct mate. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willigogs Posted February 27, 2008 Share Posted February 27, 2008 Originally posted by Goater666:ah yeh i think you're correct mate. But then with Lost you never know Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gr81 Posted February 28, 2008 Share Posted February 28, 2008 Originally posted by Willigogs:Easy mistake to make - but the Black Rock isn't Rousseau's ship. Because she crash landed here in her ship, and then proceeds to introduce the Black Rock - people assume that was her ship, when in fact Locke said it was a slave ship from the 1800s(?). But if time moves faster off the island then it COULD be hers! But i don't think it is Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Fish Posted February 28, 2008 Share Posted February 28, 2008 Originally posted by Gr81:<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Willigogs: Easy mistake to make - but the Black Rock isn't Rousseau's ship. Because she crash landed here in her ship, and then proceeds to introduce the Black Rock - people assume that was her ship, when in fact Locke said it was a slave ship from the 1800s(?). But if time moves faster off the island then it COULD be hers! But i don't think it is </div></BLOCKQUOTE> It isn't. Alex is 16. Not 160. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
smirky Posted February 28, 2008 Share Posted February 28, 2008 Do people think that Ben knows about the time differences. Could that be the reason women die, that the baby has actualy aged an extra amount of time in the womb? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBS Posted February 28, 2008 Share Posted February 28, 2008 That could be a reason I suppose, it's a theory I've seen in a few places and there is nothing to disprove it that I remember. If the baby ages in real-world time and the mother doesn't it could get too big too quickly for the mothers body to cope with. Another idea is do to with the Islands healing ability and somehow treating the Baby as a disease that its needs to cure and killing the mother and baby in the process. Neither of these explain why it only effects babies conceived off island though I don't think. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Statistical Approach Posted February 28, 2008 Share Posted February 28, 2008 Looking forward to the new episode. I very nearly read a spoiler for the new episode. Thankfully I didn't pick anything up. Seriously though some of those theories are weird. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LokedOut420 Posted February 28, 2008 Share Posted February 28, 2008 Speaking of spoilers, here is the trailer for tonight's episode. As usual, no discussion of it here please. You know where to go. *****SPOILER******** Episode 5 Trailer Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LokedOut420 Posted February 28, 2008 Share Posted February 28, 2008 ****ing hell!! Only halfway through and this is easily the best episode of the season so far. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LokedOut420 Posted February 28, 2008 Share Posted February 28, 2008 Brilliant. One of the best episodes of the entire series for me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon Comstock Posted February 28, 2008 Share Posted February 28, 2008 iirc pooped on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmr Posted February 28, 2008 Share Posted February 28, 2008 That was all kinds of awesome, best episode in the series for me as well, clears up why the time scientist was crying when he saw the news about the plane crash. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheer Class Posted February 29, 2008 Share Posted February 29, 2008 That was fb Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Fish Posted February 29, 2008 Share Posted February 29, 2008 absolutely magnificent. Possibly my favourite episode, but that could be the adrenaline. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Annihilator666 Posted February 29, 2008 Share Posted February 29, 2008 One thing I was wondering about: if time passes faster off the island, shouldn't Penny be in her 70s or something? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Fish Posted February 29, 2008 Share Posted February 29, 2008 Originally posted by Annihilator666:One thing I was wondering about: if time passes faster off the island, shouldn't Penny be in her 70s or something? It doesn't. Didn't you see the calendar on the boat? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Annihilator666 Posted February 29, 2008 Share Posted February 29, 2008 Originally posted by The_Fish:<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Annihilator666: One thing I was wondering about: if time passes faster off the island, shouldn't Penny be in her 70s or something? It doesn't. Didn't you see the calendar on the boat? </div></BLOCKQUOTE> Yea, I realised shortly after I posted. I was still thinking about Faraday mentioning the perception of time on the island might be wonky, but of course the people on the helicopter also arrived on the boat way later than they should have. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Fish Posted February 29, 2008 Share Posted February 29, 2008 Yeah I don't quite understand that tbf Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sean M Posted February 29, 2008 Share Posted February 29, 2008 It reminded me of the Desmond episodes from last season. It had a mind**** feel to it, trying to comprehend the time travel ideas. I think there was those Naomi episodes where he had flash forwards, as though he had already experienced the future. And the one where he was in the past but was always destined to do certain things. I think a key point is that they did not physically time travel. But their consciousness did. So characters like Locke may be acting because of fragments of memories/emotions experienced in the future. And the concept of destiny may be re-experiencing the events of your life for the second/third time. =----= There was also the mention of the journal being from a ship that disapeared in the 1800s and subsequently owned by Hanso. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheer Class Posted February 29, 2008 Share Posted February 29, 2008 Reminded me of the Next Generation finale Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Fish Posted February 29, 2008 Share Posted February 29, 2008 Yeah, which Widmore bought and subsequently learnt (more) about the island. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bolton1987 Posted February 29, 2008 Share Posted February 29, 2008 That was a BRILLIANT episode Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willigogs Posted February 29, 2008 Share Posted February 29, 2008 That was abloody BRILLIANT episode - and thank God! I was losing faith in the entire show after the slow start to this season again, teaser after teaser but with no answers, but FINALLY we have something to actually debate and discuss. Loved it. Mentioning the black rock, Widmore buying the log, how the time warps when coming and going to the island, Faraday's reason for crying - loads of things (even only small) finally being answered Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willigogs Posted February 29, 2008 Share Posted February 29, 2008 Teaser for next week looks good too - but then they always do Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Fish Posted February 29, 2008 Share Posted February 29, 2008 What was his reason for crying? I missed it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willigogs Posted February 29, 2008 Share Posted February 29, 2008 Originally posted by The_Fish:What was his reason for crying? I missed it. Actually that's a good point. I was getting confused thinking it was maybe confirmation that Desmond did actually crash on the island - but then Desmond wasn't on the plane. Maybe Faraday has done the experiment on himself, therefore has seen all these events happen and is getting confirmation? I have no idea now Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheer Class Posted February 29, 2008 Share Posted February 29, 2008 Surprised no one mentioned that IT IS Pennys ship...just not that they are talking to her Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willigogs Posted February 29, 2008 Share Posted February 29, 2008 Originally posted by Sheer Class:Surprised no one mentioned that IT IS Pennys ship...just not that they are talking to her Not necessarily. She did say "What Ship"? So we have 2 possibilities here: 1.) Just as Jack spoke to the freighter and the helicopter hadn't arrived - Charlie spoke to Penny BEFORE she arranged the Freighter to be launched.. 2.) She's simply ringing a phone number that resides on the freighter. Just because she's calling a number there doesn't mean it's her boat... Number 1 sounds interesting Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Fish Posted February 29, 2008 Share Posted February 29, 2008 Clearly not Penny's ship. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willigogs Posted February 29, 2008 Share Posted February 29, 2008 Oh, and something else that struck me was that the Black rock was last known to be near Madagascar. Is there a Dharma link to the Island from Madagascar, as it has cropped up a few times now? 1.) Pretty sure there was a Dharma / Hanso station based there which was cloased. and then the next two are maybes... 2.) Charlotte discovered the Polar Bear with the Dharma collar in a desert seemingly in Africa. 3.) Eko's brother flew a plane from somewhere in Africa - could he have flown into this warp? Hmmm... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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