Jamaicaman90

Has this been reviewed for the full release?

Retracting this - it looks like the game is not generating all teams into a save for nations that are not playable. The above mentioned teams appear when loading a playable save in Wales - I had only loaded the English pyramid for the save in which I pointed this out. I assume this is part of processing speed optimisations as I don't ever remember seeing this behaviour before.

No, I've been in the same boat. Clearing my chache also fixed some (not all) of the issues for a week or so in game before it all breaks again. There's something about the way these B teams are set up, how they are both a seperate affiliate team but also part of your club, that is breaking them. My uneduated guess would be a coding conflict that's trying to treat these squads as two different things at the same time that will then be inconsistent in how it appears. To prove my point, you can try playing as Ajax. Jong Ajax in the second tier are not an affiliate club in the list, do not have their own Club Info screen, and you can't manage them. Despite playing in the senior leagues they fit into your club and UI the exact same way an English u21 side would. None of the problems discussed in this thread impact them. The issue is specifically limited to squads that are listed as affiliates with their own club overview screen that are also treated by your club as one that fits within the Development Centre. All of the issues can be fixed immediately via the game's database by making all B/II teams function like Jong Ajax, at the expense of them being teams players can manage. To be able to manage them will probably require programming changes. For me, the novelty of managing a B team is absolutely not worth breaking their senior teams.

You're not the only one:

You're not the only one:

You're not the only one:

In advance of someone from SI responding to this thread, could you upload a copy of your save with it broken and name it in a reply? I'd like them to be able to see that it's not just me, it's not just one club/one country, and that it's making certain nations borderline unplayable for any players interested in long term saves.

Further information: The winners of the Cymru Premier League Development League North and South leagues then playoff for an overall competition winner: Haven't researched, the FAW Youth Leagues do not do this, and only have winners of the regional leagues.

Cymru Premier League Development League North: The New Saints Newtown Colwyn Bay Airbus UK Connah's Quay Nomads Caernarfon Town Aberystwyth Town Flint Town United Bala Town Cymru Premier League Development League South: Briton Ferry Barry Town United Haverfordwest County Llanelli Town Cambrian and Clydach Merthyr Town (from English league pyramid) Cardiff Met Uni Penypont FC Pontardawe Town Pontypridd United Carmarthen Town Here are the teams with that academy status that are competing in the Cymru Premier League Development league in the 23/24 season. Like with how the English pyramid youth system works in game, teams should be able to gain (and lose) youth level to qualify to play in these two leagues, with a maximum of 20 teams in each. Then, each season the remaining teams in tiers 1, 2 and 3 of Wales should be invited to join the FAW Youth League. They are then geographically split into the four divisions (FAW Youth League North East, FAW Youth League North West, FAW Youth League South East, FAW Youth League South West), with each league having a minimum size of 8 and maximum of 20. The depth this would add to playing in Wales would be huge particularly for long term saves as it would incentivise club growth, and long term the skeleton of the system would then be in place for future games.

FAW Reserve League South West Baglan Dragons Port Talbot Town Tefelin BGC Briton Ferry Ynysgerwyn Ammanford Cefn Cribwr Goytre United Mumbles Rangers South Gower Seven Sisters Onllwyn Pontardawe Town Morriston Town FAW Reserve League South East Risca United Lliswerry Cwmbran Celtic Blaenavon Blues Undy AFC Caldicot Town Abertillery Bluebirds Abercarn United Tredegar Town Chepstow Town Abergavenny Town Goytre AFC Treowen Stars FAW Reserve League South Central Cardiff Met Uni AFC Llwydcoed Llantwit Major Cambrian and Clydach Pontyclun FC Cardiff Draconians Trethomas Bluebirds Penydarren BGC Ynyshir Albions Canton FC FAW Reserve League Central Bow Street Llanidloes Llanuwchllyn Caersws Penrhyncoch Dolgellau AA Llandrindod Wells Builth Wells Hay St Marys FAW Reserve League North West Nantlle Vale Flint Mountain St Asaph Conwy Borough CPD Pwllheli Brickfield Rangers Llay Welfare CPD Rhos Aelwyd Llanrwst United Hawarden Rangers Llangefni Town Llangollen Town Saltney Town FAW Reserve League North East Connay's Quay Nomads Airbus UK The New Saints Llandudno Chirk AAA Denbigh Town Ruthin Town Gresford Athletic Holywell Town Mold Alexandra Porthmadog Buckey Town Here are the teams for the 23/24 FAW Reserves Leagues. Every year, each club in Tiers 1-3 should then be re-invited to take part, and then once all teams are confirmed they should be geographically split into the above six leagues, with no more than 18 and no fewer than 9 teams in each league. The depth this would add to playing in Wales would be huge particularly for long term saves, as at present there is a real problem with taking on a Welsh team where it is practically impossible to develop any players beyond the age of 19 if they are not ready for first team football. This is particularly problematic once you begin qualifying for Europe, as the reputation of your players compared to domestic rivals is too high and they will refuse to go out on loan anywhere - this solves the problem by allowing you to get minutes for your players in a reserve league like that found in pretty much every other playable nation in the game. Once the skeleton of the system is in place it will also be of enourmous benefit not just for this year's game but for all going forward.

According to the Cymru Football app (can't link unfortunately), the typical leagues are: FAW Reserve League South West FAW Reserve League South East FAW Reserve League South Central FAW Reserve League Central FAW Reserve League North West FAW Reserve League North East The two northern leagues are doing something a bit unusual this year in that rather than being NE and NW, they are North (tiers 1 & 2) and North (tier 3). This doesn't appear to be a standard thing though and I'd expect them to return to the usual format next year. Due to the number of eligible teams (i.e. tiers 1-3), the maximum total number of teams to be split between the leagues should be 108. The main focus of team distribution should be geographical, however the smallest I can see an individual league having been is 9.

Additional information: Both Cymru Premier League Development Leagues currently have between 9 and 11 teams, but the handbook doesn't specify an upper limit allowed in a season if more teams qualify to be included - I can't image they'd allow more than 20 in each league though. The same would apply with the FAW Youth Leagues, as this would then mean that between all six leagues outlined there would be capacity of 120, which would fit the 108 teams in the top three tiers.

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I just realised this may be the wrong place for this. Reposted here:

I just realised this may be the wrong place for this. Reposted here:

It's worth pointing out also that in the Netherlands, teams with B teams in the senior playable leagues (i.e. Ajaz, AZ, PSV and Utrecht) do not have this issue. The B teams (Jong Ajax for example) are fully integrated into the club in the same manner as a reserve team and are not listed as an affiliate, and they function perfectly. Therefore, if the teams in Spain for example cannot be fixed, can they not be switched over to function in the same manner as the Dutch counterparts? At least for those teams that share the kits and identity of the main team. I understand A. Bilbao C (Basconia in real life) might not fit this due to the different kit, but A. Bilbao B (Bilbao Athletic in real life), Unionistas B, Borussia Dortmund II, FC Porto B... all these development sides seem to have an obvious route to full functionality that the game currently cuts them off from because the functionality of B teams as an affiliate club just does not seem to work when trying to also include player control over said team's day to day running. Those edge cases like A. Bilbao C may need to remain as affiliates until a fix can be found, but they are in the absolute vast minority and are not worth breaking the game for so many other clubs in the meantime. Sevilla, Vigo, R. Madrid and many others have a B and C team with identical kits that would surely work fine if treated as reserve teams rather than as affiliated clubs. I don't know - it may even be the case that you would be able to have A. Bilbao C brought in as a reserve team but have a unique kit to the other squads. But a plea to the team at SI on this one - you make a great game, and I'm desperate to have a long term save in some of the countries where from my perspective it just currently is not possible without dealbreaking broken mechanics that ruin multiple aspects of the game.

Unfortunately not. I tested with B teams in playable leagues (e.g. A. Bilbao B) and it's still completely broken.

Thanks for this. Unfortunately while this bug is in effect you've just given me a list of nations to avoid putting any time into.

Further followup (because apparently I've lost my mind). I can gt the staff overview view for a B or C team to work from the main staff overview screen (by clicking the button highlighted in the first post image 'Unionistas Staff') by delegating individual training. If I keep the responsibility of individual training for the B team back, the overview breaks again. In either case, the button to post adverts for a role or speak to the board about roles for that B or C team still does not work.

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Unfortunately I can confirm that after holidaying and returning after a few months, I have once again lost the ability to manage responsibilities for all squads other than the first team with A. Bilbao. The cache deletion is only a temporary fix for some of the issues. I've uploaded a new save where the problem has returned - 'Spain Sniff Later'. Also attached in this and the next message are my current cache Football Manager 2024.part1.rarin case they help. Part 1.