Daniel.M

PS. I just tried another test on CONTROL mentality. Setup That same Man City side & tactic (except on control mentality) in FMM23 Opposition Setup a VNN side playing a 41221. First Highlight Second Highlight This happened ALL game long. I just stopped screenshotting it :-(

Quick Test - on ‘OVERLOAD’ mentality. On FMM23, latest update, new save, with Man City in a friendly. ———————————— Spoiler This shows that even on Overload mentality - the Libero rarely moves forward / ahead of your other DCs* *when your team are in possession + the ball is in the opposition half. ———————————— Setup - Center Backs Edited Man City’s three DCs to be both-footed, 20’s for mental, 15’s for technical / physical attributes. Setup - Tactic A 3412, to ensure there is LOTS of space for the Libero to move into. Plus we played against an opposition 442 - so still lots of space for the Libero to move into. Results #A Only 3 highlights (<20%) showed the Libero moving forward / in front of the other two DCs (while the team are in possession, in the opposition’s half). 2 of these 3 were from wide set pieces (throw in + wide free kick) Results #B In a huge 14 highlights (+80%) the Libero did NOT step forward / in front of our other DCs (while the team are in possession, in the opposition’s half). Note Yes the Libero does work IN YOUR HALF (the previous results were all in the opposition’s half) - I took screenshots but apparently there’s too many to upload in one post Conclusion In FMM23 - even on Overload mentality and accounting for other variables - the Libero rarely moves forward (3 times in one match) when your team are in possession + the ball is in the opposition half.

Hi Marc - yeah most of us have been testing it with more positive mentalities (control, attacking, overload) and still noticing that the Libero doesn’t move forward (in advance of normal DCs) once the ball roughly passes the half-way line. On FMM23, I tried to account for other variables That was some time ago though (1 year ago?) … let’s see if I can dig out screenshots. Most of our questions about this are from new users on FMM24.

Just as a note - the movement (or lack of) is a relatively infrequent but consistent question from new FMM players on Vibe + the Discord group. Multiple FMM players can’t understand why the Libero isn’t moving into the DMC area when their team are in possession. We typically answer that (when your team are in possession) the Libero does step forward, but only when the ball is in YOUR half, otherwise they stay next to the other DCs when the ball is in the oppositions half. When they ask ‘why?’, we shrug and answer ‘no idea’.

Hi @Marc Vaughan and the team, It eems that SI have already announced (on the websites front page) that FMM25 will be ‘returning exclusively to Netflix’ … … while the FMM25 roadmap update isn’t released yet - is this ‘Netflix exclusivity’ something SI are allowed to comment on / confirm now? Also - as some advice for your comms team / person - in the FMM25 roadmap focus, can they also share with us: (1) for the save game comparability (a huge improvement!) - which FMM versions can be played on, e.g. only from FMM24? (2) the main website stated a ‘record-breaking debut campaign’ for FMM25, which we’d expect in terms of downloads (as was free for Netflix users), but would be good to see more of this was really record breaking in terms of players who actually continued playing the game. Thanks, DanEnglish (unfortunately still playing FMM23, as don’t have & don’t want Netflix)

Just a little message to say that - whatever our feelings towards the new FMM - many of us are grateful that SI staff like @Marc Vaughan reply on these forums and give more details / explanation. It is helpful + I’ll post screenshots of those 3x Marc posts above onto Vibe + the discord, pointing those people this way.

Quick update on the sentiment from the FM Mobile & Touch Discord … as it’s been open for a day (~24 hours) now … - approx. 90 replies in one day - approx. 60% have Netflix - approx. 90% believe this is negative for the game* *of course this is based on the info available, before future SI blogs / further communications. As a comparison with the Vibe community poll: - also approx. 90 responses so far - approx 35% have Netflix access (vs 60% on discord*) - same +95% stat as before - of those with no Netflix access now, +95% wont get Netflix to get FMM24. * note there is some membership overlap between Discord + Vibe, but as this shows, not that much. Hope this helps in some way

You are likely right. Evidence - a quick poll on Vibe suggests +95% (49 of 51 so far) of engaged FMM community players who do NOT have Netflix access will not subscribe to Netflix to get FMM24. Disclaimers: - this is just a relatively simple poll. - this is only 80 responses (but in <2 days). - people may change their mind. - this has some bias. But still is helpful for understanding current sentiment.

It’s great that people are sharing their stories + views 👍 Personally I’m quite ok to wait for this blog post / Q&A / further comms. to come out. While I’m ‘disappointed’ (understatement) at what the decision seems to be, I can wait a few weeks to learn more. Again there could be very good reasons why they can not communicate this asap: maybe a key leader is on leave / ill, maybe they are deliberately waiting to assess user sentiment on this decision so far (!), maybe they are waiting for a Netflix user research study results (?), or some technical details still need to be finalized, or need a joint communications working session with the Netflix team … … like most new corporate partnerships, it’s unlikely that any SI team member (Miles may be an exception) will completely open up their feelings / thoughts on this subject, they kind of need to wait for ‘management’ to agree + launch those comms first and be a little cautious about what they say. Only they (SI) will know why there needs time before more communications - so in the meantime I’m ok to continue discussing / sharing in places like this and continue playing the existing game we all love :-) DanEnglish

Good point. If the choice is between FMM with Netflix, or no FMM, then their decision is fully understandable. There may be other rationale which is also fully understandable (guaranteed income with Netflix vs more variable income previously? Piracy?) … … but doesn’t change that I won’t be buying the upcoming game - unless Netflix do ‘free’ / no-cost accounts? Lets see.

6 months late on replying to this - but thanks for making that fix. It was MUCH easier to retrain players when you changed that text around <thumbs up> thanks!

Dear Marc V., Miles and the SI team, If FMM24 will require a Netflix subscription, then regretfully I won’t be buying this years game :-( Why? As if you don’t have a Netflix account (like me) + have no intention of getting a Netflix account (I don’t watch TV / films, as I spend my limited free time on FMM) - then that requirement is quite … er … prohibitive … to getting this year’s new game. So what? For FMM22+23, I created content (team guides, tactical analysis, etc) + help new players on the Vibe website + the FMM discord. Of course am buying the editor as well. Seems I and perhaps some others won’t be able to do that this year. Why not buy the full version? Like many CM/FM veterans, I moved onto mobile as don’t have time for the full version (kids, wife, work). Like many others - I eagerly await any news / clarifications on this, and will continue to buy FMM if it’s available as before on the Apple store (without a subscription like Netflix). I’ll keep an eye on this just in case this has been a giant misunderstanding. Thanks for you hard work on FMM over the years, and I hope this is a ‘see you later’ rather than a ‘bye-bye’. DanEnglish

Hi @Marc Vaughan - any guidance on when this tweak will be released please? Why? As I’ve got a hotly requested “Guide to IFs, IWs, Wingers”” half written up for Vibe (with in-game screenshots, Gifs, etc) … but may be better to re-write it if the tweak will be released before / by the xmas holidays … No rush - but any guidance would be helpful for the community :-) thanks.