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35 minutes ago, Os said:
I don't want to be an ass but this problem is clearly not universal.
The fact that they had to issue a hot-fix and the amount of people in this thread and others on the forum complaining of the same issue suggests its pretty wide-spread.
It's of course not going to be universal but I believe there is plenty of evidence on here and other social media to suggest its a problem.
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15 hours ago, mfjin said:
Is there really going to be no response from SI on the bug regarding player ratings? It's been weeks since the hotfix has failed to fix this major bug with a large number of the community voicing their concerns over how this is affecting their game experience. I even created an account here for the first time as an experienced FM player to voice my complaint.
Yeah I find the silence on this a little deafening. Lots of responses to other issues and threads on here but nothing regarding average ratings since the hot-fix. Think it would go along way to ease peoples concerns if they just came out and acknowledged that there is still an issue.
Personally I'm concerned they don't believe it's an issue anymore and aren't planning on fixing it. Exactly why a response would go a long way.
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9 hours ago, Weller1980 said:
This ^ Id also like to know if this is still under investigation.
Theres a lot of complaints about the issue on the general feedback thread, I also started an entirely different thread and got quite a few responses but theres been absolutely nothing from SI as far as im aware. Just baffling to me how the hot-fix hasn't really fixed it.
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Im genuinely starting to lose patience now with player ratings. I made a separate thread after the hot-fix addressing it and there were quite a few others complaining, yet no response from SI. I come into this thread and read the responses and some of the highest upvoted ones are all regarding player ratings.
At this point are SI even bothered? This issue has been raised so many times now and has only partially been addressed. Im not sure how much longer I can continue to play when my players are just averaging 6.4/6.5 despite me completely overachieving as a squad and individual players all contributing quite well.
I dont care what they say but it is game breaking for me. It completely rips the fun out of the game. Constant media questions about why I continue with certain players, the board being unhappy with the recent performances of certain players, debating selling wonderkids because they just are not developing as fast as they should because of poor performances.
It also clearly isn't my tactic as im winning lots of games and overachieving. Just not sure what more there is to say at this point. Hoping for it to be finally addressed in the next patch but for an issue as big as this should have been fixed long, long ago.
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Glad to see others are still having an issue. Like I said, the hot-fix managed to sort out the fullback ratings but now my central midfielders and even at times my central defenders are just poor. Hoping it is still under investigation and they dont think they've completely fixed it with the last patch.
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This was a huge topic pre-hotfix and whilst average ratings have been improved and are no longer absolutely terrible, is anyone still noting issues with them? Im especially having problems with my central midfielders who, despite the rest of my team performing pretty well, just perform terribly.
It's not as if my central midfielders are performing poorly either, both getting assists and a few goals and playing in a team playing well.
I was just wondering if anybody else is still experiencing these issues?
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Player ratings are still slightly broken in my opinion. They are far better since the hotfix but I still find certain positions / players consistently getting low ratings. This is especially happening with my DLP. No matter who I play there or how well my team plays, my DLP just doesnt seem to get a good rating. Even if he runs the show and comes out with an assist, the rating just doesnt reflect it.
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7 minutes ago, TheGrimWombat said:
Have you updated the game? Check for updates as soon as mine updated it was back to normal
Yeah its updated, exited and restarted steam to make sure and then checked the game details and it all says up to date. Just wondering if its my actual game that is bugged or something?
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I really dont know what it is happening to my game. Winning 3-0, 4-1, 2-0 and yet still consistently getting 6.5, 6.6 ratings, im really not sure what to do at this moment.
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10 minutes ago, damjanovski said:
It depends. If your strikers were not involved in the goals then it is possible. For me personally playing Serie A with Napoli I imidiately noticed the difference with the hotfix. The players now have better ratings then before and also more accurate.
I meant my strikers were the ones above a 6.6 as they were involved in the goals, everybody else in the team, even those with assists, got terrible ratings. Started a new save and immediately saw an improvement in player ratings so not sure whats going on really.
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4-1 win and then a 3-0 win back to back and yet in both games most of my team bar the strikers are averaging a 6.6?? How does this make sense? This has never happened on a previous FM, winning by these scores would result in the entire team having at least a 7.1.
Starting to think my save is just bugged at this point, considering starting a fresh one and seeing what happens with that.
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Anyone still having issues with average ratings? Played 5 games, won 4 and drew the other yet my fullbacks and central midfielders have an average rating of 6.6, despite them playing well?
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1 hour ago, Dagenham_Dave said:
530 hours gameplay, and I'm still only halfway through season 5.
Swing and a miss, lad.
The game's not perfect, no game is. But in its current state, it's perfectly playable. There is literally nothing that has caused me any grief to the extent where I want to stop playing. I do feel sorry for people like you who can't enjoy something unless it's been specifically designed to cater for you and you alone.
"Unless it's been specifically designed to cater for you and you alone" But it's not just him though? Go through the multiple posts about low player ratings and you'll see a large majority of people there have the issue. Watch videos from some of the biggest FM content creators and they're having the same issue.
It's good that the game is perfectly playable for you but people play it differently and some of the issues that are in the game right now effectively make it unplayable for some even if it's fine for others like you. I think a lot of people are annoyed simply because the game seemed in top shape before the latest patch. For me it was one of the best FMs I had played but as soon as the latest patch was released, it all went wrong.
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3 hours ago, hdoubleh_2 said:
With respect Neil, you can't blame people for being concerned about how serious SI is taking this issue from your response to the thread on Friday.
Bang on. The response on Friday was quite dismissive of the issue and was adamant that low ratings affected minimal things in the game which is clearly not true. We all respect how much work the devs have put into the game especially during COVID and dont expect things to be fixed instantly over the Christmas and New Years holidays but to put out a patch just before Christmas that essentially breaks the game and then be dismissive of the fact just seems unprofessional.
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3 hours ago, pejocho said:
It makes the game unplayable for me. As the example of the other user, it's not only about defenders, it's about all players, and the issue can't be only the key tackles.
I absolutely agree. Whilst fullbacks are the biggest issue with it, im also finding that my central midfielders are being affected quite a lot as well. Both averaging a 6.8 when realistically according to their goal contributions and the teams performance, they should be a 7.3 minimum.
The way SI have dealt with this is somewhat of a joke. It is under review but bar that there has been little information of acknowledgment of the issue and when it is acknowledged on this forum, were told its not that big of a deal. Im hoping the fact that the bigger content creators on YouTube and Twitch have pointed this out means that it gets fixed sooner rather than later.
I completely understand that its been the Christmas period and SI staff deserve time off after such a hard year in which they have managed to produce (apart from the average ratings issue) a very good game but it would just be nice to have some sort of communication.
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15 hours ago, Zilla Blitz said:
Are performance ratings connected to morale? I've got a new save I started and even though we've won half the time (in line with expectations) our ratings are god-awful compared to our performance and our player morale is in the doghouse. And that extends in turn to the board's evaluation, as they're not happy that team morale is so low.
I believe poor ratings can affect morale. Its especially obvious when you're in a press conference and are asked why you continue to play a player who has a very poor average rating, despite them in reality performing well. The board also get unhappy when a player is in a bad vein of form, which is easy when the average ratings are broke and therefore bring your evaluation down.
My LB has 3 goals and 11 assists yet the board are unhappy with his performances?? It just doesnt make sense which is why it needs fixing ASAP. It affects a large portion of the game.
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3 hours ago, DarJ said:
I don't get why people like to complain about everything and don't get me wrong if something isn't working how it should then we should by all means report it with evidence, the more people that do this the more they are forced to find a solution but saying the game is unplayable because your players are getting 6.1 instead of a 6.7 or because the game doesn't record key tackles is a bit ridiculous.
If you're worried that players not having high average ratings influence how much they are valued at then you should keep in mind that it affects the AI too and players values is not calculated just based on average ratings.
Personally I've not noticed it that much. The only time I see my players get low ratings is when they had nothing to do all game
Because a fullback with 4 goals and 12 assists playing in a team that was predicted to finish mid-table but is instead in the top 2 with the best defence in the league shouldn't have an average rating of 6.7. It massively affects the players morale when you're constantly questioned in the media as to why you continue to play said player despite his clearly impressive goal contributions.
It also damages a players development. A lot of FM players love to buy a youngster and develop them or buy a player on the cheap and then improve and sell them for profit, but this is made much harder by the fact that the average ratings decreasing the rate of player development.
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On 01/01/2021 at 20:33, Neil Brock said:
As has been said in the other thread the issue is currently under review with our QA team and is being investigated. We're aware that defenders average ratings appear lower than they should be currently, but average ratings only have some affect on player transfer interest and value, so will not drastically affect how the gameworld plays out.
Thanks.
I'm sorry Neil but this just simply isn't true is it? Last year on FM20, I had a player who at the start of the season was worth 2m, and by all means was a bang average player for the championship, never mind the premier league where I was playing. But after a superb season of a 7.5 average rating and 15+ assists, Manchester United offered 35m for him which I gladly snapped their hand off for. Checked his CA and PA just out of interest to see if there was something more that would make him worth so much more than his value and his CA was 125 and his PA was 132. His 7.5 average rating clear boosted his value and interest.
There is no way that same player would sell for so much more than his value if his average rating was a 6.8. I understand where you're coming from that it only has some affect on the player value but its enough to affect the long-term economics of a saved game.
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Im hoping there is a fix for the average ratings issue ASAP, quickly making the game far too unplayable for me. Central midfielders and fullbacks consistently getting 6.5 and under despite winning games by 3/4 goals and having only lost 2 games so far in January just doesnt seem to make any sense.
This has only become an issue since the latest patch, before that the average ratings were fine and suddenly they just seem so off. Its a major aspect of gameplay seen as it effects player value, development, media and board confidence. Winning 10 games in a row only to be criticised by the media and board because of a player with 6 assists in 12 games has an average rating of 6.6 doesnt quite seem fair to me.
Bar that the game is brilliant for me, just wish there was some sort of acknowledgment by SI in regards to the average rating issue seen as im seeing it reported more and more.
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Low Player Ratings After Update
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Exactly the issue. I said this in the general feedback thread that if we just got some sort of feedback from SI that it is still being investigated it would stop a lot of the complaining IMO. Plenty of mods are active on the forums responding to other issues but nothing on the ratings.