[442DM trouble]

4 hours ago, Experienced Defender said:

 

You should first improve your basic tactic. And while doing that, you also need to bear in mind that you are managing a top team like Bayern.  

Once you strike the right balance between attacking penetration and defensive solidity, you'll have a good primary tactic. Which will make any occasional tweaking far easier. 

In case you are interested, I can give you some more specific ideas on how you could set up a tactic for a team like Bayern and then explain the reasoning behind. 

Please do.

[442DM trouble]

Hello, I'm having trouble breaking down 442 formations where they use 2 DM as in the attached screenshot. My current tactic is the other one.

Should I have LOE, and or lower DL, or should I try and push them through their own net?

Help is greatly appreciated.

[M'Bappe-how much is too much?]

2 minutes ago, Welshace said:

Never worth it for me.. but it depends on how you like to play... i'd prefer to pick up someone like cherki and train him to be even better than m'bappe but there is only one m'bappe, so maybe it's worth getting him in?

How can you make him better than M'Bappe, they have a set potential, right? I think M'bappes' potential is a bit higher than Cerkis'

[M'Bappe-how much is too much?]

Just now, V3ntricity said:

probably worth it if you can affort his wages. he is the best player in the game. But wages is very important to control. 

I currently have 1,9 mill to go on my wage budget, sold Pogba and Lindelöf too Barca for 253 mill., so a lot of wages left with them.

[M'Bappe-how much is too much?]

I'm in my 4th season with Man United and I have bucket loads in my transfer budget, 433 million £ to be precise. Is it worth splashing out 180mill. pluss to secure his signature?

The deal also includes Martial going the other way, so there's a lot of money involved. He also expects 325-450 000 £ a week....

[FM20 Tactics by TFF]

How important is it that you use the wingers as corner takers, is it a strucurtal reason?

I have players with 17 and more in other positions I'd like to use.

[Penalty training]

18 hours ago, gibson147 said:

I suppose you could say practising penalties will help with technique and taking of the penalty itself. Actually taking a penalty in a game would be different and dependent on the situation how a player is predisposed to handling pressure. So increasing composure would depend more around some other training sessions focused more on mental improvement and maybe improving over time as a player just naturally develops.

Valid point.

[Play out of defence and ballplaying defenders]

52 minutes ago, Rashidi said:

He is probably not good enough to play the ball out of defence. I have ball playing defenders who bring the ball all the way to the flanks and get assists, because these players can dribble, have good first touch, passing decisions and vision. So if have a poor player then you could have some issues like aimless hoofs

 

Would you consider Ruben Diaz and Declan Rice as good enough?

[Play out of defence and ballplaying defenders]

Is there a contradiction in using team instruction "play out of defence" and using ballplaying defenders at the same time? I see a tendencies of "ball hoofing" from the back. Should I change them to CD?

[Penalty training]

36 minutes ago, Finners said:

 

I mean, probably, but that would make it a slightly overpowered training focus. 

You gotta remember this is a computer game and that all games designers are trying to balance realism with actual gameplay. 

Well, I fell at least composure should be part of it, but I'm sure they have an explanation for it.

[Penalty training]

I might have missed something, but when you put a player on individual penalty training, it seems he's trained in penalties and technique, shouldn't composure be in there as well, and maybe finishing?

[Striker on throw ins]

2 minutes ago, Pasonen said:

Yes at least if you got 2 or more strikers. If i got tall player on the left side and smaller on the right i know theres no point using mixed throws on the left side because tall st comes short and small is in goal area. 

Ok, I play with one striker, and even if I tell him to lurk on the far post he comes short. I find that annoying at best.

[Striker on throw ins]

On 30/12/2019 at 20:33, Pasonen said:

You need to put long throws that set piece positions work. Otherwise throws use teams formation in throws.  Dont know why its like this but thats the way it is.

So ypu are saying the striker is coming short unless I choose long throws? Seems odd.

[Goalkeeper worth cheking]

Wuilker Fariñez, national goalkeeper of Venezueal, has turned out to be a top quality back up on my Manchester United save. He has random PA, so he won't turn out this good consistently, but some saves he is a beast that can play for any top club.

Any how, worth checking, I bet if he had played more matches he would have had much higher stats, but I'm happy with buying him for 2.1 mill £ as he's now worth 28,5 mill £.

On my save I have Argentinian and Brazilian leagues loaded, but he seems to turn without them as well.

[Striker on throw ins]

Why is it always the striker that comes short on throw ins? I have put my striker in all thinkable positions, yet he comes short when my team has a throw in on the opositions half. I can't see the logic, anyone know why? All I know is; I don't want him there.

[FM20 Staff in other roles then their natural role]

Though it seems it's been blocked by him not willing to try that role.

[FM20 Staff in other roles then their natural role]

Hi, I was wondering what consequences it would have to hire a Loan Manager as Assistan Manager if he is not natural in the Assistan Manager role?

He has in my view perfect attributes and tactical preferences that match my tactics. Is it like players, can they adapt to new roles?

[Struggling]

30 minutes ago, Experienced Defender said:

PFat*

IFsu                                          Wat

DLPsu        MEZsu

DMde

WBsu     CDde    BPDde     IWBsu/de***

GKde**

* I would play Rashford as the striker (PFat), and Martial in AML (IFsu)

** The keeper would be ideally played as a SK on support, but de Gea unfortunately lacks the proper set of attributes (hence standard GK)

*** If RB (Bissaka) is played as an IWB on defend, then you can consider the Overlap right TI (otherwise not)

Positive mentality

In possession - shorter passing and play out of defence (other possible TIs/tweaks - be more expressive, higher tempo)

In transition - counter

Out of possession - higher DL, standard LOE, offside trap (and nothing more)

Plus split block (the striker, AMR, AML and MEZ - close down more PI)

From my knowledge of Man Utd current squad (and your starting 11 in particular), this is a setup I believe would suit them well.

Any questions?

 

Thank you. I'll check out your tips.

[Struggling]

7 minutes ago, Experienced Defender said:

 

Honestly, a lot in your tactic is wrong IMHO. 

First, the setup of roles and (especially) duties is very unbalanced. The bottom half of the team are left on their own when defending, whereas the top half are likewise left on their own when attacking. The team looks totally disjointed. It's not how tactics - and the game of football - works. One positive though is that you at least are not one-dimensional.

Then, your defensive instructions are more aggressive than it's necessary/optimal. Just as putting too many attack duties up front absolutely does not mean good attacking performance and/or scoring goals, so too an overly aggressive manner of defending does not make your defense stable and solid. In fact, more often than not - the opposite is true. To be precise - neither more urgent pressing nor tight marking is a good idea in a tactic like yours, so my suggestion is - remove them both. You already have both DL and LOE set to higher, plus playing on a high mentality (positive), so making it even more aggressive only means adding unnecessary risk.

Also, do not use offside trap when you play CBs on different duties. Either play both on defend duty or remove the Offside trap instruction.

When it comes to your in-possession instructions, nothing looks particularly wrong, but I would nevertheless suggest you start with fewer and then gradually add more (or remove some) if needed. In other words, start with short passing and PoD only, then watch the match carefully and see if a bit higher tempo may be a good idea; or maybe be more expressive; or slightly wider/narrower width... try different combinations until you are pleased with what you see. 

In transition, I would remove all 3 instructions and add the Counter instead (you have very fast attacking players, so why not utilize that?). Dropping the LOE a notch (from higher to standard) in combination with a split block could also be of help in that regard. 

But before all that - make your setup of roles and duties more balanced and stable. If you would like to know how I would set it up, you are welcome 

"If you would like to know how I would set it up, you are welcome "- Yes, please.

[Struggling]

54 minutes ago, frukox said:

Who do you want to be the scorers and assist makers in the team because I can’t see any striking movement between players? What kind of style do you prefer?

I was primarily hoping for the three upfront and the mezzala to score the goals. I have changed the advanced forward to DLF (a), thought he might get to far ahead of the others. I like fast attacks, but not "gung-ho"-style.

[Struggling]

1 hour ago, FMunderachiever said:

Id look to drop the line of engagement and defensive line back to normal to give your forward three space to run into, and then I would take off the work ball into box instruction.

Id generally look to be less of a high press team, and utilise the pace you have up front.

Look at the Man City v Man Utd game at the weekend, United were battering city in transition and I think this is the way forward for you, until teams begin to sit off you more.

in terms of midfield balance, I think id flip Pogba and Fred around, but then give Fred more of a central midfield role than playmaking role. Pogba is ideal for a mezzala role and should get you lots of goals, Fred more of a "break things up" role IMO

 

 

 

Thx for the input, testing now.

[Struggling]

Hello, I would like if someone had the time to take a look at the attached tactics and match stats. I struggle to score goals. I have no player instructions, just the ones the player role dictates.

Thankfull for any constructive feedback to what's right and what's wrong with my set up.
 

[Shouts that never work]

I've found 3 shouts I can use to a positive effect...3.

My team is trailing by a goal away with 1 man sent off, I use the shout "encourage", and half the team is frustrated by that shout !? I thought encouragement was good when you're having  a hard time? Who makes up these reactions, and is there a decent guide or are they not worth it?

[Motivation]

So...why would I let  my asss-man do my halftime team talk? He says (with 15 in motivation); encourage and the whole team goes red....why is there an option to let your ass man do the team talk?

[Football Manager 2020 Pre-Release Beta *Official* Feedback Thread]

No matter what role you or tactics you choose for your defenders, they always seem to head the ball to the opponent palyers when they have the option to head it to ta team mate, let it go and leave it to the keeper or head it out for a throw, Anyone else experienced this? It feels like it happens in almost every game.