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Mine started at 96mb and after just 4 months (in game) it's risen to 213mb. How big do save game files get?

I agree with you that pressing in game is not reflective of pressing in real life but then the engine generally does a poor job of representing real football. Hopefully that will be fixed next year. I can't argue with your stats either but that is not my argument. When you use gegenpress or any of the combination of instructions that make it OP then whether it is pressing correctly or reflecting correctly in the stats it IS giving you an advantage over the AI. For whatever reason the AI does not cope well with it and we are seeing people on here and YouTubers etc all able to adopt these tactics and dominate their game no matter what team they play.

When you say not pressing effectively I disagree. I think it's more a match engine or more precisely a match animation issue. When gegenpress is in effect you see players closing down more than they would with other systems but not as you would in real life. I believe if the animation engine was better it would show the players jockeying. It cannot be argued that pressing is OP and anyone who uses it has an advantage over the AI.

That's where I went wrong. Just been sacked in my Hereford game after just 4 months in charge. I rigidly stuck to basic player roles on the belief that these players could not carry out more advanced instructions. It also didn't help that i refused to play any form of pressing as I have become overzealous in my hatred of the meta gegenpress tactic.

I do feel on most instances of complaints on this board it is more the player than the game. Well done for sorting it out 👍 Ps that's not too say this game hasn't got some genuine issues.

I avoid using them as well.

You won't want to hear this but it will be down to you and your tactics. The good news is is it is fixable. You just need to figure through looking at statistics through the data hub through your players qualities etc etc what you are good at and what you are not good at.

@Cleon Hi Cleon I have recently come back to FM and have just finished reading the first two pages of this thread with interest. Apologies if it's been asked elsewhere but I am intrigued why you chose to use wide centre backs when you first started as a division 6 Brazil side. I know you couldn't see their attributes but surely defenders at this level would not have the passing skills to be successful at this role. Or does the passing stat not matter? Would love to know your thoughts about why you chose these roles at this level?

None of this would have ever mattered if they had built the match engine to truly take into account every player and staff members attribute.

That's the problem It looks amazing in match but I could not cope with it outside of the match.

Probably

The Gegenpress is OP challenge Start a save with a team from the lowest division (in any country of your choice) and predicted by the media to finish in the bottom 3. Start the save with no coaching badges and Sunday League experience. Attribute masking on. No editor allowed. What makes this challenge different and the clue is in the name, you are not allowed to use gegenpress tactic nor any maximum versions of trigger press, engagement and defensive line within any other tactical preset. Preset tactics only and only formations that are available in the game. You are free to tinker with the tactics any way you want as long as you don't break the rules above. You are free to use whatever player roles you wish. And you are free to buy any players you deem fit. The challenge is a one club save and it is to win your countries league with the team you started with whilst adhering to the rules above at all times. This is a great opportunity for the true greats in the football manager world to show off their tactical master skills. Oh and no downloading tactics.

I think this game suffers from how vast it is. How many different configurations It can be played under and how many different systems it can be played on. Then you add in the user's management styles and different levels of understanding and people convince themselves that things are wrong and in some cases they are but I bet in many it's mostly user issues.

Unfortunately I couldn't get them to work but thank you for trying 👍

Looks different (see screenshot below) but still doesn't update. I placed the code above the existing container. Should I have placed it into its own container? <?xml version='1.0' encoding='utf-8'?> <panel> <layout class="stick_to_sides_attachment" alignment="all" inset="0" apply_to_children="true"/> <layout class="stick_to_sides_attachment" alignment="all" inset="0,0,40,0"/> <list id="properties_to_forward"> <record get_property="HNEp" target="NEvp" set_property="hidn"/> <record get_property="HFep" target="FEEP" set_property="hidn"/> <record get_property="HTtp" target="NEvp" set_property="hidn"/> <record get_property="OTfi" target="NEvp" set_property="OTfi"/> <record get_property="HTsi" target="NEvp" set_property="HTsi"/> <record get_property="OTsi" target="NEvp" set_property="OTsi"/> <record get_property="HSMt" target="NEvp" set_property="HSMt"/> <record get_property="ASMt" target="NEvp" set_property="ASMt"/> </list> <container id="NEvp"> <attachment_group class="horizontal_arrange" horizontal_alignment="right,extend" horizontal_offset="5" vertical_inset="5"/> <container> <attachment_group class="horizontal_arrange" horizontal_alignment="left,extend"/> <!--LEFT--> <container width="550"> <attachment_group class="vertical_arrange" vertical_alignment="bottom,extend"/> <container class="main_transparent_box" appearance="boxes/custom/match/timeline stats/paper" red_replacement="bg darker"> <layout class="stick_to_sides_attachment" alignment="all" apply_to_children="true"/> <!--Left: Match stats and Action zones--> <container> <layout class="arrange_vertical_attachment" layout="-6,-1,-4" offset="0"/> <layout class="stick_to_sides_attachment" alignment="horizontal" inset="0" apply_to_children="true"/> <!--widget class="match_info_panel" id="bmin" file="match/match info overview" small_version="true"> <translation id="title" translation_id="292788" type="use" value="Overview[COMMENT: match screen; match overview panel title]" /> <record id="object_property"> <integer id="get_property" value="objt" /> <integer id="set_property" value="objt" /> </record> </widget--> <!--Left top: Match stats--> <widget class="match_stats_panel" id="mtst" file="match/custom/match stats overview"> <translation id="title" translation_id="247439" type="use" value="Match Stats"/> <record id="object_property"> <integer id="get_property" value="objt"/> <integer id="set_property" value="objt"/> </record> </widget> <!--Left middle: Referee--> <container> <layout class="arrange_horizontal_attachment" layout="-1" offset="0"/> <layout class="stick_to_sides_attachment" alignment="vertical" apply_to_children="true" inset="0"/> <!--container class="main_subtle_box" layout="-1"> <layout class="arrange_horizontal_attachment" alignment="centre_x" gap="0" offset="0" /> <layout class="stick_to_sides_attachment" alignment="vertical" inset="0" apply_to_children="true"/--> <widget class="referee_profile_panel" file="match/referee profile" id="rsfp"> <layout class="stick_to_sides_attachment" alignment="bottom" inset="0"/> <layout class="stick_to_sides_attachment" alignment="centre" inset="0"/> <layout class="stick_to_sides_attachment" alignment="all" inset="0"/> <record id="object_property"> <list id="get_properties"> <record> <integer id="get_property" value="FRef"/> <integer id="set_property" value="objt"/> </record> </list> </record> </widget> <!--/container--> </container> <!--Left bottom: Summay panel default is Action zone--> <container> <layout class="arrange_horizontal_attachment" layout="-1" offset="0"/> <layout class="stick_to_sides_attachment" alignment="vertical" apply_to_children="true" inset="0"/> <widget class="match_view_selector_panel" id="sel3" pause_match_on_menu_opening="true" default_item="mazp" file="client_object/client object viewer selector match"> <record id="object_property"> <integer id="get_property" value="objt"/> <integer id="set_property" value="objt"/> </record> <widget class="match_action_zones_panel" id="mazp" file="match/match action zones small"> <translation id="title" translation_id="247327" type="use" value="Action Zones"/> <colour id="ptlc" name="white"/> </widget> <widget class="match_home_analysis_panel" id="Mhan" file="match/match analysis small"> <translation id="title" translation_id="281395" type="use" value="Home Analysis"/> </widget> <widget class="match_away_analysis_panel" id="Maan" file="match/match analysis small"> <translation id="title" translation_id="281396" type="use" value="Away Analysis"/> </widget> <widget class="events_match_chalkboard_panel" id="mecp"> <translation id="title" translation_id="247381" type="use" value="Shots"/> </widget> <!--momentum map--> <widget class="match_live_data_analyst_visualisation_panel" id="afMM" visualisation_type="momentum"> <translation id="title" translation_id="535500" type="use" value="Match Momentum[COMMENT: AREA: Data Visualisation; SUB-AREA: Pass map FR: 32708; TONE: Formal; CHARLIMIT: None; NOTE: dataviz title string, the match momentum data viz charts how the match went with regards to each team enjoying spells on top/chances created]"/> <translation id="subtitle" translation_id="551830" type="use" value="Visualisations[COMMENT: AREA: Match Visualisations; SUB-AREA: visualisation subcategory header FR: 32932; TONE: Formal; CHARLIMIT: None NOTE: string for category header of data visualisations from analysis team]"/> </widget> <!--away shot map--> <widget class="match_live_data_analyst_visualisation_panel" id="afSM"> <record id="widget_properties" type="1"/> <translation id="title" translation_id="514222" type="use" value="Shot Map[COMMENT: AREA: Visualisation Header; SUB-AREA: Shot map header FR: 32932; TONE: Formal; CHARLIMIT: None NOTE: Shot map header string]"/> </widget> <widget class="preselected_match_chalkboard_panel" id="prmC" display_event_time_window="5"> <translation id="title" translation_id="450750" type="use" value="Recent Events"/> <list id="chalkboard_events_to_display"> <!-- Shot gone in --> <integer value="1"/> <!-- Shot missed target --> <integer value="2"/> <!-- Shot hit woodwork --> <integer value="3"/> <!-- Shot saved --> <integer value="4"/> <!-- Shot blocked --> <integer value="5"/> <!-- Foul against --> <integer value="14"/> <!-- Foul called --> <integer value="15"/> <!-- Yellow card --> <integer value="16"/> <!-- Red card --> <integer value="17"/> <!-- Foul penalty --> <integer value="18"/> <!-- Offside --> <integer value="19"/> </list> </widget> <widget class="match_report_panel" id="mtrp" file="match/match report small"> <translation id="title" translation_id="248079" type="use" value="Report"/> </widget> <widget class="match_action_zones_panel" id="foap" file="match/focus of attacks panel"> <translation id="title" translation_id="420657" type="use" value="Focus of Attacks"/> </widget> <widget class="match_goal_update_panel" id="mgup" file="match/match goal update small"> <translation id="title" translation_id="336459" type="use" value="Latest Event Updates"/> </widget> <widget class="match_league_table_panel" id="mltp" MLTs="true"> <translation id="title" translation_id="248082" type="use" value="League Table"/> </widget> <widget class="match_feed_panel" id="feed" file="match/match feed panel expanded" navigation_container="true"> <translation id="title" translation_id="516207" type="use" value="The Dugout"/> <record id="object_property" get_property="objt" set_property="objt"/> </widget> </widget> <!-- End of Left bottom: Summay panel default is Action zone--> </container> <!--End of Left: Match stats and Action zones--> </container> </container> <!--End of LEFT--> </container> <!-- RIGHT --> <container> <layout class="stick_to_sides_attachment" alignment="all" inset="0" apply_to_children="true"/> <container> <layout class="vertical_arrange" vertical_layout="-1,-1" gap="0"/> <!-- Home Team stats --> <container class="main_transparent_box" appearance="boxes/custom/match/timeline stats/paper" red_replacement="bg darker"> <layout class="arrange_horizontal_attachment" layout="800,-1" offset="0"/> <layout class="stick_to_sides_attachment" alignment="vertical" apply_to_children="true" inset="0"/> <container> <layout class="arrange_horizontal_attachment" layout="-1,-1" offset="0" gap="1"/> <layout class="stick_to_sides_attachment" alignment="all" inset="0" apply_to_children="true"/> <translation id="title" translation_id="247328" type="use" value="Formations[COMMENT - match screen; 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TONE: Formal; CHARLIMIT: None; NOTE: dataviz title string, the match momentum data viz charts how the match went with regards to each team enjoying spells on top/chances created]"/> <record id="object_property"> <integer id="get_property" value="objt"/> <integer id="set_property" value="objt"/> </record> </widget> <container> <layout class="arrange_vertical_attachment" layout="-1,-1" offset="0" gap="0"/> <layout class="stick_to_sides_attachment" alignment="horizontal" inset="0" apply_to_children="true"/> <!--heat map--> <widget class="preselected_match_chalkboard_panel" id="pmcH" vertical="false" force_left_to_right_events="true" team_to_display="0" average_position_filter="0" aHiL="false" wants_global_events="false" enable_popup="true"> <record id="object_property" get_property="objt" set_property="objt"/> <list id="chalkboard_events_to_display"> <integer value="42"/> <integer value="62"/> </list> </widget> </container> </container> </container> <container> <layout class="arrange_vertical_attachment" alignment="top,extend" offset="0"/> <layout class="stick_to_sides_attachment" alignment="horizontal" apply_to_children="true" inset="0"/> <!--name and kit--> <container class="home_match_incidents_panel" file="match/custom/match incidents left in between highlights" height="50"> <record id="object_property"> <integer id="get_property" value="objt"/> <integer id="set_property" value="objt"/> </record> </container> <!--stats list--> <widget class="match_view_selector_panel" id="selH" pause_match_on_menu_opening="true" default_item="HMts" file="client_object/client object viewer selector match"> <record id="object_property"> <integer id="get_property" value="objt"/> <integer id="set_property" value="objt"/> </record> <widget class="match_team_stats_panel" id="HMts" file="match/custom/match team stats key" team_index="0"> <translation id="title" type="use" value="Home Info Key"/> </widget> <widget class="match_team_stats_panel" id="Htsf" file="match/custom/match team stats full" team_index="0"> <translation id="title" type="use" value="Home Info Full"/> </widget> </widget> </container> <!-- End of Home Team stats --> </container> <!-- Away Team stats --> <container class="main_transparent_box" appearance="boxes/custom/match/timeline stats/paper" red_replacement="bg darker"> <layout class="arrange_horizontal_attachment" layout="800,-1" offset="0"/> <layout class="stick_to_sides_attachment" alignment="vertical" apply_to_children="true" inset="0"/> <container> <layout class="arrange_horizontal_attachment" layout="-1,-1" offset="0" gap="1"/> <layout class="stick_to_sides_attachment" alignment="all" inset="0" apply_to_children="true"/> <boolean id="save_session_state" value="true"/> <boolean id="save_default_state" value="true"/> <widget class="match_formation_panel" id="afor" file="match/custom/match formation small panel" team_index="1"> <record id="object_property" get_property="objt" set_property="objt"/> </widget> <container id="2222"> <layout class="arrange_vertical_attachment" layout="40,-1" offset="0" gap="1"/> <layout class="stick_to_sides_attachment" alignment="all" inset="0" apply_to_children="true"/> <!--away badge--> <widget class="object_portrait_picture" image_alignment="top" scale_picture="true" keep_aspect_ratio="true" wants_mouse_events="false"> <record id="object_property" get_property="away" set_property="objt"/> </widget> <!--away heat map--> <container> <layout class="arrange_vertical_attachment" layout="-1,-1" offset="0" gap="0"/> <layout class="stick_to_sides_attachment" alignment="horizontal" inset="0" apply_to_children="true"/> <widget class="match_live_data_analyst_visualisation_panel" id="afMM" visualisation_type="momentum" force_left_to_right_events="true" average_position_filter="0" enable_popup="true"> <record id="object_property" get_property="objt" set_property="objt"/> <translation id="title" translation_id="535500" type="use" value="Match Momentum[COMMENT: AREA: Data Visualisation; SUB-AREA: Pass map FR: 32708; TONE: Formal; CHARLIMIT: None; NOTE: dataviz title string, the match momentum data viz charts how the match went with regards to each team enjoying spells on top/chances created]"/> <translation id="subtitle" translation_id="551830" type="use" value="Visualisations[COMMENT: AREA: Match Visualisations; SUB-AREA: visualisation subcategory header FR: 32932; TONE: Formal; CHARLIMIT: None NOTE: string for category header of data visualisations from analysis team]"/> </widget> <!--heat map--> <widget class="preselected_match_chalkboard_panel" id="pmcA" vertical="false" force_left_to_right_events="true" team_to_display="1" average_position_filter="1" aHiL="false" wants_global_events="false" enable_popup="true"> <record id="object_property" get_property="objt" set_property="objt"/> <list id="chalkboard_events_to_display"> <!-- Heatmap --> <integer value="42"/> <integer value="62"/> </list> </widget> </container> </container> </container> <container> <layout class="arrange_vertical_attachment" alignment="top,extend" offset="0"/> <layout class="stick_to_sides_attachment" alignment="horizontal" apply_to_children="true" inset="0"/> <!--name and kit--> <container class="away_match_incidents_panel" file="match/custom/match incidents right in between highlights" height="50"> <record id="object_property"> <integer id="get_property" value="objt"/> <integer id="set_property" value="objt"/> </record> </container> <!--stats list--> <widget class="match_view_selector_panel" id="selA" pause_match_on_menu_opening="true" default_item="AMts" file="client_object/client object viewer selector match"> <record id="object_property"> <integer id="get_property" value="objt"/> <integer id="set_property" value="objt"/> </record> <widget class="match_team_stats_panel" id="AMts" file="match/custom/match team stats key" team_index="1"> <translation id="title" type="use" value="Away Info Key"/> </widget> <widget class="match_team_stats_panel" id="Atsf" file="match/custom/match team stats full" team_index="1"> <translation id="title" type="use" value="Away Info Full"/> </widget> </widget> </container> <!-- End of Away Team stats --> </container> </container> </container> </container> </container> </panel>

Wouldn't surprise me. Here is the entire code. Any chance you can see what's causing it not to work? <?xml version='1.0' encoding='utf-8'?> <panel> <layout class="stick_to_sides_attachment" alignment="all" inset="0" apply_to_children="true"/> <layout class="stick_to_sides_attachment" alignment="all" inset="0,0,40,0"/> <list id="properties_to_forward"> <record get_property="HNEp" target="NEvp" set_property="hidn"/> <record get_property="HFep" target="FEEP" set_property="hidn"/> <record get_property="HTtp" target="NEvp" set_property="hidn"/> <record get_property="OTfi" target="NEvp" set_property="OTfi"/> <record get_property="HTsi" target="NEvp" set_property="HTsi"/> <record get_property="OTsi" target="NEvp" set_property="OTsi"/> <record get_property="HSMt" target="NEvp" set_property="HSMt"/> <record get_property="ASMt" target="NEvp" set_property="ASMt"/> </list> <container id="NEvp"> <attachment_group class="horizontal_arrange" horizontal_alignment="right,extend" horizontal_offset="5" vertical_inset="5"/> <container> <attachment_group class="horizontal_arrange" horizontal_alignment="left,extend"/> <!--LEFT--> <container width="550"> <attachment_group class="vertical_arrange" vertical_alignment="bottom,extend"/> <container class="main_transparent_box" appearance="boxes/custom/match/timeline stats/paper" red_replacement="bg darker"> <layout class="stick_to_sides_attachment" alignment="all" apply_to_children="true"/> <!--Left: Match stats and Action zones--> <container> <layout class="arrange_vertical_attachment" layout="-6,-1,-4" offset="0"/> <layout class="stick_to_sides_attachment" alignment="horizontal" inset="0" apply_to_children="true"/> <!--widget class="match_info_panel" id="bmin" file="match/match info overview" small_version="true"> <translation id="title" translation_id="292788" type="use" value="Overview[COMMENT: match screen; match overview panel title]" /> <record id="object_property"> <integer id="get_property" value="objt" /> <integer id="set_property" value="objt" /> </record> </widget--> <!--Left top: Match stats--> <widget class="match_stats_panel" id="mtst" file="match/custom/match stats overview"> <translation id="title" translation_id="247439" type="use" value="Match Stats"/> <record id="object_property"> <integer id="get_property" value="objt"/> <integer id="set_property" value="objt"/> </record> </widget> <!--Left middle: Referee--> <container> <layout class="arrange_horizontal_attachment" layout="-1" offset="0"/> <layout class="stick_to_sides_attachment" alignment="vertical" apply_to_children="true" inset="0"/> <!--container class="main_subtle_box" layout="-1"> <layout class="arrange_horizontal_attachment" alignment="centre_x" gap="0" offset="0" /> <layout class="stick_to_sides_attachment" alignment="vertical" inset="0" apply_to_children="true"/--> <widget class="referee_profile_panel" file="match/referee profile" id="rsfp"> <layout class="stick_to_sides_attachment" alignment="bottom" inset="0"/> <layout class="stick_to_sides_attachment" alignment="centre" inset="0"/> <layout class="stick_to_sides_attachment" alignment="all" inset="0"/> <record id="object_property"> <list id="get_properties"> <record> <integer id="get_property" value="FRef"/> <integer id="set_property" value="objt"/> </record> </list> </record> </widget> <!--/container--> </container> <!--Left bottom: Summay panel default is Action zone--> <container> <layout class="arrange_horizontal_attachment" layout="-1" offset="0"/> <layout class="stick_to_sides_attachment" alignment="vertical" apply_to_children="true" inset="0"/> <widget class="match_view_selector_panel" id="sel3" pause_match_on_menu_opening="true" default_item="mazp" file="client_object/client object viewer selector match"> <record id="object_property"> <integer id="get_property" value="objt"/> <integer id="set_property" value="objt"/> </record> <widget class="match_action_zones_panel" id="mazp" file="match/match action zones small"> <translation id="title" translation_id="247327" type="use" value="Action Zones"/> <colour id="ptlc" name="white"/> </widget> <widget class="match_home_analysis_panel" id="Mhan" file="match/match analysis small"> <translation id="title" translation_id="281395" type="use" value="Home Analysis"/> </widget> <widget class="match_away_analysis_panel" id="Maan" file="match/match analysis small"> <translation id="title" translation_id="281396" type="use" value="Away Analysis"/> </widget> <widget class="events_match_chalkboard_panel" id="mecp"> <translation id="title" translation_id="247381" type="use" value="Shots"/> </widget> <!--momentum map--> <widget class="match_live_data_analyst_visualisation_panel" id="afMM" visualisation_type="momentum"> <translation id="title" translation_id="535500" type="use" value="Match Momentum[COMMENT: AREA: Data Visualisation; SUB-AREA: Pass map FR: 32708; TONE: Formal; CHARLIMIT: None; NOTE: dataviz title string, the match momentum data viz charts how the match went with regards to each team enjoying spells on top/chances created]"/> <translation id="subtitle" translation_id="551830" type="use" value="Visualisations[COMMENT: AREA: Match Visualisations; SUB-AREA: visualisation subcategory header FR: 32932; TONE: Formal; CHARLIMIT: None NOTE: string for category header of data visualisations from analysis team]"/> </widget> <!--away shot map--> <widget class="match_live_data_analyst_visualisation_panel" id="afSM"> <record id="widget_properties" type="1"/> <translation id="title" translation_id="514222" type="use" value="Shot Map[COMMENT: AREA: Visualisation Header; SUB-AREA: Shot map header FR: 32932; TONE: Formal; CHARLIMIT: None NOTE: Shot map header string]"/> </widget> <widget class="preselected_match_chalkboard_panel" id="prmC" display_event_time_window="5"> <translation id="title" translation_id="450750" type="use" value="Recent Events"/> <list id="chalkboard_events_to_display"> <!-- Shot gone in --> <integer value="1"/> <!-- Shot missed target --> <integer value="2"/> <!-- Shot hit woodwork --> <integer value="3"/> <!-- Shot saved --> <integer value="4"/> <!-- Shot blocked --> <integer value="5"/> <!-- Foul against --> <integer value="14"/> <!-- Foul called --> <integer value="15"/> <!-- Yellow card --> <integer value="16"/> <!-- Red card --> <integer value="17"/> <!-- Foul penalty --> <integer value="18"/> <!-- Offside --> <integer value="19"/> </list> </widget> <widget class="match_report_panel" id="mtrp" file="match/match report small"> <translation id="title" translation_id="248079" type="use" value="Report"/> </widget> <widget class="match_action_zones_panel" id="foap" file="match/focus of attacks panel"> <translation id="title" translation_id="420657" type="use" value="Focus of Attacks"/> </widget> <widget class="match_goal_update_panel" id="mgup" file="match/match goal update small"> <translation id="title" translation_id="336459" type="use" value="Latest Event Updates"/> </widget> <widget class="match_league_table_panel" id="mltp" MLTs="true"> <translation id="title" translation_id="248082" type="use" value="League Table"/> </widget> <widget class="match_feed_panel" id="feed" file="match/match feed panel expanded" navigation_container="true"> <translation id="title" translation_id="516207" type="use" value="The Dugout"/> <record id="object_property" get_property="objt" set_property="objt"/> </widget> </widget> <!-- End of Left bottom: Summay panel default is Action zone--> </container> <!--End of Left: Match stats and Action zones--> </container> </container> <!--End of LEFT--> </container> <!-- RIGHT --> <container> <layout class="stick_to_sides_attachment" alignment="all" inset="0" apply_to_children="true"/> <container> <layout class="vertical_arrange" vertical_layout="-1,-1" gap="0"/> <!-- Home Team stats --> <container class="main_transparent_box" appearance="boxes/custom/match/timeline stats/paper" red_replacement="bg darker"> <layout class="arrange_horizontal_attachment" layout="800,-1" offset="0"/> <layout class="stick_to_sides_attachment" alignment="vertical" apply_to_children="true" inset="0"/> <container> <layout class="arrange_horizontal_attachment" layout="-1,-1" offset="0" gap="1"/> <layout class="stick_to_sides_attachment" alignment="all" inset="0" apply_to_children="true"/> <translation id="title" translation_id="247328" type="use" value="Formations[COMMENT - match screen; formations panel title]"/> <widget class="match_formation_panel" id="hmtt" file="match/custom/match formation small panel" team_index="0"> <record id="object_property"> <integer id="get_property" value="objt"/> <integer id="set_property" value="objt"/> </record> </widget> <container id="1111"> <layout class="arrange_vertical_attachment" layout="40,-1" offset="0" gap="1"/> <layout class="stick_to_sides_attachment" alignment="all" inset="0" apply_to_children="true"/> <!--home badge--> <widget class="object_portrait_picture" image_alignment="top" scale_picture="true" keep_aspect_ratio="true" wants_mouse_events="false"> <record id="object_property" get_property="home" set_property="objt"/> </widget> <!--momentum map--> <container> <layout class="arrange_vertical_attachment" layout="-1,-1" offset="0" gap="0"/> <layout class="stick_to_sides_attachment" alignment="horizontal" inset="0" apply_to_children="true"/> <widget class="data_analyst_momentum_chart_widget" file="widgets/data analyst match momentum chart" id="afMM" visualisation_type="momentum"> <translation id="title" translation_id="535500" type="use" value="Match Momentum[COMMENT: AREA: Data Visualisation; SUB-AREA: Pass map FR: 32708; TONE: Formal; CHARLIMIT: None; NOTE: dataviz title string, the match momentum data viz charts how the match went with regards to each team enjoying spells on top/chances created]"/> <record id="object_property"> <integer id="get_property" value="objt"/> <integer id="set_property" value="objt"/> </record> </widget> <!--heat map--> <widget class="preselected_match_chalkboard_panel" id="pmcH" vertical="false" force_left_to_right_events="true" team_to_display="0" average_position_filter="0" aHiL="false" wants_global_events="false" enable_popup="true"> <record id="object_property" get_property="objt" set_property="objt"/> <list id="chalkboard_events_to_display"> <integer value="42"/> <integer value="62"/> </list> </widget> </container> </container> </container> <container> <layout class="arrange_vertical_attachment" alignment="top,extend" offset="0"/> <layout class="stick_to_sides_attachment" alignment="horizontal" apply_to_children="true" inset="0"/> <!--name and kit--> <container class="home_match_incidents_panel" file="match/custom/match incidents left in between highlights" height="50"> <record id="object_property"> <integer id="get_property" value="objt"/> <integer id="set_property" value="objt"/> </record> </container> <!--stats list--> <widget class="match_view_selector_panel" id="selH" pause_match_on_menu_opening="true" default_item="HMts" file="client_object/client object viewer selector match"> <record id="object_property"> <integer id="get_property" value="objt"/> <integer id="set_property" value="objt"/> </record> <widget class="match_team_stats_panel" id="HMts" file="match/custom/match team stats key" team_index="0"> <translation id="title" type="use" value="Home Info Key"/> </widget> <widget class="match_team_stats_panel" id="Htsf" file="match/custom/match team stats full" team_index="0"> <translation id="title" type="use" value="Home Info Full"/> </widget> </widget> </container> <!-- End of Home Team stats --> </container> <!-- Away Team stats --> <container class="main_transparent_box" appearance="boxes/custom/match/timeline stats/paper" red_replacement="bg darker"> <layout class="arrange_horizontal_attachment" layout="800,-1" offset="0"/> <layout class="stick_to_sides_attachment" alignment="vertical" apply_to_children="true" inset="0"/> <container> <layout class="arrange_horizontal_attachment" layout="-1,-1" offset="0" gap="1"/> <layout class="stick_to_sides_attachment" alignment="all" inset="0" apply_to_children="true"/> <boolean id="save_session_state" value="true"/> <boolean id="save_default_state" value="true"/> <widget class="match_formation_panel" id="afor" file="match/custom/match formation small panel" team_index="1"> <record id="object_property" get_property="objt" set_property="objt"/> </widget> <container id="2222"> <layout class="arrange_vertical_attachment" layout="40,-1" offset="0" gap="1"/> <layout class="stick_to_sides_attachment" alignment="all" inset="0" apply_to_children="true"/> <!--away badge--> <widget class="object_portrait_picture" image_alignment="top" scale_picture="true" keep_aspect_ratio="true" wants_mouse_events="false"> <record id="object_property" get_property="away" set_property="objt"/> </widget> <!--away heat map--> <container> <layout class="arrange_vertical_attachment" layout="-1,-1" offset="0" gap="0"/> <layout class="stick_to_sides_attachment" alignment="horizontal" inset="0" apply_to_children="true"/> <widget class="match_live_data_analyst_visualisation_panel" id="afMM" visualisation_type="momentum" force_left_to_right_events="true" average_position_filter="0" enable_popup="true"> <record id="object_property" get_property="objt" set_property="objt"/> <translation id="title" translation_id="535500" type="use" value="Match Momentum[COMMENT: AREA: Data Visualisation; SUB-AREA: Pass map FR: 32708; TONE: Formal; CHARLIMIT: None; NOTE: dataviz title string, the match momentum data viz charts how the match went with regards to each team enjoying spells on top/chances created]"/> <translation id="subtitle" translation_id="551830" type="use" value="Visualisations[COMMENT: AREA: Match Visualisations; SUB-AREA: visualisation subcategory header FR: 32932; TONE: Formal; CHARLIMIT: None NOTE: string for category header of data visualisations from analysis team]"/> </widget> <!--heat map--> <widget class="preselected_match_chalkboard_panel" id="pmcA" vertical="false" force_left_to_right_events="true" team_to_display="1" average_position_filter="1" aHiL="false" wants_global_events="false" enable_popup="true"> <record id="object_property" get_property="objt" set_property="objt"/> <list id="chalkboard_events_to_display"> <!-- Heatmap --> <integer value="42"/> <integer value="62"/> </list> </widget> </container> </container> </container> <container> <layout class="arrange_vertical_attachment" alignment="top,extend" offset="0"/> <layout class="stick_to_sides_attachment" alignment="horizontal" apply_to_children="true" inset="0"/> <!--name and kit--> <container class="away_match_incidents_panel" file="match/custom/match incidents right in between highlights" height="50"> <record id="object_property"> <integer id="get_property" value="objt"/> <integer id="set_property" value="objt"/> </record> </container> <!--stats list--> <widget class="match_view_selector_panel" id="selA" pause_match_on_menu_opening="true" default_item="AMts" file="client_object/client object viewer selector match"> <record id="object_property"> <integer id="get_property" value="objt"/> <integer id="set_property" value="objt"/> </record> <widget class="match_team_stats_panel" id="AMts" file="match/custom/match team stats key" team_index="1"> <translation id="title" type="use" value="Away Info Key"/> </widget> <widget class="match_team_stats_panel" id="Atsf" file="match/custom/match team stats full" team_index="1"> <translation id="title" type="use" value="Away Info Full"/> </widget> </widget> </container> <!-- End of Away Team stats --> </container> </container> </container> </container> </container> </panel>

Thank you. Applied your code to the top momentum panel on the right hand side. Cleared cache, Reloaded skin. It looks different (screenshot below) but its not updating as you can by comparing with momentum on the LHS.

I have managed to get the match momentum panel to show in the right hand screen of the match in between highlights panel. I know it shows twice but I am just testing at the moment. The problem is it doesn't automatically update. It only updates when I go to another screen, say the tactics screen and then come back into the match. Like a screen refresh. The match momentum panel on the left hand side is showing the correct information. Anyone know what I am doing wrong? The code is below: - <layout class="vertical_arrange" vertical_layout="-1,-1" gap="0"/> <!-- Home Team stats --> <container class="main_transparent_box" appearance="boxes/custom/match/timeline stats/paper" red_replacement="bg darker"> <layout class="arrange_horizontal_attachment" layout="800,-1" offset="0"/> <layout class="stick_to_sides_attachment" alignment="vertical" apply_to_children="true" inset="0"/> <container> <layout class="arrange_horizontal_attachment" layout="-1,-1" offset="0" gap="1"/> <layout class="stick_to_sides_attachment" alignment="all" inset="0" apply_to_children="true"/> <translation id="title" translation_id="247328" type="use" value="Formations[COMMENT - match screen; formations panel title]"/> <widget class="match_formation_panel" id="hmtt" file="match/custom/match formation small panel" team_index="0"> <record id="object_property"> <integer id="get_property" value="objt"/> <integer id="set_property" value="objt"/> </record> </widget> <container id="1111"> <layout class="arrange_vertical_attachment" layout="40,-1" offset="0" gap="1"/> <layout class="stick_to_sides_attachment" alignment="all" inset="0" apply_to_children="true"/> <!--home badge--> <widget class="object_portrait_picture" image_alignment="top" scale_picture="true" keep_aspect_ratio="true" wants_mouse_events="false"> <record id="object_property" get_property="home" set_property="objt"/> </widget> <!--momentum map--> <container> <layout class="arrange_vertical_attachment" layout="-1,-1" offset="0" gap="0"/> <layout class="stick_to_sides_attachment" alignment="horizontal" inset="0" apply_to_children="true"/> <widget class="match_live_data_analyst_visualisation_panel" id="afMM" visualisation_type="momentum" force_left_to_right_events="true" average_position_filter="0" wants_global_events="false" enable_popup="true"> <record id="object_property" get_property="objt" set_property="objt"/> <translation id="title" translation_id="535500" type="use" value="Match Momentum[COMMENT: AREA: Data Visualisation; SUB-AREA: Pass map FR: 32708; TONE: Formal; CHARLIMIT: None; NOTE: dataviz title string, the match momentum data viz charts how the match went with regards to each team enjoying spells on top/chances created]"/> <translation id="subtitle" translation_id="551830" type="use" value="Visualisations[COMMENT: AREA: Match Visualisations; SUB-AREA: visualisation subcategory header FR: 32932; TONE: Formal; CHARLIMIT: None NOTE: string for category header of data visualisations from analysis team]"/> </widget> <!--heat map--> <widget class="preselected_match_chalkboard_panel" id="pmcH" vertical="false" force_left_to_right_events="true" team_to_display="0" average_position_filter="0" aHiL="false" wants_global_events="false" enable_popup="true"> <record id="object_property" get_property="objt" set_property="objt"/> <list id="chalkboard_events_to_display"> <integer value="42"/> <integer value="62"/> </list> </widget> </container> </container> </container> <container>

Look forward to seeing what you come up with Ben. This skin has plenty of promise.

Prefer bars to dots in this graphic.

Hi Ben to answer your original question I'm playing 100% in 2560x1080. Did try in 1920 resolution but it was the same. Agreed about not moving the attributes below. There would be a disconnect. Hadn't thought about that. The spacing between those dots is better. Wonder if it would look better if the white labels were left aligned as the dots are?

Don't fix it sounds hilarious or you could have a snowflake level for those easily offended.

Awesome thanks mate.

I loved this skin and love the ethos behind it but ultimately at least for now I have moved to another skin. The reason being was the way the attribute dots were displayed. In my version they were in to small an area and were tightly packed. It felt uncomfortable on the eye and lacked intuition. So much so I didn't feel I ever got to know my players. I feel if the attributes were moved into the box below which was wider the dots could have been spaced better (as in more space between the attributes not the dots themselves) and would have been more visually appealing, at least for me. Also whilst I'm here I would have preferred the labels within the attributes to be left aligned rather than centre aligned.

Just got around to using this and it's surprisingly good. After trying many flashier skins they just didn't feel right. This one takes the original skin and improves it in subtle ways which makes for a game that doesn't overwhelm you with information. One thing I would change is the hidden attributes area. As a lower league manager who likes to play as realistically as possible this is a no-go for me. If possible could you tell me where the code is located so I could remove this section?