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i ve the same problem.. i play 433 with West Ham.. and every throw in was maked by Antonio

I can't yet express myself with the utmost certainty.. but if you've read the whole post you understand what I'm looking for, and with this tactic I'm seeing it.. placebo effect? I don't know.. for now I'm enjoying it and I continue to study the weak points..

Untitled video - Made with Clipchamp.mp4 this is the kind of goal that makes me jump on my seat!! and yesterday I jumped! PS: you can't see the frame of the ball entering the goal but I guarantee you it was a goal.. due to the size of the video I had to cut it to upload it!!!

STOP EVERYONE! I believe to have find a solution.. Yesterday evening when I watched Europa League, my mind worked, worked and worked... and worked about this damn 4-2-3-1.. And i think at the end, but if I ve a 4-3-3 possession football that I use from FM19, why i can t pick up the same principles and apply them in this tactic? with the necessary corrections... And... at 1:00 AM.. I gave birth to her.. 4-2-3-1 Possession Football.. I want to be honest, I see many beautiful things in this tactic.. but really many.. especially in the phase of possession and recovering the ball as soon as possession is lost.. At the moment I'm just thinking about whether to keep the DLP-Su or replace it with a DM-S.. with the same tasks.. I don't think the tactics change much with this change... but being a possession-based tactic and the playmakers move a lot to receive the ball in FM24, I immediately thought that the DLP was better than the DM... Well...someone want to tell me the idea of him and make me regret what I did??

Super!!! thanks for your feedback… now i do some matches, like 10/15… and i make a decision.. if i see something that dont work or other..

someone can help me? i'm completly heartnroken with this tactic.. I m never satisfied I can explain what I want from the players.. but please.. help me..

Yes great… the central defender it s better if is a BPD… thank you for your feedback… if i understaid correclty, you don t change any players instruction correct?? i mean from default tactic that i ve posted.

Great… WCB-Defense and WB-Support i think… or in attack?

Thanks for your tips AndrikoDS, i change some instructions and i wrtie this changes in answer to Prolix! Prolix, I like your answer so much.. thanks for your time.. However... I really appreciated your intervention because it's really simple but gets to the point. You highlighted a few but probably decisive things.. So to summarize: - to start the maneuver and still give a decisive imprint to my tactical style, I would like to leave the slightly slower tempo but I remove play out of defense, but I insert for the goalkeeper "distribute the ball to the central defenders" so as to still ensure a starting from the bottom without adding "less risk" by play out of defense.(1) - midfield, just the comment that both have "hold position" but it was only set because I have a very fluid team and I wouldn't want them to be too out of position in a negative transition (2) - eliminated the instructions in transition, no counter-press and no counter. -offensive phase, correct observation, the wingers have very little freedom and few creativity instructions, I therefore transformed both wingers into IW-So by setting PI only "take more risks", "go further forward" and "marking", leaving the standard passing, shooting and crossing. -again for the offensive phase I changed from underlaps to overlaps, it seems more logical to me (3) -eliminated "work ball into box" in the TI and the "shoot less often" in forward instruction. - the comment relating to the negative transition phase was also very useful, where you tell me that the team would not have defended correctly, maybe I'm getting the principles wrong as I've always been used to playing with a 433 but the 4231 has different defensive principles, so I thought about setting standard pressing for everyone in the PIs except less pressing for the two central defenders and more pressing only for the attacker(4) and change his role from AF to P(in my opinion it reflects more how my forward must play in this tactic system, he must only score, not participate in the offensive phase but only score and free from the marking by moving) I inserted some numbers in brackets to ask questions, so that it is more intuitive to understand what I am referring to: 1) I only set "distribute to Centre-Backs", no FB, only CB, by setting it like this it seems to me that the goalkeeper always passes it to the defenders, both from byline and when he has the ball in his hands, and it's a good thing I see or is it just a coincidence(3 matches i play)? 2) To bring the team into Flexible and therefore remove "hold position" of one of two DMs, I set the two FBs as WB-Df, I must say that from the first 2 games I can see them very well, they arrive well in the last third of the field perhaps also thanks to the overlaps instruction, in this way I have the team in flexible and set like this: DM-So (fake DPL-So) with More direct passes, take more risk, dribble less, shoot less otfen and tackle harder. BWM-So with Take fewer risks, shoot less often and hold position (I want this to be a defensive pivot rather than a creation one and I want it to be a game balancer by making tackles once you take a counterattack, so I just want it to stay in position and helps the circulation of the ball), Which is your opinion for these changes? 3)Do you think it is a correct choice having also put the WB-Df in order to increase their mentality and make more use of the flanks or maybe it s better to leave they in FB-So and team fludity in very fluid? 4) Do you believe that these pressing settings can be "logically correct" and the change of role forward? Sorry for all these questions but being a neophyte for the 4231 and having a lack of knowledge of the game principles of the 4231 I struggle to set it up, which doesn't happen with the 433 or 352 which I know the game principles much better. Thank you in advance for taking the time to respond and for your support in creating this 4231. I also attach the screen with the tactics and instructions of the players updated after these changes.

Thanks @Rashidi!

Guys… but, the list of roles mentioned by Rashidi in the first post, like AP, Mezzala etc etc, he mean of both duty support and attack? Or not?

Nothing answers... i think nothing tips!?!?!

ok.. great.. I think your thoughts about transition ticks make sense, I try not to use transition ticks. In your opinion, would it be a wrong thing to set "stay wide" to the two attacking midfielders by removing the move into channel option? Could you post me your tactical idea that you had in '23, so that we can compare and maybe exchange some more opinions on it?

I like your changes.. did you try LWB in support and WCB in defense also? did you change some Pi instruction? beacuse i think sometimes that i put “stay wider” at AP and AM.. with your changes did you think that the tactic is complete?

Beautiful guys… so, your test is important for me.. CM to DM is a good option, i think that the best option is DLP-S and BWM-S, and change CAM from support to attack.. so, i think that WCB to Support i dont like, i prefer this setting.. @Arijit you change only CM to DM and the duty of CAM correct? @WhyMe did you think that Team Instruction and Players Instruction is correct? Or there are all ok? only change DM and CAM-Att? in your opinion is better if i put slightly narrow TI and not Narrow? thanks guys..

Ok Prolix... Thanks for your tips, but if you tell me in this way, i don't understaind what do you mean... Which are instruction that do the defensive phase disjointed and the offensive phase slow and predictable? Please tell me in which way this thins it could be modify... Thanks

hi all! I'm trying to create a 4231 with my football principles. I don't think I'm very far from the final goal but I still see something that isn't working. Too many goals conceded and sometimes little ball possession, which is the basis of my philosophy.. The idea of the game is a mix between the game of Moyes and that of De Zerbi, dominant ball possession with AP who should function as an assistman, the DLP as a game creator and the wingers both finishers and assistmen, DM cover the creator moment of DLP and FB assist all time the offensive phase. I wanted to ask you if you have any tactical suggestions for this 4231 or if there are instructions (PI or TI) for you that are incorrect. This is the tactic: This is Players instructions: I have read the 4231 DM thread in this forum a lot but I can't find a solution. If anyone could help me?? PS: I want to create a 4231 non especially for one club, but for the idea.. i can use this tactic with Man Utd, Blackburn, Bayern Monaco etc etc.. i would to create a tactical idea non plug and play! Thanks in advance for your tips!

Why Sunderland? for the history of the club? For players? Or for what? i know sunderland only for series Netflix😅

Hi guys, i'm ready for test new FM24 with new career, but i'm undecided about this teams: Sunderland Bolton Blackburn Can anyone suggest me which club is better to make a new career, and his motivation please? i'm italian and I want to ask in this forum which is the best option. Thnaks in advance

do you mean for his resistence? really? Good tips this for me..

Ok.. So this instruction affect only in the "middle" of construction.. priority of where the ball play after first play of defense player.. correct? I understaind?

Hy guys... Little info please... i think that i lost myself in a small glass of water... Which is the difference when we have the ball? Sorry if the image are in italian...

I try one thing in this tactic, and i see that works good… l change defensive line from higher to standard and nothing instruction relative drop off or step up.. works well…

Did you use some PI in this tactic.. because intensity is very high.. i want to learn to create a 4231, but this tactic it s so intense

I follow this interesting thread!!