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Clive English - Back to the motherland - APOP Geroskipou Before the players could even start introducing themselves to Clive, a bald man with a rough stubble, wearing a shirt with stains and holes, and some jeans looking like they were found in a skip came and whisked him away. He took him into a small, dimly lit 'office' with 2 cheap looking plastic chairs, one of them being used as a desk, and proclaimed himself to be the chairman of the club. Clive thought to himself that this must just be the local nutter who is some kind of fantasist, thinking he owns a small team, but then he realised that he was the same but just a manager instead. The 'chairman' said his name is Konstantinos, and asked Clive to take a seat on the floor, but promised to find another chair for when they meet next. Konstantinos told Clive that the club was a phoenix club from a team formed 5 years earlier under the same name but had disbanded. A small amateur village club playing in the 5th Tier of Cypriot football, the ground is a park that can hold around 250 people from the village, Clive was told to finish in the top half of the table, and reach the semi-final of the league's cup to be able to carry on coaching for another year. Konstantinos then pulled out a camera from around 2004, took a photo of Clive without warning with the flash on and sent it to the local paper. The next morning the following article appeared online: Clive wasn't too happy about the photo, but assured himself that the camera adds 15lbs. His thought the best course of action was to pick out his best suit and head down to the training ground for his first training session, in case anyone from the Pafos Football Express would be down taking more photos. He left his house, and being July in Cyprus, immediately regretting wearing a blue shirt, which was already soaked in sweat, but he was late as it was, so had to run to the pitches. When he got to training, someone with a press pass tucked in their hat took a photo and ran away laughing. A good start as a manager. Clive's first session went well, mainly training his team on a tactic that he wanted to implement. It was a simple tactic, which is what he told his players instead of the truth that he had no idea what he was doing, but it worked, and they took to it like Minions to Gru's plans. "APOP Geroskipou will be playing a 4 4 F*cking 2 - Mike Bassett" - Clive English

Clive English - Back to the motherland - APOP Geroskipou Despite such a British sounding name, and being born in Ilford, near London, Clive English's heritage comes from Cyprus, in a small town called Konia (Κονιά) in the Paphos district. During the summer, Clive decided to leave the UK and return to his roots in Cyprus, back to Konia. During his first week back, he explored the small town and compared to London, it was barren, with nothing to do. He decided to walk to the nearby town of Geroskipou, around a 45 minute walk from his house in Konia. During this walk, he saw a football pitch with a group of lads, having a kick about. Due to the quality of the football on show, he walked up, and in very broken Greek, asked if he could join them. To his suprise, they told him that they were in the middle of a trial day for the newly reformed APOP Geroskipou and he had missed the sign up date. Despite not being a very good player, but having been a great assistant manager at a Lidl store back in the UK, Clive knew that this was a chance to reinvent himself, possibly with the help of a white lie or two. He asked the players if they had a manager for the upcoming season. One or two of the players shook their head, but the majority stayed silent. He then told a tale of how he was a manager of "Little Shore FC", hoping that his accent would cover his tiny lie. The disinterested looks quickly turned to looks of excitement as Clive talked up about how he organised the back, and filled the middle and front with a mix of styles and how this had got results. The players, for the first time looked optimistic, and asked "Who are you?", Clive responded "Clive English, from England, looks like you boys have a manager."

Rebuilding an Empire - Mongolia ... Immediately. We have not left Mongolian Dream. We have been approached by the Mongolian Football Federation to be the new manager of the national team though. We took control on 5th December 2038 with Mongolia ranked 181st in the world. These updates will have to be slightly different, as I have used calendar years instead of seasons. 2039 Started: 181st Finished: 173rd (+8) Our first test was the 2042 World Cup qualification, entering at the first round, we beat Nepal 5-4 over two legs to see us into the second round, where we were drawn in a group with Hong Kong, Malaysia, North Korea and South Korea. Qualification started well with a win over Hong Kong, but then a 3-1 loss to Malaysia put a damper on our hopes. The next 2 matches went very well indeed, only losing 1-0 to a strong S.Korea team and a shock 1-0 win against the North Koreans meant we still had an outside chance of qualifying. We bottled the next game against Hong Kong though, so our chances were pretty much gone after that. 2040 Started: 173rd Finished: 168th (+5) We finished up our WC qualifying campaign with a win against Malaysia, and back to back defeats to the two Korean teams. We finished 3rd in the group behind the Korean sides, but finished ahead of Malaysia and Hong Kong, both ranked above us. Next came East Asian Cup preliminary qualifiers, I wont show the table for this as the teams are so bad we are never going to do anything but top the group. In the actual qualifiers, we played games against Hong Kong, China and Taipei. Beat Tapei and Hong Kong but lost to China. 2041 Started: 168th Finished: 163rd (+5) 2041 was our first foray into Asian Cup, being drawn with Bahrain, Oman and India. In 2041, we lost to India 2-0, and then beat them 3-0 in the return leg, beat Bahrain 2-0 and then lost 1-0, and drew with Oman 0-0 to leave it a 3 horse race for the 2 qualification places on offer. 1 - Oman - 11pts/+3 GD 2 - Mongolia - 7pts/+2 GD 3 - India - 7pts/0 GD If we matched India's result in the last game against Oman, we would be heading to our first major tournament with Mongolia. 2042 Started: 163rd Finished: 160th (+3) The big match against Oman. We took the lead after 11 mins from a Zagarzusem shot, we were in, India was still at 0-0. 24 mins, we get a goal notification from India, they had gone 1-0 up, but as long as we don't draw or loose this game, we are through. 28mins, Oman get a goal back, we pile on the pressure, and nothing until the 67th min, Oman score again. We throw everyone forward now. 9 minutes later, Zagarzusem gets his 2nd, but it still is not enough to see us qualify yet. 82nd min, Oman score their 3rd to pretty much seal our fate. Pretty much playing the rest of the game with only 2 defenders, Zagarzusem gets his hattrick, but 3-3 is the final scoreline, and India held out to win 1-0. No rest for the wicked, as we were straight back into E.Asia Cup qualifying, against Hong Kong, Taipei, and North Korea. A win against HK set us up for the game that was imperative we won against North Korea. This time around there was no shock win though, as we lost 3-1. The wheels had fallen off and we followed that up with a loss against Taipei to see us finish 3rd in the group. More updates to follow, from 2042 to 2047.

Rebuilding an Empire - Mongolian Dream 2038-2042 Update Apologies for the lack of an update from the last post, have not really been enjoying/had the time to get back into any sort of Football Manager. Here is a glance at the 2038-2042 seasons for your Mongolian heros. Seasons at a glance 2038 Season Won everything domestically, obviously. In Asia, after 3 years of torment in the group stage, we actually managed to make it out, not by topping the group but by having a top 3 second place finish after beating Central Coast Mariners twice. Ended up getting shown up in the second round 5-2 on aggregate by Perth Glory, but never the less, a good step forward for the club, and an extra home game did our bank balance no harm. League table Domestic results Champions League fixtures/group Champions League 2nd Round 2039 Season Won everything domestically, obviously. Although, we did draw 2 games in a row 1-1, where I imagined the board finally started having second thoughts about me as manager. In Asia, after a lot of positivity from last years second round showing, we came crashing and burning, not making it out of the group, finishing 3rd, despite scoring 15 goals in the 6 games (9 were against the whipping boys of the group), our best attacking performance in the Champions League yet. League table Domestic results Champions League results/table 2040 Season Won everything domestically, obviously. Another blip though, actually loosing a game! A horrific group stage, and definately one we want to put behind us, finishing dead last, scoring 9 and conceeding 19! Despite beating Shenzhen 3-2 in the first round of group games, we lost and drew against Japanese side Sakai FC, being beaten by Seongnam 5-2 and 3-2, and then losing to Shenzhen 7-1! With the cash that was now burning a hole in our pockets, we improved the youth facilities from Average to Good to try and help up the chances of improving the team from the inside. League table Domestic results Champions League results/table 2041 Season Won everything domestically, obviously. Misery in the Champions League, 1 point from 6 games. Yes we had a hard group but every game we played we were outgunned, this was a low point in this save with the sea of red in the fixture list. We still had some cash leftover from the facilities upgrade in 2040, so went ahead and upgraded our youth facilities again, this time to Great. League table Domestic results Champions League results/table 2042 Season Won everything domestically, obviously. A slightly better season for us continentally, not getting the wooden spoon for the 3rd season in a row, finishing 3rd but still a disappointing season. League table Domestic results Champions League results/table More updates to follow...

Rebuilding an empire - Mongolian Dream Update I know that this thread has been inactive for the last 6 months odd. I took a break from FM while renovating/moving into my new place, but I have been back playing. Another reason the season by season updates stopped was because it was far too predictable, us dominating on the domestic front but not getting good results in the Champions League (I know it has only been 1 season on the thread but wait for the next update to see). In the next few days I will try and get a few updates out, depending on image size, but it will most likely be a 5 or 10 year update, and moving forward, sporadic updates at the same kind of timeframe, possibly with not a lot of detail, mainly results and tables ect. Reason being is that due to multiple factors the save has become even slower moving than a snail, I will list a few of them out here; Mongolia's youth rating is 15 out of 200 On the editor they are a 3rd world nation On the editor they have the worst game importance possible Mongolia's population is just over 3.3 million, more than half the size of London's This makes youth recruitment difficult to produce any decent quality of player, I only learnt about some of these aspects about 20 years into the save. Prize money in Asia is very limited, to make more than £1,000,000 you have to get to the final of the Champions League Player registration rules in the Champions League and Mongolian League is tough to get over - 4 foreigners (3 non-asian), 6 in the league To become a Mongolian citizen, you need to renounce all other citizenships and live continously in Mongolia for 5 years. This means that finding wonderkids (or promising players) that will come and play for us near on impossible. And spoiler, it took over 5 years of saving to improve my youth facilities to excellent. Obviously the goal is still to win a Champions League with Mongolian Dream, but I suspect that it will be closer to 2100. #halamongolia

Rebuilding an empire - Mongolian Dream 2037 Season Transfers Just the one transfer going out this season, Tserenjav Y36 leaving as there is no way he is getting in the first team squad with the talent up front. Champions League This season, we got a pretty tough draw, with Jeonbuk, Higashiosaka, and Melbourne Victory. We started poorly, only picking up 1 point from the opening 3 games, and being dominated by Jeonbuk and Higashiosaka, who are still miles better technically than us. In the second group of results we didn't look too bad, and secured a 3rd place finish in the group by beating Higashiosaka at home and struggling to a 0-0 vs Melbourne Victory, the final game against Jeonbuk didn't really matter but this season showed that last season's run in the Champions League may have been a fluke. Still a long long way to being good enough to challenge for the knockout rounds regularly yet. Super Cup League Results/Table Another perfect season. We also managed to crack 1,000 spectators in the last game of the season, hopefully in the next few years these numbers will be our regular turnout and give the club a boost in cash flow. Mongolian Cup Another easy win in the cup. Youth Intake 2 players to keep an eye out for, Ottono-Monkhbaatar Y37 can come in as a backup DL for the future, and Naidanhorol Y37 will come in probably as a starter as a BWM/BBM. Team of the Season Ben Salem and Osokhbayar Y32 still banging in the goals consistently, with Hoohoi Y34 also bagging 7 from 12 off the bench. Osokhbayar Y32 also getting 18 assists, which is the first time since 2026 that a striker has got most assists. Club Records Extra News

Rebuilding an empire - Mongolian Dream Quick update/Breaking News Not too sure why the 2036 seasons screenshots aren't properly added. No it's not an issue with your browser. Wont be able to fix this as I am in the USA for just under a week, but should have the 2037 season up by Friday hopefully. Double exciting as it is our first season as a fully professional club! Again, no screenshots of the inbox notifications of this but I will add something with the dates on the 2037 season. Hopefully this will bring some good development to the club within 5 or 10 seasons.

Rebuilding an empire - Mongolian Dream 2036 Season Expectations Looking to build on the momentum from last season's Champions League campaign, hopefully can get more than 6 points. Need to continue to win trebles to inch the club reputation up too. Transfers 3 players leaving after last season's big clear out, 2 youth academy graduates leaving at Ihsan also being released as he was not getting in the Champions League squad due to foreign restrictions, and I would rather develop young players in the league. Champions League Still a massively tough group this year, but we weren't the whipping boys! We were unlucky to lose to Macarthur in the first game, but in the second game, we capitulated, and ended up losing 5-3. This time April 25 from North Korean snuck in through the qualifiers, and it showed how much we have gone forward as a club, beating them 4-1 and 2-1, as the last time we played them we lost in an AFC qualifier 7-3 on aggregate, losing 5-1 in the first leg. The big story of this Champions League, were the 2 games against Jeonbuk, who were just off the back of 12 straight K League 1 wins and a Champions League the previous season. In the first game, we were up 3-0 until the 89th minute, and conceded in the 90th and 91st but held on to get a vital win. In the second match, we knew a win would see us get top spot in the group, and after getting a goal back from Chabbi, looked like we might be able to snatch an improbable win. Bold Y32 lost his head and was given a straight red in the 59th minute though, and we didn't look like scoring after that, but we held out for a draw. The rules in the group stages are the top 3 2nd place sides in the Eastern groups (5 groups) go through to the second round. We lost out on that 2nd round spot by 1 goal difference. Super Cup Another one. League Results/Table Our streak of perfect seasons ends at 3, disappointingly, and in the most FM way too, I've added the match as a spoiler below for anyone interested. Mongolian Cup Another one, this time beating lower division Kharaatsai 8-0 in the semi, with Osokhbayar Y32 getting 5, before beating Tov 8-1 in the final, again, Osokhbayar Y32 getting 5. Youth Intake 2 from this intake, for some reason at the time, I also screenshotted one of their attributes. Uuganbayar Y36 comes in as an option on the left of midfield, and Punsalmaa-Muntsguu Y36 adding another quiver to our MC bow, although at a massive 5'7", can also cover at DC. Team of the Season Chabbi weighing in with 11 goals this season from DC, none from penalties either! Uuganbayar Y34 coming in with 20 assists from DL, knocking Mohammed off top assists, who got 21 goals and 17 assists. The main men up top, Ben Salem and Osokhbayar Y32 getting 42 and 37 respectively. Club Records

Rebuilding an empire - Mongolian Dream Disclaimer Just a quick disclaimer before the preface, I am currently in 2039 on this save, so there will be limited screenshots of players/match details until the thread has caught up with the game. Preface I have always been interested in build a nation type saves, and I have tried them before in Europe, so I thought that I would challenge myself in Asia. I chose Mongolia after watching the grand tour episode that was filmed over there and just found the country fascinating, along with the fact that only 1 Mongolian player has ever played professionally outside of the country. I am using a 3 tier database, starting in the bottom division, my manager has no qualifications, no previous playing experience, so is as good as the players in the league. The club Mongolian Dream (Mongoliin Temuulel in Mongolian) is a team based in Ulaanbaatar (As are most teams in Mongolia) and play at the MFF Stadium. All facilities are at the lowest level possible and finances are at £0, but as the club is amateur, we are in no immediate threat of debt. Mongolia in Asia As mentioned this will be a build a nation save, in the nation coefficients, Mongolia start in 41st position out of 47, with 6 of those nations not having any teams in continental competition, so effectively we will be starting in 41st from 42 nations. The top division gives 1 preliminary qualifying place into the AFC Cup, the Europa League equivalent, with no spots in the Champions League. There is no continental spot available through the Mongolian Cup. Game Setup I have included all available Asian leagues, over the course of the save I might add some other leagues as view only, but we are nowhere near that yet. Currently running on around 200,000 players there or thereabouts. I will probably give season reviews as there are only 18 games in the league across all 3 divisions, season 1 hopefully out tonight.