BeeInExile

Yes, exactly. Three of the most common complaints in how the game works: -You can run really high intensity tactics without suffering ill-effects. -Youth players don't get picked enough so they can't develop. -Physical attributes are king - mental and technical attributes are less important. All three of these would be alleviated by having injuries at a realistic level, instead of the reported 80% of reality that is programmed into the game. But if a patch is perceived to have too many injuries, watch a large section of the fan-base scream bloody murder. Personally I would rather SI just ignored these people, but at any rate if people are complaining about the above, they should realise they can't have it both ways.

Less unrealistic than you might think. Ethan Pinnock, who's even taller than this guy, started out as a winger in non-league before moving to centre-back.

As people are saying up-thread, there are elements inherent to international football (you can't sign players; there are few matches) that are always likely to make it a less popular game mode compared to the club game, so to some extent it's understandable that SI don't put so much energy into it. However, there are a number of features that already exist in club football in the game that have not been added to international management for whatever reason. That I find harder to understand. These include: A) training - at least match prep and resting B) proper press conferences (surely international management should have these if anything should!) C) interactions with your players (this is presumably not done because these are already imperfect and players of club teams would kick up a stink if their international players were always becoming unhappy) D) job interviews E) special shirt numbers ("the famous number 9 shirt previously worn by x etc. etc.) F) Visions Possible reasons for the above not being implemented: A) may be hard for coding reasons somehow C) may be judged not to be a good idea right now The rest? I really couldn't tell you. We all know that SI plans years in advance the features they will implement in the future versions of the game. There is 100% chance that there was a meeting at some point in 2021 planning the headline features for FM23, and someone (probably in Marketing) will have raised making it an edition centred around international football, given the Qatar World Cup. I would genuinely love to know how to that discussion went, and why they decided against that approach. There may well have been good reasons! Hopefully one day we'll find out what those were. At the moment though it makes me extremely pessimistic that international management will ever be improved.

Good idea! I've added it.

Much appreciated. Excellent work.

Fantastic! Would reiterate that I would love you to do the Tanzanian league next - I can't find a good version of that anywhere and it's actually one of the big leagues of the continent these days.

Brentford's Ambitions are quite out of date IMO. For reference, the current ambitions are: 1) Expects Attacking Football - 15 2) Expects signings from lower leagues - 12 3) Expects Entertaining Football - 14 4) Prefers not to sign players over 31 - 15 1) is significantly out of date. Brentford since promotion have played a counterattacking style, not an attacking one. This season Thomas Frank has aimed for a slightly more possession-dominant style but has still gone low-block against the big 6. I would remove this altogether. 2) is far too strong and could be removed altogether. Since promotion, the only players Brentford have signed from the lower leagues are Keane Lewis-Potter and Ethan Brierley. Also arguably Ben Mee since he was signed from a relegated Burnley, but the game probably wouldn't count him so nor will I. Compare that total to the dozen or so total signings we have made since promotion and it's clear that that is no longer our key fishing ground, and hasn't really been since 19/20 or maybe arguably the season after when we signed Ivan Toney. Similarly if you look at the players we were linked to over the summer, they were playing for PSV, Nottingham Forest and Fiorentina. I would reduce this to about 3 or remove it altogether. As a side note, this ambition is particularly annoying because it is poorly implemented. I have played as Brentford with a team challenging for the top 4 and been close to the board blocking all my transfers because they were so determined that I had to sign players from the Championship or below, even though unsurprisingly there are actually basically no players in the database playing in the Championship who would improve a Champions League level team. This is something that no real life team would ever do. It would be better implemented as "Sign players from domestic teams who finished below you in the league structure last season" - this would e.g. pick up the signings of Collins and Mee. At the moment it's not fit for purpose. 3) Fair enough - maybe might drop this to about 11 but it's not unreasonable. 4) Fair enough although the age could even be lowered - we're clearly mainly looking for players 24 or under at the moment. On the other hand, there are several ambitions that I am surprised are not included: Expects Strong Set Pieces - I would think this speaks for itself. I would suggest 17. Expects Counter Attacking Football - even in games where we are possession-dominant, we still break fast and hard. Suggestion: 14. Expects Possession Football - given Frank's desire to make us an established Prem team, would suggest maybe putting this at 5. @Brentford Alan

Nice work. My suggestions are similar to those above. I've found downloads for several of the leagues above, but not found ones for Morocco or Tunisia so they'd be my first preferences and my Zambia AR colleague @StanBoy11 has made a great file for Zambia so no need to do that IMO. The other big leagues I have yet to find files for are Tanzania and Sudan, so they'd be welcome too.

Updated version that apparently improves Finances. Zambia (D5) - by Stan.fmf

Glad you enjoyed it!

Hi, I'm BeeInExile, and I'm one of the two Assistant Researchers for Zambia. My co-researcher has created a mod so that you can play in Zambia. I'm here to tell you why you might want to do that. Zambia: “That's that country that begins with Z that's not Zimbabwe, right?” Zambia is a country in south central Africa with a population of almost 20m people. It's sort of butterfly-shaped. It's a former British colony and won independence in 1964. It's a democracy and has never had a successful coup or a civil war. Zambia is home to half of Victoria Falls – it shares them with Zimbabwe. It's also a major world centre for copper production. Copper, and cobalt which is found in similar geology, are the major exports. Zambia is in many ways the land of copper. The national football team is nicknamed Chipolopolo, which means the Copper Bullets. There is a copper-coloured part of the national flag, and while most Provinces of the country are named after points of the compass, one region is called the Copperbelt. This matters because football is historically a game of the industrial working classes, and Zambia has been unusually urbanised for an African country, mainly thanks to the mining towns that grew up around the copper mines. The vast majority of the most successful teams throughout the history of Zambian football are either from the Copperbelt, or latterly from Lusaka, the capital. The football culture: Zambia has produced some pretty decent footballers in its time. Enoch Mwepu was a starter for Brighton until his recent retirement. Patson Daka plays for Leicester City, and Fashion Sakala played for Rangers in Scotland until his recent move to Saudi Arabia. Zambia's legendary players include the striker Kalusha Bwalya, and Godfrey Chitalu, who probably exceeded Lionel Messi's record for the number of goals scored in a calendar year, scoring 107 in 1972. They've been a solid country in African football for a long time, punching above their population size, if only rarely reaching the heights. Perhaps Sweden in Europe is a fair point of comparison. Enock Mwepu's retirement due to a heart condition is not the only tragedy to strike Zambian football, however. In 1993, most of the national team, widely regarded as a golden generation of players, perished in a plane crash in Gabon. Zambia's AFCON victory in 2012, which took place a matter of metres away from the site of the crash, is surely one of the most moving stories in sport. However, Zambia have never qualified for a men's World Cup – perhaps you can change that? The clubs: The first thing to know about the clubs in general is that they work differently from nearly all the ones in Western Europe. Clubs in Zambia, especially the major ones, are usually sponsored by either a mining company (which is usually the case for the ones on the Copperbelt) or by a branch of the government. They are old-style works teams, like PSV and Bayer Leverkusen used to be, and their sponsor would never sell them. So if you really love trains, why not manage Kabwe Warriors, who are sponsored by Zambian Railways? Or if you really dislike the penal system, you'll want to thrash Nkwazi (the police team) and Prison Leopards (the prison officers' team). Epithets: Many Zambian clubs have epithets associated with them, which can be a sort of nickname. For example, Zanaco are known as Sensational, Nkwazi are High-Flying, and Nchanga Rangers are Brave. Kabwe Warriors, who must have the most nicknames of any team in Zambia, are known as The Magnificent People's Team, or Magnificent for short. League and Cup Format: The top two leagues are both professional, and operate in a straightforward round robin format. Each league has 18 teams. The top four teams in National Division 1 are promoted to the Zambian Super League, and the bottom four teams in both leagues are relegated to the league below. The ABSA Cup is the only domestic cup, and is a straight single legged knockout competition. The teams selected for the cup are those that are in the top 6 of the Zambian Super League and the top 2 of National Division 1 at the end of game week 17 (so halfway through the season). The ABSA Cup often has surprising champions. There is also a Charity Shield. As in many other countries, this is the season curtain-raiser and is contested between the winners of the previous season's league and cup. The league runs from August to May. Zambia's rainy season from January to March can cause problems with this schedule. Qualification for Continental Competition: Until recently the top four teams in the Zambian league qualified for continental competition. However, following the poor performance of Zambian teams in the past few seasons' Champions League and Confederations Cup, Zambia only has two slots for continental qualification. The league champions qualify for the Champions League, and the runners up qualify for the Confederations Cup. This season these are Power Dynamos and FC MUZA respectively. Maybe you can get back Zambia's four slots? Rules: You can only have 5 non-Zambians in your match-day squad. Also, B teams can play in the same division as their senior teams. If you think this might be open to abuse, you would be right. Suggested teams to manage: The Big Dogs: The Zambian league is actually quite competitive. Five teams have won the league in the past decade (ZESCO, Power Dynamos, Nkana, Red Arrows, and Zanaco), and there have been four different winners in the past four seasons. The ABSA Cup, the domestic cup, also goes to all sorts of different teams. This is not the Bundesliga, with only one regular champion, or Scotland, with two. With that said, some teams are definitely “bigger” than others. Nkana, ZESCO United, Power Dynamos Nkana: probably the most supported team in Zambia, “Kalampa” (clamp) are the second most successful team in the history of Zambian football. They are based in Kitwe, one of the biggest cities in the Copperbelt, and are sponsored by a mining firm. Nkana have been a strong team for a long time, but their heyday was the 1980s, when they were the dominant side. Their resemblance to Man Utd goes beyond their similar crest, though – although Nkana won the league in 2019/20, they have since struggled to make a real title challenge, and have had several very underwhelming seasons since. Maybe you can change that? Power Dynamos: the defending champions. Power were by far the best side in the 2022/3 season, and even losing their star striker Kennedy Musonda in the January transfer window didn't stop them from claiming the league title. They are Nkana's local rivals, and the derby between them is the biggest domestic grudge match in Zambia. Sponsored by the Copperbelt Electricity Corporation, Power have a bit of an emphasis on generating players from their youth system, and a sort of ambient culture of playing a slightly more technical and possession-based game than the Zambian average. Perhaps Arsenal is a good comparison. Although historically they have won fewer trophies than Nkana, they are the only Zambian team ever to win a continental trophy – they won the African Cup Winners' Cup in 1991. This season they have qualified for the African Champions League. Can you do one better? ZESCO United: The closest thing to a dominant club in Zambia in the past decade or so, ZESCO United are based in Ndola, another big Copperbelt city, and are sponsored by the state power company ZESCO. Their distinctive orange and green strip makes them hard to miss. They've been Zambia's most successful team in CAF competitions recently, but had a mixed season last time around. Early struggles under Numba Mumamba gave way to gradual success under “Chicken” George Lwandamina. Can you put them back on their perch and then win continental glory? Fallen Giants: Mufulira Wanderers; Roan United Mululira Wanderers: Mufulira Wanderers are the most successful team in the history of Zambian football, and have some of the most dedicated and passionate fans. However, most of their trophies were won in the 1960s and 1970s, shortly after independence. Since then, although they provided a lot of players for the national team in the 1980s, and have always produced talented players that have gone on to other clubs, trophies have been thin on the ground. Based in the mining town of Mufulira, and sponsored by the same mining company that sponsors Nkana, can you lead Maite (“Mighty”) back to glory? Roan United: Roan won the first ever Zambian league title, way back in 1962. Their traditional black and white strip was a symbol of racial integration. Since then though they have been much less successful. “Stylish” narrowly failed to qualify for National Division 1 this year, and are playing in the Copperbelt regional league. Can you take the Luanshya-based team back to the summit? Emphasis on Youth: Kafue Celtic; Atletico Lusaka If you want to try a challenge based around youth, these two teams are your go-to. Unlike the other clubs in the Zambian pyramid, these two teams specifically focus on youth development and maintain themselves by selling their best prospects to European clubs. Kafue Celtic are the more established of the two. Run by Lee Kawanu, they have identified and trained up a number of Zambia's brightest stars and prospects, including Enock Mwepu and Patson Daka. Currently however their on-field performance hasn't matched their development success. They suffered two successive relegations under the watch of head coach Joel Bwalya, and are now languishing in Lusaka Province Division 1. Can you develop a great team of young Zambians to glory? Atletico Lusaka are the newer team of the two. Having been born from the former FC Barcelona youth academy in Lusaka, Atletico focus heavily on La Masia-style technical, possession based football, and even have a Catalan technical director. They have generated some of the brightest prospects in recent Zambian football, and provide a significant proportion of players at youth international level. While they don't have the pedigree of Kafue Celtic, they are currently the more successful of the two, as they are playing in National Division 1. Can you tiki-taka your way to continental success? Nearly-men: Kabwe Warriors Definitely one of the bigger teams in Zambian football, Kabwe Warriors are sponsored by Zambian Railways and are the biggest team in Kabwe, a city in central Zambia. However, their significant support base and position as one of the more popular teams in Zambian football has not translated into trophies, with their last league title being in 1987. A possible comparison team for fans of the English Premier League would be Aston Villa. Kabwe Warriors were also the club that Godfrey Chitalu played for when he broke all the scoring records, and their stadium is named after him and his achievement of scoring 107 goals in a single year. Perhaps you can nurture an even better striker and get Kabwe Warriors back to the top of the tree? Fun Geography: Livingstone Pirates; Mpulungu Harbour; Mpulungu Youth; Chipata United These four teams are notable for being from some of the extreme locations as far as Zambia, and especially Zambian football, is concerned. Livingstone Pirates come from the tourist town of Livingstone in the far south, adjacent to Zimbabwe and Victoria Falls. The two Mpulungu teams are from Mpulungu on the shores of Lake Tanganyika in Northern Province, more than a day's travel from many of the more established teams, and much closer to Tanzania. Mpulungu Harbour have cultivated a no-one likes us, we don't care attitude, and have a strong home record, while Mpulungu Youth are newbies to National Division One, and in spite of their name, have no particular emphasis on youth players. Chipata United are the only team in the top two divisions from Eastern Province, and are based in Chipata, a small city on the Malawian border. Newly promoted, they are owned and coached by the passionate and controversial Esau Zulu. None of these regions are traditional hotbeds of Zambian football, but they attract significant local fanbases, perhaps because of their distance from the Copperbelt and Lusaka. Can you upend the traditional geography of Zambian football and make the people of these provinces proud? Quirky: Barts FC; Maestro United Zambia (FC MUZA) Barts FC are an oddity. Based in Southern Province, they are funded by a Christian missionary charity from the USA. They are in fact named after the missionary who is their chairman, a white Californian named Bart Barker. In spite of this unusual background, as far as playing style and performance on the pitch are concerned, Barts FC are relatively typical. They were relegated from National Division 1 last season, but have a capable coach in Robert Tembo. Perhaps you can get the Mighty Elephants to bounce back and even take their message abroad? FC MUZA are a rarity in elite Zambian football, as they are a privately owned club. They are owned by Keith Mweemba, a highly successful lawyer, and based in the sugar-producing town of Mazabuka in Southern Province. Although they don't have the biggest budget in Zambia, MUZA are known for their clever talent identification. They have had a rapid rise and came second in the league last season, qualifying them for the African Confederations Cup. They have some talented players, including their striker Andrew Phiri. Can you maintain the trajectory of their rise and win them their first Zambian league title, making them the first team from Southern Province to win that trophy? Crisis Clubs: Buildcon; Lusaka Dynamos Both these teams are in dire straits. Buildcon's main sponsor has found himself in trouble with the Zambian government and withdrawn funding. Only a matter of half a decade ago, Buildcon were famous in Zambian football for their multinational squad and their willingness to spend big. Now they've been demoted to the regional leagues and their very existence is very much in question. Lusaka Dynamos are one of the institutions of Zambian football. Run by Hanif Adams since the early 1980s, Lusaka Dynamos gained a reputation for developing young players who went on to bigger and better things in Zambia. “The Elite” even became somewhat popular abroad. Hanif Adams has seldom been wealthy enough to fund the club himself, and so has looked for rich businessmen to help sponsor the team. Recently it's fair to say that this has backfired. Similarly to Buildcon, they have lost all funding as well, have significant debts to players who are still seeking back payments, and have been relegated to the provincial leagues. It's unclear whether Lusaka Dynamos will even survive. Can you bring them back from the death? Full list of all the clubs in the Super League, their sponsors, and their epithets: Name Sponsor Epithet Forest Rangers Forestry Service Green Buffaloes Army Green Eagles National Service Kabwe Warriors Railways Magnificent Kansanshi Dynamos Mining Company Fearless Konkola Blades Mining Company Maestro United Private Owner Mufulira Wanderers Mining Company Mighty Mutondo Stars Private Owner Evergreen NAPSA Stars Pension Fund Nkana Mining Company Nkwazi Police High-Flying Power Dynamos Electricity company Powerful Prison Leopards Prison Wardens Red Arrows Air Force Trident Mining Company Zanaco Bank Sensational ZESCO United Electricity company How you may wish to set up your save: You can download the file here. It will also soon be available on Steam if you prefer to use that. Zambia is significantly revamped and improved from previous FMs, but I can't deny that it's still a work in progress. The Super League (top division) is in decent shape, but National Division 1 is patchy – not through lack of effort. You may wish to add extra players when setting up a save, although I hope you'll be pleasantly surprised about the amount of players and club information that is already in the game. There are mods available that will provide graphical improvements for everything except kits, although the kits are in decent shape anyway so that should be less of a problem. All the teams have their real names by default. If you are interested in helping us make Zambia even better, please do drop me a line. Sources on Zambian Football: If you want to learn more about football in Zambia, I highly recommend https://zambianfootball.co.zm/. If you want to learn about the clubs, very few of them have their own websites. Their default method of communication is Facebook. Zambia has a high percentage of English speakers and nearly all written football discussion is carried out in the language.

Hi, My fellow Zambia Assistant Researcher @StanBoy11 has created this rather nifty file that enables the Zambian league system. It features the top two national leagues, as well as between three and five regional leagues per province below that, as well as the ABSA Cup and Charity Shield. So if you've ever wanted to try out a save in Africa, why not give it a try? We'd love to know what you think. If you'd like to know more about football in Zambia and why you might want to start a save there, why not check out a post I did on the forums about that? Zambia (D5) - by Stan.fmf

Currently it is possible to set certain clubs to have the ambition to sign players from certain countries as part of their club culture. However, some clubs have a more generalised culture of signing players from a specific continent, but it is not possible to represent this with the current Ambitions system. Clubs such as RB Leipzig and Liefering, FC Nordsjælland, and MFK Vyškov all sign notable numbers of African players, usually directly from African clubs. However, this is not represented in the game. As far as I can tell, this is quite significant to the development of African footballers over time. In real life, players from African countries will often go to from their African league to these clubs, before moving on from there to bigger clubs subsequently. The fact that these clubs do not operate in this way, as a stepping stone into Europe for high potential African-born players, means that many high-potential players remain in Africa in their local leagues and do not reach their full potential. I would suggest therefore that there is a new Ambition: "Sign players based in X continent". I use this phasing advisedly, because the aim would be that the clubs above would sign e.g. Malian players from clubs in Mali, not just Malian players from somewhere else in Europe or wherever. Hopefully this would not just be a sort of paper Ambition - these clubs would actually then go out and scout African clubs to find their best prospects and sign them. As an aside, these clubs usually sign younger players from Africa - not 30 year olds, and they sign for potential, not ability. I don't know how this could best be enacted in the game's code. The last thing I want is for Vyškov to sign a bunch of 27 year old Egyptians because their CA is suitable for their first team.

I should say that I wouldn't mind so much about this if it was just a matter of newgen players' heights being unrealistic in the game, since height itself is basically cosmetic. The real issue is that height influences Jumping Reach, so you wind up in a situation where if you want a team with aerially dominant centre-backs and a target forward, your best bet is to wait a year and sign some 15 year old newgens.

Funny you should say that - they actually have! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shayne_Pattynama

In real life, some nationalities of footballer are on average significantly shorter than others. However, this is not reflected in the game. For example, Indonesian footballers are on average significantly shorter than those from Western Europe. If you look at the database, you won't find players who are 2m tall from Indonesia. However, if you go a year into the game, the newgens all seem to be generated with the same underlying distribution of heights - a distribution that seems to be drawn from Western Europe. This means that a year into the game, Indonesia suddenly gets a bunch of 15 year old players who are 1.95m or more in height. In real life, the lack of height available to some countries is a massive problem. Indonesia for example have partially solved this by calling up Elkan Baggott, who is part English, and Jordi Amat, who is part Spanish, to play in central defence for them. There aren't any players who are solely of Indonesian heritage who can match them in height. With the introduction of women's football to FM, presumably there will be separate height curves for men and women added to the game anyway, since women are obviously shorter than men on average. I think it would be good if height curves were also added for each nationality in the database, to avoid the Tall Indonesian problem.

With the Unity engine, might it be possible to add in a yearly choice of new kits for your team and the opponents in your division? Teams have primary, secondary, and tertiary colours for their kit on ORDB already. Why not have an option every season where the team gets to choose between the home existing kit and a new kit, which uses the same primary, secondary, and tertiary colours, but uses a different kit template to generate the actual kit? The player could be given the option to choose between the two of them in pre-season, with both options being mocked up in an Inbox message. Obviously some teams always have stripes for their home kit for example, so in those cases maybe the templates could be restricted. As for away kits, the same could apply but with fewer restrictions. This seems to be a much easier case, as few teams have a canonical away kit colour. Maybe the away kit would be a random choice of colours and template, as long as it was not too similar to the home kit. Again, as the player every season you could choose between the generated one and the one that had been programmed into the game.

With the introduction of the new engine for FM25, please could it be possible to create and edit player kits to enable gradients of colour from one colour to another, instead of just blocks of colour? For example this kit, which fades from black to green https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=827741412457495&set=pb.100056649326729.-2207520000

In real life, I have noticed that some clubs sign affiliate deals with the aim of upskilling their coaches. For example, Zanaco, a team in Zambia, have signed an agreement with La Liga that includes La Liga coaches coming to Zanaco to lead training sessions. The idea is that the Zanaco coaches will learn new coaching techniques from their La Liga counterparts, making Zanaco better, and in turn this will make their players more attractive prospects for teams in La Liga. https://www.znbc.co.zm/news/zanaco-fc-ink-partnership-deal-with-la-liga/ Similarly, Kafue Celtic, another Zambian team, have signed an affiliation deal with Locomotive Tbilisi. Part of the terms of that deal also include an exchange programme for the coaches, again with the aim of upskilling them. https://m.facebook.com/ZambiaReports/photos/a.651330624984966/5377107265740588/?locale=ne_NP&_rdr Currently there is no way to do this in the game. Here’s how I suggest it might work: The option should only be available if the junior club is not in a developed country (I know the game has a three-way classification of countries in this way). The team that is the senior club must be in a country of a higher development level than the junior club. The senior club will also always ask for something in exchange for agreeing to this option. If this type of affiliation is agreed, coaches at the junior club will see their stats increase a small amount (say maybe 4 points total across all their stats?) every year that the affiliation has been signed (until they reach their potential, obviously).

Just to say thanks for adding the President's Cup to FM23!

Yep, I’ve noticed this too.

Just to say that I have also noticed this issue. I slightly wonder if it has something to do with the registration windows and the transfer windows being out of whack. A player whose contract ends 31/12/2022 (and there are lots of them) has to wait til 1 July 2023 for the next transfer window to open, even though the next registration window is 17 February 2023.

There are lots of good suggestions that I've seen for how to make international football better in FM, but one thing I've not spotted is that the visuals at the moment are basically the same as at club level. This makes it feel far less special. The unique aspect of international football is not the matches themselves, but all the pageantry surrounding it. For example, see the match below, a friendly between Indonesia and Uzbekistan. I've circled the national flags. See if you can spot them! There are a bunch of flags in the stadium that are variations on the teams' colours. Those should be replaced with the national flags. Quantity has a quality all of its own, and I don't think there should be licensing issues when it comes to countries' flags. There should also be FAR more of them around the stadium - I deliberately zoomed out for this picture just so I could demonstrate the issue, but you often can't see any at all if you're playing at Director view. In the pre-match cut scenes, what about adding something like this (minus the football), where the flags are displayed on the pitch? https://www.dreamstime.com/nigeria-argentina-flags-two-countries-international-football-game-pairing-illustrated-soccer-field-green-image119641725#_ Also shots like this, with the fans waving lots of flags? https://www.alamy.com/stock-image-france-fans-wave-flags-in-the-stands-during-the-international-friendly-165314214.html Or this, with the fans holding a giant flag? https://images.app.goo.gl/WL1UJtne585tuodw6 Two other, related suggestions: I'm playing at home, and Indonesia's colours are red and (to a lesser extent) white. Why is there so much yellow in the stands? Shouldn't the seats (and the barriers) be coloured red? They are in real life. https://www.indonesia-tourism.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2019/09/1_ObfCGZwTxO6Y0HXnRkPDyw.jpeg . To be clear, I'm not suggesting getting the licenses for stadiums - just providing a real-life example. Could we get a cut-scene shot of the players singing their national anthem (or at least standing to attention for it)? In an ideal world, it would look something like this: https://youtu.be/crYEEf3g3us?t=29 but I appreciate that adding mouth movement animations might not be worth the effort.