nms1987

This is a carry over issue from FM23 that does not appear to be addressed in FM24. Caveat, I'm noticing this on a FM23 save game I converted, so maybe isn't the case with new games... but I bet it is. There is no way to easily give players a pay raise to the minimum salary for registration. So, I am in La Liga 2, which has a 77,500 (euros) a year minimum salary for registration. I have a couple 20-22 year olds that have been on my youth squad and out on loans to third tier clubs, and they have been on appropriate contract for that type of player (15 to 30k a year). I think they're ready to play a minor role on the first team this season, but I can't register them because they make far below the La Liga 2 minimum salary for registration. There SHOULD be a prompt when I try to register them, that says something like "player salary below registration minimum, would you like to increase to minimum?". Nothing else changes in the contract - bonuses, years, options, release clause stay the same - but salary goes up and they can be reg'd. But ok, I can't do this. So I try to offer a guy a new contract with everything else still the same (years, clauses, options, bonuses) as his current deal but with a 78k salary and a 50% relegation reduction clause. Again, he is making 30k a year now, so even if we get relegated this year he'd drop to 39k... so still more money than he makes now! But nope, he rejects it. He wants a better deal, despite nothing changing from this deal except more money. It has no trade-offs for him, only gains! It's not like this is a "player wants a better deal because he has been performing so well" situation either. Only previous playing experience is loans on the 3rd tier. Which brings me to another reason it's illogical for a guy to refuse to sign this deal... you think he'd want to play first team football at a higher level, which he has to accept the deal to do. A side issue is that this also limits your ability to loan guys in. Many loan targets of mine from the Portuguese leagues make less than 78k/yr. You'd think that even if a guy is on a 60k a year contract with his Portuguese team, when I loan him in, I could agree to pay him an extra 18k/yr more so he could be registered. I assume that is how things would happen in real life, though I don't know. I'd be curious what the real life norm is for these situations. I have uploaded Ze Porto - Huelva 26aug29.fm To recreate this issue... try to give contracts to Akande Afolabi or Jesus Nsi. Offer them 78k/yr and the same appearance bonuses, contract end date, release clause, 50% promotion bonus and a 50% relegation reduction (again, even if relegated, they'd make more after this reduction than they do now), and then lock in those values and offer. They will say they are backed into a corner and refuse, costing themselves the chance to make more money and play first team football. I guess have fun doing nothing and making nothing all year guys. I'm sure there are logical, easy solutions in real life to these situations that FM's player logic won't allow to be implemented for some reason, very frustrating, shouldn't be this difficult.

Submitting this here in (vain) hopes it can be fixed in FM24, but I realize it might not be able to Something that has bothered me in FM23 and still seems to exist in FM24 is that the AI can be happy to loan in a player from you, but if you add an option to buy they are only interested in the option being for a very small fee, and if you're not willing to budge from the larger fee, if you try to negotiate their peanuts counter offer at all, they will walk away from the loan entirely. Given that they were already interested in first place in a loan-only arrangement I don't see how there is any downside in having the option to purchase. Even if they option to purchase is for higher than they would like, they don't have to accept it, and could always submit an offer at the end of the loan for a smaller amount, after they've gotten to test drive the guy for a year. This is common IRL. You loan a guy in, secure an option to buy for 10mil, maybe after a year you like they guy but don't like him 10mil worth, so you offer 5mil instead and see what happens. When I am bringing a guy in on loan I always ask for a buy option if possible... often they are for amounts larger than I can afford, but hey, ya never know, and - I repeat - there is NO DOWNSIDE to having the option. Sometimes I'll buy the guy anyway by offering a smaller amount, sometimes I take the option, sometimes I don't have any interest in keeping him permanently. I've uploaded the file "Ze Porto - Huelva 31jul29.fm" This is in Spanish La Liga 2. To recreate this issue you can offer out midfielder Akande Afolabi, asking for Reg Starter and 100% of salary covered. A week prior (when game was still FM23 save) I rejected a bid around maybe 300k for him. I've currently agreed on a 900k asking price with the player. So he has some kind of value. After a few days Hercules in the Spanish 3rd tier will offer to take him on loan, paying 70%/80% of salary. After a little negotiation you should be able to get them to get agree on 100%/100%/Reg Start. A good deal for them, he'll be a standout in the 3rd tier and they only have to pay 30k of salary for a year of him. Now, add an purchase option for 500k to these otherwise agreed loan terms. This will cause them to drop their offer to just 90% of salary covered, and offer a measly 70k buy option with 30% sell on fee. If you reply with the original 100/100 + 500k option a couple times they will eventually walk away. Why would any rational actor not simply accept? You can also loan out goalkeeper Ivan Abad, ask for 100% salary covered and First Choice Keeper. I just got Lusitania Lourosa (in Portugal's top league at this point) to bid for him. After a little negotiating I have Lourosa willing to pay 100% and First Choice. Now, if you add an option to buy for 500k (guy's value is 300k-800k, so I think IRL the option would usually be for more than current value, so maybe 1m in this case, but I'm going low to prove a point here) they'll drop the amount of salary they're willing to cover to 80/90%, change the playing time they're offering to backup, and counter offer for about 300k (though with a hefty sell on %). If you reply with 100%, starter and 500k option to buy they'll walk away from negotiations. So, 100% paid and starter is ok to them, and 100% paid, starter with 500k buy option is NOT ok. How does that make sense? I realize this is just one game example I've attached, and loaning a low value player to very small team maybe isn't the best example, but I promise you you can easily recreate it at any level of FM. Adding a buy option for anything other than bargain price scares off the AI and makes them walk away from a loan they were otherwise ready to take and there is no reason I can think of why it should be the case.

If you click away from the interview screen during an interview, you are unable to finish it. It is just over. For example, if during the interview, you click on the team profile on the right of the screen to view more information about the team you are interviewing with, when you then click on the red "must respond" button in the upper right to return to the interview... well, you don't return. It just ends the interview abruptly. In most other interactions in FM, contract negotiations for example, you can move off the interaction screen and return via the "must respond" button and you're returned to where you left off in the conversation. It's really frustrating to not be able to leave the interview to look at the team's roster or current facilities, so you can properly answer questions about changes or improvements you'd like to make. I raised this issue as a bug in FM23 but never got a response. It seems to still happen in FM24, though to be fair the game I am seeing it on right now is a game I have moved over from FM23, so maybe that is a factor. Thanks! Save file is Ze Porto - Huelva 21jun29valoffer.fm

Not a bug, but something I found surprising, is that Marítimo is projected (according to the choose a team screen) to finish in the relegation zone of Portugal's 2nd league? They were the "best" of the relegated teams from Liga 1 last year (finishing 16th and losing the playoff), and they are not an up and down team, this relegation ended a 40 year run in the top league. Back to back relegations certainly happen from time to time, and once stable clubs certainly can begin floundering and sinking quickly, but it does seem unusual for a team just relegated from the top league to be PROJECTED to do so poorly. Usually you'd at least project them to do well the next year, even if it doesn't always turn out that way. In real life they are currently sitting 2nd in Liga 2. I'm sure I could be missing something about what they lost from last year's team that would make them expected to do so poorly in Liga 2 this year, but I thought this might be some kind of data error. Oh, and recently promoted from Liga 3 and very small (and drowning IRL) Lank FC Vilaverdense (LFCV) is predicted to finish 2nd in Liga 2. Feels as backwards as Marítimo getting relegated. Again, not expecting FM to be real life, I love that it allows crazy things to happen! But I thought these two predictions are so outlanding (and basically perfectly reversed from what they should be) that maybe it was an error Thanks for the great game!

I'm in the middle of a job interview with Lille, and they ask what I might like improved if I took the job. I click on Lille's profile to see their youth coaching and facilities info. Once I'm on the Lille page I have no way of getting back into the job interview, I guess its just over? Save game is "Ze Porto - Huelva 21jun28lilleoffer"

Two days before the last day of the season I am on track to fulfill a play young players promise. I have been playing several youth products throughout the year, a few of them as every game starters. The last match of the season I have nothing to play for, so I give a few youth players who haven't played as much some starts. Two days after this I noticed I have suddenly failed the promise. So aggravating, what gives? Not once in the course of the year was the status anything other than "pleased with youth performance" and now after the season is over it changes? Madness Save games are "Ze Porto - Huelva 2Jun28" and "Ze Porto - Huelva 6jun28endszn" for the before and after last game of season

I just got promoted from Tier 3 to Tier 2 in Spain. With both my manager's own contract and my player's contracts, none of the wages that had a promotion increase % agreed in the contract actually increased. This is actually a problem because some of those contracts I signed with the idea that they'd get to over 80k per year upon promotion, as La Liga 2 has a 79k per year minimum salary to register a player. I know sometimes the game will mention "top division promotion" but in all of these contracts in merely says "promotion salary raise," so I would think going from 3 to 2 counts. I have a guy who I signed, while in Tier 3, to a contract with both a minimum release, a non-promotion release and a relegation release. Since being promoted to Tier 2 only the minimum release (the highest of these 3 numbers, obviously) is displayed on his contract. So, at least to some extent, the contracts realize I was promoted. My very poor team is likely to go right back down, so I'm kind of curious if the relegation salary drop will then go into effect and guys (both my manager and the players) will wind up making less money than if they had never been promoted in the first place. I have saves from both before and after the promotion and new season changeover I can share. I have uploaded "Ze Porto - Huevla 20Jun27promod" and "Ze Porto 12jul27promod 2027.08.02" to show a before and after, but I have other files as well. I put it on Vacation and did this a couple times and each time it doesn't raise the salaries.