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Hi @JorgenThank you for the Welcome! Each legend and star featured in the game is already integrated within the database. Their age range typically spans from 15 to 25 years, reflecting the pivotal developmental years of their careers. Primarily, these iconic figures commence their virtual journey at the club where they initially made significant appearances, aligning with the age they were when they first debuted for that particular team. However, exceptions may arise, particularly for much older legends and stars, who are introduced into the game at their peak performance ages, generally between 23 to 26 years. Regardless of their age, players are assuredly situated at the club they represented during the corresponding stage of their careers.

That depends on what you mean by 'Retired Person'. If the player has retired from playing but is now a non-player still in the game as some kind of staff, then yes, those ones can be returned to player. If they are are fully retired, as the case may well be or just not in the database at all, then yes it's a case of creating a new one. Either way we try as much as possible to preserve the existing player/non player and only create a new one if there is no other choice.

Welcome to the Ultimate Legends & Stars 1844 - 2024 This Database covers the whole of Football History since 1880-2024. It is the original Legends Database which first appeared in 2014. It is the most accurate, best quality and most in depth Legends Database ever produced for Football Manager. This is the ULTIMATE LEGENDS GAME! To Celebrate it's 10th Anniversary, it is coming back bigger and better than it has ever been before. What sets us apart? We're not just another database. We're the result of meticulous research, extensive testing, and a commitment to accuracy that rivals the finest football analytics out there. With data sourced exclusively from FIFA, PES, UEFA, and other official statistics, you can trust that every player, every stat, is as real as it gets. Step into a world where every footballing icon from 1880 to 2024 is resurrected, ready to grace the pitch once more. But it's not just about the players. We've resurrected the managerial maestros, the tactical titans, and the chairmen who shaped football history. Can you outwit Brian Clough's Nottingham Forest or withstand the tactical genius of Jose Mourinho's Chelsea dream team? The challenge awaits, and the stakes have never been higher. And let's not forget the drama, the rivalries, the heated clashes that define football folklore. From the legendary battles between Clough and Revie to the resurgence of Blackburn Rovers, every moment is recreated with the authenticity and passion it deserves. So, are you ready to rewrite football history? Join us on the pitch, where legends are reborn, stars shine brighter, and the beautiful game reaches new heights of glory. Are you up for the challenge? Over 10 years Editing experience and with nearly 30,000 hours editing experience you can be assured of a flawless production. * Mega Face Pack Release * Guarantees No player is released into the game until fully researched and fully tested. The player will be at the club that they were at when they were the age that they start in the game. Only Legends and Stars will be created in this database, not players who had potential but never delivered on it. LEGENDS ICONS STARS Think Football Manager meets FIFA Ultimate Team! A LEGEND, ICON OR STAR is a player who mainly played at international level and / or won significant honours and / or played in the top divisions throughout career and a substantial amount of games. If they played for the same top club for long periods, then that would also be seen as a significant advantage whereas any significant periods in a lower division would diminish legendary and star status. Common Sense is used amid the plethora of research undertaken to ensure accurate ratings and using only historical evidence and data to determine the most accurate results in the modern football arena. These Legends and Stars will not start lower than the top 2 divisions in the nations they are starting in These Legends and Stars will not start at a club unless they played on at least 30 occasions for that club The earlier the players were born, the older they will be at the start of the game. Players ages range from 14 to 34, to give you a rough idea, a player born in 1800-1810 will start at 34 years old, whereas a player born in 2001 to 2010 will be 14 years old. There may be exceptions due to a player having to start slightly older either because they did not play at least 30 times for that club or that club does not exist anymore or that club is now playing in a division that is not in the top 2 divisions of the nation they are playing in. Players who start at a younger age will need to develop in order reach their potential, whereas the older a player is, the nearer to their peak potential they will be, and certain players will play having reached their peak and then players who start at an older age, the older the player is, they will have started to lose some of their ability, as in heading past their peak and starting to decline as a footballer. The better the player is potentially, the more likely that they will still start the game at a high current ability despite their advancement in years. If there are any legends or stars you would like to see in this database then please let me know and the relevant research will be carried out and I will do my best to get them included for you if they have not been previously researched and included already. Any QUESTIONS? Don't be Shy! *** COMING SOON ***

Tony Chairman Going to give this a go

Thanks Michael. I understand that, however then I can only conclude that not all of the issues were fixed in the latest update because a lot of silly goals still being conceded. I would have thought the hot fix would have cleaned up all the issues. Therefore are we saying there will be another update soon? This FM feels different to other FMs esp. the match engine, were there significant changes made to the Match Engine for FM24?

Any idea when the next update will be Zach?

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The update is released between the end of February and early March so everything is still within the time frames communicated. The speculation is endless but the fact is that everything is going according to the schedule. When things don't happen right away, remember, it takes 6 months to build a Rolls Royce and 13 hours for a Toyota.

The update will be set live as soon as it's ready to go and only when it is ready. I am positive that work is ongoing and the patience of the community is greatly appreciated

Precisely, The update will be set live as soon as it's ready to go. Work on the update is ongoing and the patience of everyone in the community is greatly appreciated. Usually the update is released between late February and early March but only once it is ready to be released.

I remember that too, I just don't think FM is that kind of game, it needs it's player base, it's the kind of game that just never ends, it constantly needs developing day after day, from month to month and from year to year. It is so in-depth that they employ helpers from all around the world to research and help out and the expectation that it can just come out and be perfect and not need updating just isn't realistic in this particular case. It's a great idea and wouldn't it be amazing! but some games are just not built that way.

Isn't it still in a better state than anything else on the market though if there is no competition? How often would you say they need to update the game for it to be to your satisfaction? They update the game but they just don't release all the updates at once. they bundle the updates up and then release an update with a lot more fixes some of which are not included in the list of updates they publish when the update patches are released. Rather than constantly update with lots of smaller updates as they go along. They also go through an ALPHA Stage before the BETA, The Alpha stage is given to professional footballs and other 'selected' players to test the game and then they can release further updates before the BETA, every single game has a BETA Stage but the problem is that some of the updates and fixes can only be found once the full beta game is released so they have to do it that way to find these bugs, then they rely on the community to play the game and find the bugs etc and report them on this forum so that they can work on fixes BEFORE the Full Game is released and then they are constantly relying on the community to find any further bugs that remain and release updates periodically throughout the year culminating in the final winter update so in fact the development never stops and when the final update is released, development starts immediately on the next years game. A lot of features are only found once you play the game. I agree. Some features are good and some features are not so good but it's a matter of opinion, some features you may like and some i may like but we might disagree on that. The fact is that they are always creating new features based on the communities input plus input from within and around the game and professionals and staff from the world of football and where a feature may be need improving, that is something they can work on and improve on in future editions, so damn right it is up to this community to help and guide them too, are they perfect? no one is perfect but I am absolutely confident that a lot goes on behind the scenes and SI and Miles do everything they can to make the game the best possible version it can be whilst keeping in line with the limitations (with the coding e.g.) and what works and their own unique vision for the way they want to develop their game. But the community does have an open say and so the question is also what would you do differently because they would love to hear your suggestions and the suggestions of everyone in the community.

Correct, the main winter update which should be out tomorrow, is already a week later than the previous few years and then later on in March, you would expect the final update as has been the case in the previous 2 instalments of the game.

Great points, they are very valid suggestions, which is why I asked if you had put them in the suggestion area of this forum. Interestingly it is the people who complain about the game the most who are the first ones to buy it when it is released!

Precisely there is no competition. So it's clearly in a league of it's own, do you think Apple would have reached the level it has without the very high levels of competition it had to keep pushing it to new heights like IBM, Google, Microsoft, Amazon and Samsung e.g. So yes but is that SI's fault that the game has no competition?

I get your point although I believe different clubs have different set ups so in some clubs the Manager still has complete control so shouldn't that kind of a change be club specific depending on the particular model they have in place. If you go the other way and just make it so the DOF decides at every club then based on your point, that wouldn't be correct either. I am not entirely sure if a DOF is always closer to the board than the manager either, I would have expected a more equal footing with everyone in the recruitment team having a say and then all coming to a decision together.... Have you made any of these suggestions (including the set-piece one) on the Suggestion Page on this forum? Also I don't think Miles is going anywhere any time soon. It's his decision and I don't think he has any intention of handing over control to anyone else. I am also certain that Miles talks to a lot of different specialists every day on ways to improve all aspects of the game. Despite your very valid points, I would also remind that not only is the game exceptional value for money, it is also miles ahead of any of it's competition and has been for many many years.

You can set your DOF to decide on the transfers and then besides the players on your shortlist, you can declare a player as a top target and instruct the dof that you would like to sign this or that player but the dof would handle everything and make the decision and even bring his own targets in and you can do that for the first team, u21's, u18s if you wanted, so you can kind of play the game where the dof decides, or did you mean something else?

In Football Manager 2020, it was released on February 20th at 1.59pm which included the January transfers and there was a further update which included February Transfers on 5th March at 5.57pm but since then they have gone to a 2 update system which includes a main winter update and a last/final winter update: Football Manager 2021: Main Winter Update: 22nd February at 9.45pm Last Winter Update: 15th March at 9.44pm Football Manager 2022: Main Winter Update: 24th February 3.59pm Last Winter Update: 24th March 4.01pm Football Manager 2023: Main Winter Update: ? Last Winter Update: ? This means that if you go by the previous couple of years, the main winter update is already 1 week later than usual.

It's likely to be released tomorrow, just not sure what time. Possibly early to mid evening.