Barrs Posted October 17, 2009 Share Posted October 17, 2009 It might be a thread already, but i just want to know. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilT Posted October 17, 2009 Share Posted October 17, 2009 It might be a thread already, but i just want to know. Yes. Many a time my friend. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barrs Posted October 17, 2009 Author Share Posted October 17, 2009 Yes. Many a time my friend. Is it like watching a real match?? i watch the key highlights. but i will watch a full match in 10 just to see what goes on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thatdude Posted October 17, 2009 Share Posted October 17, 2009 Na can't be bothed Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bardock Posted October 17, 2009 Share Posted October 17, 2009 I do pretty often. I don't get through a season as fast as most, but I like judging players and tactics on the actual match instead of potentially misleading numbers. Also helps me get into the game more. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
saberhagen83 Posted October 17, 2009 Share Posted October 17, 2009 I've given it a go on the demo, FM09 became quite bad after a little while if looking at the full match. But so far I'm quite happy with the ME in FM10. Mostly playing exteded right now though, but I will certainly give the full match a go in the full game I think. Feels much more like a proper football match and with the touchline instructions, it will come well in handy if making decisions on the go as you see the game unfold. Think it will also be easier to spot things compared to playing on extended/key. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wee Aja Posted October 17, 2009 Share Posted October 17, 2009 I used to on FM05 before I realised that virtually everyone else watches in some sort of highlight mode Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colorado Posted October 17, 2009 Share Posted October 17, 2009 Played a season once watching all the games on full. Took a long time but I didn't half get to understand tactics and players better. If you start doing it you realise how much your missing out even by viewing extended highlights. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMister Posted October 17, 2009 Share Posted October 17, 2009 I've been doing it in FM10 for the first time and it's great. Especially for seeing the difference in player actions when you make tactical changes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DietSpam Posted October 17, 2009 Share Posted October 17, 2009 Can't be arsed to watch a full game. Highlights on almost full speed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antigol Posted October 17, 2009 Share Posted October 17, 2009 I always play in full match but get a bit frustrated when I see people playing in high high high speed and winning 7-0 without knowing if their team is playing well or bad. Then I stop playing as i dont see the point in making tactics if other people don't mind about this and win 7-0 7-5 etc. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
englandmanager Posted October 17, 2009 Share Posted October 17, 2009 only in major games cup finals etc otherwise 3/4 speed on key moments Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barrs Posted October 17, 2009 Author Share Posted October 17, 2009 Does anyone know if the players in fm 10 do skills?? i cant dowload the demo at the moment thats why i'm asking. I think im defo going to give the full match mode ago when fm 10 is out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueowl Posted October 17, 2009 Share Posted October 17, 2009 You know what ... I don't think it has even ever entered my mind to sit and watch a FM match for 90 minutes , And for some reason I now am going to do it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fmobande Posted October 17, 2009 Share Posted October 17, 2009 i will definitely do it for FM2010 ill watch full matches because I want a realistic season as possible.I feel this year ill be happy addictive and matches will be more fun to watch since there are less bugs in 09. I couldn't be ass I didn't feel it was right watching a full match since I got it late but 2010 im going to watch full matches going to be fun!!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taytaz Posted October 17, 2009 Share Posted October 17, 2009 I watch it when trying to sort out my tactics, like during my tactical masterstroke (i.e. Fluke) against man united, smashing them 2-0 at Old Trafford (I was West Ham) but usually i just use Extended Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueowl Posted October 17, 2009 Share Posted October 17, 2009 Just watched 90 minutes Crystal Palace (Me) -=vs=- Arsenal in the year 2020. My first season in the prem and wasn't that happy this was my first match to watch 90 minutes of lol, Anyways we won 2-0 and closed them down before they knew what time it was they never seemed to have any real emergency about them until we scored our second ... and by then it was too late . Really makes a difference and I'm sure if I could watch all games for 90 minutes I would have alot more better results. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
arsenal_2111 Posted October 17, 2009 Share Posted October 17, 2009 No, but I once played a 90minute match on FIFA. Won by over 100 goals. I was crazy good at that game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barrs Posted October 17, 2009 Author Share Posted October 17, 2009 Just watched 90 minutes Crystal Palace (Me) -=vs=- Arsenal in the year 2020.My first season in the prem and wasn't that happy this was my first match to watch 90 minutes of lol, Anyways we won 2-0 and closed them down before they knew what time it was they never seemed to have any real emergency about them until we scored our second ... and by then it was too late . Really makes a difference and I'm sure if I could watch all games for 90 minutes I would have alot more better results. dont it get boring? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueowl Posted October 17, 2009 Share Posted October 17, 2009 dont it get boring? Well I had match of the day on the T.V also but no because my team was playing very well and doing most things right. That said I won't watch all matches like that just due to the time it takes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollyh Posted October 17, 2009 Share Posted October 17, 2009 Why would it get boring, its a football match. And anyway I'm pretty sure its not actually 90 minutes, the seconds in FM match time are quicker than actual seconds (or at least in FM09 they were) so its not a complete hour and a half. I've certainly watched quite a few games in full, obviously not all the time because it would literally take months to complete a season but certainly the big games I usually watch in full and extended highlights the rest of the time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spart Posted October 17, 2009 Share Posted October 17, 2009 It's the first thing i did for FM2009 and i'm pretty sure, once i've set up my first proper save on FM2010, i'll be doing the same this year! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
watsonsclarets Posted October 18, 2009 Share Posted October 18, 2009 unfortunatly it all i do maybe i need a anorak i played 5 seasons at burnley and played every game on full match and iam doing doing 2 saves on the demo one full one key only Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barrs Posted October 18, 2009 Author Share Posted October 18, 2009 Why would it get boring, its a football match. And anyway I'm pretty sure its not actually 90 minutes, the seconds in FM match time are quicker than actual seconds (or at least in FM09 they were) so its not a complete hour and a half.I've certainly watched quite a few games in full, obviously not all the time because it would literally take months to complete a season but certainly the big games I usually watch in full and extended highlights the rest of the time. i think the matches are an hour long. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueowl Posted October 18, 2009 Share Posted October 18, 2009 Well it all depends on what speed you have it on .... Think it did take me around one hour with it set 2 notches too the right. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweed Posted October 18, 2009 Share Posted October 18, 2009 Well I guess I'm an extreme minority here as I watch all of my games out in full 90 minutes and have since I started playing FM with version 2006. I'm from the US and knew nothing about football until I started playing FM. I watched full matches as a way to learn both FM and real football. At the same time I started watching matches on tv here in the States on the Fox Soccer Channel to try to educate myself about the beautiful game. I continue to watch full matches now in FM as it's the only way I feel connected to my squad. Does it take longer to play seasons? Certainly but I'm in no hurry, I want to enjoy the experience. Barrs asked if it gets boring? Being from the US I find the question kind of funny. Most people in the States use the argument that soccer\football isn't a great sport because it is boring. Bunch of guys kicking a ball around a big field until one team wins 1-0. Hell, I thought this was true through the first 45 years of my life until I started playing FM, now I know better:thup:. To answer Barrs question I would say no it never gets boring, it is a football game and it is as exciting to watch as any game I watch on tv. I get the "I don't have time to watch full matches" as I have a real life, work, family etc. I don't get "watching a full match of football is boring". Of course that's just my opinion, your mileage may vary:) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antigol Posted October 18, 2009 Share Posted October 18, 2009 Sweed , i agree with you that you feel more connected with your squad if you watch the match. If the ME is well done, you won't get bored. But sometimes I feell that it is the same to watch the match or not as too many people win matches only playing in "Highlights" how do they know how their players have played?? and how to correct those mistakes?? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blanchflower1 Posted October 18, 2009 Share Posted October 18, 2009 I only do this for major matches! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dsch Posted October 18, 2009 Share Posted October 18, 2009 Well I guess I'm an extreme minority here as I watch all of my games out in full 90 minutes and have since I started playing FM with version 2006.I'm from the US and knew nothing about football until I started playing FM. I watched full matches as a way to learn both FM and real football. At the same time I started watching matches on tv here in the States on the Fox Soccer Channel to try to educate myself about the beautiful game. I continue to watch full matches now in FM as it's the only way I feel connected to my squad. Does it take longer to play seasons? Certainly but I'm in no hurry, I want to enjoy the experience. Barrs asked if it gets boring? Being from the US I find the question kind of funny. Most people in the States use the argument that soccer\football isn't a great sport because it is boring. Bunch of guys kicking a ball around a big field until one team wins 1-0. Hell, I thought this was true through the first 45 years of my life until I started playing FM, now I know better:thup:. To answer Barrs question I would say no it never gets boring, it is a football game and it is as exciting to watch as any game I watch on tv. I get the "I don't have time to watch full matches" as I have a real life, work, family etc. I don't get "watching a full match of football is boring". Of course that's just my opinion, your mileage may vary:) Considering there isn't much in Iowa but fields Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saxonaitor Posted October 18, 2009 Share Posted October 18, 2009 Well I guess I'm an extreme minority here as I watch all of my games out in full 90 minutes and have since I started playing FM with version 2006.I'm from the US and knew nothing about football until I started playing FM. I watched full matches as a way to learn both FM and real football. At the same time I started watching matches on tv here in the States on the Fox Soccer Channel to try to educate myself about the beautiful game. I continue to watch full matches now in FM as it's the only way I feel connected to my squad. Does it take longer to play seasons? Certainly but I'm in no hurry, I want to enjoy the experience. Barrs asked if it gets boring? Being from the US I find the question kind of funny. Most people in the States use the argument that soccer\football isn't a great sport because it is boring. Bunch of guys kicking a ball around a big field until one team wins 1-0. Hell, I thought this was true through the first 45 years of my life until I started playing FM, now I know better:thup:. To answer Barrs question I would say no it never gets boring, it is a football game and it is as exciting to watch as any game I watch on tv. I get the "I don't have time to watch full matches" as I have a real life, work, family etc. I don't get "watching a full match of football is boring". Of course that's just my opinion, your mileage may vary:) This is what I do but I do sometimes use highlights for Champions league finals (which i'm not in) and other big games.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
12thMonkey Posted October 18, 2009 Share Posted October 18, 2009 So far every game I've played has been in full match view. I don't watch the match in normal speed, though, and typically have it so that it takes about a half hour or so play out a game, including subs and tactical changes and whatnot. I find this does two things for me: I know a lot more about what's going on in a match than if I'm just watching extended highlights. The last game my assistant manager swore up and down we were having a bad game... but I was watching and I knew things were exactly as I wanted them. It was a slow, defensive match in the rain, and by watching I was perfectly happy with what was going on, and we won. I can also spot trends this way that help me make tactical decisions before they become a highlight problem. For instance, also in the last game, I had one midfielder tossing the ball to the opposition too much, and I saw it pretty soon and he found the bench. Had I been playing on only highlights, there's no telling how that could have ended up. Possibly I wouldn't have noticed until the first highlight of an opposition midfielder plucking the ball and making a scoring pass. The second thing this does it it makes it really feel like a match to me. There's no buildup or excitement if you play it on highlights and the thing is done in three minutes. Yeah, I have to invest 20 or 30 minutes for every match, but it feels like big deal when every one rolls around. Just like waiting for a week for the big game, I do all the weekly prep work and then... wow, here's the match. Great fun. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KevinThomson'1 Posted October 18, 2009 Share Posted October 18, 2009 Key Moments not like you actually care anyway .. trying to get posts up by any chance ?? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikke Posted October 18, 2009 Share Posted October 18, 2009 I've always watched full matches ever since there has been any kind of 2d presentation. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carl Posted October 18, 2009 Share Posted October 18, 2009 Mikke, how many seasons do you play then before the next FM comes out? 2?3? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SmurfDude Posted October 18, 2009 Share Posted October 18, 2009 Watching a full match opens your eyes to what the ME really is like. Highlights sometimes give the wrong impression because you'll constantly see missed long shots or through balls where the striker misses. So you then instantly think that it is always happening, when in reality if you watch the full match you'll see that isn't the case and there's a lot of variety in there Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Macklam Posted October 18, 2009 Share Posted October 18, 2009 I've never done that personally but with how good the new ME is it might be worth a look at. Now I know this is getting people to look at a thread I made but, what camera angle would be best for a 90 minute evaluation of a FM game? http://community.sigames.com/showthread.php?t=154880 There are so many to choose from I would say for a proper look at your tactics for 90 minutes the Vertical Scrolling at you get to most of the pitch from a great angle. In this way it's not about how good the graphics are it's the getting the most out of your tactics and understanding them better. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikke Posted October 18, 2009 Share Posted October 18, 2009 Mikke, how many seasons do you play then before the next FM comes out? 2?3?More than enough. Due to the nature of my work I can get through a season in two weeks max, easily. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barrs Posted October 18, 2009 Author Share Posted October 18, 2009 Well I guess I'm an extreme minority here as I watch all of my games out in full 90 minutes and have since I started playing FM with version 2006.I'm from the US and knew nothing about football until I started playing FM. I watched full matches as a way to learn both FM and real football. At the same time I started watching matches on tv here in the States on the Fox Soccer Channel to try to educate myself about the beautiful game. I continue to watch full matches now in FM as it's the only way I feel connected to my squad. Does it take longer to play seasons? Certainly but I'm in no hurry, I want to enjoy the experience. Barrs asked if it gets boring? Being from the US I find the question kind of funny. Most people in the States use the argument that soccer\football isn't a great sport because it is boring. Bunch of guys kicking a ball around a big field until one team wins 1-0. Hell, I thought this was true through the first 45 years of my life until I started playing FM, now I know better:thup:. To answer Barrs question I would say no it never gets boring, it is a football game and it is as exciting to watch as any game I watch on tv. I get the "I don't have time to watch full matches" as I have a real life, work, family etc. I don't get "watching a full match of football is boring". Of course that's just my opinion, your mileage may vary:) mate football never gets boring, i watch football most of the time. but fm is a game it's not real, the players dont have a brain it's all done by computer, im not coating the game off i love the game thats why i asked. isit good watching a 90 min match with people with no brains, or you could just watch key moments in the match and it will all work out the same or will it, i dont no. But i will give fm 10 ago on the full match mode. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jdz Posted October 18, 2009 Share Posted October 18, 2009 Extended highlights for me, usually makes for a 10-15 minute match and gives me a good feel for the game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wizard boy Posted October 18, 2009 Share Posted October 18, 2009 Im watching a full game at the moment. the games don`t take that long to finish anyway. i find it better watching some in full, not all of them just the more important ones, to see how my players are performing as well seeing if my tactics need tweaking. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackcat Posted October 19, 2009 Share Posted October 19, 2009 Normally watch extended highlights, but after reading this thread i tried 'full match' and will not now be going back to extended highlights. The full match experience is great if you want the full experience of 'managing' a football club. If you want the arcade sensation then there are other titles that may be more suitable. This is a 'management' game and from now on it's full game for me, in the last game i watched things like a player putting the ball out for a throw, in order that an injured player got treatment, and then watched as the team taking the throw pass back to the opposition, just like reality. I saw a goalkeeper come out of his area and head the ball...loads of other incidents that you will miss with speeded up highlights. These things make this the best incarnation of a mangement game to date. I even made an enquiry for an opposition full back after watching him do well against my star winger, probably wouldn't have noticed just from stats etc. Great game SI and i thank you. Incidently, the full games take between 20-25 mins per half at realistic speed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barrs Posted October 19, 2009 Author Share Posted October 19, 2009 Normally watch extended highlights, but after reading this thread i tried 'full match' and will not now be going back to extended highlights. The full match experience is great if you want the full experience of 'managing' a football club. If you want the arcade sensation then there are other titles that may be more suitable. This is a 'management' game and from now on it's full game for me, in the last game i watched things like a player putting the ball out for a throw, in order that an injured player got treatment, and then watched as the team taking the throw pass back to the opposition, just like reality. I saw a goalkeeper come out of his area and head the ball...loads of other incidents that you will miss with speeded up highlights. These things make this the best incarnation of a mangement game to date. I even made an enquiry for an opposition full back after watching him do well against my star winger, probably wouldn't have noticed just from stats etc. Great game SI and i thank you.Incidently, the full games take between 20-25 mins per half at realistic speed. Defo is much better watching in full match mode i have to say, like you said about stuff you miss out on.your watching full match mode now, haha i should be thanked for the tread lol only joking Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freedman10 Posted October 20, 2009 Share Posted October 20, 2009 I always watch the full game, not least because I find the match ratings are often unreliable. Sometimes I'll think a player has had a stormer and done exactly what I wanted him to do, and he gets 6.3. Then another player hardly has a kick and then scores a tap in at the death and gets 7.1. If I was to pick my team based on average ratings it would be very different, I'll often pick a player with a lower average rating and attributes because from watching the game I thought he performed better. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alimac Posted October 20, 2009 Share Posted October 20, 2009 I watch every game in full detail too. It's the only way you can really see the shape of the game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
anthony wright Posted October 20, 2009 Share Posted October 20, 2009 I always watch the full game, not least because I find the match ratings are often unreliable. Sometimes I'll think a player has had a stormer and done exactly what I wanted him to do, and he gets 6.3. Then another player hardly has a kick and then scores a tap in at the death and gets 7.1. If I was to pick my team based on average ratings it would be very different, I'll often pick a player with a lower average rating and attributes because from watching the game I thought he performed better. Fully agree with you on the match ratings. I always watch full match on normal speed I don't know how you can make the correct decisions just watching highlights. The match takes about an hour because when the ball is not in play the clock moves on. In fact I watch the game twice once in 3D and then analise it again in 2D Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gunner86 Posted October 20, 2009 Share Posted October 20, 2009 I must say, not once have I ever, EVER been tempted to watch the full match as it always seemed like such a huge drain on the resource that is time. However, having read some of the comments here, I must say that when I get in from work tonight the first thing I shall do is watch a full game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barrs Posted October 20, 2009 Author Share Posted October 20, 2009 I must say, not once have I ever, EVER been tempted to watch the full match as it always seemed like such a huge drain on the resource that is time. However, having read some of the comments here, I must say that when I get in from work tonight the first thing I shall do is watch a full game. What did you think? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BamaToon Posted October 21, 2009 Share Posted October 21, 2009 I watch important matches in full match mode (cup finals, playoffs, etc). Usually I watch just highlights or even sim the match if I don't feel like messing with it. One thing I miss about the older versions is the ability to fly through seasons. I really enjoy scouting and signing new talent and seeing how they develop much more than I do the actual matches. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bennico Posted October 22, 2009 Share Posted October 22, 2009 I wouldn't dream of watching a game in anything other than Full Match Mode. I've used this example before in similar previous topics: Can you imagine a real life Football Manager, saying to his assistant; "Hey, Ass man, I'm just popping up to the bar for bit mate, give me a shout in my ear-piece if there's any interesting highlights, or anything you spot that's going wrong, and I'll run back down and see if I can figure out what to do". As has been mentioned in this topic already, there is so much that you miss out on, if you're not seeing the whole game. When watching the full match, you get to study your players' positioning, see how your centre backs are handling the opposition's strikeforce, and make any adjustments that may be necessary, before you have to watch your 'keeper fishing the ball out of your net when the "key highlight" of it comes up; and enjoy their aerial dominance, crunching tackles, and classy interceptions that you would miss, if only watching a highlights package. You can study how your tactics are shaping up against the opposition, and you are in the right place to notice anything that is going wrong, and make the appropriate changes, before they end up hurting you. For example, on full match mode, you may notice that their tricky winger is getting in behind your full back, and causing you problems, and you can do something about it, before you see the "highlight" of him racing free to the byline, and providing a cross that ends up in the back of your net. There are just so many things, that you don't see in the highlights packages. And, I also just love to sit and enjoy my fluent brand of attractive, attacking possession football; and listen to the added pleasure of my Sound Pack. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alimac Posted October 22, 2009 Share Posted October 22, 2009 Absolutely! Would be a tragedy not to make the most of your fantastic soundpack Benni! It really does make a big difference when watching in full mode. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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