Darandio Posted June 9, 2011 Share Posted June 9, 2011 I have seen several threads over the years, on various forums that have wanted to replicate past times, but some get abandoned simply because it is a lot of hard work and equally, some see the light of day. That is why I decided to do one, primarily for myself, being a long time user of the original Championship Manager series on the Amiga, I wanted to go back and relive those happy days. As I said, it's primarily for myself and I did a hell of a lot of groundwork and research to make sure it resembles the era as much as I possibly can. However, I have now decided to start showing parts of the database to you, mainly as an interest point for us "older" members who either played earlier versions with these players, or remember watching the players themselves. Changes made include players and staff (quite obvious!), a complete overhaul of the financial structure including accurate TV and prize money for 1992/93. It may surprise people that in the inaugural year of the Premier League, the champions received £815,210. These days, you can get relegated and receive more! Also added are accurate player histories, from the actual years they have played up until 1992. This obviously doesn't tally with the 2010 start date but gives an accurate career reflection and makes the biographies accurate. Obviously, there are pitfalls with the project as when trying to make players as realistic as possible, the ratings reflect modern transfer values but I have tried to stem it as much as possible. Another major pitfall is the starting year, which is 2010 but although hard, I can ignore it. The following screenshots have concentrated on Arsenal as it is the club that is as good as complete, although I have got players included across the whole league at the moment, its just a case of going through each club and completing the process. The eagle eyed will see Perry Groves in the Arsenal squad as he didn't move to Southampton until near the end of August. I am in two minds whether to set that up as a future transfer. If anyone does have a request to see a player from the Premier League, in the era, I'll try to do it providing the player is done. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darandio Posted June 9, 2011 Author Share Posted June 9, 2011 I have also been adding various players from abroad, much in the vein of how it was in CM93/94. Here we have Gascoigne at Lazio, still out injured from the 1991 FA Cup final but on the road to recovery. He did make his Lazio debut on 27 September so he might still be on course for that. What is interesting is the value, this has no input from me but with the stats he has been given, it's strangely valued him at the exact price he was signed for. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super-Man Posted June 9, 2011 Share Posted June 9, 2011 good luck with this Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AstonVilla4Life Posted June 9, 2011 Share Posted June 9, 2011 Quality mate! Looking forward to your Aston Villa team! Good luck with this! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darandio Posted June 9, 2011 Author Share Posted June 9, 2011 Thanks guys. Aston Villa you say? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
the-div Posted June 9, 2011 Share Posted June 9, 2011 Any chance of you doing a Rangers team mate? We got to the Champions League semi that year and imo should have won it. We were also arguably the best team in Britain then too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
moon_goat Posted June 9, 2011 Share Posted June 9, 2011 Most people doing these databases massively overrate their favourite players - good to see you've remained objective! You done any of the Man United players or Ajax? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darandio Posted June 9, 2011 Author Share Posted June 9, 2011 Any chance of you doing a Rangers team mate? We got to the Champions League semi that year and imo should have won it. We were also arguably the best team in Britain then too. No plans for that at the moment I am afraid, I just want to get the Premier League done initially which is going to take a while. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darandio Posted June 9, 2011 Author Share Posted June 9, 2011 Most people doing these databases massively overrate their favourite players - good to see you've remained objective!You done any of the Man United players or Ajax? Yes, there is no room for sentiment here! Part of my own "brief" for doing it for myself was to remain objective and try and capture the league as it was in that year, over-rating players just wouldn't achieve it. I have done several of the Man Utd players but the full squad and club structure is not finished. Likewise with Ajax, some players are complete but the full club won't be done. However, several key players will be included to enable them for purchase. Mind you, when I say key players at Ajax, pretty much the whole team was key around this period! If you have any requests for players, I would be happy to show them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
futre Posted June 9, 2011 Share Posted June 9, 2011 Hi Darandio, Nice work. Do you need any help with other 1992/93 teams outside England ? Good luck for your project! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
moon_goat Posted June 9, 2011 Share Posted June 9, 2011 I wanna see most of the Ajax team really, Bergkamp, Davids, Overmars (think he was there at that time), Litmanen, Kluivert (would have been like 16 i think at that time) Also Cantona while he was at Leeds if that's possible I know it's a lot, but thanks Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darandio Posted June 9, 2011 Author Share Posted June 9, 2011 I haven't got the majority of Ajax players done at the moment, but I do have a young Overmars as well as Cantona. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Made Of Stone Posted June 9, 2011 Share Posted June 9, 2011 Looks awesome, however I would say that Cantona looks a tad too old, he was only just turning 31 when he announced his retirement in 1997. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darandio Posted June 9, 2011 Author Share Posted June 9, 2011 Yes, he is, sorry. He should only be 26. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeLatics Posted June 9, 2011 Share Posted June 9, 2011 Excellent project. I'll be looking forward to trying to recreate Oldham's glory years, and see if I can do even better than Big Joe Royle! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AstonVilla4Life Posted June 10, 2011 Share Posted June 10, 2011 Quality Villa team mate! I said it before but Good luck with this project and Im really looking forward to playing it! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MorrisseyMuse Posted June 10, 2011 Share Posted June 10, 2011 This is looking great so far Darandio! I had thought about doing a '1st season of the Premiership'-type 'retro update' like this myself not too long ago, but the huge amount of work involved put me off in the end, so you have my kudos! How are ya managing to balance player's attributes without their CA/PA completely changing them? It drove me mad! If you're asking for requests though, I'd love to see my beloved Manchester City in all their nostalgic glory.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
King_Kenny Posted June 10, 2011 Share Posted June 10, 2011 This looks really good mate. Keep it up and I'll consider you for a knighthood. Sir Darandio has a very nice ring to it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nik_Dut Posted June 10, 2011 Share Posted June 10, 2011 I would love to see AC Milan squad. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gizzy Posted June 10, 2011 Share Posted June 10, 2011 looks good, will be keeping an eye on this. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darandio Posted June 10, 2011 Author Share Posted June 10, 2011 How are ya managing to balance player's attributes without their CA/PA completely changing them? It drove me mad! Weeks (maybe months) of painstaking research, to find a balance in comparison to how the game works with players from today using data from 1992/93, including referencing CM93/94 (Surprisingly!) Thankyou for all the comments, its very encouraging. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
letissierandhenryaregreat Posted June 10, 2011 Share Posted June 10, 2011 Have you included Southampton in this database? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darandio Posted June 10, 2011 Author Share Posted June 10, 2011 Yes, they will be in, "Le God" included. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lenzar Posted June 10, 2011 Share Posted June 10, 2011 A little cosmetic question - will you be using squad numbers as they didn't appear until the Coca-Cup Final, despite the Greed League starting this year. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darandio Posted June 10, 2011 Author Share Posted June 10, 2011 No, no squad numbers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ggSprutch Posted June 11, 2011 Share Posted June 11, 2011 Are you also planning to create the rule that limited clubs to only use 3 foreigners per game? I think it's crucial for this kind of database, otherwise, every club will just start buying lots of foreigners again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
McRichie Posted June 12, 2011 Share Posted June 12, 2011 Any chance of seeing the Saints squad as they are at the moment please fella? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bennymc Posted June 12, 2011 Share Posted June 12, 2011 Darandio, this is a wonderful idea, and I wish you the best of luck with it. It's this sort of thing from dedicated, perfectionist type, heavy research based FMers that I was hoping to see more of when database editing started, so thanks for doing this!! I made a Man United 93-94 which I could send to you if you'd like, but I expect you're more than covered since you seem to be striving for as much realism as possible, as I was too! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark b Posted June 15, 2011 Share Posted June 15, 2011 I wish you all the luck with this. This will be an absolutley amazing DB when complete - one of the best! Any chance of a 'Steve Mcmanaman' screenshot, if complete? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SM1985 Posted June 15, 2011 Share Posted June 15, 2011 sounds like a great idea...I definitely think there should be special edition of FM released focussing on a particular year...good luck Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThaDon Posted June 15, 2011 Share Posted June 15, 2011 Any chance of you doing a Rangers team mate? We got to the Champions League semi that year and imo should have won it. We were also arguably the best team in Britain then too. As soon as i seen the name of thread i hoped for a Rangers team and one deserving of the team we had then and not reflecting the state of our league now. I would love to see that team made, but i know it's a lot of work, i've done this kinda of thing myself before. I usually download others and then sit and go over Rangers and the Scottish league myself. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CMdan44 Posted July 15, 2011 Share Posted July 15, 2011 Hey, is it possible to get a look at the Sheffield Wednesday squad? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Drama Posted July 15, 2011 Share Posted July 15, 2011 Sounds good mate, any chance of seeing the Norwich squad? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ori Posted July 17, 2011 Share Posted July 17, 2011 Looks Fantastic mate, any chance of Giggsy's Profile? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IMT Posted July 17, 2011 Share Posted July 17, 2011 I'd look forward to seeing this in its full glory, 92-93 the best ever Norwich side Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotty1974 Posted July 17, 2011 Share Posted July 17, 2011 anychance of a beta mate, would like to see it as it is just now Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pret Posted July 18, 2011 Share Posted July 18, 2011 Yeah wouldn't mind anything being uploaded at the moment, just to have a look at it all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeLatics Posted July 22, 2011 Share Posted July 22, 2011 How long do you reckon this is gonna take? (Roughly - days, weeks, months?) Wondering whether it's worth starting another game now before you bring the DB out! KUTGW! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valo Posted July 22, 2011 Share Posted July 22, 2011 Looking forward to seeing Leeds' title defending team. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Llew_Arshavin23 Posted July 22, 2011 Share Posted July 22, 2011 WOW! This is quite a Good project Good Luck mate. The Mighty Alan Smith, what a player! EDIT: Before I forget, any chance of a pip at Ian Wright? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeLatics Posted July 23, 2011 Share Posted July 23, 2011 How about a look at the mighty Roger Palmer, when you get a minute?? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nottingham Forest Posted July 23, 2011 Share Posted July 23, 2011 You do realise that Darandio hasn't been online since the 11th of June. Which was about five or so days before the forum went down. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
braddockmatt Posted July 26, 2011 Share Posted July 26, 2011 Looks awesome mate. I am currently creating a 1995/1996 database. its taking a long time, but i am getting through it as much as possible, how long do you think it will be until you realese your db ??? also any chance to see the derby team ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
braddockmatt Posted July 26, 2011 Share Posted July 26, 2011 just a quickie. how you getting your information for the squads ?? and information about teams ( inc staff) etc. any help will be great. Cheers Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MorrisseyMuse Posted July 26, 2011 Share Posted July 26, 2011 Looks awesome mate. I am currently creating a 1995/1996 database. its taking a long time, but i am getting through it as much as possible, how long do you think it will be until you realese your db ??? also any chance to see the derby team ? I'd looked into doing a 95/96 season update myself in recent times but that blasted stats-to-CA/PA balance drove me round the bend in the finish. lol Shame, as I did manage to get a half decent, balanced Cantona and Kinkladze.. Hopefully Darandio will surface again soon, the editing community can only benefit from the diversity and moments of nostalga (City had no money, but we had our Kinkladze! ) that these retro updates bring. That and the challenge of changing history of course.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
braddockmatt Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 Im doing ok with the CA/PA 's (i think) so far, but it is a lot of work. it takes me about a day to complete one team, because i want to do it as accurate as i can, i got books and the web to give me in depth information on the club im doing. ie, chairman and the directors of the club at the time of 1995, also moving clubs back to their old grounds, I'm also looking to include facepacks/club kits from 1995/96/logos from 1995/96/old stadium background pics. etc. I really want to make it as real as possible. well anyway, got to keep plugging on ..... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pret Posted July 29, 2011 Share Posted July 29, 2011 If I were you I'd do the essential stuff first (players/squads), release a version that people can edit as they want, whilst you carry on with making it more detailed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rimm! Posted August 2, 2011 Share Posted August 2, 2011 will you be changing chairmen etc, to stop man city spending loads? also will you be changing the squads of the lower league teams? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
braddockmatt Posted August 4, 2011 Share Posted August 4, 2011 i dont no if this is directed at my database of 1995/96 but yes i will be changing chairman/directors etc and also turning recent richer clubs back to were they were in 1995. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pret Posted August 5, 2011 Share Posted August 5, 2011 Excellent! How much have you done? No chance of uploading a beta/preview for us to look at? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Archived
This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.