Falahk Posted May 22, 2012 Share Posted May 22, 2012 I hate diving footballers but didn't mind too much when Drogba did it to Barcelona because they are in my opinion the biggest cheats in football Busquets is a disgrace and his cheating attitude is far worse for football then playing defensive. Alves is a diving cheat and so is Sanchez, they constantly surround the referee trying to get players booked and sent off. Sure Barcelona play nice football but they also lack a plan b and as with Bayern it wasn't Chelsea's fault that Messi crumbled under the pressure and missed his penalty and not their fault that Barca failed to take several of their chances. wait what? if you really think that you need to watch more football, and also, the diving, surround the referee and such IS there plan b, when the regular stuff dont work out the way they wish it to as for Alves, he learned from the masters of the craft long before he joined Barcelona Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AcidBurn Posted May 22, 2012 Share Posted May 22, 2012 Alves has always been a creep. Is there a team that cheats more than them? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
heathxxx Posted May 22, 2012 Share Posted May 22, 2012 One word... Sevilla. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falahk Posted May 22, 2012 Share Posted May 22, 2012 listen to heath, he knows Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
heathxxx Posted May 22, 2012 Share Posted May 22, 2012 Watch a match featuring Sevilla, you'll be sure there's snipers in the crowd. Add the fictitious card waving antics... urgh... despicable team. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AcidBurn Posted May 22, 2012 Share Posted May 22, 2012 I have seen a few Sevilla matches this season and I still hate Barcelona more. Snipers in the crowd, good idea. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Purefun Posted May 23, 2012 Author Share Posted May 23, 2012 Granada is even worse!!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gechal Posted May 23, 2012 Share Posted May 23, 2012 When Inter won the CL playing in a similar way, I do not remember there being this much of a backlash but rather people said it was brilliant tactics by Mourinho and the same goes for Di Matteo imo. Chelsea adapted to both Barca's and Bayern's game plan and neither of them had an effective plan B. Jesus all this plan b talk- look at the statistics, the clear cut chances, the penaltys both barca and Bayern had, their plan A's worked pretty well. Just freakish good luck for Chelsea , they should have been buried long ago. No one would be saying how brilliant their tactics were if barca or Bayern had taken just a fraction of their chances. Football history is decided by the thinnest of margins. football makes me sick most of the time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeBainborough Posted May 23, 2012 Share Posted May 23, 2012 Jesus all this plan b talk- look at the statistics, the clear cut chances, the penaltys both barca and Bayern had, their plan A's worked pretty well. Just freakish good luck for Chelsea , they should have been buried long ago. No one would be saying how brilliant their tactics were if barca or Bayern had taken just a fraction of their chances. Football history is decided by the thinnest of margins. football makes me sick most of the time. But by sitting on the edge of their box throughout the games, they restricted Barca and Bayern, meaning they didn't have a particularly large number of clear cut chances. Fair enough, there will have been a few, and the fact Messi missed his penalty was a touch of luck, but you need luck to win a tournament. They made it as difficult as possible for the opposition to score, whilst posing a threat on the counter attack, it's just basic tactics of how to play when you know your going to be outplayed. Why would you attack, sending players forward when you know that players such as Xavi, Iniesta and Messi for Barca, or Robben, Ribery and say, Schweinsteiger for Bayern will carve your defence open in a counter attack? That's just plain stupid. By dropping deep, they eliminate the space in behind and the only way through is through small, intricate passes, crosses, or long shots. Chelsea analysed the situations well, played to their strengths, and deservedly won the tournament. Defending is an art as well as attacking, you know. Just less entertaining to watch. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gechal Posted May 23, 2012 Share Posted May 23, 2012 I didn't say playing defensive football isn't a valid tactic. You say luck plays a part, I think Chelsea took liberties in that department. Ive never seen anything like it. They conceded too many chances, and logic says they should have been beaten. This cup run defied all logic. I don't think they even defended that well, sat back and relied in throwing themselves in front of the ball. It shouldn't come to that. I think it was Baresi who said something like , if as a defender, you are having to make tackles, then you are not doing your job properly. They could have restricted the opponents chances better, in fact I don't think they did that at all. Hugely lucky. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthernGooner Posted May 23, 2012 Share Posted May 23, 2012 Being an Arsenal fan, I love the attacking football we play, but trust me it is so frustrating at times. I would gladly swap our attacking football to play like Chelsea, good at defending and counter-attacking if it meant us winning trophies. I don't mind if we win 1-0 just as long as we win I don't care how. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mayzie Posted May 23, 2012 Share Posted May 23, 2012 This sun needs to sod off, I can't afford to be tempted to the pub after work every night. Bit of a change of conversation from the griping about Chelsea, but I ordered six cd's off Play.com last week, they turned up yesterday & every single case is cracked ffs. Loving Foster The People atm. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
heathxxx Posted May 23, 2012 Share Posted May 23, 2012 Granada is even worse!!! Only Dani Benítez... and he's not coming back next season. May soon be at an English club... so that will be fun! Meanwhile... summer transfer window. Yes, it's "silly season" once more. Rumours and speculation in abundance. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Purefun Posted May 23, 2012 Author Share Posted May 23, 2012 Meh the final is finished. Who will win the Euro's though? Belgium? No. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nottingham Forest Posted May 23, 2012 Share Posted May 23, 2012 Forest shall sign no one. Despite their being lots of good free agents this summer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
heathxxx Posted May 23, 2012 Share Posted May 23, 2012 I've a feeling that it'll be Germany who'll win the Euro's. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Purefun Posted May 24, 2012 Author Share Posted May 24, 2012 Them and Spain are indeed the main contestants imo. But then again we could have a Greece scenario. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ty Posted May 24, 2012 Share Posted May 24, 2012 Have you have just woken up Purefun?! I haven't been to bed yet, messy Wednesday Not going to sleep now and doss in the sun in a couple hours! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShirazS Posted May 24, 2012 Share Posted May 24, 2012 I've a feeling that it'll be Germany who'll win the Euro's. Indeed. Most of their players have had good seasons domestically and they have a lot of depth in most positions except maybe Striker. Also, they are usually the freshest of the big teams in these tournaments due to their winter break. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nottingham Forest Posted May 24, 2012 Share Posted May 24, 2012 This heat is getting on my nerves. The sun I can take, but this heat I can't. It's making me tired and uncomfortable . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gechal Posted May 24, 2012 Share Posted May 24, 2012 its too hot. we need some rain to break it up Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nottingham Forest Posted May 24, 2012 Share Posted May 24, 2012 Nah, I don't want no rain, just for a bit of a breeze to come. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
heathxxx Posted May 24, 2012 Share Posted May 24, 2012 You'd hate it in Spain then. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gechal Posted May 25, 2012 Share Posted May 25, 2012 It's the humidity that gets you. It's hot, but not nice Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Purefun Posted May 25, 2012 Author Share Posted May 25, 2012 Love this weather. I would like Spain. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mayzie Posted May 25, 2012 Share Posted May 25, 2012 Love this weather if we had aircon in the office, instead I get to sit in a sweatpit staring out at the sun. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomtuck01 Posted May 25, 2012 Share Posted May 25, 2012 I see this place has died a death without me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nottingham Forest Posted May 25, 2012 Share Posted May 25, 2012 I can't seem to find the league reset date thread for FM. Would anyone know what forum it's in or would they kindly tell me the reset date for Belgium please? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Purefun Posted May 25, 2012 Author Share Posted May 25, 2012 It has Tom. I blame Ty. How was your holiday mate? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomtuck01 Posted May 25, 2012 Share Posted May 25, 2012 It has Tom. I blame Ty.How was your holiday mate? Hot and drunken sums it up pretty well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Purefun Posted May 25, 2012 Author Share Posted May 25, 2012 Good stuff. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gizmo7 Posted May 27, 2012 Share Posted May 27, 2012 I'm going to be outrageous here and predict that Spain won't get out of their group. I can see Italy going through, and Ireland scraping it in that group. I think Germany will win the whole thing, and england will get knocked out in controversial fashion somehow again. ---- Also, I absolutely love this weather Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe__the__man Posted May 27, 2012 Share Posted May 27, 2012 Yeah can see Spain failing as well. No Villa, no Soldado, no Adrian, Pedro hasn't played well this season, Llorente has played poorly recently, can't see where their goals are gonna come from. Still think they'll make the semis though hah. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gizmo7 Posted May 27, 2012 Share Posted May 27, 2012 I want to place a bet on it, but don't really know how to :o I normally only do accumulators which is just ticking boxes, not sure how I'd bet on Spain to not get out of the groups though :/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomtuck01 Posted May 28, 2012 Share Posted May 28, 2012 Using money is the best way. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
heathxxx Posted May 28, 2012 Share Posted May 28, 2012 Visiting a bookmaker is another good idea. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Purefun Posted May 29, 2012 Author Share Posted May 29, 2012 Or just give your money to me? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
heathxxx Posted May 29, 2012 Share Posted May 29, 2012 Purefun's suggestion wins. (Including my cut, of course ) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Purefun Posted May 30, 2012 Author Share Posted May 30, 2012 Of course it does. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomtuck01 Posted May 30, 2012 Share Posted May 30, 2012 Kagawa Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Purefun Posted May 30, 2012 Author Share Posted May 30, 2012 How much did ManU pay for him? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomtuck01 Posted May 30, 2012 Share Posted May 30, 2012 How much did ManU pay for him? Isn't completed yet. Fee agreed in principle of £12million, rising to £17million depending on variou clauses. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cleon Posted May 30, 2012 Share Posted May 30, 2012 Isn't completed yet. Fee agreed in principle of £12million, rising to £17million depending on variou clauses. Bargain price, he'll set the EPL on fire. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomtuck01 Posted May 30, 2012 Share Posted May 30, 2012 Bargain price, he'll set the EPL on fire. Indeed he's a very good player, but with one year left on his contract it's a lot of money. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cleon Posted May 30, 2012 Share Posted May 30, 2012 Indeed he's a very good player, but with one year left on his contract it's a lot of money. He'd have cost around £30-40 mill though if not. Snippet of a price really. Now go and get Cabaye and the league is yours Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomtuck01 Posted May 30, 2012 Share Posted May 30, 2012 Would prefer Cheick Tiote. We've needed a proper holder in the middle of the park to put a foot in for years. Although Fletcher does an excellent job, he's more of a box-to-box player. And frankly, who knows what he's going to be like when/if he returns. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AcidBurn Posted May 30, 2012 Share Posted May 30, 2012 I hope Man United sign Nick Powell Crewe need some decent cash. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
heathxxx Posted May 30, 2012 Share Posted May 30, 2012 I'd like to see United sign a good destroyer in midfield, sat behind the creative players. Can't really say anyone's deserved that title, since Keano left. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gechal Posted May 30, 2012 Share Posted May 30, 2012 Id like to see united get relegated Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
heathxxx Posted May 30, 2012 Share Posted May 30, 2012 Bloody quiet in here these days... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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