jamez_b Posted November 7, 2013 Share Posted November 7, 2013 I am trying to create a Central European league in Germany. I have a top bundesliga containing the current 18 Bundesliga teams as well as Koln and Kaiserlautern. The second tier is then made up of 6 regional divisions, Germany (16 teams), Poland(20 teams), Austria(20 teams), Hungary(20 Teams), Czechoslovakia(20 teams) and Romania(20 teams). The idea is that each season 4 are relegated from the top Bundesliga and there is a a promotion playoff containing the top 4 from each of the 6 regional divisions with the 4 eventual winners getting promoted. The promotion part seems to be working fine however i can't get the relegation to work properly. I have set up regional divisions for all teams to the respective league they should be relegated however when relegated the teams just replace the team that has been promoted. i.e i now have Koln playing in the Austrian regional league and Kaiserslautern in the Romanian. I have tried setting the number of allowed teams for the regional teams to range from 4 to 36, just in case the german teams either all massively over/under perform, however this doesn't seem to fix it. Do you know how I can stop this happening and ensure that the German teams get relegated to the German regional division at the end of the first season? Help would be really appreciated. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sporadicsmiles Posted November 11, 2013 Share Posted November 11, 2013 Have you set regional boundaries for your regional leagues? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjohansen Posted November 11, 2013 Share Posted November 11, 2013 I have asked this before and was told it was impossible to force certain teams to regain their regions at all costs - with the use of maximum/minimum teams of a region. But if it is possible, I would love the solution. What other use can that attribut have? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamez_b Posted November 11, 2013 Author Share Posted November 11, 2013 Thanks for the reply, but how would you go about setting these? I think i've seen this somewhere in the editor before but can't remember where exactly. Is it a case of having to establish the longitude and latitude for each division? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KUBI Posted November 11, 2013 Share Posted November 11, 2013 There are two ways, setting the regional boundaries for all divisions and also adding the correct regional division for all levels to all clubs. But it's still possible that some clubs may be shifted to the wrong division. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sporadicsmiles Posted November 11, 2013 Share Posted November 11, 2013 You would do so in the database entry for your division. In the general tab for a division there are a set of options called North, South, East and West boundaries. You would have to select a city to correspond to each of these boundaries (as you say this works by latitude and longitude, so you can define rectangular regions). This coupled with setting divisions should in general keep teams in the correct regions. The problem you will have, as pointed out above, is that divisions are fixed in size when you create them, and I believe there is no way to change this limit. So, you cannot specify that you will relegate German teams to the German division if this will cause the lower level to increase in size. So what will happen is that the teams geographically (once you set regional boundaries) closest to another region will play in that region. It is similar to how the conference north and south can swap teams depending on who is relegated. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
avto Posted November 11, 2013 Share Posted November 11, 2013 Divisions seems to be not fixed with size, if the minimal and maximal number of teams are not equal. In my Georgian league file, which I'm trying to finish, the number of teams in the 2nd and 3rd tier vary in different seasons. I still have no idea, how does it works in details (and I'm going to fix the 3rd level regional leagues for each club), but it changes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sporadicsmiles Posted November 11, 2013 Share Posted November 11, 2013 Oh really? That is interesting indeed - I have never been able to controllably change division size so I assumed it was not something that was possible (I used to take it to mean I had made an error somewhere). I look forward to your release! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KUBI Posted November 11, 2013 Share Posted November 11, 2013 Dynamic league size set in the editor works since the release of FM2013. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sporadicsmiles Posted November 11, 2013 Share Posted November 11, 2013 Well, I apologise for my outdated and flat out wrong information :o Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
krlenjushka Posted November 11, 2013 Share Posted November 11, 2013 Dynamic league size set in the editor works since the release of FM2013. are you shure about this? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KUBI Posted November 11, 2013 Share Posted November 11, 2013 are you shure about this? It did work in my league file, minimum 18, maximum 22 clubs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
krlenjushka Posted November 11, 2013 Share Posted November 11, 2013 It did work in my league file, minimum 18, maximum 22 clubs. and league size is different year by year depends on relegation? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KUBI Posted November 11, 2013 Share Posted November 11, 2013 and league size is different year by year depends on relegation? I used it for regional sub-divisions and the size of the sub-divisions did vary over the seasons. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
krlenjushka Posted November 11, 2013 Share Posted November 11, 2013 can you send me your file? this is great news- i never try to set this in fm13 because didnt work on previous versions... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamez_b Posted November 12, 2013 Author Share Posted November 12, 2013 Yes i've set the size of the league to vary from 4 to 36 to compensate for the unlikely event that the top league ended up being dominated by the non German teams. I'm guessing i could look at the regional boundaries for the Austrian, Polish, Romanian league etc. and then just replicate them in the new divisions i've set up? Or if the division is not regional is it not populated with regional boundaries? Would be good if there was a quick way of finding the values rather than trying to suss out the coordinates for each country. It seems this league idea is becoming more complicated as it goes on and I haven't even decided which team and country I'm going to be yet. :confused: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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