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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by ACou2000:

Yes, yes it is.

It's also something which, believe it or not, can be improved.

Hence I'd rather he did that with us than against us. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

at what point did i say i wanted that either. tbh most wingers are in the same stage as ronaldo, but at an older age eg simao, ribery etc: the reason why they are so good is because of passing, vision, ball control, flair and speed mainly. the likes of beckham that can cross it well are slow and no way near as effective.

thats why because ronaldo is that good at such a young age, we should not sell him. whatever

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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Scatter:

and i used to be such an optimistic bloke... DAMN YOU MIKA! DAMN YOU TO HELL! icon_mad.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

So did I icon_frown.gif

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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Scatter:

20 - 22m would get us (or at lest get us permission to talk to) mascherano i reckon. maybe even a little less. we've bid 16 (or some are reporting 18!) million for carrick and had it kncked back. based on what he's said over the past 12-18 months we know fergie has had mascherano watched and likes what he sees.

I really can't see why we haven't/aren't pursuing him more vigorously. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

carricks wuite unique though as there arent many passers as good as him (excluding pirlo, alonso). tbh imo fergies got his priorities and they are to get carrick and then focus on who to have as a ball winner

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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Mika:

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Ter:

Are your reserves good or are Celtic just really really really bad? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Both I think icon_biggrin.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I thought we'd get mullered, i cant wait till you start saying how good most of teh players are icon_rolleyes.gif

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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by James07?:

If Chelsea made a 'name your price' offer for Rio, what would you do? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

£50 mill kthnx

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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by BBB:

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content"> UWS understands from two different sources that United are in talks with Owen Hargreaves. Both say that he'll be coming to the club and that the Senna deal is still on. More when we get it. </div></BLOCKQUOTE> </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I'd be bloody impressed if we do get both Senna and Hargreaves, especially if the Hargreaves fee is a decent price as well. It means we have an established DMC and someone who can learn and be moulded over the years also.

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10 years ago today......

Pele missed and Alex Ferguson reckons Nayim's was a miskick. It took one of Manchester United's young pretenders to show the world how to look up, take aim and score with a dazzling lob from halfway. And it came as no surprise that that man was David Beckham.

If life is sweet for United at the moment, it is a dream for their London-born midfielder whose exploits on his return to the capital may well have sealed his inclusion in Glenn Hoddle's first England squad to be named on Thursday

He also scored the goal that put United into the FA Cup final, and another in the Charity Shield, and impressed Hoddle in the summer under-21 tournament in Toulon, so the writing could soon be on the team-sheet.

So much for speculation that the arrival of Poborsky and Cruyff would force the floppy-haired Beckham to the fringe of the United team. His passing, positional sense and ability to do the simple and difficult things well have become too important to Ferguson's thinking.

Yet just over a year ago this precocious graduate of the United youth side was on loan to Preston, wondering where his career was going in a division where fame brought him only a memorable kicking from Fulham's Terry Hurlock.

'The move did worry me,' he says in broadest cockney. 'But I now accept I was a bit behind the other lads at United, who seemed to be making more progress than me.' Since returning to Old Trafford he has been a revelation, either on the wing or tucked inside dispensing cool imagination and guile to the United midfield.

It is all he ever wanted. Although he comes from Leytonstone, United were always his team, his bedroom wall plastered with pictures of the idols he was soon to join. He was even a graduate of the Bobby Charlton soccer school and at 15 turned down all interest elsewhere to travel north and personally offer himself to the club of his dreams.

Now he is on England's doorstep but, as he awaits his first call-up, Ferguson rightly offers caution. 'David is young and there is a long way to go yet,' he said. 'But I think he can handle an England call-up all right. We'll just nurse him the way we have been doing.' Funnily enough, observers reckoned this was Beckham's least effective game for United compared with those in pre-season. Early on he was outjumped, easily bundled off the ball and struggled with his passing.

But once he moved inside from his wide-right posting he began to find his feet. It was his tackle which led to Keane's bolt down the right to set up Cantona eventually for a brilliantly clinical finish. He was also involved in the triangle of passes that released Irwin into the area to score United's second with another deadly finish.

Wimbledon had their chances, Schmeichel pulling off two fine saves. But Keane also hit the bar and the longer the game went on the more imperious United looked, with Cruyff in particular impressing as a central striker.

Then seconds into injury time came Beckham's 55-yard lofted iron-shot to the back of the net. 'Goal of the season already,' predicted Ferguson.

Poborsky, who knows all about the fame a lob can bring, watched from the substitutes' bench, deliberately protected from the effects of a Premiership debut against the Crazy Gang. But the Czech will play against Everton on Wednesday, with Beckham moving inside as Keane is lost for three weeks to a knee operation.

With Butt suffering migraine and Cantona nursing a sore thigh, this will offer an early test for Ferguson's beefed-up squad. As for the title, United already sit atop the Premiership on alphabetical order from Forest. But just as it was silly last season to write off their championship hopes after the opening-day defeat by Aston Villa, so it would be silly to crown them champions now. Though not quite as silly

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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by BBB:

Look, we'll get Hargreaves. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

far too optimistic mart, we wont get that sexy mofo. Another season of Miller and Dazzle :*).

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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by T!mbo:

Wasn't he kicked in the head twice in the same friendly match or something? I'm sure there's something in Fergie's autobiography about it. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Yeah. Guy who kicked him in the head broke his ankle doing so.

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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by mark g:

Oh good grief Fergie, you senile old twat icon_mad.gif

Butt on a years loan icon_rolleyes.gif

"He's a player we know we can trust, who won't let us down" /o\

Maybe 4 years ago you scotch addled scots pillock. icon_frown.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

don't tempt fate icon_biggrin.gif

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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Coldberg:

Good to see Vidic getting acknowledgment for yesterday, I personally would have given him man of the match as he seemed to be in the way of everything. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

if we'd have been under any prolonged pressure, then maybe. but the the fact newcastle wouldn't have scored in a brothel with a million pounds kinda makes it hard to pick a defender as MotM.

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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Ryno:

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by mark g:

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by James07?:

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">"Fergie's Fledglings" </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

They were the lot that broke through before the class of 92 </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Deiniol Graham \o/ </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Guiliano Marijuana. icon14.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Tony Gill ftw icon14.gif

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Sir Alex Ferguson has pleaded with Portugal boss Luiz Felipe Scolari not to play Cristiano Ronaldo in midweek.

The in-form wide man picked up an ankle injury in the dying stages of Manchester United's win at Blackburn Rovers on Saturday and Ferguson has now called for him to be rested.

Portugal play Kazakhstan in a European Championship qualifier on Wednesday, but given the standard of opposition, United's chief feels Ronaldo could be spared.

United's win at Ewood Park had some of the gloss taken off it with the injury sustained by Gary Neville and while he will miss England's game in Holland, Ferguson has called for Ronaldo to be another international absentee.

"Cristiano has a European Championship game, he's got an ankle knock, but he will decide in the best interests of the boy and the team," said Ferguson.

"It's against Kazakhstan so you would have thought Portugal could handle that without Ronaldo, but if he's got one of these injuries which is 50-50, I hope he doesn't play."

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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by mark g:

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by snipersdream:

I look forward to his "We were unlucky, these things happen, we've got to get better as a team" follow-up article one week from now. icon14.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

"We'll have a crack at the almost unique achievment of completing the full set of european trophies" </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Mon the Waffa!

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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by BBB:

Should let Vida take them tbh, he'd scare the ball into flying into the net </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Nah he'd just stare at the keeper and the keeper would run away leaving the simple task of rolling the ball in the net.

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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by pjburrage:

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Should have rought on Dong or something instead! </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Cathcart tbh, especially at 6-0 </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

completely agree. nothing to gain from bringing homohair on, imagine giving Cathcart a debut in that game? he'd have been absolutely buzzing.

almost as if Fergie thought Roma had been humiliated enough icon_biggrin.gif

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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by BBB:

The "how long will NickOGS20 last in his new job" sweepstake

Okay as we all know, Nick starts his new job on Tuesday and has to be there at 9am and Nick and 9am haven't met each other many times in the last couple of years, so predict away lads.

BBB - 5 weeks

Gregg Carter - 16 Weeks </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

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This is from the Manchester Evening News review of the season. some interesting ratings in there tbh. Wonder if some of these people actually watch the games

EDWIN VAN DER SAR: Could make an impressive DVD of his match-winning saves (remember the one at Anfield from Peter Crouch) but his confidence and command was under question in the run-in 7

TOMASZ KUSZCZAK: Four clean sheets in his six Premiership starts is a good return. Generally he was sound, but Ben Foster poses a huge threat next term 6

BEN FOSTER: Very busy at Watford and recognised as the one player who might have kept them in Premiership. Challenging for England and will undoubtedly test Van der Sar's grip on the senior gloves next term 8

GARY NEVILLE: Like his fellow Class of 92 mates, he was having a brilliant season until ankle ligament injury wrecked the end of it. But right-back role is still very much his 8

RIO FERDINAND: Magnificent campaign. Cut out all those mind-wandering moments this season and has been at top of his form. Partnership with Vidic has helped him 9

NEMANJA VIDIC: Even the Serb was questioning his ability to cut it in the Premiership. He needn't have worried. Sir Alex Ferguson rated him best defender in country and that's hard to argue with 9

PATRICE EVRA: After trials and tribulations of last season, he was a sensation up to March but a few niggling injuries allowed Heinze to catch up again 7

GABRIEL HEINZE: Rediscovered his old form in the run-in but the defensive style that initially wooed Old Trafford has become too erratic for some 6

WES BROWN: Having been ousted as Ferdinand's sidekick early in autumn it looked bleak for the Mancunian, but he was a cornerstone of United's title tilt when the injury curse struck 7

MIKAEL SILVESTRE: Had dropped down the left-back pecking order and become a bit-part player. Dislocated shoulder in March summed up his misery 5

CRISTIANO RONALDO: United are not a one-man team, but where might they have been without their sensational winger and goal scorer? Team mates latched on to his form and confidence 10

MICHAEL CARRICK: Slow start to his United career. Conservative passing frustrated many but then he grew in stature to form unexpected successful link with Paul Scholes. Still more adventure wanted 7

PAUL SCHOLES: The rejuvenated Salfordian has looked a different player, having overcome his eye problem. The source of so much of United's exciting play 9

RYAN GIGGS: One of the elder outfield statesmen, he has split the fans with his contribution. Liberal amount of rolling back the years balanced by some infuriating times 7

JOHN O'SHEA: One of the much-maligned early-season fringe men who struggled in Copenhagen and at Southend, but late-season form and goals have turned his campaign into decent one 6

DARREN FLETCHER: Always seems to be more appreciated internally at club than by the punters. But nobody can doubt his industry and he won some over with late-term contribution 6

JI-SUNG PARK: Injuries have wrecked the Korean's season. Only really fit from mid-December to end of February, when he was in and out. Knee op at end of season poses big question over his future 5

ALAN SMITH: Concerns for him when he hit the wall in autumn after returning from horror leg and ankle break. Usual heart-on-sleeve stuff from him during the run-in 6

KIERAN RICHARDSON: First half of campaign was nondescript and fell out of favour with United support. Late season, he got it together better 5

LOUIS SAHA: Fergie couldn't envisage an XI without him in first half of term. Learned how to cope without him as his injury jinx struck again. Didn't endear himself by saying that he was not 100 per cent fit when Reds needed his goals in the season's run-in 6

WAYNE ROONEY: Best goal haul and yet arguably not as red-hot as last season. His engine never gave up during a draining campaign 8

OLE SOLSKJAER: After his three-year injury misery, he made an astonishing return with 11 goals. An infrequent starter and will no doubt have to accept bit-part role in the future 6

HENRIK LARSSON: Just what United needed to get them through the late winter. Invigorated dressing room and scored a few vital goals 7

DONG FANGZHUO: The Chinaman had one late chance to show his worth at Stamford Bridge and obviously needs more time to find feet at Premiership level 4

CHRIS EAGLES: A goal as a sub at Everton and industrious full league debut at Chelsea. Made most of his limited opportunities 5

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Balls. I've been half-remembering a half-lie (which I'm convinced was due to a balls up from a not-so-official United mag) for a decade.

Regardless, I can't see Anderson encountering any problems. Brazilians are generally given more leeway due to their success in major competitions and consequentially having fewer qualifying matches to compete in.

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