JD nawrat Posted June 22, 2014 Share Posted June 22, 2014 Ronaldo only gets stick when refusing to track back because he's a winger. If/when striker don't track back, nothing is ever said. For the lack of tracking that Ronaldo does with Portugal, you usually get the striker tracking back to make up for it. Only issue is that they track back centrally, not on the left. Which leaves Ronaldo's flank very open to overlaps and double teams (which is why Noikeee is close to a mental breakdown I feel ) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
balaban Posted June 22, 2014 Share Posted June 22, 2014 Cristiano Ronaldo already won the Champions League and is not fully fit, he shouldn't even bother with this tournament, he has nothing to prove. He's constantly criticized for slacking with the NT so in his mind he's desperate to play well and prove a point Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JD nawrat Posted June 22, 2014 Share Posted June 22, 2014 Nani always been a strange player. Has moments of brilliance but genuinely don't think the guy has ever strung two great performances together. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
noikeee Posted June 22, 2014 Share Posted June 22, 2014 Oh, he usually gets lots of abuse. It's just that right now there are several more important problems to abuse the players over No there isn't. Our team is completely unbalanced and getting overrun because of it. It's fine in most matches having him there for a counter, but how can you counter quickly in this heat? It's just not working and if this keeps going on we're going to concede. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew_ Posted June 22, 2014 Share Posted June 22, 2014 Ronaldo only gets stick when refusing to track back because he's a winger. If/when striker don't track back, nothing is ever said. For the lack of tracking that Ronaldo does with Portugal, you usually get the striker tracking back to make up for it. Only issue is that they track back centrally, not on the left. Which leaves Ronaldo's flank very open to overlaps and double teams (which is why Noikeee is close to a mental breakdown I feel ) I'm not sure you're understanding the tracking bit of tracking back Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noob21 Posted June 22, 2014 Share Posted June 22, 2014 Sooooooooo close Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
balaban Posted June 22, 2014 Share Posted June 22, 2014 No there isn't. Our team is completely unbalanced and getting overrun because of it. It's fine in most matches having him there for a counter, but how can you counter quickly in this heat? It's just not working and if this keeps going on we're going to concede. Yes, there is. Nobody protects in front of defence, nobody makes the final pass, nobody runs past the forward, the full backs don't help the center backs....there's endless problems Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PMLF Posted June 22, 2014 Share Posted June 22, 2014 He's constantly criticized for slacking with the NT so in his mind he's desperate to play well and prove a point He will probably be criticized anyway no matter what he does though. He won't have been a worse player if he underperforms for Portugal. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JD nawrat Posted June 22, 2014 Share Posted June 22, 2014 I'm not sure you're understanding the tracking bit of tracking back Not following I'm afraid :confused: Ronaldo doesn't track, the striker does though. This is good because it gives Portugal more defensive options. This is bad because Ronaldo's flank is open regardless. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
aderow Posted June 22, 2014 Share Posted June 22, 2014 Portugal looking shaky Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
georginho_juventusygr Posted June 22, 2014 Share Posted June 22, 2014 What the heck is that haircut? Hideous. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pukey Posted June 22, 2014 Share Posted June 22, 2014 Has Ronaldo ever been played central? Has it worked? Might make the tracking back on the left less of an issue, but one of his huge strengths is cutting inside, so obviously no point losing that if he's not as good cental (mind you, he constantly drifts inside and ends up central anyway) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainPlanet Posted June 22, 2014 Share Posted June 22, 2014 That Moutinho chap is pretty handy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew_ Posted June 22, 2014 Share Posted June 22, 2014 Not following I'm afraid :confused: Ronaldo doesn't track, the striker does though. This is good because it gives Portugal more defensive options. This is bad because Ronaldo's flank is open regardless. Who is the striker tracking exactly? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JD nawrat Posted June 22, 2014 Share Posted June 22, 2014 Has Ronaldo ever been played central? Has it worked? Might make the tracking back on the left less of an issue, but one of his huge strengths is cutting inside, so obviously no point losing that if he's not as good cental (mind you, he constantly drifts inside and ends up central anyway) IIRC he used to play as a lone striker for Portugal a few years back. One of the Portuguese lads will be able to clarify though I'm sure Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
balaban Posted June 22, 2014 Share Posted June 22, 2014 Has Ronaldo ever been played central? Has it worked? Might make the tracking back on the left less of an issue, but one of his huge strengths is cutting inside, so obviously no point losing that if he's not as good cental (mind you, he constantly drifts inside and ends up central anyway) Yes, many times. Doesn't work. If he's already central he can't use his pace and movement to cut in and cause a mismatch Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReggaeBwoy Posted June 22, 2014 Share Posted June 22, 2014 Nani has no touch whatsoever. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
georginho_juventusygr Posted June 22, 2014 Share Posted June 22, 2014 Nani is a poacher now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JD nawrat Posted June 22, 2014 Share Posted June 22, 2014 Who is the striker tracking exactly? The midfield. Watch them - Eder keeps finding himself around Bradley and in between the midfield and the defence if the defence has the ball. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSC Posted June 22, 2014 Share Posted June 22, 2014 US play with such energy and pace, so nice to see. Some great long range shots already. Dempsey such an underrated player, miss him in the PL. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ Posted June 22, 2014 Share Posted June 22, 2014 USA have so deserved a goal by now, MON! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noob21 Posted June 22, 2014 Share Posted June 22, 2014 Americans sure like their "long shots" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pangaea Posted June 22, 2014 Share Posted June 22, 2014 Bahaha. Some amusing comments from a commentator over here. "Nani cushions the ball harder than I shoot it." From another guy, with another bloke. "I've seen more movement at a doll theatre." Not gonna lie; I burst out laughing at that last one Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harryseaess Posted June 22, 2014 Share Posted June 22, 2014 Eder is turd. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
darren1983 Posted June 22, 2014 Share Posted June 22, 2014 Honestly, Ronaldo being Portuguese is the only thing that makes me want them to progress. Ronaldo is fbbb. He is but I also love Joao Moutinho - signed him on FM years ago and turned out great so always liked him Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
football_master_94 Posted June 22, 2014 Share Posted June 22, 2014 The midfield. Watch them - Eder keeps finding himself around Bradley and in between the midfield and the defence if the defence has the ball.The point is that it doesn't solve the fact that there's a 2v1 forming against the Portuguese LB. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JD nawrat Posted June 22, 2014 Share Posted June 22, 2014 Americans sure like their "long shots" Field goal are worth three! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pukey Posted June 22, 2014 Share Posted June 22, 2014 Yes, many times. Doesn't work. If he's already central he can't use his pace and movement to cut in and cause a mismatch Fair enough, makes sense. Thought it would have probably been tried in the past but figured I'd ask. Obviously don't want to make your best player far less effective. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JD nawrat Posted June 22, 2014 Share Posted June 22, 2014 The point is that it doesn't solve the fact that there's a 2v1 forming against the Portuguese LB. Yes and I addressed that twice already, including the initial post which was questioned. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew_ Posted June 22, 2014 Share Posted June 22, 2014 The midfield. Watch them - Eder keeps finding himself around Bradley and in between the midfield and the defence if the defence has the ball. I watched. He's not tracking any midfielder back into his own half. Ronaldo is even deeper than him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JD nawrat Posted June 22, 2014 Share Posted June 22, 2014 He is but I also love Joao Moutinho - signed him on FM years ago and turned out great so always liked him I like Moutinho also, but not enough to make me want Portugal to do well Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marc Albrighton Posted June 22, 2014 Share Posted June 22, 2014 What the heck is that haircut? Hideous. Footballer with a **** haircut? Surely not. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigcwwe Posted June 22, 2014 Share Posted June 22, 2014 Thought the US RB had scored with that long range effort a few mins ago. US having so many long shots it's crazy, going to score soon. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
noikeee Posted June 22, 2014 Share Posted June 22, 2014 Yes, there is. Nobody protects in front of defence Because one of the midfielders (mostly Moutinho) is having to cover in the left flank and with 1 man less they get completely overrun down the middle. nobody makes the final pass, nobody runs past the forward, Difficult to do any of that when you're playing silly quick and the heat makes it impossible for people to catch up upfront that quickly. the full backs don't help the center backs....there's endless problems Because the US are playing silly wide to force us to cover too much space exploiting our unbalanced defensive setup to the most. It all stems from that one problem... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
aiston Posted June 22, 2014 Share Posted June 22, 2014 Started to get annoyed at Lawro calling everything 'unlucky'. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harryseaess Posted June 22, 2014 Share Posted June 22, 2014 Ronaldo is very frustrated. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
darren1983 Posted June 22, 2014 Share Posted June 22, 2014 I like Moutinho also, but not enough to make me want Portugal to do well That's because you don't have the hours of FM time spent with him running your midfield Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
georginho_juventusygr Posted June 22, 2014 Share Posted June 22, 2014 Footballer with a **** haircut? Surely not. Cristiano Ronaldo doesn't need those two lines on the right of his head. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigcwwe Posted June 22, 2014 Share Posted June 22, 2014 Ronaldo is very frustrated. Playing with these Portuguese players i'm sure you would be. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JD nawrat Posted June 22, 2014 Share Posted June 22, 2014 That's because you don't have the hours of FM time spent with him running your midfield No but Miguel Veloso did that for me! And then I realised Veloso is actually pretty average IRL so I've gone off him completely Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
balaban Posted June 22, 2014 Share Posted June 22, 2014 Because one of the midfielders (mostly Moutinho) is having to cover in the left flank and with 1 man less they get completely overrun down the middle. No, not in the slightest. It's because Veloso keeps wandering off into random spots far far away Difficult to do any of that when you're playing silly quick and the heat makes it impossible for people to catch up upfront that quickly. Another reason why this moron coach shouldn't have the team pressing high Because the US are playing silly wide to force us to cover too much space exploiting our unbalanced defensive setup to the most. Quite the opposite, every american player cuts inside to shoot and ignores the flanks Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emersonlfc Posted June 22, 2014 Share Posted June 22, 2014 It's funny watching Nani try and be like Ronaldo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
darren1983 Posted June 22, 2014 Share Posted June 22, 2014 No but Miguel Veloso did that for me! And then I realised Veloso is actually pretty average IRL so I've gone off him completely Him as well but then I saw him IRL and gave up on him Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harryseaess Posted June 22, 2014 Share Posted June 22, 2014 Playing with these Portuguese players i'm sure you would be. Definitely, just Nani would be enough to drive me crazy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew_ Posted June 22, 2014 Share Posted June 22, 2014 Dempsey is awesome. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pangaea Posted June 22, 2014 Share Posted June 22, 2014 Portugal hasn't really changed all that much from the first game. Still a collection of individualists instead of a team, unlike the US. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
balaban Posted June 22, 2014 Share Posted June 22, 2014 Him as well but then I saw him IRL and gave up on him I'd trade this Veloso for his 21yo self (aka pre-Veloso-ate-all-the-pies) in a heartbeat Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emersonlfc Posted June 22, 2014 Share Posted June 22, 2014 I'm sure getting that tattoo on his kneecap was horrible. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainPlanet Posted June 22, 2014 Share Posted June 22, 2014 They all really are sweating like Geordies in a maths test. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
darren1983 Posted June 22, 2014 Share Posted June 22, 2014 Definitely, just Nani would be enough to drive me crazy. Just watching him is driving me crazy. Dempsey is awesome. When he was at Fulham he came into the HMV shop I worked in, had a chat with him, was a cool guy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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