Timmy Howard Posted July 27, 2015 Share Posted July 27, 2015 actually, not quite true: http://www.theguardian.com/football/2015/jul/27/real-madrid-sergio-ramos-manchester-united-move If we're being realistic he will not becoming this summer. The sooner we move on and get a defender in before the season starts the better. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
themadsheep2001 Posted July 27, 2015 Share Posted July 27, 2015 If we're being realistic he will not becoming this summer. The sooner we move on and get a defender in before the season starts the better. Not saying he was coming, just that the reports weren't accurate. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harryseaess Posted July 27, 2015 Author Share Posted July 27, 2015 Real will just wait a year, get De Gea for free and keep anyone that you'd be after too. De Gea is a great keeper but if he has just a year on his contract, United are in no position whatsoever to try to drive a hard bargain. I'm happy with that. Reports were that Madrid were trying to get him for £15m, if that's the case I'd rather keep him this year and lose him for free. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heartwork Posted July 27, 2015 Share Posted July 27, 2015 barcastuff @barcastuff 9 minutes agoMan United defender Marcos Rojo (25) wants to join Barcelona. Agent says talks will start in coming days. Could depend on Adriano. [dicen] Welp apparently I was wrong. If we're even close to making our money back on him he can go, he didn't do badly at all last season but he's not really at the level either team should be looking at long term. If his agent can get that move to happen, then that agent is not being paid enough. That guy could probably get me a move to Newcastle United if he can get Rojo to Barca. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icelander83 Posted July 27, 2015 Share Posted July 27, 2015 If his agent can get that move to happen, then that agent is not being paid enough. That guy could probably get me a move to Newcastle United if he can get Rojo to Barca. Maybe he has the same agent as Vermalen? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heartwork Posted July 27, 2015 Share Posted July 27, 2015 Strange one that, not seen any evidence yet he's actually with us. Not listed on the site(or wasn't at last glance) and hasn't been involved with the 21's. I think if De Gea goes then Cillesen will come, I think its probably done and dusted but on hold. Has been on loan in Serbia. His Twitter has been kept p to date with him supporting the first team on tour and he still says he's at United so probably still gonna be involved with the U-18s/19s to start with (still only 18) as a worst case scenario for him. But I'd expect to see him in the U21 team a lot. Dude has a dumb hairstyle though: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy_T Posted July 27, 2015 Share Posted July 27, 2015 was romero not first choice for AZ when they won the league? think he's probably better than lindegaard and johnstone. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heartwork Posted July 27, 2015 Share Posted July 27, 2015 van Gaal fairly sure he'll be going once his contract's up in 2017. Time to start preparing a successor? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RTHerringbone Posted July 27, 2015 Share Posted July 27, 2015 van Gaal fairly sure he'll be going once his contract's up in 2017. Time to start preparing a successor? Just get rid at the end of this season and get Guardiola in place before City do Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heartwork Posted July 27, 2015 Share Posted July 27, 2015 Or Klopp if he doesn't join a team beforehand. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timmy Howard Posted July 27, 2015 Share Posted July 27, 2015 was romero not first choice for AZ when they won the league? think he's probably better than lindegaard and johnstone. Have you seen him play? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sid1984 Posted July 27, 2015 Share Posted July 27, 2015 Happy with Romero, rate him higher than Cillessen who would cost a fair bit of money. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bradz FM Posted July 27, 2015 Share Posted July 27, 2015 I don't know an awful lot about Romero other than WC games but the fact that Subasic was considered better at Monaco is worrying. Awful keeper Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy_T Posted July 27, 2015 Share Posted July 27, 2015 Have you seen him play? yeah. he seems fine for the no.2 spot and is a clear upgrade on what we have there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
metal_guitarist Posted July 27, 2015 Share Posted July 27, 2015 Milinkovic-Savic doesn't have international clearance yet I don't think. In better news Callum Gribbin has signed his contract to stay with us. 4 year contract - scholar until he turns 17, then 3 years pro Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
akura Posted July 27, 2015 Share Posted July 27, 2015 i'd love to give ian holloway the chance just for the sheer entertainment, love that guy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
metal_guitarist Posted July 27, 2015 Share Posted July 27, 2015 Zak Dearnley and Ro-Shaun Williams have also signed their contracts finally Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bootador Posted July 27, 2015 Share Posted July 27, 2015 Just get rid at the end of this season and get Guardiola in place before City do It's okay, Superman has assured everyone that Guardiola will never join us because of some random interview in the past. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RTHerringbone Posted July 27, 2015 Share Posted July 27, 2015 He has been strangely mute of late. The De Gea saga is clearly taking its toll on him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icelander83 Posted July 27, 2015 Share Posted July 27, 2015 It may have been mentioned but I will have missed it if it was, Rojo missed the tour due to forgetting to renew his passport That's just a whole different level of stupid Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harryseaess Posted July 27, 2015 Author Share Posted July 27, 2015 It may have been mentioned but I will have missed it if it was, Rojo missed the tour due to forgetting to renew his passport That's just a whole different level of stupid I'm surprised the club doesn't have someone to take care of that, keep an eye on them etc. There seems to be passport problems that occur quite often with footballers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icelander83 Posted July 27, 2015 Share Posted July 27, 2015 I'm surprised the club doesn't have someone to take care of that, keep an eye on them etc. There seems to be passport problems that occur quite often with footballers. Agree with this but still, he travels so much for work you'd assume he'd keep these things in order himself Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
el sid Posted July 27, 2015 Share Posted July 27, 2015 The levels of stupidity astonishes me Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSB Posted July 27, 2015 Share Posted July 27, 2015 Might be a little more in these rumours of him leaving if that is the case. Not the kind of thing I can imagine LvG having a chuckle over. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonahno6 Posted July 27, 2015 Share Posted July 27, 2015 Is that the actual reason? What a muppet ffs . I just assumed it was something to do with his criminal record. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timmy Howard Posted July 27, 2015 Share Posted July 27, 2015 Jamie Jackson is reporting that PSG have only offered £28.5m for Di Maria.. er, no. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
roseboy64 Posted July 27, 2015 Share Posted July 27, 2015 You have to wonder if Lloris breaking his hand interfered with what we were planning GK wise this summer... Unlikely, the noise before that incident was we get someone in return or we'll let De Gea see out his contract. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
damo666 Posted July 27, 2015 Share Posted July 27, 2015 Ehm...Okay? Any news of what Arsenal are doing? Chelsea? more like aint we looking for a striker. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pangaea Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 Can't say I'm the least bit surprised if it turns out Ramos used us to get a better contract. It has become as fashionable as wearing pants. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rio_V Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 It may have been mentioned but I will have missed it if it was, Rojo missed the tour due to forgetting to renew his passport That's just a whole different level of stupid **** happens. Not that it has ever happened to me. Um...but seriously, it should only take him a day to renew. A really long day. A long day unless you are a professional footballer, for example. So wtf is the delay? Jamie Jackson is reporting that PSG have only offered £28.5m for Di Maria.. er, no. Well at least that would explain the drawn out nature of this silly saga. Way too low. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icondacarver Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 It may have been mentioned but I will have missed it if it was, Rojo missed the tour due to forgetting to renew his passport That's just a whole different level of stupid You need a minimum amount of weeks left on your passport to get into Chile. He was there for the Copa, how did it not flag then that it needed renewing pronto as it was near the minimum needed to get into the U.S? Hmmmmm Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icelander83 Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 You need a minimum amount of weeks left on your passport to get into Chile. He was there for the Copa, how did it not flag then that it needed renewing pronto as it was near the minimum needed to get into the U.S?Hmmmmm Isn't it 6 months for most countries but a whole year for the US? Seem to remember hearing that a while back Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
themadsheep2001 Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 He also has the whole issue of getting arrested in his country which might prevent him from getting into the U.S. anyway. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SJ234 Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 Saw on twitter that Cillessen is not in the Ajax Champions League squad because of what was described as an 'injury'. Suggestion being he is on his way to you Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigcwwe Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 Makes sense really, we've probably asked them to leave him out in case a deal gets done this summer. Smart. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timmy Howard Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 Or maybe Madrid are buying him instead and we get to keep DDG? We can but dream! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schotsmannetje Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 Not a United fan, but just wanted to respond to the Cillessen rumours as somebody who reads the Dutch newspapers. This is already one of the most important games for Ajax for the coming season, I really can't believe that they would pull him out of the squad one day before that game because of a transfer. I also don't believe that Van Gaal, as an 'Ajax-man', would ask them to exclude one of their most important players for such an important game. Just my two cents though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timmy Howard Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 A few journos are now reporting that LVG is happy to go with the defenders he has, with Blind/Carrick as back up. Only went for Ramos as he is world class/part of the DDG strategy. Otamendi is also "another Gaitain" - linked to us despite there being no interest. An improved midfield does provide extra protection but that is nothing short of worrying and frustrating if we're hoping to achieve anything this season... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cms186 Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 A few journos are now reporting that LVG is happy to go with the defenders he has, with Blind/Carrick as back up. Only went for Ramos as he is world class/part of the DDG strategy. Otamendi is also "another Gaitain" - linked to us despite there being no interest.An improved midfield does provide extra protection but that is nothing short of worrying and frustrating if we're hoping to achieve anything this season... more likely that you were unwilling to pay his release clause and Valencia wouldnt accept any lower fee Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timmy Howard Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 more likely that you were unwilling to pay his release clause and Valencia wouldnt accept any lower fee From the outside yes, but it seems it's been briefed to a few writers (credible ones) that we have never had any interest. Mark Ogden has been saying it for weeks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cms186 Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 From the outside yes, but it seems it's been briefed to a few writers (credible ones) that we have never had any interest.Mark Ogden has been saying it for weeks. Otamendi and his agent would never have kicked up the fuss they did if there was no interest from you Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timmy Howard Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 Otamendi and his agent would never have kicked up the fuss they did if there was no interest from you What fuss? It's all been speculation. He turned up for training early unlike Di Maria.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harryseaess Posted July 28, 2015 Author Share Posted July 28, 2015 If we're going to compete then the CBs we have really need to kick on a gear (if we don't sign anyone). I wouldn't be against Carrick playing CB. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cms186 Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 What fuss? It's all been speculation. He turned up for training early unlike Di Maria.. the stuff his agent said at the end of last season like "Nico wants to leave Valencia and is going to do everything possible to achieve it.": http://www.skysports.com/football/news/12691/9865037/man-utd-target-nicolas-otamendi-wants-to-leave-valencia-says-agent he said that in a Valencia radio interview a couple of days after the season ended, you dont burn your bridges that openly without the serious interest of another club Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timmy Howard Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 I had never seen that before, well hopefully this is just some tactic to try and get the price down then... Not to say Valencia aren't using us to get interest from other clubs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sebsy Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 I'll be pretty disappointed if we go in to the new season without improving our CB choices. I love Evans to bits, Smalling really grew on me in the second half of last season but Jones is utter ****, just constantly a disaster waiting to happen. Rojo can be goodt here, too, but it would really be nice to have one top class CB. To think of some of the partnerships we've had there and now it is a constantly rotating Evans/Smalling/Jones due to injuries. As good as our buys have been so far, it will be pretty disappointing to not improve on what was our weakest area last season. At least we've got a proper RB now, although if the rumours are true and LVG is going to pick Valencia ahead of Darmian (which personally I don't think will be true, at least I hope). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricky Button Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 Evans is the worst of the lot now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
managerdude_66 Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 I think the main issue is not a top class CB available in the market like Ramos or Hummels. Otamendi is good, certainly better than what we have here, but is not world-class. We brought in Rojo to add to the numbers last season and LVG probably doesn't want to buy one for the sake of it again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timmy Howard Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 If that is the case we should be looking to the future. There are younger CBs out there who are better than what we have now and which have the potential to be world class in the future. We'll have the same problem next year and the year after. Surely it's the job of the scouts to identify these players earlier rather than waiting a couple of years (with average defenders) to see who becomes the world class player we need. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
managerdude_66 Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 Smalling is 25 and Jones is 23. They are not 100% developed themselves. What we do need is a commanding presence in the backline (ie like Vidic/Rio/Evra were) and that sort of aura doesn't come in younger CBs. If we do sign someone like Laporte, we would be none the better. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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