daylight Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 Darren Fletcher is also gone. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icondacarver Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 I might take up drink.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackdevil Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 You forgot to cross off Fletcher from the last title winning side as everyone else noted. Even then the squad wasn't good enough. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
el sid Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 And Giggs as well Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy_T Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 Are you joking? He's added €5million to his value by playing 13 games in the course of a season? Don't see it myself. We've been bent over and taken again and again. Real win. Like they always do. the €10m madrid paid for him in the first place was cheap as ****. not going to then sell for €10m are they? another €5m is nothing anyway. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timmy Howard Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 Gary Neville tweeted something that certainly makes you think.. DDG Rafa Small JONES Evra Nani Rooney Carr Adnan Welbeck / RVP Rewind 230m? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icondacarver Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 Wait for it guys.....the splurge is coming, its coming. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sebsy Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 And Giggs as well Tbf, it's clearly been done as a still-at-the-club thing as opposed to just playing squad. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJ72 Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 The worst bit of this is that Toni's still there!! Wtf! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
adhikapp Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 Sorry to seem a bit ignorant or the picture is a bit too small but whose between Kagawa and Welbeck? Not really good at names Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew_ Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 Sorry to seem a bit ignorant or the picture is a bit too small but whose between Kagawa and Welbeck? Not really good at names Owen? Zooming in doesn't help. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sebsy Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 Is it Henriquez? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomtuck01 Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 the €10m madrid paid for him in the first place was cheap as ****. not going to then sell for €10m are they? another €5m is nothing anyway. He got that move on the back of a good World Cup, bot because he was already seen as some super-duper keeper. No way he joins Real r anyone vaguely as big if he doesn't have some good performances in Brazil. He's not worth €15million now and he wasn't a year ago. And frankly if he is/was the best goalkeeper in Spain, then it says an awful lot about the standard of goalkeeping over there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
outlander Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 Lindegaard is stil at the club, isn't he? So we've got one more recent champion at the club. Should help us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJ72 Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 Lindegaard is stil at the club, isn't he? So we've got one more recent champion at the club. Should help us. Gone/going to wba Just been confirmed... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoxToBox Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 Looks like Henriquez, indeed(in the pic). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhino Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 This is probably a reflection on my knowledge of football, but £36m for a guy I've never heard of seems very un-Man Utd! He any good? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icondacarver Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 LvG definitely scuppered the DDG contract in 2014 it seems. This guy must be trolling us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
adhikapp Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 Wow yea it is Henriquez. Surprised he even was in a team photo, thought he was always on loan with us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheps. Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 He got that move on the back of a good World Cup, bot because he was already seen as some super-duper keeper. No way he joins Real r anyone vaguely as big if he doesn't have some good performances in Brazil. He's not worth €15million now and he wasn't a year ago.And frankly if he is/was the best goalkeeper in Spain, then it says an awful lot about the standard of goalkeeping over there. What on earth? Navas was widely considered the best keeper in Spain 2013/2014. What a strange post. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icondacarver Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 For context there's 6 first team players left from the Chelsea squad that season and 8 from City's. True, we also need to put their replacements into context. Are we stronger now or weaker? Same applies to Chelsea and City Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sebsy Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 Genuinely think LVG is full on mental. Anyone could see back then how good de Gea was. From that, to his tactics, to his substitutions, to his transfer dealings to the things he says during interviews, I'm positive he is senile. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomtuck01 Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 Navas was widely considered the best keeper in Spain 2013/2014. What a strange post. The main point was that he'd have never joined Real had it not been for a good World cup. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
adhikapp Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 Genuinely think LVG is full on mental. Anyone could see back then how good de Gea was. From that, to his tactics, to his substitutions, to his transfer dealings to the things he says during interviews, I'm positive he is senile. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
adhikapp Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 The main point was that he'd have never joined Real had it not been for a good World cup. That is a bold statement. Navas was the best keeper in La Liga, a league where Real Madrid is also competing in. The only reason he didn't play much last season was simply politics that has always been in Casillas' way. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy_T Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 The main point was that he'd have never joined Real had it not been for a good World cup. well no he joined real madrid because of his form at levante since 2012. he beat courtois to the award in 2013/14, officially and otherwise. the world cup just enhanced his rep outside the country. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coldberg Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 We stood our ground against Madrid & come out of it with a replacement keeper & a fee. Not sure how that's a negative. Obviously we are worse off butthat would be the case no matter what we sold DdG for. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sid1984 Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 LvG definitely scuppered the DDG contract in 2014 it seems.This guy must be trolling us. I know LVG is destroying our club but wouldn't have thought he'd being deliberately destroying us. Surely that can't be true, or could it? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Confused Clarity Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 So having allowed Martial to be excused from the squad to sort out his United deal, Deschamps was asked if anybody else could leave the squad to do the same. He said it was possible & decided to simply use Lloris to United as an example of a transfer that's been talked about this season that could warrant it. Twitter has now gone into meltdown Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TalkSport Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 That is a bold statement. Navas was the best keeper in La Liga, a league where Real Madrid is also competing in. The only reason he didn't play much last season was simply politics that has always been in Casillas' way. Wouldn't say he was best keeper in La Liga when Valdes was in top form that season and Courtois was Courtois. He was turning in some very good performances for a mid table side, was no different then to say Begovic turning in big performances for Stoke. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
adhikapp Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 Lol a friend a mine just sent me a link that had us rumored with Adebayor Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bootador Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 For context there's 6 first team players left from the Chelsea squad that season and 8 from City's. Squads in have a high turnover of players shocker. 9 tbf and that's with 6 leaving this summer (Richards, Dzeko, Sinclair, Nastasic, Boyata, Milner) Hart, Zabaleta, Clichy, Kolarov, Kompany, Yaya, Silva, Nasri, Aguero are the 9. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy_T Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 Wouldn't say he was best keeper in La Liga when Valdes was in top form that season and Courtois was Courtois. He was turning in some very good performances for a mid table side, was no different then to say Begovic turning in big performances for Stoke. you're wrong though, he categorically was the best. did begovic win best goalkeeper award ahead of any top keeper? no. did navas? yes, officially and between spanish media and fans alike. not the same at all. courtois was 2012/13 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonahno6 Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 Am I right in thinking Martial can play on the wing? Could see Mata move back into the middle if so. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sebsy Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 He's played every PL game this season, tbf. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redshift Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 Well it sucks that we have lost one of the best keepers in the world to Real and got their "reject" but as long as he is a good keeper then I will settle for that. The only other option would have been to rob another Premier team of one of theirs and pay silly money from them and I've had enough of that. More worrying is LvG's tactics than the current squad, (which can do things if they are used correctly), and most of the big players want to play somewhere else at the moment. We just have to push on with what we've got and hope LvG stops drinking the Meths. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astafjevs Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 Am I right in thinking Martial can play on the wing? Could see Mata move back into the middle if so. That's where he played in the Champions League games against Arsenal. Against Juventus, they put him through the middle. Also think France are going to use him out wide as well. I have a feeling he's been signed to play out wide predominantly. Don't think he's going to displace Rooney up-front, or play alongside him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoxToBox Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 Well it sucks that we have lost one of the best keepers in the world to Real and got their "reject" but as long as he is a good keeper then I will settle for that. The only other option would have been to rob another Premier team of one of theirs and pay silly money from them and I've had enough of that. More worrying is LvG's tactics than the current squad, (which can do things if they are used correctly), and most of the big players want to play somewhere else at the moment. We just have to push on with what we've got and hope LvG stops drinking the Meths. Is there any relatively available Prem goalkeeper better than Navas? I guess most would say Lloris, but I don't think he's all that, risky/dodgy too, if not as much as Romero. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBC#1 Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 We stood our ground against Madrid & come out of it with a replacement keeper & a fee. Not sure how that's a negative. Obviously we are worse off butthat would be the case no matter what we sold DdG for. Yeah, I don't see how €29 million and a very capable replacement is bad business when DDG had 1 year left on his contract... Most players leave for absolute pennies with 1 year to go and United only have themselves to blame for letting it get to that point... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timmy Howard Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 It's not £29m plus Navas, It's about £15million plus Navas - a value of £29m. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy_T Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 That's where he played in the Champions League games against Arsenal. Against Juventus, they put him through the middle.Also think France are going to use him out wide as well. I have a feeling he's been signed to play out wide predominantly. Don't think he's going to displace Rooney up-front, or play alongside him. maybe mata will play centrally after all, where his pace isn't an issue and he can be more involved. especially now that januzaj's out of the way and he doesn't rate herrera. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy_T Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 It's not £29m plus Navas, It's about £15million plus Navas - a value of £29m. according to james ducker it's £25m cash plus navas (valued at £15m), which seems a great deal to me considering de gea's contract is up and he was leaving regardless. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timmy Howard Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 according to james ducker it's £25m cash plus navas (valued at £15m), which seems a great deal to me considering de gea's contract is up and he was leaving regardless. James Ducker @DuckerTheTimes 1h1 hour agoReal Madrid are paying 25m euros for De Gea with United getting Keylor Navas (valued at 15m euros) in return. Real win there if you ask me 25m euro is £18.25m Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackdevil Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 maybe mata will play centrally after all, where his pace isn't an issue and he can be more involved. especially now that januzaj's out of the way and he doesn't rate herrera. But pace is needed there, particularly to close down opposition defenders and then get back to help in midfield. On the flip side it's also needed when transitioning from defense to attack. Mata's movement or lack of is a symptomatic of the failings of the whole utd side bar Carrick and possibly Rooney. Rooney's problems this season are seemingly not being quick enough to shoot and players not moving around him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy_T Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 oh wait euros, not pounds. god Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy_T Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 will leave the accountancy to icon for a full net spend financial breakdown when the window closes Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheps. Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 BBC seem to think it's £29m with Navas included - http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/34108093 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy_T Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 But pace is needed there, particularly to close down opposition defenders and then get back to help in midfield. On the flip side it's also needed when transitioning from defense to attack. Mata's movement or lack of is a symptomatic of the failings of the whole utd side bar Carrick and possibly Rooney. Rooney's problems this season are seemingly not being quick enough to shoot and players not moving around him. the point is it's not as much an issue there. he's quick enough to close down and get about and all that, he's just not quick enough to drive past players when he's out wide. that makes us too predictable because you know he's always going to come inside and do the same thing because that's his only option. playing him centrally in the first place opens things up for him to play it around into faster players around him/out wide/up front. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harryseaess Posted August 31, 2015 Author Share Posted August 31, 2015 Gutted de Gea is gone. Wish him all the best, he's been a great player for us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJ72 Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 BBC seem to think it's £29m with Navas included - http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/34108093 Sky say the same. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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