Benru Posted June 9, 2018 Share Posted June 9, 2018 Hello, ım managing Galatasaray and we have 14 foreign players limit. I have normally 14 players and Ianis Hagi who has born in Turkey and has Turkish passport. I can’t add him into my list Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom14 Posted June 9, 2018 Share Posted June 9, 2018 Is he declared for the Romanian national team? If so it might mean that you can only have 14 players who aren't eligible for the Turkish national team. There is a similar rule in Russia. Even if a player has a Russian passport/eligibility, if he has represented another team at international level he is considered foreign. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
XaW Posted June 9, 2018 Share Posted June 9, 2018 Brookie got it right, the rule is that players have to be eligible for the Turkish national team to be considered "Turkish" enough for this rule. It doesn't matter if they have played for Turkey or not, but they have to be able to. So dual nationalities where the player are unable to play for Turkey equals non-Turkish. Strange rule, but it's how it is. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spurs08 Posted June 9, 2018 Share Posted June 9, 2018 15 minutes ago, XaW said: Brookie got it right, the rule is that players have to be eligible for the Turkish national team to be considered "Turkish" enough for this rule. It doesn't matter if they have played for Turkey or not, but they have to be able to. So dual nationalities where the player are unable to play for Turkey equals non-Turkish. Strange rule, but it's how it is. It makes sense to me - it's surely about trying to help the national team, so someone who can never play for them is no good. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
XaW Posted June 9, 2018 Share Posted June 9, 2018 18 minutes ago, Spurs08 said: It makes sense to me - it's surely about trying to help the national team, so someone who can never play for them is no good. Yeah, I understand the reasoning behind it, but consider this. A player with Turkish and Georgian parents, born in Turkey, living in Turkey, playing for a Turkish side, but are deemed not good enough to play for the Turkish national side and thus are offered a chance to play for Georgia which he does, are suddenly declared a foreign player. For me, that's just plain strange. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom14 Posted June 9, 2018 Share Posted June 9, 2018 It can seem strange but the Turkish FA want to encourage minutes for players who can play for their own national team to develop them, so I can understand it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spurs08 Posted June 9, 2018 Share Posted June 9, 2018 1 hour ago, XaW said: Yeah, I understand the reasoning behind it, but consider this. A player with Turkish and Georgian parents, born in Turkey, living in Turkey, playing for a Turkish side, but are deemed not good enough to play for the Turkish national side and thus are offered a chance to play for Georgia which he does, are suddenly declared a foreign player. For me, that's just plain strange. It might also mean, though, that that player decides not to play for Georgia, leaving open the option of Turkey if he improves, so as not to be classed as a foreign player. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
XaW Posted June 9, 2018 Share Posted June 9, 2018 1 minute ago, Spurs08 said: It might also mean, though, that that player decides not to play for Georgia, leaving open the option of Turkey if he improves, so as not to be classed as a foreign player. Yeah, but that feels more like extortion with extra steps... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
zlatanera Posted June 9, 2018 Share Posted June 9, 2018 2 hours ago, Benru said: Hello, ım managing Galatasaray and we have 14 foreign players limit. I have normally 14 players and Ianis Hagi who has born in Turkey and has Turkish passport. I can’t add him into my list I can't read the language your game is in, but I only see the icon of the Romanian national side...suggesting despite his birthplace he doesn't hold Turkish citizenship therefore would be foreign. I'm guessing given he was born in 1998 and his father left Turkey in 2001 to manage the national side, you must need to remain longer or fill in a form or something to acquire Turkish citizenship when your parents are foreign? Or FM screwed up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benru Posted June 10, 2018 Author Share Posted June 10, 2018 11 hours ago, zlatanera said: I can't read the language your game is in, but I only see the icon of the Romanian national side...suggesting despite his birthplace he doesn't hold Turkish citizenship therefore would be foreign. I'm guessing given he was born in 1998 and his father left Turkey in 2001 to manage the national side, you must need to remain longer or fill in a form or something to acquire Turkish citizenship when your parents are foreign? Or FM screwed up. Actually if you born in Turkey you are being citizen even if your parents are foreign Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
zlatanera Posted June 10, 2018 Share Posted June 10, 2018 3 hours ago, Benru said: Actually if you born in Turkey you are being citizen even if your parents are foreign Could be an FM screw up then. Which database are you on? Is it the January transfers update? Because that picture you uploaded does show him as only a Romanian national. Whereas on my Fiorentina save with the original database he's got both Romanian and Turkish nationality. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neotropolis Posted June 10, 2018 Share Posted June 10, 2018 1 hour ago, zlatanera said: Could be an FM screw up then. Which database are you on? Is it the January transfers update? Because that picture you uploaded does show him as only a Romanian national. Whereas on my Fiorentina save with the original database he's got both Romanian and Turkish nationality. See @brookie1402's comments below (their at the top of the thread). That's why it doesn't count. 18 hours ago, brookie1402 said: Is he declared for the Romanian national team? If so it might mean that you can only have 14 players who aren't eligible for the Turkish national team. There is a similar rule in Russia. Even if a player has a Russian passport/eligibility, if he has represented another team at international level he is considered foreign. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
zlatanera Posted June 10, 2018 Share Posted June 10, 2018 28 minutes ago, Neotropolis said: See @brookie1402's comments below (their at the top of the thread). That's why it doesn't count. Yes I saw those, what confused me is that it didn't even show his second nationality. If they declare for a nation, it'll still show their other nationality. Like so: That's Ianis Hagi on the original database. If you compare that image to the OP, you'll notice that in both cases Romanian is listed as a nationality, but for some reason for OP Turkish isn't. That's why, when given the information about being born in Turkey automatically granting you citizenship, I came to the conclusion that it's a flaw in the game that he doesn't have Turkish nationality for @Benru Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benru Posted June 16, 2018 Author Share Posted June 16, 2018 On 10/06/2018 at 17:42, zlatanera said: Yes I saw those, what confused me is that it didn't even show his second nationality. If they declare for a nation, it'll still show their other nationality. Like so: That's Ianis Hagi on the original database. If you compare that image to the OP, you'll notice that in both cases Romanian is listed as a nationality, but for some reason for OP Turkish isn't. That's why, when given the information about being born in Turkey automatically granting you citizenship, I came to the conclusion that it's a flaw in the game that he doesn't have Turkish nationality for @Benru Yes, mine is january database. In original one (without update) he also had Turkish nationality. He has Turkish pasaport in real life Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
zlatanera Posted June 16, 2018 Share Posted June 16, 2018 @Benru I've just looked at a couple of my other saves and it does appear that Hagi lost his Turkish nationality in the update, its not just your game. I'd report this as an issue so they at least fix it for FM19 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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