knap Posted November 16, 2022 Author Share Posted November 16, 2022 MME 23.0.0 PARIS 4231 P104 ALL CUPS ME23.0.0PARISKnapPar1s4231P104ALLCUPS.fmf Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted November 16, 2022 Author Share Posted November 16, 2022 ME 23.0.0 HOLY GHOST FIRE 41212 Narrow Diamond P100 EC FA ME23.0.0HOLYGHOSTFIREKnap41212NDP100ECFA.fmf ME23.0.0HOLYGHOSTFIREKnap41212NDP100ECFA.fmf Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisCom Posted November 16, 2022 Share Posted November 16, 2022 Love the work Knap, have you had any success with a 3-4-2-1 or even better 4-3-2-1, but both narrow. Like the old school Christmas tree formation? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted November 16, 2022 Author Share Posted November 16, 2022 @ChrisCom Closest to 4312 is kopfan 433 tactic although there is a wide xtree. 343 or 3412 but not 3421 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
longruoi1 Posted November 16, 2022 Share Posted November 16, 2022 On 15/11/2022 at 16:58, hrmantovani said: Sadly I don't have the save from the second season anymore... I was just buying some players each window and simulating through the season, so I deactivated the auto save. These screenshots are from the third season, which is when I saved and stopped testing. We were poor in the PL but we got to the final 8 on CL after finishing 2nd (!!!) in that new format. Basically the top 3 contributed (G+A) a similar amount of goals To consistently improve you need a plan for buying and growing wonderkids from the first season. They will only get better, and can be sold for tons of money to fund even better wonderkids. Players like Fred and De Beek should not be considered unless heavily discounted. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hrmantovani Posted November 16, 2022 Share Posted November 16, 2022 (edited) 38 minutos atrás, longruoi1 disse: To consistently improve you need a plan for buying and growing wonderkids from the first season. They will only get better, and can be sold for tons of money to fund even better wonderkids. Players like Fred and De Beek should not be considered unless heavily discounted. I was just buying players and simulating through the season, this is not a serious save. Wonderkids might be better long-term but I needed players that could make an impact right away so I could test the tactic Edited November 16, 2022 by hrmantovani Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
longruoi1 Posted November 16, 2022 Share Posted November 16, 2022 17 minutes ago, hrmantovani said: I was just buying players and simulating through the season, this is not a serious save. Wonderkids might be better long-term but I needed players that could make an impact right away so I could test the tactic It is fine, I just tried to explain why your results stalled in the third season. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted November 16, 2022 Author Share Posted November 16, 2022 ME 23.0.0 HOLY GHOST FIRE 41212 ND NIKE P106 ALL CUPS ME23.0.0HOLYGHOSTFIREKnap41212NDNIKEP106ALLCUPS.fmf Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted November 17, 2022 Author Share Posted November 17, 2022 Brentford test with NIKE defence 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
grayer23 Posted November 17, 2022 Share Posted November 17, 2022 @knap Hi Knap, Sorry to ask if you have already explained but what is NIKE defence? Is it much more stable than other tactics without it? and if so will you be applying it to other tactics? Thanks!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted November 17, 2022 Author Share Posted November 17, 2022 @grayer23 By dropping a BPD to cover, when you look at back 4 it forms a swoosh. It has performed slightly better in a couple of tactics 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
grayer23 Posted November 17, 2022 Share Posted November 17, 2022 15 minutes ago, knap said: @grayer23 By dropping a BPD to cover, when you look at back 4 it forms a swoosh. It has performed slightly better in a couple of tactics Oh yeah I see it now LOL!!! I may try it on another couple of tactics to see how it works. Are you finding 451 better than 4231 on this years game? I'm having success with both so far but I just prefer a 4231 more. Thanks for all the hard work again this year so far!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
djmc.smeets Posted November 17, 2022 Share Posted November 17, 2022 hey knap, Is there a tactic that's good for lower leagues? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FuSS Posted November 17, 2022 Share Posted November 17, 2022 1 hour ago, knap said: @grayer23 By dropping a BPD to cover, when you look at back 4 it forms a swoosh. It has performed slightly better in a couple of tactics Well this is interesting, might give it a whirl. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted November 17, 2022 Author Share Posted November 17, 2022 @djmc.smeets Lower league is no different to any other league regarding tactics Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
djmc.smeets Posted November 17, 2022 Share Posted November 17, 2022 13 minutes ago, knap said: @djmc.smeets Lower league is no different to any other league regarding tactics ok thanks, my team is expected to be 5th so a tactic for sub-top. But your not there with testing, that's wy i asked. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted November 17, 2022 Author Share Posted November 17, 2022 @djmc.smeets I will run LL tests Generally LL is easier than PL and you can run top team tactics from 5th if you buy/free players Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PAFC_Dugout Posted November 17, 2022 Share Posted November 17, 2022 1 hour ago, djmc.smeets said: ok thanks, my team is expected to be 5th so a tactic for sub-top. But your not there with testing, that's wy i asked. Probably different now but on FM19 I used the Beowulf 4-2-4 (wingers) with Dulwich Hamlet and won every league consecutively on my way to the Premier League. Was a lot of fun. Think knaps tactics still effective at all levels Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted November 17, 2022 Author Share Posted November 17, 2022 ME 23.0.0 ELECTRIC FUNERAL 451 NIKE Arsenal P91 EC FA ME23.0.0ELECTRICFUNERALKnap451NIKEArsenalP91ECFA.fmf Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted November 17, 2022 Author Share Posted November 17, 2022 ME 23.0.0 ELECTRIC FUNERAL SUS Set up in Final against Man City ME23.0.0ELECTRCFUNERAL451SUS.fmf Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chmurson71 Posted November 17, 2022 Share Posted November 17, 2022 Hi Knap, thank you vm for your job! I possible to make a "HGF 4231 VA MC P100 FA CC HAALAND 114 Goals" with NIKE defence? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
djmc.smeets Posted November 17, 2022 Share Posted November 17, 2022 1 hour ago, knap said: @djmc.smeets I will run LL tests Generally LL is easier than PL and you can run top team tactics from 5th if you buy/free players ok great, thanks for the info. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
djmc.smeets Posted November 17, 2022 Share Posted November 17, 2022 42 minutes ago, PAFC_Dugout said: Probably different now but on FM19 I used the Beowulf 4-2-4 (wingers) with Dulwich Hamlet and won every league consecutively on my way to the Premier League. Was a lot of fun. Think knaps tactics still effective at all levels i know the tactics of knap are great, only not played a lot off LL. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beekimov Posted November 17, 2022 Share Posted November 17, 2022 @knap i just promoted whit Dynamo Dresden tot the Bundesliga, can you give me advice for a good '' underdog'' tactic. I really want to survive the first season Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted November 17, 2022 Author Share Posted November 17, 2022 @Beekimov There is a Bournemouth test tab for ideas Testing with Brentford top tactics are the P109 P110 or the HGF tactic will post later 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted November 17, 2022 Author Share Posted November 17, 2022 ME 23.0.0 HOLY GHOST FIRE 451 NIKE P102 EC FA ME23.0.0HOLYGHOSTFIREKnap451NIKEP102ECFA.fmf Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted November 17, 2022 Author Share Posted November 17, 2022 ME 23.0.0 PARS 4231 DM NIE P104 FA ME23.0.0PARISKnapPar1s4231DMNKEP104FA.fmf Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kopfan1977 Posted November 17, 2022 Share Posted November 17, 2022 On 13/11/2022 at 20:05, knap said: @kopfan1977 Have you tried Attack, rather than VA which is not working as well in the ME No mate, Not tried to tinker with mentality on it yet.. Been too busy tinkering with a formation I like the look of. Worked great in the Championship, Even managed to win FA Cup, League cup using it. But now in 2nd season in Prem and even after beating an almost full strength Man City (minus Ederson) in the community shield I am struggling with it. This is what I've been trying to get going.. Sometimes the attacking play is sheer brilliance, other times utterly frustrating with the amount of shots I can take and not score. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted November 17, 2022 Author Share Posted November 17, 2022 @kopfan1977 One of my fav formations going back to Kimz in FM08 with carrows Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kopfan1977 Posted November 17, 2022 Share Posted November 17, 2022 10 minutes ago, knap said: @kopfan1977 One of my fav formations going back to Kimz in FM08 with carrows At times it's a joy to watch. Some of the passing and movement is beautiful. Then I start to wonder if my team had been abducted by aliens. Going from prime Barca with some of the passing, To watching them look like a sunday pub team. I've stripped it right back to bare basics for now. If I can't get it going again I'll be going and checking the mentality out on the Kopfan edit from FM22 to see if that works Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted November 17, 2022 Author Share Posted November 17, 2022 @kopfan1977 The current ME seesaws too much 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jepguardiola10 Posted November 17, 2022 Share Posted November 17, 2022 @knap Im am Bordeaux and I wanna play 4231 with 2 CDM's. Which one would you recommend? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hm86 Posted November 18, 2022 Share Posted November 18, 2022 20 hours ago, knap said: @grayer23 By dropping a BPD to cover, when you look at back 4 it forms a swoosh. It has performed slightly better in a couple of tactics Do the two BPD's have different PI's or is the only difference the role (cover v defend)? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted November 18, 2022 Author Share Posted November 18, 2022 (edited) @jepguardiola10 I would try them all and see what is best fit. Arsenal tested ay be a good start or Bournemouth test See which one fits with your AMR/L Edited November 18, 2022 by knap Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
keithbeaky Posted November 18, 2022 Share Posted November 18, 2022 @knap can I ask how you test tactics? I have a good pc and like trying to build tactics, not very well, but am trying to learn from bits and pieces I pick up - mainly from you. But when running tests I notice all my players need a rest and cant help but feel this makes testing........ inconsistent? No worries if you'd rather not disclose this, thanks for all the tactics and your help . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted November 18, 2022 Author Share Posted November 18, 2022 @hm86 Should be same 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted November 18, 2022 Author Share Posted November 18, 2022 @keithbeaky Not found that to be an issue and prefer to keep tests close to a real save. You can use fmrte and freeze conditions which is good for comparing tactics, but can produce unrealistic results, and should not be compared to real save results Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
keithbeaky Posted November 18, 2022 Share Posted November 18, 2022 10 minutes ago, knap said: @keithbeaky Not found that to be an issue and prefer to keep tests close to a real save. You can use fmrte and freeze conditions which is good for comparing tactics, but can produce unrealistic results, and should not be compared to real save results Ok thanks. I am just holidaying with training and rest set at the start of the season. Just want to run some tests with Bournemouth and see how each tactic performs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted November 18, 2022 Author Share Posted November 18, 2022 @keithbeaky If interested in just testing, you could HUB Test for the Discord. We have the 48 game test ready but are now increasing to 96 games. Good thing about HUB Test is it is very fast. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fadesany Posted November 18, 2022 Share Posted November 18, 2022 On 05/11/2022 at 15:55, longruoi1 said: From my own experience, if they have IF prefer moves such as Cut Inside, Get in the area, they will play better on the otherside, while still set as winger. Even more true if they are natural on that side, like the case of Son on left wing. If you change to IF it will affect the whole team, not worth it. Also I believe you will get better results if you have a quicker CM than Neves. Hi @longruoi1 i tried you suggesting of getting my wingers to train preferred moves of cut inside and get in opposition area and it worked amazing. Do you have any suggestions of the best preferred moves for other positions? Thanks in advance Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted November 18, 2022 Author Share Posted November 18, 2022 E 23.0.0 PARIIS SUS ME23.0.0PARISKnapSUS.fmf Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chipspice1974 Posted November 18, 2022 Share Posted November 18, 2022 HGF 109 working great. 1st season - 1st Championship 2nd season - 12th premiership playing as Hull. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HighTempo Posted November 18, 2022 Share Posted November 18, 2022 (edited) On 06/11/2022 at 22:19, knap said: ME 23.0 BETA HGF 451 BRENT P83 MC P103 EC FA ME23.0HGFKnap451PBRENTP83MCP103ECFA.fmf 46.7 kB · 990 downloads I know this one was from a while back, but I've just finished a full managed season with it and it's been perfect. Only slight problem was Jesus underperforming for goals but looks like that's fairly realistic irl. Won the League, CL and LC with Arsenal. Only had a single non-penalty loss across the entire season. Cheers @knap. Edited November 18, 2022 by HighTempo 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
keithbeaky Posted November 18, 2022 Share Posted November 18, 2022 4 hours ago, knap said: @keithbeaky If interested in just testing, you could HUB Test for the Discord. We have the 48 game test ready but are now increasing to 96 games. Good thing about HUB Test is it is very fast. Yes I can help with this if you like? I work from home and have a latop that can run a holiday season pretty quick, so would imagine HUB be even faster Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted November 18, 2022 Author Share Posted November 18, 2022 (edited) @HighTempo ME is still 23.0.0 so Beta tactics should still work Edited November 18, 2022 by knap 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted November 18, 2022 Author Share Posted November 18, 2022 @keithbeaky Are you on HUB Discord? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
keithbeaky Posted November 18, 2022 Share Posted November 18, 2022 51 minutes ago, knap said: @keithbeaky Are you on HUB Discord? am now yes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted November 18, 2022 Author Share Posted November 18, 2022 @keithbeaky Test league is not ready yet but the short test of 144 games takes my laptop 15mins 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
keithbeaky Posted November 18, 2022 Share Posted November 18, 2022 14 minutes ago, knap said: @keithbeaky Test league is not ready yet but the short test of 144 games takes my laptop 15mins Ok as long as all instructions are clear I'll be happy to help and also try out some of mine haha. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cragswfc Posted November 18, 2022 Share Posted November 18, 2022 On 15/11/2022 at 17:02, knap said: what tactic was this Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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