knap Posted October 23, 2022 Author Share Posted October 23, 2022 I will post the 4231 DM Very attacking set up on ME 23.0 and Positive set up on ME 23. BETA, in a tick. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted October 23, 2022 Author Share Posted October 23, 2022 (edited) ME 23.0 HGF 4231DM VA MC P102 FA ME23.0HGF4231DMVAMCP102FA.fmf Edited October 23, 2022 by knap 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Reaper Posted October 23, 2022 Share Posted October 23, 2022 7 dakika önce, knap said: ME 23.0 HGF 4231DM VA MC P102 FA link? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted October 23, 2022 Author Share Posted October 23, 2022 ME 23.00 BETA HHGF 4231 DM MC P104 ALL CUPS ME23.0HGF4231DMMCP104ALLCUPS.fmf Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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The Reaper Posted October 23, 2022 Share Posted October 23, 2022 23 dakika önce, knap said: ME 23.00 BETA HHGF 4231 DM MC P104 ALL CUPS ME23.0HGF4231DMMCP104ALLCUPS.fmf 45 kB · 25 downloads if to compare with electric funeral which one is better fro your opinion? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexTheTall Posted October 23, 2022 Share Posted October 23, 2022 I do not understand why my teams cannot defend, the other teams always have 2-3 XG and I get destroyed... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ViperBlade Posted October 23, 2022 Share Posted October 23, 2022 @knap Do you have a google sheets page for FM 23 tactics? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mickeylad Posted October 23, 2022 Share Posted October 23, 2022 8 minutes ago, AlexTheTall said: I do not understand why my teams cannot defend, the other teams always have 2-3 XG and I get destroyed... I have been shipping a lot of goals myself, defense in the current ME seems to be a struggle Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jborges Posted October 23, 2022 Share Posted October 23, 2022 Agora, Mickeylad disse: I have been shipping a lot of goals myself, defense in the current ME seems to be a struggle You dont mind seing a player score 114 goals, but you are pissed because there are a lot of goals (including the ones agaisnt you)? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted October 23, 2022 Author Share Posted October 23, 2022 @ViperBlade Not yet. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kandersson Posted October 23, 2022 Share Posted October 23, 2022 Any test for Kashmir 433? I have a preference for deep 4231 and deep 442 IRL though the very attacking 433 was a beast in FM22! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
V50 Posted October 23, 2022 Share Posted October 23, 2022 1 hour ago, AlexTheTall said: I do not understand why my teams cannot defend, the other teams always have 2-3 XG and I get destroyed... Out of interest are you using DMs? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FozzyBear90 Posted October 23, 2022 Share Posted October 23, 2022 Any tactics solid for extreme lower leagues on FM23? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted October 23, 2022 Author Share Posted October 23, 2022 @kandersson I used a few pre Beta that were ok - KASMIR kopfan 433, BEOWULF 442 and 442 with DMs 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted October 23, 2022 Author Share Posted October 23, 2022 @FozzyBear90 451 is still most stable. In pre Beta you could also use low mentalities like very defensive and still dominate. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GalderHell Posted October 23, 2022 Share Posted October 23, 2022 which 442 is working on Beta right now? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jborges Posted October 23, 2022 Share Posted October 23, 2022 Hey lads, Ok, after a 1st season where i tryed at least 5 or 6 different tactics, with Man City, i settled with the tactic i will share bellow. Its a Knap tactic (what else?) modified slightly, that i feel works real good and delivers some nice and real (feels like it for me) football. I know its City, bla bla... but this ME is still strange and its a Beta so im trying to understand what the FM23 ME needs to happen on the pitch. First season i won all trophys except for FA cup (semi-finals: i played that game in holiday mode, and Bornemouth won 2-1-- DANG!). So allmost perfect season. Haaland scored 84 in 53 matches... I leaked lots of goals, i guess its due to keep trying new stuff... ill see this year how it goes as i wont change the tct. At the end of that season i realized i couldnt be experimenting all the time, and started using only this tactic. At hard away games and hard home games i change mentality from positive to balanced (remember matches are dinamic and some times we must change mentality several times during the match). Second season, Haaland 3 months out with a broken foot. Bought a few new faces (only one is at the starting XI - Alphonso Davies). Won Supercup, European Supercup. No Haaland no problem... others score. This is the TCT, i have no credit on it, @knap has done all the work and i just tweaked it a bit. Thought i would share with you lads. ME22.4KashmirKnap451(THP93)P104tweaked.fmf Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Africa Posted October 23, 2022 Share Posted October 23, 2022 10 minutes ago, jborges said: Hey lads, Ok, after a 1st season where i tryed at least 5 or 6 different tactics, with Man City, i settled with the tactic i will share bellow. Its a Knap tactic (what else?) modified slightly, that i feel works real good and delivers some nice and real (feels like it for me) football. I know its City, bla bla... but this ME is still strange and its a Beta so im trying to understand what the FM23 ME needs to happen on the pitch. First season i won all trophys except for FA cup (semi-finals: i played that game in holiday mode, and Bornemouth won 2-1-- DANG!). So allmost perfect season. Haaland scored 84 in 53 matches... I leaked lots of goals, i guess its due to keep trying new stuff... ill see this year how it goes as i wont change the tct. At the end of that season i realized i couldnt be experimenting all the time, and started using only this tactic. At hard away games and hard home games i change mentality from positive to balanced (remember matches are dinamic and some times we must change mentality several times during the match). Second season, Haaland 3 months out with a broken foot. Bought a few new faces (only one is at the starting XI - Alphonso Davies). Won Supercup, European Supercup. No Haaland no problem... others score. This is the TCT, i have no credit on it, @knap has done all the work and i just tweaked it a bit. Thought i would share with you lads. ME22.4KashmirKnap451(THP93)P104tweaked.fmf 45.65 kB · 2 downloads You conceded 49goals same amount as 15th crystal palace!! This ME is bad😁 Don't say anything bad about tactic;) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jborges Posted October 23, 2022 Share Posted October 23, 2022 8 minutos atrás, Black Africa disse: You conceded 49goals same amount as 15th crystal palace!! This ME is bad😁 Don't say anything bad about tactic;) Yeah, but i reckon its because i kept changing tactics... lets see this year with same tact all year long 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted October 23, 2022 Author Share Posted October 23, 2022 ME 23.0 BETA ELECTRIC FUNERAL 41221 OXFORD P101 EC FA ME23.0ELECTRICFUNERALKnap41221OXFORDP101ECFA.fmf Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted October 23, 2022 Author Share Posted October 23, 2022 @GalderHell BEOWULF 442, Just trying options but will post later 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted October 23, 2022 Author Share Posted October 23, 2022 ME 23.0 BETA BEOWULF 442 W AF P100 EC ME23.0BEOWULFKnap442WAFP10OEC.fmf 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavyDepuydt1 Posted October 24, 2022 Share Posted October 24, 2022 @knap thanks for your amazing work again. How do you holiday-test your tactics, do you let the AM select & rotate the squad, or do you select it and tick "use team selection when possible"? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jborges Posted October 24, 2022 Share Posted October 24, 2022 (edited) 10 horas atrás, knap disse: ME 23.0 BETA BEOWULF 442 W AF P100 EC ME23.0BEOWULFKnap442WAFP10OEC.fmf 44 kB · 72 downloads Hey, thanks for sharing! Finally a tactic with a decent amount of goals against, id say 31 is not bad at all, and realistic... This ME is still very buggy, I find that when i play a DLC or a DRC, they are A LOT better at defending than the WBR or WLB, and the difference shouldnt be so dramatic... Edited October 24, 2022 by jborges Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted October 24, 2022 Author Share Posted October 24, 2022 FM 22 TACTICS GOOGLE DOCS Knap FM2022 - Google Docs KEY ATTRIBTES GK Handling Reflexes Agility Decisions DRL Acceleration Pace Decisions Stamina DC Decisions Positioning Marking Acceleration Pace Strength Jumping WBRL Acceleration Pace Decisions Stamina DM Acceleration Pace Decisions MRL Acceleration Pace Agility MC Acceleration Pace Vision Passing AMRL Acceleration Pace Dribbling AMC Acceleration Pace Vision ST Acceleration Pace Finishing Guide to test results PSG Elite Man City / Lpool top Base test top CA 160 top 5 Spurs / Arsenal CA 140 Top 10 CA 120 top 15 Blackpool relegation Attribute_Weights.pdf.pdf35.17 kB · 59 downloads Filters from The Prof filters_110854 (1).zip182.39 kB · 25 downloads Cadoni recommended shouts or use AM for Shouts FM22 Shouts - Encourage (0-0; 20 min mark) - Calm Down (win 1-0 after you scoring) - Demand More (draw) - Praise (win by 2 goals) - Berate (loss by 2 goals AWAY GAMES SUS With regard to Away games it depends upon your own risk factor. I am gung ho and prefer to attack and perhaps win 1 game in 3. If isk adverse then use a defensive tactic and perhaps draw all 3 games. As a defensive formation I would use 4141 as it has a DM and protects wings, and KINGSTONIAN 4141 would be my choice. I use 3 DLs std higher much higher. If AI are going for balls over top then std but if AI attacking you can leave at higher or much higher. The LOE can be adjusted with or without DL adjustments. The simple answer is just drop LOE.. I use Cautious positive and attacking mentalities. For a SUS these are ideas to use. Use 4141 formation Remove pass into space Stop WB runs by going to defend or no nonsense FB Use Defend on DM (or HB) or most defensive MC Change mentality Positive/cautious Add Time wasting Change from counter press and counter and full SUS would be to regroup and hold shape I tend to judge what to use by how the game is progressing as you may just to want to control game rather than a full SU CADONI TRAINING GG_-_0_Matches.fmf11.26 kB · 228 downloads GG_-_1_Match.fmf11.26 kB · 216 downloads GG_-_2_Matches.fmf11.26 kB · 214 downloads 581565429_GGPreSeason-Match.fmf11.27 kB · 42 downloads GG_PreSeason_No_Match.fmf11.23 kB · 194 downloads 330100806_GGPreSeason-FitnessWeek.fmf11.3 kB · 44 downloads Edited June 30 by knap BTN Balanced Early season.fmf19.19 kB · 786 downloads Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted October 24, 2022 Author Share Posted October 24, 2022 (edited) FM 23 TACTICS GOOGLE DOCS Knap FM2023 - Google Sheets KEY ATTRIBTES GK Handling Reflexes Agility Decisions DRL Acceleration Pace Decisions Stamina DC Decisions Positioning Marking Acceleration Pace Strength Jumping WBRL Acceleration Pace Decisions Stamina DM Acceleration Pace Decisions MRL Acceleration Pace Agility MC Acceleration Pace Vision Passing AMRL Acceleration Pace Dribbling AMC Acceleration Pace Vision ST Acceleration Pace Finishing Guide to test results PSG Elite Man City / Lpool top Base test top CA 160 top 5 Spurs / Arsenal CA 140 Top 10 CA 120 top 15 Blackpool relegation Attribute_Weights.pdf.pdf35.17 kB · 59 downloads Cadoni recommended shouts or use AM for Shouts FM22 Shouts - Encourage (0-0; 20 min mark) - Calm Down (win 1-0 after you scoring) - Demand More (draw) - Praise (win by 2 goals) - Berate (loss by 2 goals AWAY GAMES SUS With regard to Away games it depends upon your own risk factor. I am gung ho and prefer to attack and perhaps win 1 game in 3. If isk adverse then use a defensive tactic and perhaps draw all 3 games. As a defensive formation I would use 4141 as it has a DM and protects wings, and KINGSTONIAN 4141 would be my choice. I use 3 DLs std higher much higher. If AI are going for balls over top then std but if AI attacking you can leave at higher or much higher. The LOE can be adjusted with or without DL adjustments. The simple answer is just drop LOE.. I use Cautious positive and attacking mentalities. For a SUS these are ideas to use. Use 4141 formation Remove pass into space Stop WB runs by going to defend or no nonsense FB Use Defend on DM (or HB) or most defensive MC Change mentality Positive/cautious Add Time wasting Change from counter press and counter and full SUS would be to regroup and hold shape I tend to judge what to use by how the game is progressing as you may just to want to control game rather than a full SU TRAINING SCHEDUES EBTS v22.1 (1).fmf CADONI TRAINING GG_-_0_Matches.fmf11.26 kB · 228 downloads GG_-_1_Match.fmf11.26 kB · 216 downloads GG_-_2_Matches.fmf11.26 kB · 214 downloads 581565429_GGPreSeason-Match.fmf11.27 kB · 42 downloads GG_PreSeason_No_Match.fmf11.23 kB · 194 downloads 330100806_GGPreSeason-FitnessWeek.fmf11.3 kB · 44 downloads Edited October 24, 2022 by knap 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted October 24, 2022 Author Share Posted October 24, 2022 ARGUS Has started well Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jborges Posted October 24, 2022 Share Posted October 24, 2022 7 minutos atrás, knap disse: ARGUS Has started well Wow... lots of food for thought... so a tct based on those premises would be? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted October 24, 2022 Author Share Posted October 24, 2022 @jborges It is a 3412 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Africa Posted October 24, 2022 Share Posted October 24, 2022 44 minutes ago, knap said: ARGUS Has started well 3 goals conceded in the league so far! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jborges Posted October 24, 2022 Share Posted October 24, 2022 3 minutos atrás, Black Africa disse: 3 goals conceded in the league so far! yeah, but you have to overload defence... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jborges Posted October 24, 2022 Share Posted October 24, 2022 Agora, jborges disse: yeah, but you have to overload defence... Hard to play like that when your are a top team... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted October 24, 2022 Author Share Posted October 24, 2022 @jborges You have to remember there is a role tweak Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Africa Posted October 24, 2022 Share Posted October 24, 2022 23 minutes ago, jborges said: Hard to play like that when your are a top team... Fan of solid defensive football here, i don't mind even 6 or 7 players defending Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jborges Posted October 24, 2022 Share Posted October 24, 2022 20 minutos atrás, knap disse: @jborges You have to remember there is a role tweak Cant see the tactic, @knap. can you put a printscreen, please? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jborges Posted October 24, 2022 Share Posted October 24, 2022 9 minutos atrás, Black Africa disse: Fan of solid defensive football here, i don't mind even 6 or 7 players defending i like defensive football, but i cant picture myself playing City, and using a dfensive formation... im trying to figure out how to emulate Guardiola´s style in FM23... it doensnt seem to be possible with this ME Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted October 24, 2022 Author Share Posted October 24, 2022 @jborges You need to look at how the AI are playing against you Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Reaper Posted October 24, 2022 Share Posted October 24, 2022 1 saat önce, knap said: ARGUS Has started well waiting impatiently Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
aleri0n Posted October 24, 2022 Share Posted October 24, 2022 is there an updated Google doc for FM 2023? The link on the 1st post is still to the FM 2022 one. Thanks! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted October 24, 2022 Author Share Posted October 24, 2022 @aleri0n FM22 Link removed - FM23 is blank atm Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jborges Posted October 24, 2022 Share Posted October 24, 2022 @knap I kept teaking this tct of yours, and i got to this: I believe at this stage the ME is very sensitive about mentality. I used to play home "attacking" and away "balanced", now i play home "balanced" and away "cautious", no matter what team. I dominate gameplay, team appears toi think a lot better when they take chances (dribbling or trying a long ball) or when they keep possessions trough short passes. Opposition have less attempts on goal then previously. Also i toned down my WB´s to Automatic, so now they defend a lot more, and that shows onj the pitch. Still they get involved in attack when they can. Team much more balanced like this. Try it for size. Still mid season but am curious on final result: mainly points, trophys, goals scored, and goals against. here are some screenies: ME23.0KashmirKnap451tweakedtest.fmf Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted October 24, 2022 Author Share Posted October 24, 2022 ME 23.9 BETA ARGUS 3412 P101 EC CC ME23.0ARGUSknap3412DMP101ECC.fmf 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crusho79bv Posted October 24, 2022 Share Posted October 24, 2022 5 minutes ago, knap said: ME 23.9 BETA ARGUS 3412 P101 EC CC ME23.0ARGUSknap3412DMP101ECC.fmf 43.94 kB · 5 downloads You went Spursy with this one.... This is what Conte likes, 8 players in his own half and counter with 3.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted October 24, 2022 Author Share Posted October 24, 2022 ME 23.0 ARGUS 352 F9 P14 CC ME23.0ARGUSknap352F9P104CC.fmf 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
robertwebb745@gmail.com Posted October 24, 2022 Share Posted October 24, 2022 Is there a gegenpress 4231 about? Doing a ten Haag challenge, start at Eagles and aim manage Ajax until getting Man U job... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted October 24, 2022 Author Share Posted October 24, 2022 @robertwebb745@gmail.com They are all high press, formation probably 4231 DM Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geordie-John Posted October 24, 2022 Share Posted October 24, 2022 Do we have a good underdog/away tactic for fm23 yet? I usually use them to good effect with mid range prem team when going away to the big boys or if we make it to Europe Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted October 24, 2022 Author Share Posted October 24, 2022 @jborges Are you maverick Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted October 24, 2022 Author Share Posted October 24, 2022 ME 23.0 KASHMIR 451 P102 ME22.3KASHMIRKnap451P102.fmf Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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