Administrators Neil Brock Posted September 18, 2019 Administrators Share Posted September 18, 2019 We're proud to announce that Football Manager 2020 - The Arsenal Edition is available now via the FM Store. Arsenal announce video FINAL.mp4 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClaudeJ Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 Hey there, I'm curious, what's more in it than the kits? Could be great to have exclusive chants eg. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevemc Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 What happens if you've already pre-ordered the normal edition, but now want the Arsenal edition? (I don't, just curious). 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Neil Brock Posted September 18, 2019 Author Administrators Share Posted September 18, 2019 1 minute ago, stevemc said: What happens if you've already pre-ordered the normal edition, but now want the Arsenal edition? (I don't, just curious). It'd be a case of getting a refund from the retailer where you've originally purchased it (for instance Steam Refunds, FM Store Refunds) then re-ordering the Arsenal specific edition. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevemc Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 Cheers Neil, bit of a poor journey for those customers though. 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Huey Lewis Posted September 18, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted September 18, 2019 21 minutes ago, stevemc said: Cheers Neil, bit of a poor journey for those customers though. If they're Arsenal fans they're probably used to a bit of disappointment in their lives. 49 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post PenguinKenny Posted September 18, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted September 18, 2019 27 minutes ago, Neil Brock said: It'd be a case of getting a refund from the retailer where you've originally purchased it (for instance Steam Refunds, FM Store Refunds) then re-ordering the Arsenal specific edition. I think that making the most loyal customers who have already pre-ordered the game jump through hoops is pretty disappointing. It looks pretty unprofessional in my opinion. 11 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Novem9 Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 (edited) Are down jacket and 4th place in the pack? Edited September 18, 2019 by Novem9 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ferrarinseb Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 What's the Difference between standard edition and Arsenal edition? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elder Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 (edited) 4 minutes ago, ferrarinseb said: What's the Difference between standard edition and Arsenal edition? From the store page: "The officially licensed Arsenal Edition exclusively features the club crest, kits and the players’ faces, to give Arsenal fans the most authentic management experience possible. These features are not available in the Standard Edition." Edited September 18, 2019 by Elder Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ferrarinseb Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 Just now, Elder said: From the store page: "The officially licensed Arsenal Edition exclusively features the club crest, kits and the players’ faces, to give Arsenal fans the most authentic management experience possible. These features are not available in the Standard Edition." Thanks for info It seems that they changed the squad status to star / Regular and Squad player. Will they be reflected in contract's or just be in Coach/ Scout reports is yet to see. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armistice Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 Arsenal? No thanks 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post kandersson Posted September 18, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted September 18, 2019 (edited) Not sure I understand this. It' good that SI is looking to acquire more licenses and have real kits, faces etc though I'd expect they'd simply add those to the 'standard' game instead of releasing custom editions - maybe for multiple clubs? Don't see the point honestly. Edited September 18, 2019 by kandersson 24 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post kevhamster Posted September 18, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted September 18, 2019 34 minutes ago, Elder said: From the store page: "The officially licensed Arsenal Edition exclusively features the club crest, kits and the players’ faces, to give Arsenal fans the most authentic management experience possible. These features are not available in the Standard Edition." So nothing logo, kit and face packs can't sort then. Fair enough. 8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wesleymcuk Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 if you buy this on steam can you still play it on Google Stadia Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mistuhg Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 1 hour ago, kandersson said: Not sure I understand this. It' good that SI is looking to acquire more licenses and have real kits, faces etc though I'd expect they'd simply add those to the 'standard' game instead of releasing custom editions - maybe for multiple clubs? Don't see the point honestly. £££ 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OlivierL Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 I'm confused.. so the pictures and crest won't be in the normal FM edition ? Like before ? I'm using facepacks but this is strange ? Please give me the Royal Antwerp Edition Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kandersson Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 (edited) 36 minutes ago, mistuhg said: £££ Sure, I just don't see it working... Last year the Bundesliga license was a nice addition and was correctly marketed as a 'new' feature of the game. It's not like people are buying the Arsenal edition and then maybe the Chelsea or Liverpool edition separately to get all the licensed kits, faces and logos. Especially with all the packs provided by the community. Or maybe it will work well. Chacun à son goût I guess. Edited September 18, 2019 by kandersson Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gunner86 Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 49 minutes ago, mistuhg said: £££ Except it’s the same price... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevemc Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 13 minutes ago, gunner86 said: Except it’s the same price... It’s not, it’s roughly £10 dearer according to the FM website. https://store.footballmanager.com/eu/en/arsenal-edition?utm_source=fm&utm_medium=button&utm_campaign=arsenal#/cart Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevemc Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 (edited) It is a bit strange that for roughly £10 extra (£35.99 vs €49.49) an Arsenal fan can have a crest, couple of kits and player faces just for that one club, but they still have to play in the “Euro Cup” and “Premier Division” against other clubs which have no logos or branding so it’s not much of a realism gain overall. And coincidentally all of those extras are available within the community for free. It should just be part of the standard game for everyone to enjoy, like other licenses, still announce it as a new feature, just put the standard game up a £1 or so extra so it doesn’t impact the overall price too much and covers costs. Currently it’s only really an option for Arsenal supporting FM gamers, probably more as a collectible than anything, but for around £10 extra, it’s doesn’t shout value for money to me, if it was a Manchester United edition, it wouldn’t tempt me to pay it. Edited September 18, 2019 by stevemc Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bianconeri96 Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 Showing the same price for me between the 2 editions on the FMstore, €49.49. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubaRA7 Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 for me, arsenal edition is 5 e cheaper? it's 44.99 and standard edition is 49.49. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevemc Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 (edited) That’s what I’m seeing... (not logged into Steam) Edited September 18, 2019 by stevemc Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kandersson Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 4 minutes ago, bianconeri96 said: Showing the same price for me between the 2 editions on the FMstore, €49.49. Same here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivs Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 5 ore fa, Neil Brock ha scritto: We're proud to announce that Football Manager 2020 - The Arsenal Edition is available now via the FM Store. Arsenal announce video FINAL.mp4 24 MB · 0 downloads So, out of curiosity: another kit style change for the upcoming version of FM or it will be adopted just for the Gunners? Will this affect 3D mode, too? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dennie Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 now we need a ajax editions Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gunner86 Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 45 minutes ago, stevemc said: That’s what I’m seeing... (not logged into Steam) You know Euros aren't pounds right? Brexit etc etc I did the same thing at first, but if you change the store country to UK on the Arsenal edition it changes to £35.99 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevemc Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 (edited) 45 minutes ago, gunner86 said: You know Euros aren't pounds right? Brexit etc etc I did the same thing at first, but if you change the store country to UK on the Arsenal edition it changes to £35.99 Yes I know Euros ain’t Pounds, however the mobile site defaults to € when I try to buy the Arsenal edition (presumably that’s a bug) hence why when I converted €49 you get £44 at today’s exchange rate, which is roughly a £10 difference to the £35 standard edition £ price. Even so, at the same price, it’s only really appealing to an Arsenal FM gamer with the inability to download extra add ons for all teams/leagues, or a collector of hard copies of the game. If the price is the same, begs the question as to why not try to make the license available to all purchasers of the FM game, not just Arsenal fans? Then they are not segregating an audience. Then you’ll have a section of those Arsenal FM-gamers who will have already preordered are now left with a decision to stick with the standard edition or get a refund to re-purchase the Arsenal edition, potentially losing numbers against the Arsenal edition count. Edited September 18, 2019 by stevemc 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
emil_sbn Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 Why not fix the license for the PL instead of just one team, how op will Arsenal be in this game now? I know you can just download packs but if you want to play on the iPad thats not a possibilty. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CFuller Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 4 minutes ago, emil_sbn said: Why not fix the license for the PL instead of just one team, how op will Arsenal be in this game now? I'd imagine official licences for all Premier League clubs would be very, very expensive. Official badges and player photos won't suddenly make Arsenal overpowered, if that's what you're fearing. SI have/had licences for Everton and Watford, yet those teams aren't dominating the PL every year in FM, are they? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevemc Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 2 minutes ago, emil_sbn said: Why not fix the license for the PL instead of just one team They’ll be a whole host of reasons why they’ve not secured the full PL license, and I can’t imagine it would be easy to obtain or possibly even worth the initial outlay. I do think the Arsenal license is actually a positive step forward however I also think it’s a negative that it’s only available to selected purchases, hopefully that’s not a sign of things to come in regards to licensing... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubaRA7 Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 (edited) i'm confused now, anyone is able to buy Arsenal edition, no ? @stevemc Also i hope that skin won't be purple, actually quite like fm19 one but i would like to see new colour. Edited September 18, 2019 by dubaRA7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevemc Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 Just now, dubaRA7 said: i'm confused now, anyone is able to buy Arsenal edition, no ? @stevemc Yes anyone can buy it. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malicious Penguin Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 I love the new navigation bar at the top of player/team pages etc. Looks fantastic! And the blur in title bar. Squad player/regular starter etc too. Looking good guys! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exius Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 If they have a special edition, which is more expensive than the standard one, does it mean they'll make editing club logos and kits more difficult? Otherwise I see no reason to overpay for a single club logo, kits and facepack when you can get all these (and not just for one club) for free. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gunner86 Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 1 hour ago, Exius said: If they have a special edition, which is more expensive than the standard one, does it mean they'll make editing club logos and kits more difficult? Otherwise I see no reason to overpay for a single club logo, kits and facepack when you can get all these (and not just for one club) for free. Again. The price is identical. And it doesn't change anything else about the game, including how easy it is to add other graphics packs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 Why someone has to buy "Arsenal Edition" or "Special Edition" when she/he can download face, kit packs etc for free? I don't understand SI.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JordanMilly Posted September 19, 2019 Share Posted September 19, 2019 1 hour ago, Cadoni said: Why someone has to buy "Arsenal Edition" or "Special Edition" when she/he can download face, kit packs etc for free? I don't understand SI.. Probably because SI can't officially comment on the use of facepacks, etc, given that those are all things that SI would have to license to use, and if it appeared that they were actively supporting it, rather than just allowing it, it might get them into agro with leagues/teams. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martini Posted September 19, 2019 Share Posted September 19, 2019 This is the only upcoming edition?, I don't want to buy it and refund it for a new one Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigmattb28 Posted September 19, 2019 Share Posted September 19, 2019 Appreciate they're trying something new, but with face and logo packs available there's no reason to buy this version. Also no disrespect to Arsenal, but why them? Surely 1 of the Manchester teams would be more profitable and more likely to sell more copies? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevemc Posted September 19, 2019 Share Posted September 19, 2019 I think if it actually came with Arsenal 3D kits, advertising hoardings and their Emirates stadium within the match engine then they could be into something... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
超级足球狂热迷 Posted September 19, 2019 Share Posted September 19, 2019 Can you play more preview videos? Thank you Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
craiigman Posted September 19, 2019 Share Posted September 19, 2019 I know this has caused some controversy, and I can see why, should be included in all versions, and boxed version just comes with Arsenal branding. However PES' version of the Arsenal Edition was £10 more and was just box art. I believe there was an Arsenal Edition a number of years ago as well, which was just the same as this. Would rather see more features though, screenshots look very similar to last year so far. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gunner86 Posted September 19, 2019 Share Posted September 19, 2019 2 hours ago, stevemc said: I think if it actually came with Arsenal 3D kits, advertising hoardings and their Emirates stadium within the match engine then they could be into something... Now this in particular would be interesting. Not sure it's likely, but if it was then I would go for this edition. 23 minutes ago, craiigman said: I believe there was an Arsenal Edition a number of years ago as well, which was just the same as this Yes they did. I think it was around 2009ish. I bought that because at the time I was buying all the boxed editions and it looked nice on my shelf. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bazlowski Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 On 18/09/2019 at 14:09, Neil Brock said: We're proud to announce that Football Manager 2020 - The Arsenal Edition is available now via the FM Store. Arsenal announce video FINAL.mp4 24.17 MB · 0 downloads How about a nice complimentary copy for us poor long suffering Nvidia owners who only got about 6 months out of FM19 before the graphics went up the swany & made us stop playing it...? Come on Neil, you know it makes sense...! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CFuller Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 1 hour ago, bazlowski said: How about a nice complimentary copy for us poor long suffering Nvidia owners who only got about 6 months out of FM19 before the graphics went up the swany & made us stop playing it...? Come on Neil, you know it makes sense...! I have an Nvidia graphics card and have had absolutely no problems with graphics on FM19. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcp1417 Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 I believe this sets a very bad precedent. What if other PL teams only allow their license to be used if they get their own edition? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gunner86 Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 35 minutes ago, jcp1417 said: I believe this sets a very bad precedent. What if other PL teams only allow their license to be used if they get their own edition? Then we’ll all just continue using the same kit, logo and face packs we already do...? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcp1417 Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 3 minutes ago, gunner86 said: Then we’ll all just continue using the same kit, logo and face packs we already do...? well obviously, but i'm referring to the barrier that it would cause to get a full league license Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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