FM20 Performance Benchmarking Thread

[FMFutbol]

Type: Desktop

Model: Mac Pro 2010 Model

CPU Model: Intel Quad-core Xeon

CPU Base Frequency: 2.8GHz

CPU Turbo Frequency: 

RAM: 32GB

RAM Clockspeed: 1066Mhz DDR3

GPU: AMD Radeon 7950 3GB

Storage Type: SSD

 

Benchmark A: 1 min 55 Sec

Benchmark B: 13 min 38 Sec

Benchmark C: 14 min 38 Sec

[Bigpole]

I wanted to post overclocked cpu scores but AMD wraith stealth cooler is crap when I test @3.9 in occt. And because of quarantine I don't really wanna risk going out and buying a new one. So probably I'll only try to hit 3600Mhz CL16/14 with ram and see if that makes any noticeable difference.

[Brother Ben]

@FMFutbol great scores for a ten year old cpu, would have been an expensive beast at the time

i’ll update the spreadsheet in work tomorrow 

@Bigpole quarantine sucks but better safe than sorry.  I thought the wraith coolers were meant to be pretty good?

Edited March 22, 2020 by Brother Ben

[Bigpole]

2 hours ago, Brother Ben said:

@FMFutbol great scores for a ten year old cpu, would have been an expensive beast at the time

i’ll update the spreadsheet in work tomorrow 

@Bigpole quarantine sucks but better safe than sorry.  I thought the wraith coolers were meant to be pretty good?

spire and prism are, stealth are not good for overclocking. I didn't expect 4.0 on stock but these temps on 3.9 are worrying sometimes (in games like poe or racing games I had 80-85 max, but on benchmarks it was spiking to 100).

[jonpt]

22 hours ago, Bigpole said:

spire and prism are, stealth are not good for overclocking. I didn't expect 4.0 on stock but these temps on 3.9 are worrying sometimes (in games like poe or racing games I had 80-85 max, but on benchmarks it was spiking to 100).

On my 2600x I found that adding a 240mm AIO did not help me overclock any further than 3.9. I then changed my motherboard to an MSI gaming x one (from a cheap gigabyte) and was able to get 4.2ghz.😀

[Bigpole]

1 hour ago, jonpt said:

On my 2600x I found that adding a 240mm AIO did not help me overclock any further than 3.9. I then changed my motherboard to an MSI gaming x one (from a cheap gigabyte) and was able to get 4.2ghz.😀

I have msi b450 a-pro max with okay vrm section so it couldn't be mobo

[maaartio]

Type: PC

Model:

CPU Model: i7 - 3770k

CPU Base Frequency: 3.5GHz

CPU Turbo Frequency: 4.30GHz (OC)

RAM: 8GB

RAM Clockspeed: 1600Mhz (DDR3)

GPU: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 770- 2GB

Storage Type: SSD

 

Benchmark A: 1 min 37 Sec

Benchmark B: 10 min 44 Sec

Benchmark C: 12 min 08 Sec

Edited March 25, 2020 by maaartio

[alcedo]

Type: Desktop

Model: iMac 27” (Late 2012)

CPU Model: Intel i7 - 3770

CPU Base Frequency: 3.4 GHz

CPU Turbo Frequency: 3.9 GHz

RAM: 24GB

RAM Clockspeed: 1600Mhz

GPU: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 680MX - 2GB

Storage Type: “Fusion Drive” (SSD+HDD)

 

Benchmark A: 1 min 17 Sec

Benchmark B: 9 min 43 Sec

Benchmark C: 10 min 28 Sec

[nabildx]

Type : Laptop

Model : ASUS TUF GAMING FX504

CPU Model : Intel i5 - 8300H

CPU Base Frequency : 2.3 GHz

CPU Turbo Frequency : 4 GHz

RAM : 12 GB

RAM Clockspeed : 2667 MHz

GPU : NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1050 - 4 GB

Storage Type : SSD

 

Benchmark A: 1 min 32 Sec

Benchmark B: 10 min 49 Sec

Benchmark C: 12 min 32 Sec

[Brother Ben]

Thanks for the recent tests folks, second post now updated

Its starting to take shape a little now.  

[FMFutbol]

looking good. keep it up.

[Cob]

TYPE: Laptop

Model: HP PROBOOK 450 G3

CPU Model: i3 - 6100U

CPU Base Frequency: 2.3 GHz

CPU Turbo Frequency: 2.3 GHz

RAM: 8GB

RAM Clockspeed: 1600Mhz

GPU: Intel HD Graphics 520

Storage Type: SSD

 

Benchmark A: 2 min 34 Sec

Benchmark B: 19 min 11 Sec

Benchmark C: 31 min 20 Sec

 

 

I'm not last \o/

Edited April 5, 2020 by Cob
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[BMNJohn]

I'm not too impressed in how FM uses my processing power. That being said I don't know anything about software and coding, so a genuine question would be to ask to the devs: considering the frequency ship has sailed for CPUs in favour of higher core/thread count even in laptops/notebooks, how SI could potentially adapt their software towards this new paradigm? How do the devs see the way FM processes evolve moving forward?

Anyway... Ryzen 5 3600 (non-X), 16GB 3600MHz CL16 RAM overclocked, RTX 2060 Super.

Bench A: 01:12.70;
Bench B: 07:45.72;
Bench C: 07:00.37.

I should probably ask Afterburner to do some performance logs someday. Or maybe try out OCAT.

 

Edited April 11, 2020 by BMNJohn

[Brother Ben]

2 hours ago, BMNJohn said:

I'm not too impressed in how FM uses my processing power. That being said I don't know anything about software and coding, so a genuine question would be to ask to the devs: considering the frequency ship has sailed for CPUs in favour of higher core/thread count even in laptops/notebooks, how SI could potentially adapt their software towards this new paradigm? How do the devs see the way FM processes evolve moving forward?

Anyway... Ryzen 5 3600 (non-X), 16GB 3600MHz CL16 RAM overclocked, RTX 2060 Super.

Bench A: 01:12.70;
Bench B: 07:45.72;
Bench C: 07:00.37.

I should probably ask Afterburner to do some performance logs someday. Or maybe try out OCAT.

 

It is getting better, it's not perfect though.  

Are those graphs from benchmark C?

Edited April 11, 2020 by Brother Ben

[BMNJohn]

4 hours ago, Brother Ben said:

It is getting better, it's not perfect though.  

Are those graphs from benchmark C?

Oh no, it's a snapshot of FM in general with a few dozen leagues in Basic detail. But if you want logs for Benchmark C, I can produce that in a very non-legible way.

It's better spread out while still concentrated on the same 4 threads as before, but I suppose that ideally you wouldn't need to be on full-details to have FM spread the load more evenly. It's not that you cannot find a way to have FM to scale; but that maybe in an ideal world, FM would spread the usage over multiple cores and threads regardless of the level of detail, so that it's an useful behaviour in more situations than benchmarking at full detail.

Edited April 11, 2020 by BMNJohn

[Brother Ben]

Really interesting stuff there John, you're correct of course and in fairness they have made massive improvements in this area.  Don't forget it wasn't long ago that FM was a 32 bit app, the difference from then to now is night and day. 

Hopefully some SI bods can give a bit of context to what we see on your charts and maybe give us an idea of where multi thread/core support is headed.  I know @EdL has been kind enough to post on this thread so maybe he'll be able to shed some light on it or know someone who will

[MarkFB]

Type: Desktop

CPU Model:Ryzen 7 3700x

CPU Base Frequency: 3.6GHz

CPU Turbo Frequency: 4.4GHz

RAM: 16GB (2x8)

RAM Clockspeed: 3200MHz

GPU: AMD Radeon HD 6850

Storage Type: NVME Samsung 870 Evo 500GB

OS: Windows 10 1909 X64 

Benchmark A: 1 min 04s

Benchmark B: 6 min 52s

Benchmark C: 5 min 37s

[Brother Ben]

@MarkFB Is that graphics card the 1GB variety?  How does it perform in FM?  

edit - spreadsheet updated

Edited April 16, 2020 by Brother Ben

[Guest]

On 12/04/2020 at 09:24, MarkFB said:

Type: Desktop

CPU Model:Ryzen 7 3700x

CPU Base Frequency: 3.6GHz

CPU Turbo Frequency: 4.4GHz

RAM: 16GB (2x8)

RAM Clockspeed: 3200MHz

GPU: AMD Radeon HD 6850

Storage Type: NVME Samsung 870 Evo 500GB

OS: Windows 10 1909 X64 

Benchmark A: 1 min 04s

Benchmark B: 6 min 52s

Benchmark C: 5 min 37s

A beautiful beast!

[MarkFB]

 

8 hours ago, Brother Ben said:

@MarkFB Is that graphics card the 1GB variety?  How does it perform in FM?  

edit - spreadsheet updated

Certainly is the 1GB version. Seems to run FM20 just fine despite lagging behind the rest of the PC in the modern stakes! Contemplating upgrading to a GEFORCE RTX 2060 soon.

[Cob]

Built a little Ryzen 5 1600 AF desktop this morning. Quite a difference to the laptop I've been using for the past few years -

Type: Desktop

Model: Custom

CPU Model: AMD Ryzen 5 1600 AF

CPU Base Frequency: 3.2GHZ

CPU Turbo Frequency: 3.60 GHz

RAM: 8GB

RAM Clockspeed: 3200Mhz DDR4

GPU: AMD Radeon RX 470 - 8GB

Storage Type: M.2. SSD

 

Benchmark A: 1 min 26 Sec

Benchmark B: 8 min 56 Sec

Benchmark C: 8 min 17 Sec

Edited April 18, 2020 by Cob

[Brother Ben]

On 16/04/2020 at 18:29, MarkFB said:

 

Certainly is the 1GB version. Seems to run FM20 just fine despite lagging behind the rest of the PC in the modern stakes! Contemplating upgrading to a GEFORCE RTX 2060 soon.

I've got a gtx 760 myself , 2gb, runs FM on very high.  I'm not a gamer (bar FM) so it will probably follow me to my next build

 

[Brother Ben]

2 hours ago, Cob said:

Built a little Ryzen 5 1600 AF desktop this morning. Quite a difference to the laptop I've been using for the past few years -

Type: Desktop

Model: Custom

CPU Model: AMD Ryzen 5 1600 AF

CPU Base Frequency: 3.2GHZ

CPU Turbo Frequency: 3.60 GHz

RAM: 8GB

RAM Clockspeed: 3200Mhz DDR4

GPU: AMD Radeon RX 470 - 8GB

Storage Type: M.2. SSD

 

Benchmark A: 1 min 26 Sec

Benchmark B: 8 min 56 Sec

Benchmark C: 8 min 17 Sec

Do you mind me asking the cost?

As I've mentioned on the thread before, I'm willing to bet this will be the price v performance winner in terms of processor

Edited April 18, 2020 by Brother Ben

[Cob]

17 minutes ago, Brother Ben said:

Do you mind me asking the cost?

As I've mentioned on the thread before, I'm willing to bet this will be the price v performance winner in terms of processor

1600 AF was £90. It, motherboard and RAM came to £175.

[saintrainhard]

To encourage more people to involved, this must be from developer. SI should develop 1 click benchmark inside the game, the concept itself like CPU benchmarking, then give summary / result score for every PC user involved

And if the user is online, they can compare their machine with all machine data gathered based on benchmark result gathered from this feature.

Furthermore, SI can give suggestion what to improve from your machine to get more convenience in playing FM, this can be source of income if SI collaborate with pc part provider and get commission fee from their recommendation

[Wizard of Oz]

My results below:

Type: Desktop

CPU Model: Intel Core i7 2600

CPU Base Frequency: 3.40 Ghz (I have never fiddled with this)

RAM: 16GB DDR3

RAM Clockspeed: 665 MHz (Not sure whether this is the right number)

GPU: Nvidia Geforce GTX 1060 6GB

Storage Type: SSD

Benchmark A: 02 Mins 09 Secs

Benchmark B: 15 Mins 18 Secs

Benchmark C: 16 Mins 56 Secs

So no surprise I'm at the lower end of the time as my build is pretty old now.  Any idea's or suggestions to improve speed without upgrading my PC ?

 

[BMNJohn]

7 hours ago, Wizard of Oz said:

So no surprise I'm at the lower end of the time as my build is pretty old now.  Any idea's or suggestions to improve speed without upgrading my PC ?

Run less fully-loaded leagues, and run the remaining ones with a lower level of detail. To be honest, if we had a setting or a mod that improved how FM run for everyone without taking anything away from the experience, we'd sticky that because that would be useful to everyone. But there isn't.
That being said, if you have a 2600K and not a 2600 as well as a compatible motherboard, those CPUs had a tendency to overclock really well. If it's a 2600 without a K at the end, well you're stuck with what you've got.

Edited May 3, 2020 by BMNJohn

[Brother Ben]

11 hours ago, Wizard of Oz said:

My results below:

Type: Desktop

CPU Model: Intel Core i7 2600

CPU Base Frequency: 3.40 Ghz (I have never fiddled with this)

RAM: 16GB DDR3

RAM Clockspeed: 665 MHz (Not sure whether this is the right number)

GPU: Nvidia Geforce GTX 1060 6GB

Storage Type: SSD

Benchmark A: 02 Mins 09 Secs

Benchmark B: 15 Mins 18 Secs

Benchmark C: 16 Mins 56 Secs

So no surprise I'm at the lower end of the time as my build is pretty old now.  Any idea's or suggestions to improve speed without upgrading my PC ?

 

I wouldn't worry too much, the PC's tested here tend to be top end ones, your scores are very respectable considering the age of the hardware.  This is why I put Benchmark A in, it shows in a typical setup that you aren't that far away in terms of performance.

The reality is that to get better performance you need to run less Nations/Leagues, its all relative though, if you're the kind of person who only plays a couple of seasons then you can get away with more running.  If you play for 20+ then it'll need to be less as the game gets slower the longer you play

As @BMNJohn has said above, a good trick is to lower the detail, shown below.  

[Wizard of Oz]

Thanks both - yeah I tend to play with just the main European leagues plus UK & Ireland and I still get OK speeds to be honest.   I find anything up to around 75k player count still runs fine, even into the future. 

 

From a detail perspective i Just run the major international tournaments plus the division I'm in and that nations cup competitions ion full.  That gives me enough depth to feel immersed and it dosen't seem to run too slow.

 

[quqlock]

Hello everyone,

 

Type: Laptop

Model: Lenovo E460

CPU Model: i5-6200u

CPU Base Frequency: 2.30 GHz

CPU Turbo Frequency: 2.40 GHz

RAM: 16GB

RAM Clockspeed: 1600Mhz

GPU: Intel HD Graphics 520

Storage Type: SSD

 

Here are my results:

Benchmark A: 3 min 13 Sec

Benchmark B: 21 min 34 Sec

Benchmark C: 41 min 37 Sec

So...Now I'am last in this ranking, it's definitely time for a new laptop I think   

[Brother Ben]

1 hour ago, quqlock said:

Hello everyone,

 

Type: Laptop

Model: Lenovo E460

CPU Model: i5-6200u

CPU Base Frequency: 2.30 GHz

CPU Turbo Frequency: 2.40 GHz

RAM: 16GB

RAM Clockspeed: 1600Mhz

GPU: Intel HD Graphics 520

Storage Type: SSD

 

Here are my results:

Benchmark A: 3 min 13 Sec

Benchmark B: 21 min 34 Sec

Benchmark C: 41 min 37 Sec

So...Now I'am last in this ranking, it's definitely time for a new laptop I think   

Bear in mind most of these are desktop results and your laptop is built for power reduction not speed.  If you want a speedier laptop look for one that doesn't have "U" at the end of the model, "H" is what you're after although they may be a little less portable.  Feel free to PM me with your budget and i'll have a root around for a good deal for you 

[RHKC]

Maybe a stupid question, but what does turning up/down the detail levels actually do in terms of gameplay?

 

Played FM since 2006 and never noticed detail levels 

[Brother Ben]

11 minutes ago, RHKC said:

Maybe a stupid question, but what does turning up/down the detail levels actually do in terms of gameplay?

 

Played FM since 2006 and never noticed detail levels 

It's just more realistic but at a heavy cost on your processor, it will process matches properly.  With full detail turned off it will process based on reputation etc iirc

You may find the feature useful though by actually being able to turn off detail level for any leagues you aren't managing in to speed things up, putting all other leagues to minimum is pretty much the first thing I do when starting a new save

Overall full detail is only really good for delving into stats in leagues you aren't in, for example if you scout a player in a league on full detail then I would imagine his average rating will be a more realistic reflection of his ability than a league using the quick match engine

Edited May 15, 2020 by Brother Ben

[RHKC]

2 hours ago, Brother Ben said:

It's just more realistic but at a heavy cost on your processor, it will process matches properly.  With full detail turned off it will process based on reputation etc iirc

You may find the feature useful though by actually being able to turn off detail level for any leagues you aren't managing in to speed things up, putting all other leagues to minimum is pretty much the first thing I do when starting a new save

Overall full detail is only really good for delving into stats in leagues you aren't in, for example if you scout a player in a league on full detail then I would imagine his average rating will be a more realistic reflection of his ability than a league using the quick match engine

 

 

Thank you for the explanation, I appreciate it!

[Brother Ben]

1 hour ago, RHKC said:

 

 

Thank you for the explanation, I appreciate it!

No worries, I think a lot of people don't realise that its there or probably think when people say full detail they mean active

[FMFutbol]

anybody else want to contribute?

[sutnopG]

Hello, 

Type: Laptop

Model: Macbook Pro 16"

CPU Model: i9 (8 cores)

CPU Base Frequency: 2.4GHz

CPU Turbo Frequency: 5.00 GHz

RAM: 32GB

RAM Clockspeed: 2666 MHz

GPU: AMD Radeon Pro 5500M 8gb

Storage Type: SSD

 

Benchmark A: 56 sec

Benchmark B: 7min 10sec

Benchmark C: 6min 16sec

[Brother Ben]

Thanks guys, i'll update the list when I get a chance

Edited May 25, 2020 by Brother Ben

[XaW]

Type: Laptop

Model: HP Omen 15-dc1877no

CPU Model: i7-9750H

CPU Base Frequency: 2.6GHz

CPU Turbo Frequency: 4.50 GHz

RAM: 16GB

RAM Clockspeed: Can't find it!

GPU: Nvidia GeForce RTX 2060

Storage Type: SSD

 

Benchmark A: 1 min 13 Sec

Benchmark B: 8 min 4 Sec

Benchmark C: 8 min 12 Sec

[Brother Ben]

Thanks @XaW thats quite a laptop you have there.  I assume you can run the maximum graphics setting.  Thinking of adding FM 3D graphics capability to the spreadsheet for FM21 Benchmarking

With that in mind is there anything that anyone would like added to next seasons version or any changes you'd like in the tests.  I'm tempted to keep it the same to provide a direct comparison with this year although obviously it's pretty hard to create the exact conditions

The type of things I was thinking about are 

• a test 10 years into the future to ascertain the performance degradation over long term saves
• an uber simple test with a small database and just one league running to prove that FM will literally run on anything

Obviously though it's a balancing act as I don't want to put people off with too many tests

Thoughts?

[XaW]

13 minutes ago, Brother Ben said:

Thanks @XaW thats quite a laptop you have there.  I assume you can run the maximum graphics setting.  Thinking of adding FM 3D graphics capability to the spreadsheet for FM21 Benchmarking

With that in mind is there anything that anyone would like added to next seasons version or any changes you'd like in the tests.  I'm tempted to keep it the same to provide a direct comparison with this year although obviously it's pretty hard to create the exact conditions

The type of things I was thinking about are 

• a test 10 years into the future to ascertain the performance degradation over long term saves
• an uber simple test with a small database and just one league running to prove that FM will literally run on anything

Obviously though it's a balancing act as I don't want to put people off with too many tests

Thoughts?

Yeah, I just bought it, and went a bit overboard. Still, I had had my old laptop for a long time, so I figured I'd treat myself. I'm running "very high" on every setting I've found. I'd be happy to run additional tests, but I can see not everyone being bothered. Perhaps letting people run whatever tests they want is fine? Say you create 5 benchmarks and tell people, test whichever you want/can/are bothered to do?

[Brother Ben]

9 minutes ago, XaW said:

Yeah, I just bought it, and went a bit overboard. Still, I had had my old laptop for a long time, so I figured I'd treat myself. I'm running "very high" on every setting I've found. I'd be happy to run additional tests, but I can see not everyone being bothered. Perhaps letting people run whatever tests they want is fine? Say you create 5 benchmarks and tell people, test whichever you want/can/are bothered to do?

Cheers for the reply, it's a tough balancing act, in a way the more people that do the tests the better even if the results reveal less.  I'll have to mull it over between now and FM21

[diimaan]

Type: Laptop

Model: Dell G5 5590

CPU Model: i7 - 8750H

CPU Base Frequency: 2.2GHz

CPU Turbo Frequency: 4.1GHz

RAM: 32GB

RAM Clockspeed: 2666Mhz

GPU: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2070 with Max-Q

Storage Type: CORSAIR Force MP510 NVMe PCIe 1920 GB

 

Benchmark A: 1 min 15 Sec

Benchmark B: 8 min 03 Sec

Benchmark C: 8 min 33 Sec

Edited May 26, 2020 by diimaan

[Brother Ben]

Spreadsheet in post 2 updated with the latest results, big thanks to all those who have done the tests so far  

[AlWakRa]

Say hi to the slowest performer here, I came to check how other laptops perform, found out I have an account here, so I gave it a shot.

Type: Laptop

Model: Macbook 15 Retina (Early 2013) running Win10

CPU Model: i7 - 3635QM

CPU Base Frequency: 2.4GHz

CPU Turbo Frequency: 3.40 GHz

RAM: 8GB

RAM Clockspeed: 1600Mhz

GPU: NVIDIA GeForce 650M - 1GB

Storage Type: SSD (game is installed into external SSD connected by USB 3 port)

Benchmark 1: 4:19

So I raised the white flag after that, but repeated the test with another configuration, as I already had some mods and image packs, so I made a new game folder and started the game without any of them, and I finished it in 3:00 minutes. Also, I noticed it doesn't utilize the processor fully, maybe 50% only, which it could be my cpu throttling. I am waiting for a new laptop to arrive, I will try to share the results later. 

[Brother Ben]

8 hours ago, AlWakRa said:

Say hi to the slowest performer here, I came to check how other laptops perform, found out I have an account here, so I gave it a shot.

Type: Laptop

Model: Macbook 15 Retina (Early 2013) running Win10

CPU Model: i7 - 3635QM

CPU Base Frequency: 2.4GHz

CPU Turbo Frequency: 3.40 GHz

RAM: 8GB

RAM Clockspeed: 1600Mhz

GPU: NVIDIA GeForce 650M - 1GB

Storage Type: SSD (game is installed into external SSD connected by USB 3 port)

Benchmark 1: 4:19

So I raised the white flag after that, but repeated the test with another configuration, as I already had some mods and image packs, so I made a new game folder and started the game without any of them, and I finished it in 3:00 minutes. Also, I noticed it doesn't utilize the processor fully, maybe 50% only, which it could be my cpu throttling. I am waiting for a new laptop to arrive, I will try to share the results later. 

Thanks for doing the test, actually despite being old your processor is pretty good and should be performing much better, in fact a lot better.  Based on other results here you should be getting under 2 minutes for benchmark A 

My guess is that you are correct and it is throttling because of overheating due to excessive dust or maybe even a faulty cooling fan.  Might be worth opening it up and cleaning it out, there's a how to video here.  I usually open mine up once a year for a thorough clean.  At the very least you may get a few quid for it on ebay 

[AlWakRa]

On 04/06/2020 at 09:12, Brother Ben said:

Thanks for doing the test, actually despite being old your processor is pretty good and should be performing much better, in fact a lot better.  Based on other results here you should be getting under 2 minutes for benchmark A 

My guess is that you are correct and it is throttling because of overheating due to excessive dust or maybe even a faulty cooling fan.  Might be worth opening it up and cleaning it out, there's a how to video here.  I usually open mine up once a year for a thorough clean.  At the very least you may get a few quid for it on ebay 

 

Dust may be a factor, I launched MacOS and installed the game, a fresh install, I did the benchmarks and it was a big big difference,

Benchmark 1: 1:41

Benchmark 2: 12:39

Benchmark 4: 15:18

So I suspect it is more related to drivers issue, maybe Apple didn't care to optimize the fans behaviour to be very efficient on windows 10, as I tried many times to check if there is any updates for it, but it doesn't matter now as I am changing to one with much better gpu performance. 

[Brother Ben]

4 hours ago, AlWakRa said:

 

Dust may be a factor, I launched MacOS and installed the game, a fresh install, I did the benchmarks and it was a big big difference,

Benchmark 1: 1:41

Benchmark 2: 12:39

Benchmark 4: 15:18

So I suspect it is more related to drivers issue, maybe Apple didn't care to optimize the fans behaviour to be very efficient on windows 10, as I tried many times to check if there is any updates for it, but it doesn't matter now as I am changing to one with much better gpu performance. 

That’s a lot better, performs exactly how I would expect that processor to.

Whats the specs on your new model?

[AlWakRa]

I got Asus zephyrus m15 with i7-10750h, 16gb 3200mhz ram, 1tb ssd, rtx2060, but with 4k panel for color accuracy as I work on photo editing a lot, should perform very similar to the one here with 9750h, wanted to get a ryzen 4000 based laptop but nothing with good screen panel. 

[Brother Ben]

35 minutes ago, AlWakRa said:

I got Asus zephyrus m15 with i7-10750h, 16gb 3200mhz ram, 1tb ssd, rtx2060, but with 4k panel for color accuracy as I work on photo editing a lot, should perform very similar to the one here with 9750h, wanted to get a ryzen 4000 based laptop but nothing with good screen panel. 

Yeah I would expect similar although it's turbo speed is significantly better, so if it can maintain that speed with decent cooling then it may surprise you and get closer to the i9-9980HK's

Look forward to your results