lfds89 Posted September 18, 2020 Share Posted September 18, 2020 It's only a google translation, still I believe it's readable. Don't know if this is the right place to post this, but as there's so much interest on replications, I figured people here would be interested. In short, he doens't add much: Pep's Barça is his role model. Pirlo Thesis 2020 - EN Translation.pdf 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
skyline72 Posted September 19, 2020 Share Posted September 19, 2020 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
goku4 Posted September 19, 2020 Share Posted September 19, 2020 Theory is nothing worth, if you can not translate it on the pitch. There have been very very exceptional young German managers in the last few years who were compared to Tuchel and Nagelsmann, who were top of their classes (same academy Nagelsmann visited) but still failed extremely bad. Hannes Wolf is one greate example. Top of his class and now even in Belgium, has been fired like after 4-5 weeks (37 years old and already been fired at 4 different clubs). I will wait for Pirlo's first serious appearances in the champions league whether these things he has written in his thesis are applicable on the pitch. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
axelmuller Posted September 19, 2020 Share Posted September 19, 2020 Pirlo clearly has been browsing some material by Özil to the Arsenal. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
summatsupeer Posted September 20, 2020 Share Posted September 20, 2020 I laughed at the #1 defensive objective... don't concede. Thats like saying the #1 attacking objective is to score! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Footix Posted September 20, 2020 Share Posted September 20, 2020 9 minutes ago, summatsupeer said: I laughed at the #1 defensive objective... don't concede. Thats like saying the #1 attacking objective is to score! "We lost because we didn't win." - Ronaldo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Djeon36 Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 Has anyone tried to re-create this in FM yet? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bot Makel Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 The thesis is very elementary, there is nothing original or particularly complex. There are discussions on this forum that are far better and more interesting. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haiku Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 1 hour ago, Bot Makel said: The thesis is very elementary, there is nothing original or particularly complex. There are discussions on this forum that are far better and more interesting. In many ways simple tactics are more effective than complex ones. The primary reason being simple, means easy to comprehend and execute by most players and secondly simple things are usually tried and proven in the past. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
summatsupeer Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 I've only seen highlights which didn't show much. Looked like a back 3, WB's stayed wide, CM pair held midfield with wide forwards roaming and coming inside with Ronaldo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bot Makel Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 I'm not talking about tactics! I'm talking about the ideas inside in a thesis written to become a coach. I would expect something more. There are theses of much less famous coaches that are much more interesting and with some ideas to take into consideration. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
maximilli Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 19 minutes ago, Bot Makel said: I'm talking about the ideas inside in a thesis written to become a coach. I would expect something more. I wouldn't read too much into it. As far as I know, he had to finish it pretty quickly before the season starts and maybe also didn't want to reveal all his plans. 29 minutes ago, summatsupeer said: I've only seen highlights which didn't show much. Looked like a back 3, WB's stayed wide, CM pair held midfield with wide forwards roaming and coming inside with Ronaldo. It started off as 4 at the back but during attack became 3. Frabotta would join the attack more and Danilo stayed back. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bot Makel Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 (edited) 6 minutes ago, maximilli said: I wouldn't read too much into it. As far as I know, he had to finish it pretty quickly before the season starts and maybe also didn't want to reveal all his plans. Absolutely not, he could have easily trained without giving the thesis like so many others do. The reality is that having no direct experience on the pitch (as a coach) he has only included elements in theory that do not always match what actually happens on the pitch. Edited September 21, 2020 by Bot Makel Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
maximilli Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 3 minutes ago, Bot Makel said: Absolutely not, he could have easily trained without giving the thesis like so many others do. I thought you can't manage a team in Serie A without UEFA Pro license. Either way, the game wasn't perfect but looked good. His tactics worked and looked better than almost any game played under Sarri, though it was against Sampdoria. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bot Makel Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 (edited) 9 minutes ago, maximilli said: I thought you can't manage a team in Serie A without UEFA Pro license. Either way, the game wasn't perfect but looked good. His tactics worked and looked better than almost any game played under Sarri, though it was against Sampdoria. You can train with a permit while taking the course. Thiago Motta completed the course with Pirlo but has already trained last year. I'm not talking about tactics or movements on the pitch. Pirlo has a staff that helps him in preparing for matches and training. I am only talking about what I read in your thesis. I stop here. And I am disappointed. I was expecting something more. I believe in Pirlo, I'm a Juventus fan, my name is Andrea and I come from Brescia in Italy like him. :P Edited September 21, 2020 by Bot Makel Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
afailed10 Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 Nothing too special in that thesis but the ideas are coherent and without sounding too abstract like most things you read around, such as "I want to play attacking football". Instead, he seems to have a clear understanding of how he wants his team to play. I did an interpretation but he as he wrote it's not about a formation or a system but the principles and taking the best of the players available. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sporadicsmiles Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 Nice to know Pirlo reads these forums and listens to our advice about thinking about what you want your players to do, how you want to play in all four phases of the game (attack, defence, attacking and defensive transitions), and how he wants to achieve that. Now I shall await his complaints that the game is scripted after someone beats his team in a smash and grab! (I jest, nobody overreact ). I admit a lot of things are lost in the translation, but the ideas are pretty clear to me. I actually think the forum should start to explicitly discuss play in terms of the 4 phases, to get people used to thinking about them both individually, and how they combine together to form a whole tactical system. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptCanuck Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 I imagine him dictating this amongst a bevie of beauties, on a terrasse, overlooking Lake Cuomo. Thanks for the link OP :-) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
skyline72 Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lfds89 Posted September 25, 2020 Author Share Posted September 25, 2020 On 21/09/2020 at 08:04, Bot Makel said: The thesis is very elementary, there is nothing original or particularly complex. There are discussions on this forum that are far better and more interesting. Sure. Was expecting much more from Pirlo. After the first game (where he played 4-4-2 switching to 3-5-2), I would say he wrote this just to have the thesis done. I'm guessing he wouldn't want to give away everything. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bielsadidnothingwrong Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 On 21/09/2020 at 00:04, Bot Makel said: The thesis is very elementary, there is nothing original or particularly complex. There are discussions on this forum that are far better and more interesting. really wish Juve would’ve accepted my resumé! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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