goosey3131 Posted April 9, 2023 Share Posted April 9, 2023 47 minutes ago, Gangor said: As far as I can see the Ryzen processor is going to be more performant (and possibly more power efficient if you're away from the wall). That's hardly surprising because it's newer and has more cores. On the other hand, a "new" laptop ought to have a longer warranty and you won't have issues like a partly worn out battery. Thanks, Gangor. I've taken the risk and gone with the refurb. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevhamster Posted April 9, 2023 Author Share Posted April 9, 2023 4 hours ago, goosey3131 said: Thanks for the feedback. It's a toss up between that and this refurb Aspire 5: https://www.currys.co.uk/products/acer-aspire-5-15.6-refurbished-laptop-amd-ryzen-7-512-gb-ssd-grey-excellent-condition-10246542.html If you're happy to go for a refurb model then the Ryzen 7 here is a stronger CPU. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
steff91 Posted April 12, 2023 Share Posted April 12, 2023 Hi guys how many leagues and nations,player count,could i load in when setting up my new save Ive included my dxdiag here as well.. Thanks in advance. DxDiag.txt Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevhamster Posted April 12, 2023 Author Share Posted April 12, 2023 13 minutes ago, steff91 said: Hi guys how many leagues and nations,player count,could i load in when setting up my new save Ive included my dxdiag here as well.. Thanks in advance. DxDiag.txt 118.06 kB · 0 downloads As per the OP, we don't comment on how many leagues etc you can run with a specific setup, as how acceptable the processing speed is would be completely subjective. Try the benchmark tests in the thread below and see how your setup compares with others and then perhaps judge it from there. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gee_Simpson Posted April 12, 2023 Share Posted April 12, 2023 (edited) @kevhamster @Gangor Do you think this is a good deal? https://www.ebuyer.com/1597166-alphasync-sapphire-amd-ryzen-5-7600x-nvidia-geforce-rtx-4070ti-gaming-pc-as-d6772?_sgm_campaign=scn_8715392e6c000&_sgm_source=1597166&_sgm_action=click Or this for £300+ more: https://www.awd-it.co.uk/awd-it-hyte-y60-ryzen-5-7600x-six-core-rtx-4070-ti-12gb-windows-11-pc-gaming-pc.html?config=14937-174858,14946-175008,14949-175062,14952-175065,14955-175119,14958-175125,14964-175179,14967-175197,14973-345481,14979-175233,14982-175245,17625-197846,23400-252467,23599-306170,24481-267086,27747-309312,31198-345469,31306-346480 I'm looking at AMD now so I can upgrade the CPU in a year or two for a boost in speed. Buying Intel 13th gen now would require a new motherboard in the future if I wanted to upgrade the CPU. Edited April 12, 2023 by Gee_Simpson Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevhamster Posted April 12, 2023 Author Share Posted April 12, 2023 58 minutes ago, Gee_Simpson said: @kevhamster @Gangor Do you think this is a good deal? https://www.ebuyer.com/1597166-alphasync-sapphire-amd-ryzen-5-7600x-nvidia-geforce-rtx-4070ti-gaming-pc-as-d6772?_sgm_campaign=scn_8715392e6c000&_sgm_source=1597166&_sgm_action=click Or this for £300+ more: https://www.awd-it.co.uk/awd-it-hyte-y60-ryzen-5-7600x-six-core-rtx-4070-ti-12gb-windows-11-pc-gaming-pc.html?config=14937-174858,14946-175008,14949-175062,14952-175065,14955-175119,14958-175125,14964-175179,14967-175197,14973-345481,14979-175233,14982-175245,17625-197846,23400-252467,23599-306170,24481-267086,27747-309312,31198-345469,31306-346480 I'm looking at AMD now so I can upgrade the CPU in a year or two for a boost in speed. Buying Intel 13th gen now would require a new motherboard in the future if I wanted to upgrade the CPU. Both are good deals for the spec. If you can afford the extra £300 then it looks a good shout to me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gangor Posted April 12, 2023 Share Posted April 12, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, Gee_Simpson said: @kevhamster @Gangor Do you think this is a good deal? https://www.ebuyer.com/1597166-alphasync-sapphire-amd-ryzen-5-7600x-nvidia-geforce-rtx-4070ti-gaming-pc-as-d6772?_sgm_campaign=scn_8715392e6c000&_sgm_source=1597166&_sgm_action=click Or this for £300+ more: https://www.awd-it.co.uk/awd-it-hyte-y60-ryzen-5-7600x-six-core-rtx-4070-ti-12gb-windows-11-pc-gaming-pc.html?config=14937-174858,14946-175008,14949-175062,14952-175065,14955-175119,14958-175125,14964-175179,14967-175197,14973-345481,14979-175233,14982-175245,17625-197846,23400-252467,23599-306170,24481-267086,27747-309312,31198-345469,31306-346480 I'm looking at AMD now so I can upgrade the CPU in a year or two for a boost in speed. Buying Intel 13th gen now would require a new motherboard in the future if I wanted to upgrade the CPU. I've put the first one into PC Partpicker and it's about a 10% premium over buying the parts on Amazon and building the thing yourself. I reckon that's fair but not a bargain. The second seems a similar value. One thing I do note is that they both use comparatively slow 5600 MT/s memory. If you have the option to choose faster memory it will make a noticeable (well if you were doing a benchmark or something) difference, especially with AMD processors. Edit: Oh, and for general gaming AMD just released the Ryzen 7 7800X3D which is significantly faster in most gaming applications than what you have selected here. Might be worth a look, especially if you're already considering the 7900x which would cost about the same. Edited April 12, 2023 by Gangor Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gee_Simpson Posted April 12, 2023 Share Posted April 12, 2023 (edited) 33 minutes ago, kevhamster said: Both are good deals for the spec. If you can afford the extra £300 then it looks a good shout to me. Thanks. 14 minutes ago, Gangor said: I've put the first one into PC Partpicker and it's about a 10% premium over buying the parts on Amazon and building the thing yourself. I reckon that's fair but not a bargain. The second seems a similar value. One thing I do note is that they both use comparatively slow 5600 MT/s memory. If you have the option to choose faster memory it will make a noticeable (well if you were doing a benchmark or something) difference, especially with AMD processors. Edit: Oh, and for general gaming AMD just released the Ryzen 7 7800X3D which is significantly faster in most gaming applications than what you have selected here. Might be worth a look, especially if you're already considering the 7900x which would cost about the same. Isn't 5600mhz C36 decent? There's an option for 6200mhz C36 on the second one, it's £37 more. I'm more concerned at how fast the CPU is for FM, and going by the benchmark results on here, the 7900x is faster than the 7800X3D for FM. Edited April 12, 2023 by Gee_Simpson Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gangor Posted April 12, 2023 Share Posted April 12, 2023 46 minutes ago, Gee_Simpson said: Thanks. Isn't 5600mhz C36 decent? There's an option for 6200mhz C36 on the second one, it's £37 more. I'm more concerned at how fast the CPU is for FM, and going by the benchmark results on here, the 7900x is faster than the 7800X3D for FM. It's not the slowest, but from what I've seen faster memory is worth it within reason, and that's not unreasonable. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamesdenson1997 Posted April 13, 2023 Share Posted April 13, 2023 On 21/09/2022 at 16:59, jamesdenson1997 said: Sorry to bother you again. Been finding the laptop is really jittery when playing FM. Legion 5(AMD Ryzen 7 5700H, NVIDIA 360 RTX) Not sure what's causing it and its making me fall out of love with the game. laptop set to performance mode and still finding it jitters in the 3D engine(Probably frame rate). Am I better off selling the laptop and getting something with less/similar specs which I hope would run the game better as I think its cost me too much money for not the results I wanted. Happy to message directly if anyone can help Thanks James Hi all. Update to this I’ve sold the Lenovo and am on the hunt for a new laptop. Seen the M2 pro outperform most gaming laptops on FM and was thinking of moving to the MacOS. Budget will stretch with 20% off employee discount from my work. Other 2k alternatives welcome but if I can find something that maxes performance, smooth graphics at all times and is quiet I’ll be happy. Got non of these out of the Lenovo Legion 5i Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
timtower Posted April 13, 2023 Share Posted April 13, 2023 Hi all, how does this look? Only looking to play FM and other simple tasks like YT and Spotify https://www.argos.co.uk/product/1974441?clickPR=plp:1:58 Any other recommendations for under £700? Preferably from Amazon, Argos or Currys. Thank you in advance Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gangor Posted April 13, 2023 Share Posted April 13, 2023 2 hours ago, timtower said: Hi all, how does this look? Only looking to play FM and other simple tasks like YT and Spotify https://www.argos.co.uk/product/1974441?clickPR=plp:1:58 Any other recommendations for under £700? Preferably from Amazon, Argos or Currys. Thank you in advance That's pretty decent for FM. It's last years CPU but still performs very well. What's particularly good about this laptop is that it uses a higher power "H" processor but you don't have to pay for a discrete GPU as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gangor Posted April 13, 2023 Share Posted April 13, 2023 2 hours ago, jamesdenson1997 said: Hi all. Update to this I’ve sold the Lenovo and am on the hunt for a new laptop. Seen the M2 pro outperform most gaming laptops on FM and was thinking of moving to the MacOS. Budget will stretch with 20% off employee discount from my work. Other 2k alternatives welcome but if I can find something that maxes performance, smooth graphics at all times and is quiet I’ll be happy. Got non of these out of the Lenovo Legion 5i Mac M2 would be fantastic, but they are pricey. If you only want it for FM and can afford to pay, go for it. No x86 processor can give you the combination of processing power and efficiency. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamesdenson1997 Posted April 14, 2023 Share Posted April 14, 2023 6 hours ago, Gangor said: Mac M2 would be fantastic, but they are pricey. If you only want it for FM and can afford to pay, go for it. No x86 processor can give you the combination of processing power and efficiency. Cheers. Just a bit wary of the GPU. Is that good enough to run FM smoothly? Or is it just about the processor Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamesdenson1997 Posted April 14, 2023 Share Posted April 14, 2023 37 minutes ago, jamesdenson1997 said: Cheers. Just a bit wary of the GPU. Is that good enough to run FM smoothly? Or is it just about the processor Was looking at this as a slightly cheaper alternative if anyone has any thoughts Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gangor Posted April 14, 2023 Share Posted April 14, 2023 12 hours ago, jamesdenson1997 said: Cheers. Just a bit wary of the GPU. Is that good enough to run FM smoothly? Or is it just about the processor The iGPU on the M2 is more than sufficient for FM. The i7 machine is more powerful than the m2, but it also uses a lot more power. You'd need to read or see a product review to be sure, but given the higher power consumption I'd suspect the i7 machine would be noisier. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingjericho Posted April 14, 2023 Share Posted April 14, 2023 (edited) I'm looking for a laptop with good processing to support multiple leagues loaded on FM, but also light on weight and with good battery life. Gaming will be exclusively FM as other games I play on consoles. No other heavy duty usual tasks apart from FM. Usual stuff text, spreadsheets, music library, streaming. If possible recommendations from this website would be appreciated. No budget limitations. Edited April 14, 2023 by kingjericho Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gangor Posted April 14, 2023 Share Posted April 14, 2023 (edited) 29 minutes ago, kingjericho said: I'm looking for a laptop with good processing to support multiple leagues loaded on FM, but also light on weight and with good battery life. Gaming will be exclusively FM as other games I play on consoles. No other heavy duty usual tasks apart from FM. Usual stuff text, spreadsheets, music library, streaming. If possible recommendations from this website would be appreciated. No budget limitations. Not particularly familiar with Zenbooks but the specs for this seem to fit your needs: https://www.worten.pt/produtos/portatil-asus-zenbook-um3402ya-r75aohdpb1-14-amd-ryzen-7-5825u-ram-16-gb-1-tb-ssd-amd-radeon-graphics-7599696 Note the OLED will look nice, but might be an issue as they can tend to burn in UI elements over time if you're not careful. This might also be an option, without an OLED screen. I would expect it to be less premium in its build quality. The battery is also much smaller - half the size. https://www.worten.pt/produtos/portatil-asus-m515ua-r75alhdsb1-15-6-amd-ryzen-7-5700u-ram-16-gb-512-gb-ssd-amd-radeon-graphics-7735133 I've looked through the rest of the R7/i7 (i9 just uses more power with no better performance on mobile, R5/i5 seems less premium than you're going for with "no budget limitations") and none of the rest fit. There are only a few i7s that have 15w processors and those have 8gb of RAM which really isn't enough, especially if you're dealing with large FM databases or spreadsheets. Edited April 14, 2023 by Gangor 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smurf Posted April 15, 2023 Share Posted April 15, 2023 6 hours ago, kingjericho said: I'm looking for a laptop with good processing to support multiple leagues loaded on FM, but also light on weight and with good battery life. Gaming will be exclusively FM as other games I play on consoles. No other heavy duty usual tasks apart from FM. Usual stuff text, spreadsheets, music library, streaming. If possible recommendations from this website would be appreciated. No budget limitations. Good suggestions from @Gangor Not really sure how thin/light these are: FM isn't really a graphical game - so I'd say this would suit your needshttps://www.worten.pt/produtos/portatil-asus-vivobook-s513ep-71am3sb3-15-6-intel-core-i7-1165g7-ram-16-gb-1-tb-ssd-nvidia-geforce-mx330-7619600https://www.worten.pt/produtos/portatil-huawei-matebook-16s-curief-w9611t-16-intel-evo-core-i9-12900h-ram-16-gb-1-tb-ssd-intel-iris-xe-graphics-7614321 If the budget is unlimited then thin and light will only get you so far in terms of specs - as the thin and light computers are designed for long term use off battery - so the parts are usually geared towards throttling speed to preserve power. FM is a processing game - and if you throttle the processor to lower speeds you get less from it. Is there anything else you can tell us about your needs? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingjericho Posted April 15, 2023 Share Posted April 15, 2023 (edited) @Gangor and @Smurf thanks a lor for your feedback, you definitely mentioned some things I will look for. 10 hours ago, Smurf said: Is there anything else you can tell us about your needs? Basically I use my laptop for low demanding everyday tasks - except when playing FM. That's why I'm looking for a lightweight that can last a long time on battery, for train/plane rides to watch movies. But also still be able to withstand a long term FM career with a big database, even if I only play FM at home so I have the charger plugged in. In terms of GPU from what I've read the Iris Xe is enough for FM so I was looking to avoid the weight , battery, and prices of gaming laptops. Edited April 15, 2023 by kingjericho Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gangor Posted April 15, 2023 Share Posted April 15, 2023 1 hour ago, kingjericho said: @Gangor and @Smurf thanks a lor for your feedback, you definitely mentioned some things I will look for. Basically I use my laptop for low demanding everyday tasks - except when playing FM. That's why I'm looking for a lightweight that can last a long time on battery, for train/plane rides to watch movies. But also still be able to withstand a long term FM career with a big database, even if I only play FM at home so I have the charger plugged in. In terms of GPU from what I've read the Iris Xe is enough for FM so I was looking to avoid the weight , battery, and prices of gaming laptops. No gaming processor - that is, one with a model number ending in 'H' is going to provide brilliant battery life, though some might manage 4-5 hours or so. Depending on the size of the battery and software optimisations, 'U' processors could be expected to last perhaps 8-10 hours or in some cases longer. Currently AMD processors seem to have the advantage in efficiency, especially Ryzen 6000. You're quite right, Iris Xe is going to be fine for FM, though the iGPU in AMD CPUs is significantly more powerful and would ensure you don't need to turn down any settings. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smurf Posted April 16, 2023 Share Posted April 16, 2023 @kingjericho For long-term off plug Macs are pretty reliable would you consider an Apple mac as your budget is unlimited. https://www.laptopmag.com/articles/all-day-strong-longest-lasting-notebooks 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingjericho Posted April 16, 2023 Share Posted April 16, 2023 (edited) 6 hours ago, Smurf said: @kingjericho For long-term off plug Macs are pretty reliable would you consider an Apple mac as your budget is unlimited. https://www.laptopmag.com/articles/all-day-strong-longest-lasting-notebooks Not considering Mac at the moment, thanks. In terms of integrated graphics drivers, which ones other than the Iris Xe are good enough to run FM smoothly? Also something that would allow a digital pen would be a plus. Edited April 16, 2023 by kingjericho Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bazaod Posted April 16, 2023 Share Posted April 16, 2023 (edited) https://www.box.co.uk/NBCB15716-2-Horizon-Skyline-Intel-Core-i7-16GB-RAM-5_4319482.html Is this decent for the price? Would primarily be used for FM, general internet browsing and maybe some other light gaming If not what should I be looking for? Budget of around £800 but could stretch to a bit more Edited April 16, 2023 by bazaod Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gangor Posted April 16, 2023 Share Posted April 16, 2023 2 hours ago, kingjericho said: Not considering Mac at the moment, thanks. In terms of integrated graphics drivers, which ones other than the Iris Xe are good enough to run FM smoothly? Also something that would allow a digital pen would be a plus. Any i7/Ryzen 7 processor from the last couple of years (12th gen+/5000+) will be fine. Lower down the product stack the iGPUs can be cut down, but at this level you should be fine. Mac M1/M2 also has a very capable iGPU and so long as Mac versions exist for the software you need to use, it bears serious consideration. As for digital pens, I'm not too knowledgeable, but my understanding is that generally laptops will be designed specifically for them, so your choices may be more limited. It might be worth checking out the websites of the various laptop manufacturers so you're not just seeing the mass market range at a retailer. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gangor Posted April 16, 2023 Share Posted April 16, 2023 4 minutes ago, bazaod said: https://www.box.co.uk/NBCB15716-2-Horizon-Skyline-Intel-Core-i7-16GB-RAM-5_4319482.html Is this decent for the price? Would primarily be used for FM, general internet browsing and maybe some other light gaming If not what should I be looking for? Budget of around £800 but could stretch to a bit more The GPU is a very weak one (though still perfectly fine for FM), but the processor is capable. This laptop would be excellent for FM, good for general internet browsing (as long as you're not planning to be away from a wall plug) and possibly okay for some other light gaming, depending on the games and your performance expectations. In terms of gaming laptops this is about as good as you can expect at this budget. Choosing a non-gaming laptop isn't going to get you better performance (it would be worse), though portability would be better if that matters to you. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bazaod Posted April 16, 2023 Share Posted April 16, 2023 (edited) Thank you, not essential to buy right now so just looking at options. I’m not even sure I’d do any other even light gaming on it but the option would be nice but not essential Edited April 16, 2023 by bazaod Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bishydoodah99 Posted April 23, 2023 Share Posted April 23, 2023 Dell appear to have a couple of good deals on at the moment - can you have a look and see whether you agree please? https://www.dell.com/en-uk/shop/gaming-and-games/g15-ryzen-edition-gaming-laptop/spd/g-series-15-5525-laptop?cjevent=242041f5e19f11ed80ec2fe10a18ba74&dgc=CJ&publisherid=3743973&publisher=&aff=digidip&affid=3743973&aff_webid=7988612&aff_user_id=1c009g2wqb1o&cjdata=MXxZfDB8WXwxNjY2MDQ3MjA5NzMw&gacd=12387083-28470564-5750457-344826123-176915672&dgc=af&VEN1=7988612&dclid=CIyH1sCuv_4CFdH21QodlaAJSw&nclid=6VVsrGK5_qCkNVnFmpo7bMqp4s0C7mINMmwh0HfaDwv7a8kRpDzYZ8zxgw-vnS7r https://www.dell.com/en-uk/shop/laptops-2-in-1-pcs/g15-gaming-laptop/spd/g-series-15-5520-laptop/cn55126?view=configurations&cjevent=2eed529ce19f11ed8358c8250a18ba72&dgc=CJ&publisherid=3743973&publisher=&aff=digidip&affid=3743973&aff_webid=7988612&aff_user_id=11009g7ajikj&cjdata=MXxZfDB8WXwxNjY2MDQ3MjA5NzMw&gacd=12387083-28470564-5750457-344826123-176915672&dgc=af&VEN1=7988612&dclid=CKCLp8muv_4CFQehUQod_eMJDw&nclid=6VVsrGK5_qCkNVnFmpo7bMqp4s0C7mINMmwh0HfaDwv7a8kRpDzYZ8zxgw-vnS7r Thanks! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gangor Posted April 23, 2023 Share Posted April 23, 2023 12 hours ago, bishydoodah99 said: Dell appear to have a couple of good deals on at the moment - can you have a look and see whether you agree please? https://www.dell.com/en-uk/shop/gaming-and-games/g15-ryzen-edition-gaming-laptop/spd/g-series-15-5525-laptop?cjevent=242041f5e19f11ed80ec2fe10a18ba74&dgc=CJ&publisherid=3743973&publisher=&aff=digidip&affid=3743973&aff_webid=7988612&aff_user_id=1c009g2wqb1o&cjdata=MXxZfDB8WXwxNjY2MDQ3MjA5NzMw&gacd=12387083-28470564-5750457-344826123-176915672&dgc=af&VEN1=7988612&dclid=CIyH1sCuv_4CFdH21QodlaAJSw&nclid=6VVsrGK5_qCkNVnFmpo7bMqp4s0C7mINMmwh0HfaDwv7a8kRpDzYZ8zxgw-vnS7r https://www.dell.com/en-uk/shop/laptops-2-in-1-pcs/g15-gaming-laptop/spd/g-series-15-5520-laptop/cn55126?view=configurations&cjevent=2eed529ce19f11ed8358c8250a18ba72&dgc=CJ&publisherid=3743973&publisher=&aff=digidip&affid=3743973&aff_webid=7988612&aff_user_id=11009g7ajikj&cjdata=MXxZfDB8WXwxNjY2MDQ3MjA5NzMw&gacd=12387083-28470564-5750457-344826123-176915672&dgc=af&VEN1=7988612&dclid=CKCLp8muv_4CFQehUQod_eMJDw&nclid=6VVsrGK5_qCkNVnFmpo7bMqp4s0C7mINMmwh0HfaDwv7a8kRpDzYZ8zxgw-vnS7r Thanks! The Ryzen 6000 series is a lot more efficient than the Intel 12th gen processors. This might not sound important for a laptop you're probably going to be using plugged in, but it will affect the amount of heat that needs to be dissipated therefore the speed the fans have to spin and the sound that they make. If you listen to music on a headset while gaming that might not matter but otherwise it's going to have a noticible impact on your gaming experience. Having said this, both of these seem decent value and either would perform admirably for FM. If you're only playing FM the 3050 is more than sufficient if you want to save a bit more. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamesdenson1997 Posted April 24, 2023 Share Posted April 24, 2023 On 13/04/2023 at 21:25, jamesdenson1997 said: Hi all. Update to this I’ve sold the Lenovo and am on the hunt for a new laptop. Seen the M2 pro outperform most gaming laptops on FM and was thinking of moving to the MacOS. Budget will stretch with 20% off employee discount from my work. Other 2k alternatives welcome but if I can find something that maxes performance, smooth graphics at all times and is quiet I’ll be happy. Got non of these out of the Lenovo Legion 5i On 14/04/2023 at 07:56, jamesdenson1997 said: Was looking at this as a slightly cheaper alternative if anyone has any thoughts Bought the HP and still having issues with graphics stutter. Not sure how with the GPU. Could it be due to the processor/graphics almost being too good for the game and unable to run at a high frame rate, or is it because the high graphics only run at a minimum frame rate and the 144hz screen is refreshing too quickly for the game causing the jitter. Any advice/info would be helpful, before I send it back. Regards James Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevhamster Posted April 24, 2023 Author Share Posted April 24, 2023 3 minutes ago, jamesdenson1997 said: Bought the HP and still having issues with graphics stutter. Not sure how with the GPU. Could it be due to the processor/graphics almost being too good for the game and unable to run at a high frame rate, or is it because the high graphics only run at a minimum frame rate and the 144hz screen is refreshing too quickly for the game causing the jitter. Any advice/info would be helpful, before I send it back. Regards James 1) Check you graphics card drivers are all up to date. 2) Check the game is using the dedicated graphics card and not the integrated GPU. 3) Check game settings for things like refresh rate. I can't imagine why that system would be having frame rate issues for FM. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamesdenson1997 Posted April 24, 2023 Share Posted April 24, 2023 1 minute ago, kevhamster said: 1) Check you graphics card drivers are all up to date. 2) Check the game is using the dedicated graphics card and not the integrated GPU. 3) Check game settings for things like refresh rate. I can't imagine why that system would be having frame rate issues for FM. What settings would you suggest on the match engine? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevhamster Posted April 24, 2023 Author Share Posted April 24, 2023 1 minute ago, jamesdenson1997 said: What settings would you suggest on the match engine? That system should manage everything maxed without breaking a sweat. Not sure whether the fact that the game is hardcoded to cap at 60FPS would cause issues on displays with higher refresh rates, but if it did then I'm sure it'd be something I'd already heard of, and I haven't. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blarney Posted April 25, 2023 Share Posted April 25, 2023 (edited) Greetings, great thread. Nice of you all to help. I'm not really concerned that my desktop won't run the game, just curious your thoughts on how well it will run. Just purchased this system and haven't had it delivered yet. My last system was okay but struggled running more than 5 leagues playable at a time. AMD Ryzen 5 5600 3.9Ghz RTX 3060 12gb DDR6 16gb DDR4 ram Slainte Edited April 25, 2023 by Blarney Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevhamster Posted April 25, 2023 Author Share Posted April 25, 2023 4 hours ago, Blarney said: Greetings, great thread. Nice of you all to help. I'm not really concerned that my desktop won't run the game, just curious your thoughts on how well it will run. Just purchased this system and haven't had it delivered yet. My last system was okay but struggled running more than 5 leagues playable at a time. AMD Ryzen 5 5600 3.9Ghz RTX 3060 12gb DDR6 16gb DDR4 ram Slainte It should run the game very well. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ru9a Posted April 25, 2023 Share Posted April 25, 2023 (edited) Opinions on this one? Intel® Core™ i5-1035G1 processor 8 GB DDR4 RAM 512GB NVMe SSD lagring HP Pavilion 14-ce3814 14" bärbar dator (vit) - Elgiganten Edited April 25, 2023 by ru9a Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Majson Posted April 26, 2023 Share Posted April 26, 2023 My laptop is 4.5 years old and now super slow, took me 15 mins to load up last week so figure it's time to upgrade. Some good links here and also found this which im very tempted by. only concern might be the lower base clock speed? https://www.argos.co.uk/product/1309023?clickPR=plp:6:63 Intel Core i5 - 1235U processor. 10 Core processor. 1.3GHz processor speed with a burst speed of 4.4GHz. 16GB RAM DDR4. 512GB SSD storage. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevhamster Posted April 26, 2023 Author Share Posted April 26, 2023 On 25/04/2023 at 14:14, ru9a said: Opinions on this one? Intel® Core™ i5-1035G1 processor 8 GB DDR4 RAM 512GB NVMe SSD lagring HP Pavilion 14-ce3814 14" bärbar dator (vit) - Elgiganten Not fantastic, but for the price (which seems to work out at around £190) it's certainly ok. You'll probably need to use lower 3D graphics settings. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevhamster Posted April 26, 2023 Author Share Posted April 26, 2023 5 hours ago, Majson said: My laptop is 4.5 years old and now super slow, took me 15 mins to load up last week so figure it's time to upgrade. Some good links here and also found this which im very tempted by. only concern might be the lower base clock speed? https://www.argos.co.uk/product/1309023?clickPR=plp:6:63 Intel Core i5 - 1235U processor. 10 Core processor. 1.3GHz processor speed with a burst speed of 4.4GHz. 16GB RAM DDR4. 512GB SSD storage. It's ok even with the low base clock speed, but I'd be inclined to look at this instead for the same price: https://www.currys.co.uk/products/hp-15seq2510sa-15.6-laptop-amd-ryzen-7-512-gb-ssd-silver-10225070.html 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Majson Posted April 26, 2023 Share Posted April 26, 2023 55 minutes ago, kevhamster said: It's ok even with the low base clock speed, but I'd be inclined to look at this instead for the same price: https://www.currys.co.uk/products/hp-15seq2510sa-15.6-laptop-amd-ryzen-7-512-gb-ssd-silver-10225070.html Thanks for the link, i sort of wanted 16gb Ram for a couple of things i do occasionally (not while playing FM though) and im not a big fan of HP, i've had a couple that have always ended up being an issue for me. Probably me being a bit daft mind Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevhamster Posted April 26, 2023 Author Share Posted April 26, 2023 13 minutes ago, Majson said: Thanks for the link, i sort of wanted 16gb Ram for a couple of things i do occasionally (not while playing FM though) and im not a big fan of HP, i've had a couple that have always ended up being an issue for me. Probably me being a bit daft mind If you don't mind going up to £650, I'd look at this one instead: https://www.currys.co.uk/products/asus-vivobook-16x-x1603za-16-laptop-intel-core-i5-512-gb-ssd-silver-10240160.html 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamesdenson1997 Posted April 26, 2023 Share Posted April 26, 2023 On 24/04/2023 at 19:14, kevhamster said: That system should manage everything maxed without breaking a sweat. Not sure whether the fact that the game is hardcoded to cap at 60FPS would cause issues on displays with higher refresh rates, but if it did then I'm sure it'd be something I'd already heard of, and I haven't. Interesting. Might have to put it in the si forums to check Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamesdenson1997 Posted April 26, 2023 Share Posted April 26, 2023 On 24/04/2023 at 19:14, kevhamster said: That system should manage everything maxed without breaking a sweat. Not sure whether the fact that the game is hardcoded to cap at 60FPS would cause issues on displays with higher refresh rates, but if it did then I'm sure it'd be something I'd already heard of, and I haven't. I have put a post in the match engine issues thread if you want to take a look Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamesdenson1997 Posted April 29, 2023 Share Posted April 29, 2023 Anyone own a MacBook? What’s the best specs to buy for playing FM and as an all round laptop Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ru9a Posted May 1, 2023 Share Posted May 1, 2023 Hi guys,Medion E14409 | NetOnNet Is that something to recommend? Intel Core i3-1005G1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevhamster Posted May 1, 2023 Author Share Posted May 1, 2023 4 hours ago, ru9a said: Hi guys,Medion E14409 | NetOnNet Is that something to recommend? Intel Core i3-1005G1 Not really - the processor isn't fantastic and only 4GB RAM. I'd be looking for 8GB at minimum. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ru9a Posted May 1, 2023 Share Posted May 1, 2023 (edited) 51 minutes ago, kevhamster said: Not really - the processor isn't fantastic and only 4GB RAM. I'd be looking for 8GB at minimum. Hi Kev Thanks for the answer but it confuses me. Further up in the thread you recommended the same computer? Edited May 1, 2023 by ru9a Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gangor Posted May 2, 2023 Share Posted May 2, 2023 14 hours ago, ru9a said: Hi Kev Thanks for the answer but it confuses me. Further up in the thread you recommended the same computer? It's cheap for what it is (specification-wise), that has to be said. If that's all you can afford it's a decent option. Couple of issues I noted: - Only 4gb of soldered (ie not upgradable) RAM. This will be an issue especially with larger databases - The iGPU is quite weak and probably wouldn't run the 3D match engine well - Poor reviews - the build quality may not be great Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ru9a Posted May 2, 2023 Share Posted May 2, 2023 34 minutes ago, Gangor said: It's cheap for what it is (specification-wise), that has to be said. If that's all you can afford it's a decent option. Couple of issues I noted: - Only 4gb of soldered (ie not upgradable) RAM. This will be an issue especially with larger databases - The iGPU is quite weak and probably wouldn't run the 3D match engine well - Poor reviews - the build quality may not be great Ok, thanks Gangor Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ru9a Posted May 2, 2023 Share Posted May 2, 2023 Could you maybe recommend a computer who works fine for FM 2023? The price should be under 3000 Krona (300euro). Thanks! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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