FM24 - PC/Laptop advice thread *** PLEASE READ OPENING POST BEFORE POSTING ***

[kevhamster]

1 hour ago, Al675 said:

Those specs seemed good on first glance. Checked some reviews and well… 

https://www.digitaltrends.com/computing/msi-prestige-16-review/?amp

Fair enough. I'll take another look around. 

[kevhamster]

1 hour ago, Al675 said:

Those specs seemed good on first glance. Checked some reviews and well… 

https://www.digitaltrends.com/computing/msi-prestige-16-review/?amp

ASUS TUF Gaming F15 FX507ZU4 15.6" Full HD 144Hz Gaming Laptop (Intel i7-12700H 14-Cores, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4050 6GB Graphics (140W TGP), 16GB RAM, 512GB SSD, Windows 11) https://amzn.eu/d/annaPRg

This one didn't come up last time I looked. Looks decent to me. 

[Al675]

49 minutes ago, kevhamster said:

ASUS TUF Gaming F15 FX507ZU4 15.6" Full HD 144Hz Gaming Laptop (Intel i7-12700H 14-Cores, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4050 6GB Graphics (140W TGP), 16GB RAM, 512GB SSD, Windows 11) https://amzn.eu/d/annaPRg

This one didn't come up last time I looked. Looks decent to me. 

How’s the display on the TUF Gaming? Seems all well and good from gaming perspective from streaming should I look for something else 

[Al675]

59 minutes ago, kevhamster said:

ASUS TUF Gaming F15 FX507ZU4 15.6" Full HD 144Hz Gaming Laptop (Intel i7-12700H 14-Cores, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4050 6GB Graphics (140W TGP), 16GB RAM, 512GB SSD, Windows 11) https://amzn.eu/d/annaPRg

This one didn't come up last time I looked. Looks decent to me. 

What do you think of this option? Better display and plenty of GPU for gaming. Can get it for 1175 with 10 percent of first order 

https://www.lenovo.com/gb/en/p/laptops/legion-laptops/legion-slim-series-laptops/legion-slim-5i-gen-8-(16-inch-intel)/82ya006xuk

[1984mattyd]

23 minutes ago, Al675 said:

What do you think of this option? Better display and plenty of GPU for gaming. Can get it for 1175 with 10 percent of first order 

https://www.lenovo.com/gb/en/p/laptops/legion-laptops/legion-slim-series-laptops/legion-slim-5i-gen-8-(16-inch-intel)/82ya006xuk

Spend another 600 and get legion7 i9 which is what I'm doing 👀

[Al675]

10 minutes ago, 1984mattyd said:

Spend another 600 and get legion7 i9 which is what I'm doing 👀

What do you plan on playing on your legion 7 i9? I don’t think I need the extra for what I’d be using it for. 

Edited August 26, 2023 by Al675

[1984mattyd]

14 minutes ago, Al675 said:

What do you plan on playing on your legion 7 i9? I don’t think I need the extra for what I’d be using it for. 

Literally just FM and civilization, and because I'm crazy lol. But also I like to have a massive database for FM plus with fm25 bein different I'm future proofing myself completely for a long time 

Edited August 26, 2023 by 1984mattyd
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[kevhamster]

17 hours ago, Al675 said:

What do you think of this option? Better display and plenty of GPU for gaming. Can get it for 1175 with 10 percent of first order 

https://www.lenovo.com/gb/en/p/laptops/legion-laptops/legion-slim-series-laptops/legion-slim-5i-gen-8-(16-inch-intel)/82ya006xuk

Looks good. 

[Scribe]

Hi folks.  I've been lurking hoping someone would ask about desktops in here but it's all been laptops recently so I had to bit the bullet and post something myself!

 

I take it desktops will still provide the best bang for your buck these days?  If so, I'm looking for a desktop, budget maybe around the £700-£800 mark. It'll be for general purpose stuff like surfing the net and obviously playing FM (I don't use the 3D match engine but do like to run as many leagues as I can) but I do play a couple of other games like Civilization, albeit only occasionally and a tiny bit of photo editing.

 

I need a new monitor as well - not sure if I can get recommendations in here. In a  general sense I take it I'm best buying separately rather than any sort of package including it with the desktop? The monitor will double up for a work screen as well so needs to be a reasonable size and good for spreadsheets and looking at photos. I don't expect to be using it to stream videos much. I guess the budget for the screen is in the range of £150-£200. Size wise, I don't know to be honest - Google suggests 24 or 27 inches but any advice on that would be appreciated too.

[rajandkajal01]

Hi Everyone,

 

I am hoping someone knowledgeable can please help me.

I've bought a new laptop which is the ENVY 15-ep1002na Laptop, Intel Core i9 Processor, 32GB RAM, 2TB SSD, 15.6" 4K OLED. I wanted to have a lot of leagues running on football manager, so loaded a new game and the player count is over 120,000. However it is the saying the estimated game speed is only half a star.

Even having 90,000 players only has an estimated game speed of 1.5 stars. These estimated speeds are no different to my older laptop.

Is my laptop not good, or is the estimated game speed not accurate and I should be fine?

Any other recommendations would be greatly appreciated.

 

Thanks in advance.

Edited August 27, 2023 by rajandkajal01
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[1984mattyd]

14 hours ago, rajandkajal01 said:

Hi Everyone,

 

I am hoping someone knowledgeable can please help me.

I've bought a new laptop which is the ENVY 15-ep1002na Laptop, Intel Core i9 Processor, 32GB RAM, 2TB SSD, 15.6" 4K OLED. I wanted to have a lot of leagues running on football manager, so loaded a new game and the player count is over 120,000. However it is the saying the estimated game speed is only half a star.

Even having 90,000 players only has an estimated game speed of 1.5 stars. These estimated speeds are no different to my older laptop.

Is my laptop not good, or is the estimated game speed not accurate and I should be fine?

Any other recommendations would be greatly appreciated.

 

Thanks in advance.

Is this with a dedicated graphics card to? I was looking at a i9 13th gen but if that's what u get then I may as well spend cheaper.

Look at this thread to

 

https://community.sigames.com/forums/topic/569492-fm23-performance-benchmarking-thread/

Edited August 28, 2023 by 1984mattyd

[kevhamster]

20 hours ago, rajandkajal01 said:

Hi Everyone,

 

I am hoping someone knowledgeable can please help me.

I've bought a new laptop which is the ENVY 15-ep1002na Laptop, Intel Core i9 Processor, 32GB RAM, 2TB SSD, 15.6" 4K OLED. I wanted to have a lot of leagues running on football manager, so loaded a new game and the player count is over 120,000. However it is the saying the estimated game speed is only half a star.

Even having 90,000 players only has an estimated game speed of 1.5 stars. These estimated speeds are no different to my older laptop.

Is my laptop not good, or is the estimated game speed not accurate and I should be fine?

Any other recommendations would be greatly appreciated.

 

Thanks in advance.

Don't pay too much attention to the star ratings for game speed, they're very flawed to be honest.  Any game with a large database such as this will see slower processing speeds, but a modern i9 will process that quicker than pretty much anything else.

[kevhamster]

22 hours ago, Scribe said:

Hi folks.  I've been lurking hoping someone would ask about desktops in here but it's all been laptops recently so I had to bit the bullet and post something myself!

 

I take it desktops will still provide the best bang for your buck these days?  If so, I'm looking for a desktop, budget maybe around the £700-£800 mark. It'll be for general purpose stuff like surfing the net and obviously playing FM (I don't use the 3D match engine but do like to run as many leagues as I can) but I do play a couple of other games like Civilization, albeit only occasionally and a tiny bit of photo editing.

 

I need a new monitor as well - not sure if I can get recommendations in here. In a  general sense I take it I'm best buying separately rather than any sort of package including it with the desktop? The monitor will double up for a work screen as well so needs to be a reasonable size and good for spreadsheets and looking at photos. I don't expect to be using it to stream videos much. I guess the budget for the screen is in the range of £150-£200. Size wise, I don't know to be honest - Google suggests 24 or 27 inches but any advice on that would be appreciated too.

PC: https://www.box.co.uk/Cube-Mythic_4740361.html?config=2335985,3570392,4086959,4103349,4112320

This looks a good option for a monitor as well: https://www.box.co.uk/Iiyama-G-Master-Black-Hawk-G2740HSU-B1-2_3453679.html

[kevhamster]

5 hours ago, 1984mattyd said:

Is this with a dedicated graphics card to? I was looking at a i9 13th gen but if that's what u get then I may as well spend cheaper.

Look at this thread to

 

https://community.sigames.com/forums/topic/569492-fm23-performance-benchmarking-thread/

https://www.johnlewis.com/hp-envy-15-ep1002na-laptop-intel-core-i9-processor-32gb-ram-2tb-ssd-15-6-inch-4k-oled-natural-silver/p6057563?s_ppc=2dx92700077665213851_mixed_technology_BAU&tmad=c&tmcampid=2&gclid=Cj0KCQjwi7GnBhDXARIsAFLvH4maiMAQdKevf7-t-i4heWgKCCAYg99sne9_Np9q9iAtlpfVqU62ogAaAuV3EALw_wcB&gclsrc=aw.ds

Based on what I can see, looks like that specific model comes with an RTX 3060 graphics card.

[1984mattyd]

19 minutes ago, kevhamster said:

https://www.johnlewis.com/hp-envy-15-ep1002na-laptop-intel-core-i9-processor-32gb-ram-2tb-ssd-15-6-inch-4k-oled-natural-silver/p6057563?s_ppc=2dx92700077665213851_mixed_technology_BAU&tmad=c&tmcampid=2&gclid=Cj0KCQjwi7GnBhDXARIsAFLvH4maiMAQdKevf7-t-i4heWgKCCAYg99sne9_Np9q9iAtlpfVqU62ogAaAuV3EALw_wcB&gclsrc=aw.ds

Based on what I can see, looks like that specific model comes with an RTX 3060 graphics card.

Yeah I can see...£2k that cost to, I'm looking at legion7 i9 but 13th gen so that should be more than enough for the job 

[Jake_94]

Budget is around £750, only interested in new rather than refurbished - I've come across the below, is this any good? Are there any better options out there in budget? I haven't used Box.co.uk before but this one seems to be £300 cheaper with them than Laptops Direct.

https://www.box.co.uk/82S900Y6UK-Lenovo-IdeaPad-Gaming-3-Intel-Core-i5-16_4378169.html

[kevhamster]

37 minutes ago, Jake_94 said:

Budget is around £750, only interested in new rather than refurbished - I've come across the below, is this any good? Are there any better options out there in budget? I haven't used Box.co.uk before but this one seems to be £300 cheaper with them than Laptops Direct.

https://www.box.co.uk/82S900Y6UK-Lenovo-IdeaPad-Gaming-3-Intel-Core-i5-16_4378169.html

Yeah, really nice spec for that price.

[rajandkajal01]

8 hours ago, 1984mattyd said:

Is this with a dedicated graphics card to? I was looking at a i9 13th gen but if that's what u get then I may as well spend cheaper.

Look at this thread to

 

https://community.sigames.com/forums/topic/569492-fm23-performance-benchmarking-thread/

Thank you. Yes, it's a dedicated graphics cards. 

Edited August 28, 2023 by rajandkajal01
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[rajandkajal01]

3 hours ago, kevhamster said:

Don't pay too much attention to the star ratings for game speed, they're very flawed to be honest.  Any game with a large database such as this will see slower processing speeds, but a modern i9 will process that quicker than pretty much anything else.

Thank you

[Scribe]

 

3 hours ago, kevhamster said:

PC: https://www.box.co.uk/Cube-Mythic_4740361.html?config=2335985,3570392,4086959,4103349,4112320

This looks a good option for a monitor as well: https://www.box.co.uk/Iiyama-G-Master-Black-Hawk-G2740HSU-B1-2_3453679.html

Thank you. Unfortunately I can't get one that lights up like a Christmas tree due to some sensory issues in the house. I'll have a look for similar spec machines though.

[sm1979]

10 hours ago, Scribe said:

 

Thank you. Unfortunately I can't get one that lights up like a Christmas tree due to some sensory issues in the house. I'll have a look for similar spec machines though.

I'm so glad you asked about desktops as I too am on the lookout. Can't afford anything expensive, would prefer new but maybe I'll have to consider refurb. Windows 11, 16gb ram I think?, 256gb+ SSD, built in WiFi, hdmi port, at least 3 USB ports.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/186019065019?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=rr825vlQSbu&sssrc=4429486&ssuid=95Kjy2uHT5O&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY thinking about this? Only play FM Touch and 2D graphics. Thoughts? Cheers.

[kevhamster]

20 minutes ago, sm1979 said:

I'm so glad you asked about desktops as I too am on the lookout. Can't afford anything expensive, would prefer new but maybe I'll have to consider refurb. Windows 11, 16gb ram I think?, 256gb+ SSD, built in WiFi, hdmi port, at least 3 USB ports.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/186019065019?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=rr825vlQSbu&sssrc=4429486&ssuid=95Kjy2uHT5O&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY thinking about this? Only play FM Touch and 2D graphics. Thoughts? Cheers.

What's your budget?  That CPU is a few years old and you'll likely be able to get something a bit better.

[kevhamster]

11 hours ago, Scribe said:

 

Thank you. Unfortunately I can't get one that lights up like a Christmas tree due to some sensory issues in the house. I'll have a look for similar spec machines though.

https://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/saved-configurations/amd-am4-home-office/sMSZNans5R/

[sm1979]

18 minutes ago, kevhamster said:

What's your budget?  That CPU is a few years old and you'll likely be able to get something a bit better.

I'd say £450 very tops, but that would need to be new I think. My existing desktop is AMD A4-3300 and 8gb RAM. I assume anything these days will be better? 

[KillYourIdols]

Alright?

I've done the Usual thing, Just went a brought a new PC on a whim. Done my research, but as usual, didnt come here first. Although I love tech, the GPU market seems a minefield of "Yes, but actually No" regarding what is good and what Isnt.

Anyway enough Waffling, i5-13400F with 16gb DDR4 RAM decent enough for FM? I know its going to be an Improvement on my, I believe, i5-7400, but enough to make a noticable difference? I'm into 2030 with ~ 45 leagues (100K Players) and things are noticably slowing down now as the game world fills up.

Decent Purchase? I'm usually a console player, but brought What I woudl consider a low-Mid entry PC to expand my PC gaming a bit (F1 Manager for one) Comes with a RTX3050, which has seemingly been slated, but i'm not looking for anything over 1080p tbh.

 

 

[kevhamster]

1 hour ago, sm1979 said:

I'd say £450 very tops, but that would need to be new I think. My existing desktop is AMD A4-3300 and 8gb RAM. I assume anything these days will be better? 

Here's a decent option: https://www.very.co.uk/asus-expertcenter-d5-sffnbspd500sces-511400010w-desktop-intel-core-i5-8gb-ram-256gb-ssd-black/1600857502.prd?sku=sku26055373&cm_mmc=google-_-PLA+-+Generic-_--_-__&utm_campaign=Generic_Electricals+-+Gaming+-+PMAX&utm_medium=cpc&utm_source=google&utm_term=&campaigntype=shopping&gclid=CjwKCAjwrranBhAEEiwAzbhNtaqvzKoQ0IhG8q0LU8p1DAbyQD0GsxI43n_bQeZmoiPZQwfq0LAGvxoCEbAQAvD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds

[kevhamster]

1 minute ago, KillYourIdols said:

Alright?

I've done the Usual thing, Just went a brought a new PC on a whim. Done my research, but as usual, didnt come here first. Although I love tech, the GPU market seems a minefield of "Yes, but actually No" regarding what is good and what Isnt.

Anyway enough Waffling, i5-13400F with 16gb DDR4 RAM decent enough for FM? I know its going to be an Improvement on my, I believe, i5-7400, but enough to make a noticable difference? I'm into 2030 with ~ 45 leagues (100K Players) and things are noticably slowing down now as the game world fills up.

Decent Purchase? I'm usually a console player, but brought What I woudl consider a low-Mid entry PC to expand my PC gaming a bit (F1 Manager for one) Comes with a RTX3050, which has seemingly been slated, but i'm not looking for anything over 1080p tbh.

 

 

https://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i5-7400-vs-Intel-Core-i5-13400F/3886vs4144

Based on that, should be a very nice uplift in performance compared to the older one.

RTX 3050 is fine for basic 1080p gaming for the games you've mentioned - it's an entry level card, but as long as you're not expecting to run things in 4K or play VR with it, you'll be fine.

[KillYourIdols]

3 minutes ago, kevhamster said:

https://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i5-7400-vs-Intel-Core-i5-13400F/3886vs4144

Based on that, should be a very nice uplift in performance compared to the older one.

RTX 3050 is fine for basic 1080p gaming for the games you've mentioned - it's an entry level card, but as long as you're not expecting to run things in 4K or play VR with it, you'll be fine.

Cheers Kev

I'm aware of the 3050 Limitations, its just some games I find a ballache on Console (F1 Manager for 1) and decided I might as well get something that will scrap through for a decent price rather then go all out and realize I didn't play enought to Warrant it long term.

[SilvC2001]

Hi everyone, 

 

I know the FM25 specs aren’t out yet but does this look like a good enough laptop for the future? 
https://www.box.co.uk/82S900Y6UK-Lenovo-IdeaPad-Gaming-3-Intel-Core-i5-16_4378169.html?cq_src=google_ads&cq_cmp=18271212442&cq_con=&cq_term=&cq_med=pla&cq_plac=&cq_net=x&cq_pos=&cq_plt=gp&gclid=Cj0KCQjwi7GnBhDXARIsAFLvH4lyOti1YQ5WzSinhHqSI1qre4IPMu5Mp_CXxEzDE0qRN7tpJx7_JN4aApMSEALw_wcB

[kevhamster]

12 hours ago, SilvC2001 said:

Hi everyone, 

 

I know the FM25 specs aren’t out yet but does this look like a good enough laptop for the future? 
https://www.box.co.uk/82S900Y6UK-Lenovo-IdeaPad-Gaming-3-Intel-Core-i5-16_4378169.html?cq_src=google_ads&cq_cmp=18271212442&cq_con=&cq_term=&cq_med=pla&cq_plac=&cq_net=x&cq_pos=&cq_plt=gp&gclid=Cj0KCQjwi7GnBhDXARIsAFLvH4lyOti1YQ5WzSinhHqSI1qre4IPMu5Mp_CXxEzDE0qRN7tpJx7_JN4aApMSEALw_wcB

Although the system requirements will increase for FM25 onwards, I'd still expect them to be reasonably modest compared to a lot of games out there, so I'd be very surprised if this wasn't good enough.

[happy hammer1]

Will the surface pro 9 be okay for the next few versions of FM?

[happy hammer1]

https://www.currys.co.uk/products/microsoft-13-surface-pro-9-intel-core-i5-256-gb-ssd-graphite-10242782.html

[kevhamster]

1 hour ago, happy hammer1 said:

Will the surface pro 9 be okay for the next few versions of FM?

 

1 hour ago, happy hammer1 said:

https://www.currys.co.uk/products/microsoft-13-surface-pro-9-intel-core-i5-256-gb-ssd-graphite-10242782.html

Very hard to say, as we don't know how the system requirements will look when the game moves over to Unity for FM25.  To be sure, I'd be looking at a machine with a dedicated graphics card, such as this which is the same price as the Surface you linked:

https://www.currys.co.uk/products/acer-nitro-5-15.6-gaming-laptop-intel-core-i7-rtx-3060-512-gb-ssd-10238558.html

[happy hammer1]

I was looking at more a multi device, that could be split! Do u have any recommendations on that sort of device? Thanks 

[kevhamster]

9 minutes ago, happy hammer1 said:

I was looking at more a multi device, that could be split! Do u have any recommendations on that sort of device? Thanks 

The issue here is you will pay a lot for a device like that, with a dedicated graphics card, such as this: https://www.currys.co.uk/products/microsoft-14.4-surface-laptop-studio-intel-core-i7-512-gb-ssd-platinum-10234254.html

Until we know what the system requirements are going to be for FM25, which isn't probably going to be until around this time next year, it's really hard to say with any certainty that machines with integrated graphics will be OK for FM25 onwards (although apparently 2D will still be an option which will likely help).

Edited August 30, 2023 by kevhamster

[happy hammer1]

Would the surface pro I attached do 2024 version and I’ll worry about 2025 next year lol

[kevhamster]

1 hour ago, happy hammer1 said:

Would the surface pro I attached do 2024 version and I’ll worry about 2025 next year lol

It should be, assuming the specs are in line with FM23's which I imagine they will be - up until next year's game which is an absolute unknown, the system requirements haven't changed much when it comes to running the game on Windows.

[zakbrown96]

On 30/08/2023 at 15:44, kevhamster said:

It should be, assuming the specs are in line with FM23's which I imagine they will be - up until next year's game which is an absolute unknown, the system requirements haven't changed much when it comes to running the game on Windows.

Wouldn’t this be a better purchase than the Surface. More screen estate and newer processor? https://www.currys.co.uk/products/hp-pavilion-x360-14ek1510sa-14-2-in-1-laptop-intel-core-i7-512-gb-ssd-silver-10250996.html

[jasonc2397]

Considering getting a new laptop, seen this one (https://www.currys.co.uk/products/lenovo-ideapad-gaming-3-15.6-gaming-laptop-amd-ryzen-5-rtx-3050-512-gb-ssd-10249077.html) recommended - wondering if there’s anything better for a similar budget, I’m used to having more RAM on my machine, not sure if that’s as important given this one appears to be a slightly more ‘gaming’ laptop?

Had a HP Envy with Intel Core i7 and an nvidia GEForce graphics card for about 8.5 years and it’s done me well but starting to slow down a bit, use it for playing FM, some light graphics stuff and DJing, so would like to replace it with something I can do all that on comfortably and watching films etc if travelling too.

[kevhamster]

7 hours ago, zakbrown96 said:

Wouldn’t this be a better purchase than the Surface. More screen estate and newer processor? https://www.currys.co.uk/products/hp-pavilion-x360-14ek1510sa-14-2-in-1-laptop-intel-core-i7-512-gb-ssd-silver-10250996.html

Yeah, I'd agree with that actually.

[kevhamster]

2 hours ago, jasonc2397 said:

Considering getting a new laptop, seen this one (https://www.currys.co.uk/products/lenovo-ideapad-gaming-3-15.6-gaming-laptop-amd-ryzen-5-rtx-3050-512-gb-ssd-10249077.html) recommended - wondering if there’s anything better for a similar budget, I’m used to having more RAM on my machine, not sure if that’s as important given this one appears to be a slightly more ‘gaming’ laptop?

Had a HP Envy with Intel Core i7 and an nvidia GEForce graphics card for about 8.5 years and it’s done me well but starting to slow down a bit, use it for playing FM, some light graphics stuff and DJing, so would like to replace it with something I can do all that on comfortably and watching films etc if travelling too.

If you don't mind going up to £700, this one has 16GB RAM which is probably a good idea: https://www.box.co.uk/82S90034UK-Lenovo-IdeaPad-Gaming-3-Intel-Core-i5-16_4338321.html

[xSEARLEYx]

Yeah, going from 8GB to 16GB ram would be worth the money 100%. I think a minimum of 16GB is needed nowadays 

[xSEARLEYx]

On 29/08/2023 at 21:12, SilvC2001 said:

Hi everyone, 

 

I know the FM25 specs aren’t out yet but does this look like a good enough laptop for the future? 
https://www.box.co.uk/82S900Y6UK-Lenovo-IdeaPad-Gaming-3-Intel-Core-i5-16_4378169.html?cq_src=google_ads&cq_cmp=18271212442&cq_con=&cq_term=&cq_med=pla&cq_plac=&cq_net=x&cq_pos=&cq_plt=gp&gclid=Cj0KCQjwi7GnBhDXARIsAFLvH4lyOti1YQ5WzSinhHqSI1qre4IPMu5Mp_CXxEzDE0qRN7tpJx7_JN4aApMSEALw_wcB

If you can hold off a year, the 40 series graphics cards will be cheaper by then and will be a better option than 30 series due to frame generation software. Can imagine FM is going to get an upgrade graphically with fm25, so may be something to keep in mind to future proof for it.

[SilvC2001]

15 hours ago, xSEARLEYx said:

If you can hold off a year, the 40 series graphics cards will be cheaper by then and will be a better option than 30 series due to frame generation software. Can imagine FM is going to get an upgrade graphically with fm25, so may be something to keep in mind to future proof for it.

Yeah I think that’s my plan to just play fm24 on console and wait until the specs are released, do you know if the 4050 is better than the 3060 for laptops?

[xSEARLEYx]

9 hours ago, SilvC2001 said:

Yeah I think that’s my plan to just play fm24 on console and wait until the specs are released, do you know if the 4050 is better than the 3060 for laptops?

UserBenchmark: Nvidia RTX 3060 (Laptop) vs 4050

Use that website to compare the benchmarks. I don't think the 4050 is worth the extra cost over the 3060 model imo. If you can afford to stretch out your budget to a 4060 laptop, then that is the sweet spot when it comes to laptop GPU and prices. The 30 series cards are still good for FM currently, but remember they are already a generation old and by the time FM25 comes out, the 50 series may be around the corner; and laptops cannot upgrade the graphics card. Like you said, it may be best to wait until the FM25 specs are announced first and then go from there, price wise etc.

[JB518]

Hi Everyone,

I was hoping someone could help as I know absolutely nothing about technology!

I am looking for a laptop solely to play football manager as mine has packed in.

I tend to only load the 4 top English leagues and I’m simply looking for the cheapest option that will run FM smoothly. I had purchased one before without seeking advice and that, even when brand new, was painfully slow to play on.

I am happy to buy refurbished also.

Is there anything available for less than £200? As I said, I won’t use the laptop for anything else.

Thanks

[kevhamster]

11 minutes ago, JB518 said:

Hi Everyone,

I was hoping someone could help as I know absolutely nothing about technology!

I am looking for a laptop solely to play football manager as mine has packed in.

I tend to only load the 4 top English leagues and I’m simply looking for the cheapest option that will run FM smoothly. I had purchased one before without seeking advice and that, even when brand new, was painfully slow to play on.

I am happy to buy refurbished also.

Is there anything available for less than £200? As I said, I won’t use the laptop for anything else.

Thanks

Under £200 is a stretch, even for pre-owned stuff.

https://www.laptopstation.co.uk/products/lenovo-ideapad-3-15-11th-generation-core-i3-8gb-ram-256gb-ssd-15-6-fhd-screen-laptop?_pos=10&_fid=6ce0d69e3&_ss=c

This is the cheapest thing I can find which would probably run the game smoothly.  You'll probably need to use lower 3D graphics settings, and with the as yet unannounced changes for system specs that FM25 will bring in, no idea how this will perform for that.

[JB518]

22 hours ago, kevhamster said:

Under £200 is a stretch, even for pre-owned stuff.

https://www.laptopstation.co.uk/products/lenovo-ideapad-3-15-11th-generation-core-i3-8gb-ram-256gb-ssd-15-6-fhd-screen-laptop?_pos=10&_fid=6ce0d69e3&_ss=c

This is the cheapest thing I can find which would probably run the game smoothly.  You'll probably need to use lower 3D graphics settings, and with the as yet unannounced changes for system specs that FM25 will bring in, no idea how this will perform for that.

Thank you!

[tantr0x]

I have recently started playing FM23 after borrowing a laptop which has i5-3337U (ranked 770th) with 8gb ram.  I'm finding it slow running 2 nations and 8 leagues with 24k players and hoping that a new laptop will be a noticable upgrade? 

I would like to limit myself to £500 but would go a wee bit higher if it was worth it.  I'll only really be playing FM and tend to play matches in 2D, would love to play multiple leagues with a large database and have it go from day to day quickly.

I would prefer a 14" screen so I can comfortably sit on the sofa with family and would like it to be quiet.  I've read that 16gb ram makes everything feel nicer but not 100% sure whether I actually need it.  I have never purchased refurbished electronic goods but would consider it. 

Quite the wish list and not sure if it is achievable with my budget so any advice is appreciated.  If I can't achieve a noticable difference in performance on this budget I'll continue to save until I can. 

Thank you for any assistance!

[Smurf]

15 minutes ago, tantr0x said:

I have recently started playing FM23 after borrowing a laptop which has i5-3337U (ranked 770th) with 8gb ram.  I'm finding it slow running 2 nations and 8 leagues with 24k players and hoping that a new laptop will be a noticable upgrade? 

I would like to limit myself to £500 but would go a wee bit higher if it was worth it.  I'll only really be playing FM and tend to play matches in 2D, would love to play multiple leagues with a large database and have it go from day to day quickly.

I would prefer a 14" screen so I can comfortably sit on the sofa with family and would like it to be quiet.  I've read that 16gb ram makes everything feel nicer but not 100% sure whether I actually need it.  I have never purchased refurbished electronic goods but would consider it. 

Quite the wish list and not sure if it is achievable with my budget so any advice is appreciated.  If I can't achieve a noticable difference in performance on this budget I'll continue to save until I can. 

Thank you for any assistance!

14

https://www.box.co.uk/9S7-14JK12-074-MSI-Modern-14-AMD-Ryzen-5-8GB-RAM-512GB-_4659960.html

15

https://www.box.co.uk/9S7-16R612-496-MSI-GF63-Intel-Core-i5-8GB-RAM-512GB-SSD_4103725.html