Scottababc Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 (edited) Hey guys, I loaded up the new editor to start making the rosters my own, and there are a lot of changes it seems this year. So I was thinking that as people figure out what some of these new features are, that they could post it in this forum. To me this editor does not preliminarily appear to be a clone of the FM 20 pregame editor. Also if this is a dumb idea feel free to delete this post. This forum I think is the right place for something like this. Edit: The new features (at least at the time when I checked) did not have their description under them when I hovered over them or tried to click them. Edited November 24, 2020 by Scottababc Needed to specify reason for this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AllStar4 Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 I was just downloaded the pregame editor and starting messing around with it. First new thing I noticed is on the player data -> general screen, with listings for peak current ability and peak potential ability (separate from current ability and potential ability). I am wondering if these have any bearing on a new game or if it is just a reference for how certain players were rated on previous versions. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wkdsoul Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 Peak PA/CA & Role ratings were the first thing i noticed. - not sure what they relate to ingame, if anything. They've moved the training in nation/club section as well (for anyone who used xml/excel to code build etc) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nahuelzn Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 The ability to click on a row an add comments it's new? I just opened the FM20 and couldn't find it. Seems useful. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nahuelzn Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 (edited) There's this new tab for non-players. Don't know what exactly tries to do. EDIT: Other new feature. You can now set the scouting package for the club. Edited November 24, 2020 by Nahuelzn Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
majesticeternity Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 (edited) New things for Players various shades of hair color? Hair length can now be "fuzz"?? Role Scores: Position Scores: Looks like they added back Disliked Clubs: For Non-Players: 4 formations now, I think? RCA based on Role: Regions - now have languages: Media - many more styles Edited November 24, 2020 by majesticeternity 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
majesticeternity Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 Added players are now in the 200000+s! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wkdsoul Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 39 minutes ago, majesticeternity said: Added players are now in the 200000+s! Good to know, I’ve 3000 or so to load into my database tomorrow. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sporadicsmiles Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 The tidying up of the advanced editor so you can select a competition from the drop down menu is pretty nice. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
majesticeternity Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 Did they remove some formations? I can't find any of these 3 in Fm21 Editor. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlorianAlbert9 Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 Do you know if something is changed in legends players from National Team? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
heisenbergzz Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 What about the pregame editor light skin? My eyes hurt. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigpole Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 I've noticed that submenus/sections without any data are greyed out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wkdsoul Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 10 hours ago, majesticeternity said: Did they remove some formations? I can't find any of these 3 in Fm21 Editor. does it save changes when you change these. its doesnt for me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
grade Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 (edited) I have an issue. My FM20 created teams, when using FM21 editor, they don't show up. Are we getting any sort of new features list? Edited November 24, 2020 by grade Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wkdsoul Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 1 minute ago, grade said: I have an issue. My FM20 created teams, when using FM21 editor, they don't show up. Are we getting any sort of new features list? DI you update the db record (see the sticky thre <record not found> Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Cro Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 4 minutes ago, grade said: I have an issue. My FM20 created teams, when using FM21 editor, they don't show up. Are we getting any sort of new features list? Same issue here.. which is shame.. I have database of almost 100 000 changes.. Any fix for this?? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
majesticeternity Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 11 minutes ago, Luke Cro said: Same issue here.. which is shame.. I have database of almost 100 000 changes.. Any fix for this?? Don’t show up how? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
majesticeternity Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 1 hour ago, wkdsoul said: does it save changes when you change these. its doesnt for me. Nope Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wkdsoul Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 Just now, majesticeternity said: Nope ive raised a bug for it, it notes the change but doesnt change the field. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krokknoff Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 12 hours ago, majesticeternity said: Did they remove some formations? I can't find any of these 3 in Fm21 Editor. They just renamed the 4-1-4-1 DM Wide back to 4-3-3 DM Wide. They flip flop on this one every other year or so it seems. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Cro Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 13 minutes ago, wkdsoul said: ive raised a bug for it, it notes the change but doesnt change the field. Thank you mate for helping with missing records! Any fix for kits when importing from Editor 20?? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wkdsoul Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 Just now, Luke Cro said: Thank you mate for helping with missing records! Any fix for kits when importing from Editor 20?? nope, had to raise that as a bug. You'll have to manually correct them for now. Couldnt see a fix sorry. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil930 Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 Has anyone solved what peak CA and PA actually do? In many cases I see these matched to given stats. For random PA, there is a fixed value below max, and then in some cases peak PA is below regular PA. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
krlenjushka Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 54 minutes ago, wkdsoul said: ive raised a bug for it, it notes the change but doesnt change the field. What exactly is problem here? I will install FM21 now so maybe i can help. Its kind of my area of expertise Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wkdsoul Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 1 minute ago, krlenjushka said: What exactly is problem here? I will install FM21 now so maybe i can help. Its kind of my area of expertise you can select the dropdown for a new tactic but the button will not change text no matter what you select. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wkdsoul Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 16 minutes ago, Phil930 said: Has anyone solved what peak CA and PA actually do? In many cases I see these matched to given stats. For random PA, there is a fixed value below max, and then in some cases peak PA is below regular PA. Nothing, its the highest PA they have had in previous versions it seems. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil930 Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 (edited) 7 minutes ago, wkdsoul said: Nothing, its the highest PA they have had in previous versions it seems. Ha, that is interesting. I wasted a lot of time adjusting those in a test file last night. Edited November 24, 2020 by Phil930 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fredrik Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 17 hours ago, majesticeternity said: New things for Players various shades of hair color? What's Nationality Info? In general it looks like a higher level of detail is possible. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
krlenjushka Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 6 minutes ago, wkdsoul said: you can select the dropdown for a new tactic but the button will not change text no matter what you select. Oh sorry i thought its some editor 20 data transfer issue. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wkdsoul Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 Just now, krlenjushka said: Oh sorry i thought its some editor 20 data transfer issue. no the only issue, i can still see at the min, is the swapping of kit colours. Red="xx" blue"yy" is being read as red="yy" blue="xx" when imported to 21. Even though correct in the xml itself Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wkdsoul Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 6 minutes ago, Phil930 said: Ha, that is interesting. I wasted a lot of time adjusting those in a test file last night. its a total guess at this point, till the editor guys gets some free time to respond to emails etc. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Cro Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 11 minutes ago, wkdsoul said: its a total guess at this point, till the editor guys gets some free time to respond to emails etc. Honestly, I doubt they will respond.. Editor 20 had some bugs that weren't fixed whole year, but hey, let's hope I'm wrong Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoffeeFueledCurmudgeon Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 (edited) Yeah, simply adding five subs for consistency is a problem. Plus imagine they've hardcoded five subs for this year's European comps only, and then it reverts to three? Edited November 24, 2020 by CoffeeFueledCurmudgeon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
grade Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, wkdsoul said: DI you update the db record (see the sticky thre <record not found> It works. Thank God, for Moderators like you. Edited November 24, 2020 by grade 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andu1 Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 Club tactical attributes? Not sure if this was already before but do they change anything in regards to how an AI manager sets his formation or change his formation? BTW this is also bugged it doesn't change to what you select it from the dropdown! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
samdiatmh Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 (edited) On 24/11/2020 at 11:53, Nahuelzn said: There's this new tab for non-players. Don't know what exactly tries to do. I've tinkered with it and have found the following basically it reads all the attributes into one area (and then adjusts it based on the CA) - the advantage is that it's in one centralised location (you can freely edit value), rather than scrolling through each section individually attribute - the name of the attribute value - what you want the value to be weighting - how much it contributes to CA (or the key attributes if you've set up a role) controlled attribute - what the game will scale it to based on the current CA (you've listed it as) difference - value minus controlled it's BRILLIANT for creating staff CA accurately (and works even better with "role scores" as a below option) not sure if it's the same with players, but plonk a staff role in and it'll change the weighting - with the role you've selected, only "youngsters" and "determination" are actually relevant (and "Mind Games" is essentially a free attribute, there's no difference between 1 and 20 for that role) you can make the other attributes whatever you want (potentially looks like a HOYD or youth manager based on those stats) edit: a similar menu exists for players too - it's awesome for creating players (and subsequently assigning a CA) - no longer just need to plonk CA200 and hope for the best, you can actually see what a lower CA (than recommended) will do to the ingame attribute values Edited November 25, 2020 by samdiatmh 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alian62 Posted November 25, 2020 Share Posted November 25, 2020 Trophy Type when making a league . Not sure what it does but im guessing it has a specific trophy when you win the league Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alian62 Posted November 25, 2020 Share Posted November 25, 2020 This didnt seem to have any effect on any of the options i chose . My stadium seemed to remain the same so maybe it isn't stadium related so not sure what they do? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carlito85 Posted November 25, 2020 Share Posted November 25, 2020 10 hours ago, alian62 said: This didnt seem to have any effect on any of the options i chose . My stadium seemed to remain the same so maybe it isn't stadium related so not sure what they do? Maybe the conference room or the changing rooms? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nikolaosaek Posted November 25, 2020 Share Posted November 25, 2020 On 24/11/2020 at 07:59, majesticeternity said: Did they remove some formations? I can't find any of these 3 in Fm21 Editor. the 4-1-4-1 is now 4-3-3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
spiros91 Posted November 26, 2020 Share Posted November 26, 2020 I am eager to find what peak CA/Pa mean... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
krlenjushka Posted November 26, 2020 Share Posted November 26, 2020 20 hours ago, Carlito85 said: Maybe the conference room or the changing rooms? I just noticed this option. Is this mavbe related to area around the stadium? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
krlenjushka Posted November 26, 2020 Share Posted November 26, 2020 On 24/11/2020 at 20:06, wkdsoul said: no the only issue, i can still see at the min, is the swapping of kit colours. Red="xx" blue"yy" is being read as red="yy" blue="xx" when imported to 21. Even though correct in the xml itself Also codes for color new value is different now. I editor 21 red is first color for codes - in editor 20 blue is first color codes. This is color code from editor 21 - as you can see <integer id="value" value="-6"/> is -6. This means 250/255/255 RGB In editor 20 color code -6 will be 255/255/250 RGB <record> <integer id="database_table_type" value="3"/> <large id="db_unique_id" value="3646325973860128473"/> <unsigned id="property" value="1416326961"/> <record id="new_value"> <unsigned id="id" value="1802723943"/> <integer id="value" value="-6"/> <integer id="lsop" value="1"/> <record id="olvl"> <integer id="kits" value="1"/> <integer id="bost" value="0"/> <integer id="kit_part" value="4"/> <colour id="ksfg" red="255" green="255" blue="255" alpha="255"/> <colour id="ksbg" red="255" green="255" blue="250" alpha="255"/> <colour id="ksou" red="0" green="0" blue="0" alpha="255"/> <colour id="nmcl" red="255" green="255" blue="255" alpha="255"/> <colour id="nmoc" red="0" green="0" blue="0" alpha="255"/> <integer id="ktal" value="0"/> <null id="competition"/> <null id="year"/> </record> </record> <integer id="version" value="2959"/> <integer id="db_random_id" value="243987948"/> <boolean id="is_client_field" value="true"/> </record> Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wkdsoul Posted November 26, 2020 Share Posted November 26, 2020 4 minutes ago, krlenjushka said: Also codes for color new value is different now. I editor 21 red is first color for codes - in editor 20 blue is first color codes. This is color code from editor 21 - as you can see <integer id="value" value="-6"/> is -6. This means 250/255/255 RGB In editor 20 color code -6 will be 255/255/250 RGB ... Yehah, had to manually correct mine, didnt take me long though Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
krlenjushka Posted November 26, 2020 Share Posted November 26, 2020 I keep all my data in excel so no problem for me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
samdiatmh Posted November 26, 2020 Share Posted November 26, 2020 On 25/11/2020 at 06:02, Fredrik said: What's Nationality Info? In general it looks like a higher level of detail is possible. Nationality info is basically how they are eligible for that nation (declared for nation, born there, eligible through [grand]parents, citizen, resident but not citizen, citizen but treated as foreign [places like China will have this]) Basically creating a difference into the type of person, rather than just a random national (kinda like how people are IRL) 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gutmensch1995 Posted November 26, 2020 Share Posted November 26, 2020 I'm not sure where to post this, but... I tried to change Nation Rules and got to the point when the Editor validated my database. Unfortunately, when I select the database, the changes aren't in the game. Is there anything else I have to do before using the database? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alian62 Posted November 27, 2020 Share Posted November 27, 2020 On 26/11/2020 at 19:10, krlenjushka said: I just noticed this option. Is this mavbe related to area around the stadium? nope it didnt change anything for me Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
krlenjushka Posted November 27, 2020 Share Posted November 27, 2020 4 minutes ago, alian62 said: nope it didnt change anything for me Im not suprised at all. We ask this to be added for several years but SI just dont care about that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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