D3BU9 Posted January 2, 2021 Share Posted January 2, 2021 (edited) Hey, thanks for your working, do you have any plan for future upgrade? I should start a new game with your patch few weeks later. Edited January 2, 2021 by D3BU9 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danchinaski Posted January 3, 2021 Share Posted January 3, 2021 Had a test run through this and all good so far, only a few issues to report which you might want to look at: The regional movement between leagues for a couple of clubs is off, they end up in the Northern League. These clubs all have no stadium (Aldermaston, Greenway, Ringwood) and I've found in the past that without a stadium anchored to accurate latitude and longitude coordinates the regionalising doesn't hold up after a few seasons. I've added stadiums to these clubs and will see how it goes on another test. There were a few other odd movements too. eg Rainworth moving to the NW Counties League should not be happening. I'm not good at editing, but do wonder if there's a way of inputting all these strict stadium data co-ordinates into one editor data file and then basically enabling lower league creators to carry that over for future editions, if there is I'd be willing to help out with regard to inputting this if required. I've also noticed that players/staff without a birthplace now default to 'London' as their place of birth, this detracts from realism somewhat, is this a known bug? Other than that, this looks like a great piece of work, especially given the complications of the leagues restructuring - this is the only way I play the game and this database makes it possible, thank you! 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
iGoldenBen Posted January 6, 2021 Share Posted January 6, 2021 Playing as Bury AFC and wasn't entered into the FA Vase at all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danchinaski Posted January 6, 2021 Share Posted January 6, 2021 7 hours ago, iGoldenBen said: Playing as Bury AFC and wasn't entered into the FA Vase at all. If l remember correctly phoenix clubs aren't allowed into the Vase until two years after they've formed - l may be wrong on this but l remember this preventing Scarborough Athletic playing in the Vase in their early years. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barkermush Posted January 7, 2021 Share Posted January 7, 2021 Great work, thanks for this. Playing as Padiham and there away kit colours are the old ones, this is there new away kit for this season a pink/red ish one: https://twitter.com/Padiham_FC/status/1322981244636987392?s=20https://twitter.com/Padiham_FC/status/1322981244636987392?s=20 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
iGoldenBen Posted January 7, 2021 Share Posted January 7, 2021 1 hour ago, Danchinaski said: If l remember correctly phoenix clubs aren't allowed into the Vase until two years after they've formed - l may be wrong on this but l remember this preventing Scarborough Athletic playing in the Vase in their early years. You may have a point but they played in the fa vase in real life in their inaugural season Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danchinaski Posted January 7, 2021 Share Posted January 7, 2021 15 minutes ago, iGoldenBen said: You may have a point but they played in the fa vase in real life in their inaugural season In which case disregard my above post! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoyInGreen Posted January 10, 2021 Author Share Posted January 10, 2021 On 03/01/2021 at 21:20, Danchinaski said: Had a test run through this and all good so far, only a few issues to report which you might want to look at: The regional movement between leagues for a couple of clubs is off, they end up in the Northern League. These clubs all have no stadium (Aldermaston, Greenway, Ringwood) and I've found in the past that without a stadium anchored to accurate latitude and longitude coordinates the regionalising doesn't hold up after a few seasons. I've added stadiums to these clubs and will see how it goes on another test. There were a few other odd movements too. eg Rainworth moving to the NW Counties League should not be happening. I'm not good at editing, but do wonder if there's a way of inputting all these strict stadium data co-ordinates into one editor data file and then basically enabling lower league creators to carry that over for future editions, if there is I'd be willing to help out with regard to inputting this if required. I've also noticed that players/staff without a birthplace now default to 'London' as their place of birth, this detracts from realism somewhat, is this a known bug? Other than that, this looks like a great piece of work, especially given the complications of the leagues restructuring - this is the only way I play the game and this database makes it possible, thank you! Hi Danchinaski, Many thanks for your feedback on this! Regarding the clubs without stadia, this is only for Level 10, as I have filled in any gaps in the leagues above that. I have added cities, stadia and colours to the three clubs you mentioned in the latest update, which can be found in the description as usual. As regards your idea about creating a common database, I'm certainly all for it. Perhaps we could use the discord to work out the finer details? Regarding the London bug, that's the first time this has come to my attention, but from what you are saying, I suspect that this is a new feature this year (previously it would be given as "unknown") which is perhaps in need of tweaking (perhaps the city of the person's first club would be a good estimate?). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
krlenjushka Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 On 02/12/2020 at 21:25, BoyInGreen said: Sadly no. The issue was the play-offs between Step 4 and Step 5. Apparently any competition containing sub-divisions cannot support cross-divisional playoffs. Hence why I had to introduce the workaround. Cross-divisional playoff is often nightmare no matter how divisions are set. What exactly was your problem here? Have you tested this in game or only in editor? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ratio1618 Posted January 13, 2021 Share Posted January 13, 2021 Think i found a bug. Im in Tier 10 in the 21/22 and the league doesnt have play offs jsut 3 auto promos. Also i got entered into the FA vase for some reason but it wasnt drawing correctly Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ratio1618 Posted January 13, 2021 Share Posted January 13, 2021 Scratch that it works now Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oche balboa Posted January 13, 2021 Share Posted January 13, 2021 This looks a really good file, Needs a little more work but the majority of good stuff is on it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jam jameson Posted January 13, 2021 Share Posted January 13, 2021 I've tested it through 2060 and no major bugs occur, so i'd say it's fully playable in the long term. some minor issues in promotion and fa vase, but all considered a fantastic work 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CityAndColour Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 So I'm 29 league games into the first season (running just down to level 7) and the amount of goals in my division is insane. The top two teams (Met Police and Tiverton) have gotten 34, 30, 25 and 24 goals from their strikers, while the leading scorer in any other division has 15 so far. Hoping it's a game issue or just a freak one off and not a database one! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eggie86 Posted January 29, 2021 Share Posted January 29, 2021 Any idea whether Dial Square will be in? Seems like they are much lower than the current Level 10? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FCUtdWill Posted January 29, 2021 Share Posted January 29, 2021 8 hours ago, Eggie86 said: Any idea whether Dial Square will be in? Seems like they are much lower than the current Level 10? They’re in the Guildford & Woking Alliance Premier North, at Level 13. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoyInGreen Posted January 30, 2021 Author Share Posted January 30, 2021 On 25/01/2021 at 10:58, CityAndColour said: So I'm 29 league games into the first season (running just down to level 7) and the amount of goals in my division is insane. The top two teams (Met Police and Tiverton) have gotten 34, 30, 25 and 24 goals from their strikers, while the leading scorer in any other division has 15 so far. Hoping it's a game issue or just a freak one off and not a database one! It's definitely a game issue: I haven't touched any of the players' stats nor reputations. When I was playing Bury, Kamar Moncrieffe was scoring 40+ goals a season in Levels 9 and 10, so it's not a fluke. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eggie86 Posted January 31, 2021 Share Posted January 31, 2021 On 29/01/2021 at 17:17, FCUtdWill said: They’re in the Guildford & Woking Alliance Premier North, at Level 13. Ah I see. Thanks a lot for the heads up mate. Wonder if anyone will go any lower than the current Level 11. So far that's the lowest I've come across on both FM20/FM21 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FCUtdWill Posted January 31, 2021 Share Posted January 31, 2021 2 hours ago, Eggie86 said: Ah I see. Thanks a lot for the heads up mate. Wonder if anyone will go any lower than the current Level 11. So far that's the lowest I've come across on both FM20/FM21 No problem, check Dan’s thread in this subforum, he’s currently working on level 12 leagues. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eggie86 Posted February 8, 2021 Share Posted February 8, 2021 On 31/01/2021 at 18:20, FCUtdWill said: No problem, check Dan’s thread in this subforum, he’s currently working on level 12 leagues. Cheers mate. Will give it a look. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivs Posted February 25, 2021 Share Posted February 25, 2021 @BoyInGreenany chance to update the file for 21.3 database version? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ratio1618 Posted February 25, 2021 Share Posted February 25, 2021 7 hours ago, Ivs said: @BoyInGreenany chance to update the file for 21.3 database version? He already updated read the thread. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivs Posted February 26, 2021 Share Posted February 26, 2021 3 ore fa, ratio1618 ha scritto: He already updated read the thread. No, it's not updated for 21.3. You probably mistook it for another English lower leagues file. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danchinaski Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 On 10/01/2021 at 22:00, BoyInGreen said: Hi Danchinaski, Many thanks for your feedback on this! Regarding the clubs without stadia, this is only for Level 10, as I have filled in any gaps in the leagues above that. I have added cities, stadia and colours to the three clubs you mentioned in the latest update, which can be found in the description as usual. As regards your idea about creating a common database, I'm certainly all for it. Perhaps we could use the discord to work out the finer details? Regarding the London bug, that's the first time this has come to my attention, but from what you are saying, I suspect that this is a new feature this year (previously it would be given as "unknown") which is perhaps in need of tweaking (perhaps the city of the person's first club would be a good estimate?). Apologies for being so late in coming back to this (had taken a hiatus from FM full stop due to real life getting in the way) but I'd be very happy to contribute in terms of research/data for lower league databases, if we get one solid block of accurate data down it would probably only need doing the once, with minor tweaks for future editions. Getting the lat/long co-ordinates for stadiums for example, is time consuming research but once done it should be forever accurate - drop me a message if l can help with this. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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