GunmaN1905 Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 Just now, themadsheep2001 said: Maybe next time don't quote an Irish person and say this is why people hate the English, makes you look incredibly stupid. Yeah, because it is about that specific individual's nationality and not the entire English media trying to argue the same thing, ffs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Adam Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 (edited) 4 minutes ago, GunmaN1905 said: Yeah, because it is about that specific individual's nationality and not the entire English media trying to argue the same thing, ffs. EDITED and just put Gunman on ignore Edited July 8, 2021 by Mr Adam Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Cartman Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 3 minutes ago, Reggiana said: I know they shuffle across, I still think they're a yard in front of the wall though. Kick still hasn't been taken and the 1 in the middle has already made his run next to the wall to block Pickford's view Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
themadsheep2001 Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 1 minute ago, Coulthard's Jaw said: Personally I don't think stuff like Sterling should be a penalty, but it consistently is given these days so I'm not complaining about Sterling playing for it. Yep. It's a soft penalty, but we see them constantly given, and VAR doesn't overturn them. This is literally run of the mill stuff. It's also entirely in keeping with how last night was reffed Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunmaN1905 Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 Just now, Mr Adam said: There are plenty of international people arguing the same thing you absolute moron. I'll take the ban for this - you're being a ****ing imbecile. **** off. How f-ing ignorant you have to be to not understand the point I'm trying to make. If I quoted any of the hundred English media people arguing the same thing, it would be fine? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pompeyboyz Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 Just now, GunmaN1905 said: Yeah, because it is about that specific individual's nationality and not the entire English media trying to argue the same thing, ffs. So many of the British Media actually saying that it was a soft penalty doesn't change how you feel? One of the most patriotic Englishmen in Ian Wright said it was iffy. End of the day, the ref gave the penalty and it was missed and then the rebound was scored. England won 2-1 on the night and go to the final. That's history.....nothing you say can change that history...you are just being stupid and bitter and feeding the euphoria Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oche balboa Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 Wasn't a Penalty but i will take it because we have had some **** against us in the past Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yuko Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 1 hour ago, foolsgold said: Oh lord I was out last night but reading these pages back has been fantastic. The saltiness level in here . I honestly can't fathom how another team that you don't even support can make somebody so angry, proper perplexing stuff. Injustice tends to make people salty. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
themadsheep2001 Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 What it comes down to gunman is that you can't accept people having a different opinion to you or the possibility you might be wrong. So you have spent the last 14 hours having the kind of meltdown even a toddler would be embarrassed about. You've argued yourself into absolute knots, the low point being your bizarre point about the red card against blanc Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reggiana Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 Just now, Barry Cartman said: Kick still hasn't been taken and the 1 in the middle has already made his run next to the wall to block Pickford's view Yes but he's still a yard away from the wall. It's Kjaer and the only England player he goes close to on his run is Mount, who isn't in the wall. The Danes are on the line and the England wall is about a yard back from the line. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yuko Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 1 hour ago, Bigwig said: I’m not sure why people always seem to see things in blacks and white. The penalty was either a stonewall penalty or an obvious dive. The very fact it’s being debated so much makes it literally a debatable penalty. Also, after all this time people still don’t know what the purpose of VAR is and don’t get the ‘clear and obvious’ part. VAR doesn’t overturn that decision either way. If the ref originally doesn’t give then pen then VAR doesn’t overturn the decision. It's not debated. Everyone everywhere in the world calls it a blatant dive, every referee expert says the play should have been stopped due to the second ball being there.. there's no debate. There's just some English fans that are cagey about expressing delight in the way the result came and pundits calling it "soft" to save face and not use the term "non-existent". What exactly is under debate? Sterling took a dive. There was a ball sitting at the edge of the Denmark box and the actual ball went to that spot and they could have even collided... Are we going to call the Danes fools for not going to kick the other ball that the ref should have stopped the play for already? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
themadsheep2001 Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 1 minute ago, Reggiana said: Yes but he's still a yard away from the wall. It's Kjaer and the only England player he goes close to on his run is Mount, who isn't in the wall. The Danes are on the line and the England wall is about a yard back from the line. See I'm not entirely sure whether that was rule breaking or really clever from Denmark Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Butts Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 People who can watch that video and still think it’s not a penalty should just give up with football tbf 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
enigmatic Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 Gunman continuing to fire furiously at his own feet. I think he's hoping for a penalty Can the mods change his avatar to this? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Adam Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 Just now, Yuko said: It's not debated. Everyone everywhere in the world calls it a blatant dive, every referee expert says the play should have been stopped due to the second ball being there.. there's no debate. There's just some English fans that are cagey about expressing delight in the way the result came and pundits calling it "soft" to save face and not use the term "non-existent". What exactly is under debate? Sterling took a dive. There was a ball sitting at the edge of the Denmark box and the actual ball went to that spot and they could have even collided... Are we going to call the Danes fools for not going to kick the other ball that the ref should have stopped the play for already? You know your argument falls apart as desperate completely when you start talking about the second ball. That's just bad luck. Ignore button coming in super handy today. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthCoastRed Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 7 minutes ago, Haguey said: 13 hour meltdowns are my favourite. I was thinking maybe for the final we could have mass bannings. Been a while since we had a real ding dong mudslinger 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
martinji Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 4 minutes ago, themadsheep2001 said: Yep. It's a soft penalty, but we see them constantly given, and VAR doesn't overturn them. This is literally run of the mill stuff. It's also entirely in keeping with how last night was reffed exactly this! I still don't think it was a penalty but I must have seen at least 100 like that given. It's hardly the worst decision ever or some conspiracy evidence. It's also certainly subjective enough for VAR not to overturn. Furthermore although I agree our commentators & pundits often peddle the "english players don't dive (as much)", I don't think many fans think that, we're well aware that our players started dangling legs, exaggerating contract, stepping across to draw fouls etc ages ago. I admit I don't like it but it's the modern game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Cartman Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 4 minutes ago, Reggiana said: Yes but he's still a yard away from the wall. It's Kjaer and the only England player he goes close to on his run is Mount, who isn't in the wall. The Danes are on the line and the England wall is about a yard back from the line. The rule is 1 metre and they're not 1m away from the wall even in that screenshot Kjaer ends up stood next to wall when its taken, in between the main wall and Mount Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darren Moores Mum Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 The ball didn't interfere. It was a penalty. Suck it up, buttercups. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
foolsgold Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 7 minutes ago, Yuko said: Injustice tends to make people salty. Very bizarre to get salty when you're not even a fan of either team though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthCoastRed Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 1 minute ago, ginnybob said: The ball didn't interfere. It was a penalty. Suck it up, buttercups. I said that. And got called old Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Cartman Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 4 minutes ago, Butts said: People who can watch that video and still think it’s not a penalty should just give up with football tbf Its baffling isn't it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pompeyboyz Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 1 minute ago, foolsgold said: Very bizarre to get salty when you're not even a fan of either team though. Didn't you know everyone hates England Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kpain16 Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 32 minutes ago, Barry Cartman said: VAR shouldn't have allowed the Denmark free kick to stand, it was nothing to do with a foul, they had players within 1 metre of the England wall, they were even blocking Pickford's view doing it This basically won France the World cup (as a momentum shift). Fouls outside the box (or what you said) are not in VAR territory so discussing that is clutching at straws. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darren Moores Mum Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 Just now, SouthCoastRed said: I said that. And got called old I aged enough last night that I know how you feel now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pompeyboyz Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 Watch this thread explode with so much salt that I want it on my popcorn Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haguey Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 4 minutes ago, SouthCoastRed said: I was thinking maybe for the final we could have mass bannings. Been a while since we had a real ding dong mudslinger Mods will be clicking that ban button like they're playing Minesweeper Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yuko Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 29 minutes ago, Barry Cartman said: VAR shouldn't have allowed the Denmark free kick to stand, it was nothing to do with a foul, they had players within 1 metre of the England wall, they were even blocking Pickford's view doing it Lol, no. I've seen this go viral, it's just so wrong! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
themadsheep2001 Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 Just now, Haguey said: Mods will be clicking that ban button like they're playing Minesweeper Pray for @Butts 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reggiana Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 2 minutes ago, Barry Cartman said: The rule is 1 metre and they're not 1m away from the wall even in that screenshot Kjaer ends up stood next to wall when its taken, in between the main wall and Mount The line on the pitch where the wall are meant to be stood and the edge of the box look one metre apart to me. No one touches anyone in the wall, which is what the rule was brought in to prevent. I would hate VAR to start getting the lines out for something like that and deciding to disallow a goal for someone only being 0.7m away from the wall at a free kick. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthCoastRed Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 1 minute ago, themadsheep2001 said: Pray for @Butts Pray for @MavReck, @Butts will be pissed and @Snedhead asleep with indifference so poor old Mav will have to shoulder the load. OTFs own Mule-Mod 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yuko Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 18 minutes ago, themadsheep2001 said: Maybe next time don't quote an Irish person and say this is why people hate the English, makes you look incredibly stupid. For someone who has had a lot of terrible opinions, you seem really intent in not letting anyone have ones different to you You could have twisted this to say that people hate the English because they confuse them with the Irish. Opportunity lost Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haguey Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 @MavReck could never ban anyone, he's too nice. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 I love how people are interpreting the rules on both of the contentious decisions. Either you have read the rules and are that biased you're glossing over them or you have no clue what you're talking about. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yuko Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 12 minutes ago, Mr Adam said: You know your argument falls apart as desperate completely when you start talking about the second ball. That's just bad luck. Ignore button coming in super handy today. Sing along now; two balls and one dive, England all the way. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MavReck Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 5 minutes ago, SouthCoastRed said: Pray for @MavReck, @Butts will be pissed and @Snedhead asleep with indifference so poor old Mav will have to shoulder the load. OTFs own Mule-Mod You never know, Ham might show up... ah, I see what you're saying now. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yuko Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 11 minutes ago, foolsgold said: Very bizarre to get salty when you're not even a fan of either team though. Remarkable viewpoint. Let's not give a crap about anything if it's not directly affecting us, shall we? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coulthard's Jaw Posted July 8, 2021 Author Share Posted July 8, 2021 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reggiana Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 1 minute ago, Coulthard's Jaw said: Don't see why they should start proceedings against England but they absolutely should be trying to identify the idiot in question. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthCoastRed Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 1 minute ago, Reggiana said: Don't see why they should start proceedings against England but they absolutely should be trying to identify the idiot in question. Next match behind closed doors….imagine the scenes 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
foolsgold Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 4 minutes ago, Yuko said: Remarkable viewpoint. Let's not give a crap about anything if it's not directly affecting us, shall we? Not really what I said though is it? If there was a debatable penalty decision in the Spain v Italy game, I'd have taken an interest in it. I would absolutely not have thrown my toys out of the pram over it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yuko Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 Just now, foolsgold said: Not really what I said though is it? If there was a debatable penalty decision in the Spain v Italy game, I'd have taken an interest in it. I would absolutely not have thrown my toys out of the pram over it. It kinda is. Maybe you don't mind injustice as much as you thought then. The only 'debatable' part here is whether or not RoW has to break it to England fans that it was a blatant non-call that has tainted their qualification to a first ever Euro final or not. The call was a disgrace considering VAR. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 1 minute ago, foolsgold said: Not really what I said though is it? If there was a debatable penalty decision in the Spain v Italy game, I'd have taken an interest in it. I would absolutely not have thrown my toys out of the pram over it. Yuko and Gunman have a thing about England. They try and deny it but the facade slips often what really pisses me off is they are pushing me in to wanting England to win on Sunday. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pukey Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 Look, I can completely understand people saying it's a bit soft, but the replay shows incredibly clear contact. VAR is never, ever, ever going to overturn that decision. And nor should it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunmaN1905 Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 32 minutes ago, Mr Adam said: EDITED and just put Gunman on ignore Wow, such a big man to call me an imbecile then change your mind 5minutes later and edit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pompeyboyz Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 9 minutes ago, Coulthard's Jaw said: Just add more ammo to the salty tears brigade Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darren Moores Mum Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 Yeah, I don't think we'll give a **** whether the 'ROW' thinks it would be tainted or not. Maybe you should stop pretending you're as unbiased as you try to make out. The anti-English sentiment seeps out of you. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
themadsheep2001 Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 14 minutes ago, Crazy_Ivan said: I love how people are interpreting the rules on both of the contentious decisions. Either you have read the rules and are that biased you're glossing over them or you have no clue what you're talking about. The rules themselves still require some sort of subjective though Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigwig Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 How was the Danish national anthem ‘disrupted’? Was it just the boos or anything else? If it was just the boos we would be charged after every game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
themadsheep2001 Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 Just now, Bigwig said: How was the Danish national anthem ‘disrupted’? Was it just the boos or anything else? If it was just the boos we would be charged after every game. Boos and fireworks apparently. Didn't see the fireworks and TBF we should be charged every game for the booing Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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