XaW Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 25 minutes ago, naterego93 said: Every normal studio release their patch notes, if we're paying for something then we have the right to know. Yes, when they patch things SI releases patch notes. No studio I know will have notes for an initial release. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KamyKaze Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 On the topic of no release of patch notes. Bought Forza Horizon 5 to get early access and the game is literally unplayable as it crashes everytime. Refunded it. If at release day there's no patch notes, I won't bother to look into it agai. FM is a different beast as you'll be way past the 2h mark that steams allows it before deciding that you don't like it probably, but I could see people refunding it and not wanting to buy it again cause they don't know if what made them refund the game is fixed or not Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alian62 Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 (edited) 13 minutes ago, XaW said: Yes, when they patch things SI releases patch notes. No studio I know will have notes for an initial release. They use to release all the new features when released a years ago . Think they stopped after FM17 Edited November 8, 2021 by alian62 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
d d Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 3 minutes ago, alian62 said: They use to release all the new features when released a years ago . Think they stopped after FM17 The new features are in game now. They tell you there. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Metal Posted November 8, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted November 8, 2021 Out of respect for those of us who all took time to report bugs and submit screenshots, pkms etc, the least they can do is release some info on fixes 16 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
XaW Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 Feel free to disagree, but SI don't release patch notes for the initial release. Move along from that theme now, please, and keep this on feedback on the beta. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigmattb28 Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 4 minutes ago, Metal said: Out of respect for those of us who all took time to report bugs and submit screenshots, pkms etc, the least they can do is release some info on fixes Do they not update the big tracker / each thread for the bugs raised? The only ones I've raised are data related and on the specific thread for each they mod or whoever looks after that area has said will be updated on release. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
saihtam Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 31 minutes ago, bigmattb28 said: I've already booked the day off, praying for a 8am-ish release. Surely tho it should be available by then Dont know what to believe anymore as gamepass shows it is coming today. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post deaks500 Posted November 8, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted November 8, 2021 So last day of the Beta and i've played around 70 hours - I've played the Beta, like so many people , with Newcastle , just for the money and the chance to buy a whole new squad. My usual save is a no badges journeyman save which i'm excited to start tomorrow, so i don't expect to be back in the position of throwing money around on the top players until many years into my save. Ok so i have no issues with the match engine, it looks the best it ever has with the new animations and honestly i put it on comp highlights just cos its so pretty to watch. I'm not that technical that i can spot what's working and what's not, i'll leave that for others that can read the flow of games better but from my perspective it's fine. The one big thing i've noticed is that VAR is far less frustrating than last year, with at least being 50/50 that a goal will be allowed/disallowed. The match UI is something i've liked from when it came out last year, my only gripe is that if your not playing on a big screen, or high resolution, you can only have 2 panels on the tablet. The headline things like staff meetings, deadline day i can take or leave, glad that its there but doesn't revolutionise the way i play Data hub, however is a bit of a game changer, in terms of i've actually used it to tweek opposition instructions (i saw MU had outstanding crossing and heading stats, so i forced them inside on my tactic and actually noticed the difference) Not sure how it will work in LLM with poor analysts but yeah happy with that. I've come to realise that from FM to FM, i don't necessarily want big new features, just more QofL changes, which is what we are getting this year. I appreciate that for some people that wouldnt be enough to invest £30-£40 but for me it's a steal compared to the amount of hours i've had just out of the Beta. So yep thanks SI for another stella edition of my favorite game that i will sink hundreds of hours in to - not one of them wasted 19 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlorianAlbert9 Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 (edited) I wait for the demo. But what leaves a bad taste in my mouth is that despite all the good words about dribblings/animations i don't see a single dribbling in the YouTube videos. Again. I don't remember what is the last version of FM where players can make solo goals like Messi but i think was 10 or plus years ago, maybe FM07. FM's goals are a mess more boring than real goals On an dribbling animations Point of View even 1998 (23 years ago) games have more creativity and quality. The goal of Larson in FIfa2001 is very natural and easthetical amazing compared to the boring goals we have in FM now. In FM, unfortunately, players like R9, Ronaldinho, Okocha etc.. play at the same way than Gattuso, Kante, Keane Edited November 8, 2021 by FlorianAlbert9 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Metal Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 (edited) 12 minutes ago, FlorianAlbert9 said: I wait for the demo. But what leaves a bad taste in my mouth is that despite all the good words about dribblings/animations i don't see a single dribbling in the YouTube videos. Again. I don't remember what is the last version of FM where players can make solo goals like Messi but i think was 10 or plus years ago, maybe FM07. FM's goals are a mess more boring than real goals On an dribbling animations Point of View even 1998 (23 years ago) games have more creativity and quality. The goal of Larson in FIfa2001 is very natural and easthetical amazing compared to the boring goals we have in FM now. In FM, unfortunately, players like R9, Ronaldinho, Okocha etc.. play at the same way than Gattuso, Kante, Keane Totally agree, the dribbling has gone backwards from fm21in my opinion but it's too early too judge. Hopefully final release they've noticed the lack of dribbling and we see players dribbling past players through centre midfield. It doesn't have to be fifa level graphics just have players with special traits and high dribbling attributes be more inclined to dribble past players more. Edited November 8, 2021 by Metal 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlorianAlbert9 Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 (edited) 9 minuti fa, Metal ha scritto: Totally agree, the dribbling has gone backwards from fm21in my opinion but it's too early too judge. Hopefully final release they've noticed the lack of dribbling and we see players dribbling past players through centre midfield. It doesn't have to be fifa level graphics just have players with special traits and high dribbling attributes be more inclined to dribble past players more. of course, i don't care about good looking graphics. But tendency to dribbling (and more animations in the future editions) And more creativity in players' actions/decisions Pratically all goals by Ronaldo at Barca (1996-97) are goals that FM cannot replicate. Edited November 8, 2021 by FlorianAlbert9 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ediokwok Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 I know that the game has just come out & it's a big change to make but in the future I think the tactics when defending should be more nuanced. In particular, I'm talking about the way the team presses. Even if your settings are on pressing very urgently, most of the time players tend to press individually whilst the rest of the team are in shape. Maybe we can include things such as pressing triggers too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leon_fogo Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 I think it will go out today! In an hour it will be ??? LOL Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheArsenal63 Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 4 hours ago, Metal said: Out of respect for those of us who all took time to report bugs and submit screenshots, pkms etc, the least they can do is release some info on fixes Yep. Although I have a few tests I will be doing for about an hour to see if they fixed the most egregious of the issues. As a customer, I shouldn't have to do this, especially if you participated in the beta to create those bug stories, then there should be some sort of confirmation on which bugs they attempted to fix etc. If they didn't fix the big issues then I think I'll go back to FM21 like I have been for a while. Let's hope they did. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheArsenal63 Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 (edited) For all here who aren't aware , Miles tweeted this : And this from FMScout : With justification, so they are not making it up : https://twitter.com/fmscout/status/1457736161040994305?s=20 Edited November 8, 2021 by TheArsenal63 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dannyrefc Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 AND ITS LIVEEEEEE...... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
f.zaarour Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 Alot have been said already, hope it will be fixed to a great balanced full version game! - Hope the full release has also more attention to (classic) 2D cam! - When ticked no transfer in first transferperiode, the salary budget should be there for renewing contract etc. - When dominating the game in chances, u still only have 30 to 40 % poss. which is abit odd. - No height shown in player profile (but ye will use a skin anyway). - Hope the awful facial hair of nextgens etc. are improved! Not seen, but hopefully more soon... - penalties for handball - a player being attacked by the Gk when he tries to go around the GK. Penalty earned. - Giving the manager yellow and red cards. Anyway lets go, full release is there... tic tac tic tac tic tac! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spurs08 Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 I see you've treated yourselves to a nice touch of inflation on the in-game editor 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Neil Brock Posted November 8, 2021 Author Administrators Share Posted November 8, 2021 Game is out! New feedback thread is open - https://community.sigames.com/forums/topic/558883-official-football-manager-2022-feedback-thread/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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