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Type: Desktop

Model: Self Build

CPU Model: AMD Ryzen 7 2700

CPU Base Frequency: 3.20 GHz

CPU Turbo Frequency: 4.10 GHz

RAM: 16GB DDR4

RAM Clockspeed: 3000Mhz

GPU: GTX 1060 6GB

Graphics Level in 3D: High

Storage Type: SSD

Benchmark A: 01 min 57 Sec

Benchmark B: 09 min 39 Sec

Benchmark C: 18 min 25 Sec

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I think i need help with my setup. My results look bad compared to other users. Any tips ?

 

Type: Laptop

Model: Alienware x15r1

CPU Model: Intel I9 11900H

CPU Base Frequency: 2,50 GHz

CPU Turbo Frequency: 4,9 GHz

RAM: 32GB

RAM Clockspeed: 3200 Mhz

GPU: Geforce 3070 rtx

Graphics Level in 3D: High

Storage Type: SSD

Before/after optimization

Benchmark A: 01 min 37 Sec/ 1min22

Benchmark B: 07 min 33 Sec/ 7min01

Benchmark C: 14 min 28 Sec/ 12min55

Benchmark D: 41 min 14 Sec

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2 hours ago, SpS_Zen said:

I think i need help with my setup. My results look bad compared to other users. Any tips ?

 

Type: Laptop

Model: Alienware x15r1

CPU Model: Intel I9 11900H

CPU Base Frequency: 2,50 GHz

CPU Turbo Frequency: 4,9 GHz

RAM: 32GB

RAM Clockspeed: 3200 Mhz

GPU: Geforce 3070 rtx

Graphics Level in 3D: High

Storage Type: SSD

Benchmark A: 01 min 37 Sec

Benchmark B: 07 min 33 Sec

Benchmark C: 14 min 28 Sec

Benchmark D: 41 min 14 Sec

Few obvious things so apologies in advance

  • Freshly boot the laptop
  • High power mode in power plans
  • Make sure its plugged in
  • Disable any background programs
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  • Get a program to check the temps and the CPU frequency (I use HWMonitor), it might be that it overheats at 4.9ghz frequency and throttles down to the base of 2.5ghz which could be caused by dust in the fans etc
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24 minutes ago, Brother Ben said:

Get a program to check the temps and the CPU frequency (I use HWMonitor), it might be that it overheats at 4.9ghz frequency and throttles down to the base of 2.5ghz which could be caused by dust in the fans etc

This is very important. Dell did a terrible job with cooling in my G5 so even if the max boost is 4.5GHz it barely gets to 4 GHz and throttles. I'm sure I'll gain back more performance if I repasted the CPU with better thermal compound and cleaned the fans but I'm too lazy to do that 

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6 minutes ago, DarJ said:

This is very important. Dell did a terrible job with cooling in my G5 so even if the max boost is 4.5GHz it barely gets to 4 GHz and throttles. I'm sure I'll gain back more performance if I repasted the CPU with better thermal compound and cleaned the fans but I'm too lazy to do that 

Yeah I bit the bullet an opened up my old HP and the fans were caked with dust.  The improvement was like night and day.

word of warning though I broke one of the hinges so if you go down this route tread carefully 

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On 14/11/2021 at 12:03, beltza said:

Type: Mac desktop

Model: Mac mini (M1, 2020)

CPU Model: 8-core CPU with 4 performance cores and 4 efficiency cores

RAM: 8GB

GPU: 8-core GPU

Graphics Level in 3D: High

Storage Type: SSD

OS: macOS Monterey 12.0.1

Benchmark A: 1 minute 11 seconds

Benchmark B: 6 minutes 4 seconds

Benchmark C: 14 minutes 27 seconds

Was wondering if there were any updates on the native (ARM) Apple M1 version of Football Manager 2022?

Benchmark D: 51 minutes 10 seconds

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1 hour ago, beltza said:

Benchmark D: 51 minutes 10 seconds

Wow. 

Don't think i'll be doing Bench D on my Macbook Air!

To be fair though D is more intended for larger desktops with top end cooling solutions really.  It's the FM equivalent of hammering it with Prime 95.

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Laptop: Asus Tuf Gaming A17

CPU model: AMD Ryzen 9 4900H

Cores/Threads: 8/16

CPU Base Frequency: 3 Ghz

CPU Frequency Turbo Boost: 4,4 Ghz

RAM: 16GB , DDR4 3200mhz, CL22

Storage: 512 GB, M.2 NVMe™ PCIe® 3.0 SSD

System: Windows 10

GPU: GeForce® GTX 1660Ti, 6GB

Graphics Level in 3D: High

 Benchmark A 1:31 💪
 Benchmark B 7:29 😁
 Benchmark C 12:34 🤔
 Benchmark D 37:33 🥵

Voila! Cheers! 🍺

 

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Great to see this running again.

 

Type: PC

Model: Custom built - MSI MEG Unify B550

CPU Model: Ryzen 7 5800X

CPU Base Frequency: 3.8 GHz

CPU Turbo Frequency: 4.7 GHz

RAM: 16GB

RAM Clockspeed: 4000Mhz

GPU: MSI Radeon RX 5600XT Gaming X 6GB

Graphics Level in 3D: Very High

Storage Type: SSD

 

Benchmark A: 52 sec

Benchmark B: 4 min 25 sec

Benchmark C: 8 min 29 sec

Benchmark D: 24 min 58 sec - warmed the room up!

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16 minutes ago, SpS_Zen said:

@XaW Despite having, what seems, better materials in every section, my pc is slower than yours. Could you share with us the tips you use to have a fast laptop?

Well, I use a laptop board that makes sure there is air under the laptop. I also cleaned it not long ago (took off the bottom and removed dirt and blew the whole thing clean with compressed air). Also, I don't know how good you are at actually turning it off occasionally, but many I know just use sleep mode for month on end. Your laptop will like being actually turned off for a few minutes at times. As @Brother Ben wrote, have a look at the temps when you have high load. If they are very high, then perhaps you need some new thermal paste on the processor or something, but I'd start by cleaning things for dust and hair (if you have pets for example).

Check your power settings. I turned my up to "Performance" for this, but I use "Balanced" regularly since I'm not that impatient. :D

Other than that, the regular. Keep drivers up to date, windows update, bios update, and all other types. Make sure to remove bloatware and do a regular scan to make sure you don't have spyware or some other crap. I regularly scan with Malwarebytes and Spybot (I think both are still free).

Shooting from the hip trying to remember the stuff I do! :D 

Hope some of this help you, though.

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Type: Desktop

Model: self build

CPU Model: Ryzen 5 5600X

CPU Base Frequency: 3.60 GHz

CPU Turbo Frequency: 4.85 GHz (PBO enabled)

RAM: 16GB

RAM Clockspeed: 3200Mhz XMP

GPU: GTX 760

Graphics Level in 3D: 3d off, playing in 2d

Storage Type: SSD

Benchmark A: 53 sec

Benchmark B:  4min 32sec

Benchmark C: 10 min 05sec

Benchmark D: 31 min 57 sec (could be faster i think, i was using browser during the test)

 

p.s. CPU hit 80C during D test with Gammax400, but i notice weird behaviour with voltage and frequency, voltage hitting 1.42 all cores, frequency hitting 4.65 all cores. The thing is that during AIDA test its 1.38 and 4.7 under full load. Maybe its my rubbish OC settings, maybe its FM specifics, i dont know.

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14 hours ago, Brother Ben said:

Big thanks for the benchmarks so far, i'll be looking to compile the results onto the spreadsheet in the next couple of weeks once we have a large amount

ill be doing my i7 11700k at some point, I'm really curious  to see if my extra 8 threads are going to be better over my i7 9700k

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Type: PC

Model: Self Built

CPU Model: AMD Ryzen 5800x

CPU Base Frequency: 3.80GHZ

CPU Turbo Frequency: not sure

RAM: 32GB

RAM Clockspeed: 3600Mhz

GPU: 3060TI

Graphics Level in 3D: Very High

Storage Type: SSD

Benchmark A: 53 Sec

Benchmark B: 04 min 30 Sec

Benchmark C: xx min xx Sec

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Type: Custom desktop

Model: Desktop

CPU Model: Intel i7 6700k 4 cores and 8 threads

CPU Base Frequency: 4.0 GHz

CPU Turbo Frequency: 4.2 GHz

RAM: 16GB

RAM Clockspeed: @2133 MHz

GPU: AMD Radeon 5700 XT 8GB

Graphics Level in 3D: Very high

Storage Type: NVMe SSD M.2


Benchmark A: 1 min 23 secs

Benchmark B: 6 min 32 secs

Benchmark C: 19 mins 18 secs ⏱

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On 24/11/2021 at 20:52, Cearven said:

I want to buy i7 12700k, DDR4 4000 Mhz 18CL, Tell me please, how many leagues can i add if I want semi-fast game?

Nobody will know but you unfortunately. Everyone has their different views on what's semi fast as you put it. Only you can judge really but obviously it's a great processor. 

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On 24/11/2021 at 20:52, Cearven said:

I want to buy i7 12700k, DDR4 4000 Mhz 18CL, Tell me please, how many leagues can i add if I want semi-fast game?

Most computers can load all the leagues and all the nations and the largest database.

But the more you load the slower it is. The more seasons  you play - the slower it gets.

It's up to the individual to decide if the amount of leagues/database size they load and the amount of seasons they play is fast enough for them.

1 hour might be slow for me - and fast for you - it's subjective.

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6 hours ago, Smurf said:

Most computers can load all the leagues and all the nations and the largest database.

But the more you load the slower it is. The more seasons  you play - the slower it gets.

It's up to the individual to decide if the amount of leagues/database size they load and the amount of seasons they play is fast enough for them.

1 hour might be slow for me - and fast for you - it's subjective.

Exactly this.

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Type: Desktop

Model: Custom Built

CPU Model: Intel 12700KF

CPU Base Frequency: 3.6/2.7

CPU Turbo Frequency: 4.9/3.8

RAM: 32GB DDR5

RAM Clockspeed: 4800

GPU: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 10GB

Graphics Level in 3D: Very High

Storage Type: 1 x Samsung 970 Pro 1TB

Benchmark A: 0:50

Benchmark B: 4:06

Benchmark C: 7:20

Benchmark D: 20:46

Not optimal tests as I wanted to do them with the things I have running normally when I play (Browser window 2-3 tabs, media server etc.) I don't think there should be too much difference though.

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On 13/11/2021 at 21:13, MataCro7 said:

Type: Desktop

Model: Custom

CPU Model: Intel Pentium G4560

CPU Base Frequency: 3.5GHz

CPU Turbo Frequency: N/A

RAM: 8 GB

RAM Clockspeed: @2400Mhz

GPU: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1050 Ti - 4 GB GDDR5

Graphics Level in 3D: Very High

Storage Type: HDD

 

Benchmark A: 02 min 11Sec

Benchmark B: 08 min 40 Sec

Benchmark C: -

Benchmark D: -

It's definitely improvement over FM21. A and B tests are 2x faster than last years game (A - 3:59, B - 16:25)

Updated with new mb, cpu and memory

Type: Desktop

Model: Custom

CPU Model: Intel i5-11400F

CPU Base Frequency: 2.6 GHz

CPU Turbo Frequency: 4.4 GHz

RAM: 16 GB

RAM Clockspeed: @3200Mhz

GPU: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1050 Ti - 4 GB GDDR5

Graphics Level in 3D: Very High

Storage Type: HDD

 

Benchmark A: 01 min 21 Sec

Benchmark B: 05 min 36 Sec

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For giggles, I did this on a virtual at work. 
 

Type: Cloud-based virtual machine

Model: AWS EC2 Instance type m5zn.12xlarge

CPU Model: Intel Xeon Platinum 8252C  (48 virtual processors)

CPU Base Frequency: 3.80 GHz

CPU Turbo Frequency: 4.50 GHz

RAM: 192GB

GPU: N/A

Benchmark A: 01 min 29 Sec

Benchmark B: 08 min 05 Sec

Benchmark C: 11 min 07 Sec

Benchmark D: 25 min 52 Sec

 

If nothing else, it looks impressive in Task Manager with so many cores on the graph:

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I'll post the results later for the PC that I usually use to play FM.

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6 hours ago, DementedHammer said:

For giggles, I did this on a virtual at work. 
 

Type: Cloud-based virtual machine

Model: AWS EX2 Instance type m5zn.12xlarge

CPU Model: Intel Xeon Platinum 8252C  (48 virtual processors)

CPU Base Frequency: 3.80 GHz

CPU Turbo Frequency: 4.50 GHz

RAM: 192GB

GPU: N/A

Benchmark A: 01 min 29 Sec

Benchmark B: 08 min 05 Sec

Benchmark C: 11 min 07 Sec

Benchmark D: 25 min 52 Sec

 

If nothing else, it looks impressive in Task Manager with so many cores on the graph:

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I'll post the results later for the PC that I usually use to play FM.

Might need a new section on the spreadsheet for that  :D

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7 hours ago, DementedHammer said:

For giggles, I did this on a virtual at work. 
 

Type: Cloud-based virtual machine

Model: AWS EX2 Instance type m5zn.12xlarge

CPU Model: Intel Xeon Platinum 8252C  (48 virtual processors)

CPU Base Frequency: 3.80 GHz

CPU Turbo Frequency: 4.50 GHz

RAM: 192GB

GPU: N/A

Benchmark A: 01 min 29 Sec

Benchmark B: 08 min 05 Sec

Benchmark C: 11 min 07 Sec

Benchmark D: 25 min 52 Sec

 

If nothing else, it looks impressive in Task Manager with so many cores on the graph:

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I'll post the results later for the PC that I usually use to play FM.

Wow. So little difference in low nations and leagues, but huge in playing at full nations and leagues.

Nice! Thank you mate

So, FM22 runs in Windows Server 2019?

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Type: Custom Desktop

Model: Custom

CPU Model: i9-12900KF

CPU Base Frequency: 3.20 GHz

CPU Turbo Frequency: 5.20 GHz

OS: Windows 11 (with game mode off)

RAM: 32GB

RAM Clockspeed: 5200Mhz (ADATA DDR5 38cl)

GPU: 6900xt (msi gaming z trio)

Graphics Level in 3D: Very High

Storage Type: M.2 (Seagate Firecuda 530)

Benchmark A: 46 seconds

Benchmark B: 3mins & 49 seconds

Benchmark C: 6 mins & 32 seconds

Benchmark D: 17 mins & 37 seconds

Max CPU package temp of 81 during Benchmark C
Max CPU package temp of 83 during Benchmark D
 

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Type: Custom Desktop

Model: Custom

CPU Model: Intel Core I3-8100

CPU Base Frequency: 3.60 GHz

CPU Turbo Frequency

RAM: 32GB

RAM Clockspeed: 3200Mhz

GPU: GeForce GTX 1050 Ti

Graphics Level in 3D: High

Storage Type: Samsung SSD 850 EVO

Benchmark A: 01 min 37 Sec

Benchmark B: 07 min 15 Sec

Benchmark C: 27 min 33 Sec

Benchmark D: xx min xx Sec

 

Not to bad for an I3 (Except for Benchmark C)! 

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On 04/12/2021 at 01:35, fc.cadoni said:

So, FM22 runs in Windows Server 2019?

Yeah. I actually set up a more modest cloud-based Windows Server 19 virtual to play with when I'm travelling (g4dn.xlarge). I haven't noticed any issues running FM on Server 19 when I've done so.

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18 minutes ago, nexting said:

I have done the tests but have no idea where to find all the information you require.

I have downloaded CPU-Z and still have no idea what I’m looking at 😬 

What information are you looking for specifically? 

If it's a laptop or you know the components you have, you can just google it

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1 hour ago, nexting said:

I have done the tests but have no idea where to find all the information you require.

I have downloaded CPU-Z and still have no idea what I’m looking at 😬 

just post screenshots of the various tabs from cpu-z and I can work it out from there

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On 14/12/2021 at 17:55, nexting said:

I have done the tests but have no idea where to find all the information you require.

I have downloaded CPU-Z and still have no idea what I’m looking at 😬 

Actually if its a laptop just find the model number and your times and i'll find the rest out.  Model number should be written on the laptop somewhere.

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On 14/11/2021 at 03:31, PineappleBlender said:

I can't prove what Miles said on Twitter several years ago to me on an account I've long since deleted, so I'll understand not taking some random person on the Internet at their word making such an allegation, though it was completely dismissed.

It's not easy, I completely agree. I'm sure it would be a lot of work and you'd have to rewrite probably almost the entire code base to convert it into a format suitable for multi core. It would however be a lot of work that would pay massive dividends. Every single player having a faster game, twice as fast, four times as fast, ten times faster. Players being able to run large amounts of leagues with acceptable loading times.

It's also frankly crazy that this hasn't been a priority since c. 2010 when multi core started becoming a major thing. Especially these days as single core performance is much harder to improve, and there's a trend towards more and more cores.

One thing Miles has done recently is say women's football is being implemented, not for economic factors, but because it's the right thing to do. Yet apparently no one seems to have seriously argued about the massive benefits over the past decade of using 21st century programming design to achieve massive game speedups that other companies could only dream of! If Miles thinks "our game is 10x faster" isn't a good selling point, then I'm not sure what to say. If that isn't a good reason, how about "it's the right thing to do".

The game is getting slower, and with all new features it just makes it worse.

And, there is no significant increase in CPU speed like it was pre 2003.

 

They have to change this, but ignoring it due to cost/time; until players have enough (stop buying new releases) OR there is a good competitor to the monopoly SI holds, SI wont focus completely leaving the singlecore.

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I just built a new pc, and obviously the first thing I needed to do was to run the benchmarks :). The results look great....however still if I start a game myself with 50k players, then FM feels that it corresponds to 2½ Star in speed only :). 

 

Type: Desktop

Model: Custom

CPU Model: i9 - 12900kf

CPU Base Frequency:  3.2 ghz/2.4 ghz

CPU Turbo Frequency: 5.2 ghz/3.9 ghz

RAM: 64GB DDR4 (CL16)

RAM Clockspeed: 3600 Mhz

GPU: Asus Noctua RTX 3070

Graphics Level in 3D: Very High

Storage Type: SSD (PCIe 4) - Samsung Evo 980 pro

 

Benchmark A: 40 sec               (41 sec the second time I ran it)

Benchmark B: 03 min 14 sec  (03 min 20 sec the second time I ran it)

Benchmark C: 05 min 43 sec

Benchmark D: 15 min 36 sec

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Type: Desktop

Model: Custom build

CPU Model: AMD Ryzen 7 5800X

CPU Base Frequency: 3.80 GHz

CPU Turbo Frequency: 4.70 GHz

RAM: Corsair Vengence RGB RS DDR4 3600 mhz 32GB

RAM Clockspeed: 2333Mhz (still  havent unlocked full speed in BIOS)

GPU: ASUS ROG STRIX RTX 3070 Ti

Graphics Level in 3D: Very High

Storage Type: SSD Samsung 980 Pro 1TB NVMe)

Benchmark A: 54 Sec

Benchmark B: 04 min 53 Sec

Benchmark C: 08 min 50 Sec

Benchmark D: 24 min 38 Sec

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9 hours ago, indario said:

Type: Desktop

Model: Custom build

CPU Model: AMD Ryzen 7 5800X

CPU Base Frequency: 3.80 GHz

CPU Turbo Frequency: 4.70 GHz

RAM: Corsair Vengence RGB RS DDR4 3600 mhz 32GB

RAM Clockspeed: 2333Mhz (still  havent unlocked full speed in BIOS)

GPU: ASUS ROG STRIX RTX 3070 Ti

Graphics Level in 3D: Very High

Storage Type: SSD Samsung 980 Pro 1TB NVMe)

Benchmark A: 54 Sec

Benchmark B: 04 min 53 Sec

Benchmark C: 08 min 50 Sec

Benchmark D: 24 min 38 Sec

Small update. I unlocked RAM speed to 3600 mhz in BIOS.

Tested again with Benchmark B and I got 4 min 15 sec.

Little dissapointed that RAM speed  doesn't have bigger effect.

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On 22/12/2021 at 07:56, indario said:

Small update. I unlocked RAM speed to 3600 mhz in BIOS.

Tested again with Benchmark B and I got 4 min 15 sec.

Little dissapointed that RAM speed  doesn't have bigger effect.

I'm pretty sure the way FM is optimised (:rolleyes:) CPU speed has the bigger impact

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