andydick Posted November 29, 2022 Share Posted November 29, 2022 2 hours ago, lionel messi said: I did not know their was a scouting budget, i thought their was just a scouting package. Where do i find scouting budget. I'm not sure you do ... I've done a bit of digging. The scouting package seems to determine the scouting budget but once the game is running the scouting budget can be changed (by either adding transfer budget to it, or reducing it by allocating to the transfer budget). As an example, I had a budget of 97K and the England scout package (cost 87K). I re-allocated 50K of the scouting budget to my transfer budget (meaning my scouting budget was now 47K) but I still had the England package. If they were linked throughout the game the package should have dropped to one that I could afford. If you don't set a scouting package then the game defaults to 'All of England' and you get around 95K - this explained why Dover (in one of my earlier posts) had such a high budget yet Bromley had 25Kish. Dover had no scouting package set. Bromley had 'Own Division'. For the purposes of the save, I'd probably go with Own Division for tier 7 and none for tiers 8-10. It's your call though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dℍaisa Posted November 29, 2022 Share Posted November 29, 2022 11 minutes ago, andydick said: I'm not sure you do ... I've done a bit of digging. The scouting package seems to determine the scouting budget but once the game is running the scouting budget can be changed (by either adding transfer budget to it, or reducing it by allocating to the transfer budget). As an example, I had a budget of 97K and the England scout package (cost 87K). I re-allocated 50K of the scouting budget to my transfer budget (meaning my scouting budget was now 47K) but I still had the England package. If they were linked throughout the game the package should have dropped to one that I could afford. If you don't set a scouting package then the game defaults to 'All of England' and you get around 95K - this explained why Dover (in one of my earlier posts) had such a high budget yet Bromley had 25Kish. Dover had no scouting package set. Bromley had 'Own Division'. For the purposes of the save, I'd probably go with Own Division for tier 7 and none for tiers 8-10. It's your call though. oh i see , i am playing a lower league german DB and i think the creator forgot/didn't set any scouting package, as a result my tier 6 german team has a budget of 156K$ lol... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mars_Blackmon Posted November 29, 2022 Share Posted November 29, 2022 23 minutes ago, andydick said: I'm not sure you do ... I've done a bit of digging. The scouting package seems to determine the scouting budget but once the game is running the scouting budget can be changed (by either adding transfer budget to it, or reducing it by allocating to the transfer budget). As an example, I had a budget of 97K and the England scout package (cost 87K). I re-allocated 50K of the scouting budget to my transfer budget (meaning my scouting budget was now 47K) but I still had the England package. If they were linked throughout the game the package should have dropped to one that I could afford. If you don't set a scouting package then the game defaults to 'All of England' and you get around 95K - this explained why Dover (in one of my earlier posts) had such a high budget yet Bromley had 25Kish. Dover had no scouting package set. Bromley had 'Own Division'. For the purposes of the save, I'd probably go with Own Division for tier 7 and none for tiers 8-10. It's your call though. My point was that the scouting budget is 109k no what what you set the scouting package in the editor. The only effect I see setting lower teams to none is to help them from going into debt. But as a user, we can switch from none to scout the entire England with the 109k budget or switch it over into the transfer budget. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lionel messi Posted November 29, 2022 Author Share Posted November 29, 2022 5 hours ago, andydick said: I'm not sure you do ... I've done a bit of digging. The scouting package seems to determine the scouting budget but once the game is running the scouting budget can be changed (by either adding transfer budget to it, or reducing it by allocating to the transfer budget). As an example, I had a budget of 97K and the England scout package (cost 87K). I re-allocated 50K of the scouting budget to my transfer budget (meaning my scouting budget was now 47K) but I still had the England package. If they were linked throughout the game the package should have dropped to one that I could afford. If you don't set a scouting package then the game defaults to 'All of England' and you get around 95K - this explained why Dover (in one of my earlier posts) had such a high budget yet Bromley had 25Kish. Dover had no scouting package set. Bromley had 'Own Division'. For the purposes of the save, I'd probably go with Own Division for tier 7 and none for tiers 8-10. It's your call though. This is how i have it set up at the moment. National League - Nation - Senior. National League North/South - Surrounding Divisions - Senior. Regional Premier Divisions/1st Divisions. Own Division - Senior. Level 9/10 - None. just doing a few demo games to see what happens. I started with a Level 10 team and their scouting budget was 95k but no scouting package. holidayed a couple of months and nothing went out of the finances for scouting. i started a fresh save with a Level 8 save and their scouting budget was 95k but their scouting package was regional 1st divisions £17.5k (1.5k p/m) Im thinking it might be better to have Level 7-10 on none and then maybe tone down the national leagues down a little bit, what do you all think about that? Then it is up to the player if they want to take the risk of alter their scouting package at the cost of potentially putting the club into a bit of debt. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lionel messi Posted November 29, 2022 Author Share Posted November 29, 2022 5 hours ago, Mars_Blackmon said: My point was that the scouting budget is 109k no what what you set the scouting package in the editor. The only effect I see setting lower teams to none is to help them from going into debt. But as a user, we can switch from none to scout the entire England with the 109k budget or switch it over into the transfer budget. You can even alter it to world. But i have no control over this unless their is something in advanced rules which is possible to do when i get in their. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andydick Posted November 30, 2022 Share Posted November 30, 2022 On 29/11/2022 at 22:21, lionel messi said: This is how i have it set up at the moment. National League - Nation - Senior. National League North/South - Surrounding Divisions - Senior. Regional Premier Divisions/1st Divisions. Own Division - Senior. Level 9/10 - None. just doing a few demo games to see what happens. I started with a Level 10 team and their scouting budget was 95k but no scouting package. holidayed a couple of months and nothing went out of the finances for scouting. i started a fresh save with a Level 8 save and their scouting budget was 95k but their scouting package was regional 1st divisions £17.5k (1.5k p/m) Im thinking it might be better to have Level 7-10 on none and then maybe tone down the national leagues down a little bit, what do you all think about that? Then it is up to the player if they want to take the risk of alter their scouting package at the cost of potentially putting the club into a bit of debt. Re "I started with a Level 10 team and their scouting budget was 95k but no scouting package. holidayed a couple of months and nothing went out of the finances for scouting. i started a fresh save with a Level 8 save and their scouting budget was 95k but their scouting package was regional 1st divisions £17.5k (1.5k p/m)" That makes sense, and the default packages look correct, but since you have a ridiculously high scouting budget, what's stopping you simply selecting one of the much larger packages instead (and therefore getting a much larger player base) or transferring some of the 95K to your transfer budget and walking through the league that way. This is the issue (as Mars_Blackmon raised) .... the scouting budget doesn't seem to change. Taking Bromley as my example, it doesn't matter what package I select in the editor the scouting budget is always 27K but I can't see anywhere where that value can be changed. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lionel messi Posted November 30, 2022 Author Share Posted November 30, 2022 4 minutes ago, andydick said: Re "I started with a Level 10 team and their scouting budget was 95k but no scouting package. holidayed a couple of months and nothing went out of the finances for scouting. i started a fresh save with a Level 8 save and their scouting budget was 95k but their scouting package was regional 1st divisions £17.5k (1.5k p/m)" That makes sense, and the default packages look correct, but since you have a ridiculously high scouting budget, what's stopping you simply selecting one of the much larger packages instead (and therefore getting a much larger player base) or transferring some of the 95K to your transfer budget and walking through the league that way. This is the issue (as Mars_Blackmon raised) .... the scouting budget doesn't seem to change. Taking Bromley as my example, it doesn't matter what package I select in the editor the scouting budget is always 27K but I can't see anywhere where that value can be changed. I bet this is same for very high rep clubs also 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cel1234 Posted December 1, 2022 Share Posted December 1, 2022 How did you get the FA Cup to work i put in 640 teams but its saying i have 732 ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lionel messi Posted December 1, 2022 Author Share Posted December 1, 2022 1 minute ago, cel1234 said: How did you get the FA Cup to work i put in 640 teams but its saying i have 732 ? I had to redo the FA Cup then add it back in because of the qualifying rounds. I actually have 796 teams in my FA Cup so a few teams from Level 10 can enter. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cel1234 Posted December 1, 2022 Share Posted December 1, 2022 (edited) Ok thanks cos making it down to 640 doesnt work with editor. 11 minutes ago, lionel messi said: I had to redo the FA Cup then add it back in because of the qualifying rounds. I actually have 796 teams in my FA Cup so a few teams from Level 10 can enter. Edited December 1, 2022 by cel1234 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lionel messi Posted December 1, 2022 Author Share Posted December 1, 2022 8 minutes ago, cel1234 said: Ok thanks cos making it down to 640 doesnt work with editor. some divisions only have 10 teams entering thats why its only 640 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cel1234 Posted December 1, 2022 Share Posted December 1, 2022 (edited) Yes i made them down to that so there was 640 as that is the number of teams that entered the competition this season. Edited December 1, 2022 by cel1234 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lionel messi Posted December 1, 2022 Author Share Posted December 1, 2022 11 minutes ago, cel1234 said: Yes i made them down to that so there was 640 as that is the number of teams that entered the competition this season. There is 732 teams this year and that is what it is normally every year. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cel1234 Posted December 1, 2022 Share Posted December 1, 2022 20 minutes ago, lionel messi said: There is 732 teams this year and that is what it is normally every year. Im getting that number cos thats whats in qualifying haha Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lionel messi Posted December 1, 2022 Author Share Posted December 1, 2022 (edited) Scouting package set for L5-L10 done. Media policies removed for L7-L10. Contracts set for L7-L10. going to start having a look at facilities and attendances now. Edited December 1, 2022 by lionel messi 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lionel messi Posted December 1, 2022 Author Share Posted December 1, 2022 2 minutes ago, cel1234 said: Im getting that number cos thats whats in qualifying haha oh i see you forgot about the rest of the teams lol Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cel1234 Posted December 1, 2022 Share Posted December 1, 2022 Its doing me head in now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cwattyeso Posted December 1, 2022 Share Posted December 1, 2022 Currently playing with the Tier 8 Database and managing a team in the Pitching In Northern League Division One South East and notice that at the end of each month when the awards are handed out for Player of the Month, Young Player of the Month, Goal of the Month etc the email in the inbox doesn't include the competition name or the actual award name. The text just abruptly cuts off before it tells you what the award is. I know this is a probably just a cosmetic thing and not very important but worth reporting anyway. I also find it a bit weird that the club I'm managing has a Reserve Team with about 4 players who never seem to play in any matches, but have more coaching staff then the actual first team. They have an Under 23 Team again with only about 6 players and they have an Under 18 Team. Seems a bit excessive for that level and especially when in real life they just have a first team and then an academy team for the under 18s, no other teams inbetween. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lionel messi Posted December 1, 2022 Author Share Posted December 1, 2022 1 minute ago, cwattyeso said: Currently playing with the Tier 8 Database and managing a team in the Pitching In Northern League Division One South East and notice that at the end of each month when the awards are handed out for Player of the Month, Young Player of the Month, Goal of the Month etc the email in the inbox doesn't include the competition name or the actual award name. The text just abruptly cuts off before it tells you what the award is. I know this is a probably just a cosmetic thing and not very important but worth reporting anyway. I also find it a bit weird that the club I'm managing has a Reserve Team with about 4 players who never seem to play in any matches, but have more coaching staff then the actual first team. They have an Under 23 Team again with only about 6 players and they have an Under 18 Team. Seems a bit excessive for that level and especially when in real life they just have a first team and then an academy team for the under 18s, no other teams inbetween. I think it is because the award names are too long, it has always been the case with this, if you go under the awards tab on the competion page it should display correctly on there. What team are you? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
theHDTreatment Posted December 1, 2022 Share Posted December 1, 2022 (edited) Tested level 7 and 8 and cant buy any players. Holidayed for a few months at a few different teams and the -100 number does not change. Also (don't know if its related) but the loan rules look funky as well. Only makes reference to foreign players. Edited December 1, 2022 by theHDTreatment Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lionel messi Posted December 1, 2022 Author Share Posted December 1, 2022 31 minutes ago, theHDTreatment said: Tested level 7 and 8 and cant buy any players. Holidayed for a few months at a few different teams and the -100 number does not change. Also (don't know if its related) but the loan rules look funky as well. Only makes reference to foreign players. Why cant you buy any players? Anyone else unable to buy any players? the -100 number does not change because there is no transfer window set up yet in the lower levels, same for the loan rules. These will be done when i get into advanced rules and will be fully working when the full Level 10 release is done. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
theHDTreatment Posted December 1, 2022 Share Posted December 1, 2022 14 minutes ago, lionel messi said: Why cant you buy any players? This happens regardless of whether they are at a club or not. Looks like the lack of of a transfer window means no signings are allowed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lionel messi Posted December 1, 2022 Author Share Posted December 1, 2022 7 minutes ago, theHDTreatment said: This happens regardless of whether they are at a club or not. Looks like the lack of of a transfer window means no signings are allowed. Does that team have a transfer ban for any reason? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cplpeters1900 Posted December 1, 2022 Share Posted December 1, 2022 I reckon you have selected first window no transfers! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
theHDTreatment Posted December 1, 2022 Share Posted December 1, 2022 I've tried several teams in level 7 and 8. All have same issue. Every other league is fine. I havent selected no transfers for first window. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lionel messi Posted December 1, 2022 Author Share Posted December 1, 2022 1 hour ago, theHDTreatment said: I've tried several teams in level 7 and 8. All have same issue. Every other league is fine. I havent selected no transfers for first window. Are you running any other files that are possibly causing a conflict because no one else seems to be having this issue? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lionel messi Posted December 1, 2022 Author Share Posted December 1, 2022 Reputation of some teams adjusted at Level 9,10 because they are set very low in the default database. Facilities all now done down to Level 10. Onto looking at attendances now. Another 2-3 days and i think i will be onto the advanced rules. Another 7-10 days after that i think the database will be ready if all goes good with testing. 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FCUtdWill Posted December 2, 2022 Share Posted December 2, 2022 20 hours ago, cel1234 said: Its doing me head in now. Save your editor data file as an xml, open the xml in a text editor, find the FA Cup by its ID, manually change the number of teams, save the file. Reload the database and your file. If it’s worked, save your xml back as an fmf. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocker93 Posted December 2, 2022 Share Posted December 2, 2022 I see same issue as mentioned by theHDTreatment - there is -100 days of Restricted Transfer Window, with Transfer Activity first window not being disabled during setup. Checked on teams from div 8 and div 9, so it's not only on WIP 9th and 10th. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lionel messi Posted December 2, 2022 Author Share Posted December 2, 2022 13 minutes ago, Rocker93 said: I see same issue as mentioned by theHDTreatment - there is -100 days of Restricted Transfer Window, with Transfer Activity first window not being disabled during setup. Checked on teams from div 8 and div 9, so it's not only on WIP 9th and 10th. It must be something with how you have your game setup. Level 9 is not even activated. Are you sure you are not using a differnt file to this one? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocker93 Posted December 2, 2022 Share Posted December 2, 2022 Sorry, can't count, meant 7-8th. Yes, I'm positive, I run only your database from this thread. I think I found the issue - there are only base game advanced rules set for England, so up to 4-5 (VNL and South/North), there are no rules for 6 and 7, so 7th and 8th tier. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lionel messi Posted December 2, 2022 Author Share Posted December 2, 2022 1 minute ago, Rocker93 said: Sorry, can't count, meant 7-8th. Yes, I'm positive, I run only your database from this thread. I think I found the issue - there are only base game advanced rules set for England, so up to 4-5 (VNL and South/North), there are no rules for 6 and 7, so 7th and 8th tier. Yes i have already said once i go into advanced rules a little bit further up the page i will be adding the transfer windows & loans in beyond Level 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocker93 Posted December 2, 2022 Share Posted December 2, 2022 Hey, that's fine - thank you for your work on the database, I do understand how many things needs to be done to make it work. I just responded to confirm theHDTreatment and that this is not a problem with loadout, but just not done yet. Not that you'd make that many transfers at this level and database is solid, I mean heck, WorkTheSpace started on your database already. Just people that already started long term saves should be aware that until you reach VNN or VNS, there is no transfers at all. Keep up the good work sir! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
theHDTreatment Posted December 2, 2022 Share Posted December 2, 2022 Did a complete re-install, only running your mod, nothing ticked in advanced settings. Same issue. What I find strange, is if others are not experiencing this issue. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocker93 Posted December 2, 2022 Share Posted December 2, 2022 They have to experience it as well. You can add rules for transfer window yourself if you know your way around editor. I manually changed existing rule of transfer for vanarama and applied to all levels below in database and it kinda works - it's now open pretty much all the time But I would wait for final version from lionel as he probably knows more about editor then we all combined. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
potbellypigs Posted December 2, 2022 Share Posted December 2, 2022 It says restricted on my game but I've been able to buy and sell players just fine. Currently playing in the Northern Premier League Division 1 Midlands Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lionel messi Posted December 2, 2022 Author Share Posted December 2, 2022 12 minutes ago, potbellypigs said: It says restricted on my game but I've been able to buy and sell players just fine. Currently playing in the Northern Premier League Division 1 Midlands I dont why a couple of you are experiencing this. Have you had a look at your budgets? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cel1234 Posted December 3, 2022 Share Posted December 3, 2022 16 hours ago, FCUtdWill said: Save your editor data file as an xml, open the xml in a text editor, find the FA Cup by its ID, manually change the number of teams, save the file. Reload the database and your file. If it’s worked, save your xml back as an fmf. I did it in Advanced and got it working thanks Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OptimusPrime Posted December 3, 2022 Share Posted December 3, 2022 How far are you away from releasing level 10 buddy? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lionel messi Posted December 3, 2022 Author Share Posted December 3, 2022 16 minutes ago, OptimusPrime said: How far are you away from releasing level 10 buddy? I think about 7-10 days if all goes well with testing. I think i will be on advanced rules tomorrow. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuniverse Posted December 3, 2022 Share Posted December 3, 2022 21 minutes ago, lionel messi said: I think about 7-10 days if all goes well with testing. I think i will be on advanced rules tomorrow. Thank you for all your hard work, @lionel messi. I'm looking forward to this. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
zamotasuplany Posted December 3, 2022 Share Posted December 3, 2022 (edited) Is it possible to release level 8 earlier with a revised scouting budget and transfer window? Thank you for your work. @lionel messi Edited December 3, 2022 by zamotasuplany Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lionel messi Posted December 3, 2022 Author Share Posted December 3, 2022 9 minutes ago, zamotasuplany said: Is it possible to release level 8 earlier with a revised scouting budget and transfer window? Thank you for your work. I cant alter the scouting budget, it defaults to 95K. Scouting packages have been altered though. It will not be possible to release another Level 8 because i have 2 differnt files, 1 for Level 8 & 1 for Level 10. The transfer window cant be altered until i get into advanced rules (tommorow) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaddyBarbz89 Posted December 3, 2022 Share Posted December 3, 2022 Back on Football Manager after 3 years away and I am looking forward to playing with my local team Chelmsley Town at level 10 and seeing how far I can take them! Thank you for your continued hard work on this database Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jam jameson Posted December 3, 2022 Share Posted December 3, 2022 22 ore fa, potbellypigs ha scritto: It says restricted on my game but I've been able to buy and sell players just fine. Currently playing in the Northern Premier League Division 1 Midlands me too, restricted in the transfer tab but able to trade players Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lionel messi Posted December 3, 2022 Author Share Posted December 3, 2022 Thanks for all your support. I hope i bring you a file that you are all happy with. 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dℍaisa Posted December 4, 2022 Share Posted December 4, 2022 I have reported lack of scouting budget setting and unrealistically high scouting budget that the game is allocating as a bug here: Please upvote so that it gets resolved quicker... 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lionel messi Posted December 4, 2022 Author Share Posted December 4, 2022 1 hour ago, dℍaisa said: I have reported lack of scouting budget setting and unrealistically high scouting budget that the game is allocating as a bug here: Please upvote so that it gets resolved quicker... The problem is there is no option to change scouting budget that i know of, only a option to change scouting package which for a high percentage of clubs from premier league down to the lower levels is not set anyway. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andydick Posted December 4, 2022 Share Posted December 4, 2022 5 hours ago, lionel messi said: The problem is there is no option to change scouting budget that i know of, only a option to change scouting package which for a high percentage of clubs from premier league down to the lower levels is not set anyway. That's the simple issue .. we need to be able to set the scouting budget for each lower league club. It doesn't seem to be linked to the scouting package because you can change the scouting package (from 'none' to 'world') and the budget stays the same. I can't see anything in the editor (other than scouting package) and it's not in the finances section (as an extra source of income). Very frustrating. Perhaps it's just not a maintainable value within the editor or it's calculated from a number of other values Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lionel messi Posted December 4, 2022 Author Share Posted December 4, 2022 9 minutes ago, andydick said: That's the simple issue .. we need to be able to set the scouting budget for each lower league club. It doesn't seem to be linked to the scouting package because you can change the scouting package (from 'none' to 'world') and the budget stays the same. I can't see anything in the editor (other than scouting package) and it's not in the finances section (as an extra source of income). Very frustrating. Perhaps it's just not a maintainable value within the editor or it's calculated from a number of other values Yes i have had a look around too and cant see anything in there for changing scouting budget. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Create an account or sign in to comment
You need to be a member in order to leave a comment
Create an account
Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!
Register a new accountSign in
Already have an account? Sign in here.
Sign In Now