Lempicka Posted October 23, 2022 Share Posted October 23, 2022 I’m seeing incremental improvements in the ME, but nothing like what we were promised in the ‘levelling-up’ spiel from the Headline Feature Reveal. Many of the same issues that have been discussed on these forums over the last few years have still not been addressed. I hate to say it, but it just looks and feels like an FM22 update. A slightly better ME with manager-timeline and squad planner bolted on. I'm still only halfway through my first season and it is only beta - hopefully things will look better once released and I've a good career save on the go, 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alian62 Posted October 23, 2022 Share Posted October 23, 2022 1 hour ago, Mcfc1894 said: Is anyone noticing a lot of goals from corners Nope actually the opposite 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aim_Less Posted October 23, 2022 Share Posted October 23, 2022 (edited) 3 hours ago, Lempicka said: I’m seeing incremental improvements in the ME, but nothing like what we were promised in the ‘levelling-up’ spiel from the Headline Feature Reveal. Many of the same issues that have been discussed on these forums over the last few years have still not been addressed. I hate to say it, but it just looks and feels like an FM22 update. A slightly better ME with manager-timeline and squad planner bolted on. I'm still only halfway through my first season and it is only beta - hopefully things will look better once released and I've a good career save on the go, Been reading the feedback on this thread and i am glad i am skipping this year. All this could be done via patching Edited October 23, 2022 by Aim_Less 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolf_pd Posted October 23, 2022 Share Posted October 23, 2022 1 hour ago, Matt_1979 said: Could be something, could be nothing but… My MacBook has been fine since downloading the Beta, but just played a game and it got red hot. Has to quit and shut down. Which MacBook do you have from which years? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alian62 Posted October 23, 2022 Share Posted October 23, 2022 59 minutes ago, Lempicka said: I’m seeing incremental improvements in the ME, but nothing like what we were promised in the ‘levelling-up’ spiel from the Headline Feature Reveal. Many of the same issues that have been discussed on these forums over the last few years have still not been addressed. I hate to say it, but it just looks and feels like an FM22 update. A slightly better ME with manager-timeline and squad planner bolted on. I'm still only halfway through my first season and it is only beta - hopefully things will look better once released and I've a good career save on the go, Yeah think I was conned . Almost a scam . The ME is much better but really not much else is giving me the wow factor. Hopefully the pre-editor might have some surprises but im not holding my breath 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ImDaWeasel Posted October 23, 2022 Share Posted October 23, 2022 40 minutes ago, Lempicka said: I’m seeing incremental improvements in the ME, but nothing like what we were promised in the ‘levelling-up’ spiel from the Headline Feature Reveal. Many of the same issues that have been discussed on these forums over the last few years have still not been addressed. I hate to say it, but it just looks and feels like an FM22 update. A slightly better ME with manager-timeline and squad planner bolted on. I'm still only halfway through my first season and it is only beta - hopefully things will look better once released and I've a good career save on the go, Squad planner isn't a bolt on, it's a name change with a change in UI for squad depth. There is literally nothing new about FM23. A better match engine should be a given every year. 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Ace Posted October 23, 2022 Share Posted October 23, 2022 1 hour ago, trevjim said: Really? They actually got rid of it completely? It was so much better than the squad planner is. I don't need to have loads of tabs and plan years in advance for something that will change anyway. just a glance at the squad depth is enough Can't say that I disagree 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
albertluque Posted October 23, 2022 Share Posted October 23, 2022 1 hour ago, trevjim said: Really? They actually got rid of it completely? It was so much better than the squad planner is. I don't need to have loads of tabs and plan years in advance for something that will change anyway. just a glance at the squad depth is enough If you click on show full squad view it changes to something similar but you have to return to the planner to modify it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marko1989 Posted October 23, 2022 Share Posted October 23, 2022 2 hours ago, albertluque said: i believe the graphics are restricted by how dynamic the match engine is. other games such as the PES manager is all fixed animations. There are really no more excuses why 3D looks so poor. 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt_1979 Posted October 23, 2022 Share Posted October 23, 2022 (edited) 36 minutes ago, Wolf_pd said: Which MacBook do you have from which years? 2022 air - M2 Edited October 23, 2022 by Matt_1979 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
treble_yell_:-) Posted October 23, 2022 Share Posted October 23, 2022 2 hours ago, SmurfDude said: Anyone know if its possible to play this on steam deck? I've tried but when I try to bring up the keyboard to enter my first name it always switches to the surname text box. Not a huge deal as I have a pc, but would be nice to be able to continue my save from anywhere It's flawless with the exception of being able to use the on screen keyboard in search bars. Whenever you put the cursor in a text box and bring the KB up it just goes wonky. I started the save on PC and just continued on deck with cloud saves. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crusho79bv Posted October 23, 2022 Share Posted October 23, 2022 There is a BIG PROBLEM in players development, wonderkids and new regens. The physical and mental parts are developing way too much and the technical part not so much I`m in 2027 and it`s a disaster, all players are mental monsters but technically they are championship players all of them....and i`m not talking only about my players, the problem is with all the players in the game Did anyone else noticed this until now??? 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Ace Posted October 23, 2022 Share Posted October 23, 2022 1 minute ago, Crusho79bv said: There is a BIG PROBLEM in players development, wonderkids and new regens. The physical and mental parts are developing way too much and the technical part not so much I`m in 2027 and it`s a disaster, all players are mental monsters but technically they are championship players all of them....and i`m not talking only about my players, the problem is with all the players in the game Did anyone else noticed this until now??? It's very well known Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rp1966 Posted October 23, 2022 Share Posted October 23, 2022 1 minute ago, Crusho79bv said: There is a BIG PROBLEM in players development, wonderkids and new regens. The physical and mental parts are developing way too much and the technical part not so much I`m in 2027 and it`s a disaster, all players are mental monsters but technically they are championship players all of them....and i`m not talking only about my players, the problem is with all the players in the game Did anyone else noticed this until now??? It was mentioned earlier by someone who holidayed into the future. Has been raised and I think is being looked into by SI. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaskedReferee Posted October 23, 2022 Share Posted October 23, 2022 (edited) A couple of games into pre-season and I'm testing the same tactic I used in FM22 with my first-team, U21 and U18 side. All of my teams are having 20-30 shots per games from what is not an overly aggressive tactic (positive mentality, 2 attacking roles in the team and shoot less often TI selected). Is anybody else seeing more shots than they would expect in games? Might just be that I've played a load of terrible teams in pre-season so far that my teams are dominating! Edited October 23, 2022 by MaskedReferee Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crusho79bv Posted October 23, 2022 Share Posted October 23, 2022 1 minute ago, Johnny Ace said: It's very well known 1 minute ago, rp1966 said: It was mentioned earlier by someone who holidayed into the future. Has been raised and I think is being looked into by SI. Thank you guys, it`s no point in playing past 2027 for me, all players look like doggy cr@p Takes all the fun out of playing Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post nb9 Posted October 23, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted October 23, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, Lempicka said: I’m seeing incremental improvements in the ME, but nothing like what we were promised in the ‘levelling-up’ spiel from the Headline Feature Reveal. Many of the same issues that have been discussed on these forums over the last few years have still not been addressed. I hate to say it, but it just looks and feels like an FM22 update. A slightly better ME with manager-timeline and squad planner bolted on. I'm still only halfway through my first season and it is only beta - hopefully things will look better once released and I've a good career save on the go, I agree mate. This is the first version of FM I am feeling extremely short changed. The guys at SI need to respect the loyal fan base it had, people want features - not restructured ways of doing the stuff you could already do and then call it a feature. I am feeling fatigued with the same look and feel of the game & generally underwhelmed so far, the game has been desperate for graphical improvements for years - not just the visual match engine but regen faces & the menus are genuinely shocking, and are of a quality that a one man indie game company could produce. We need better SI. For me this is not an improved game, it's an update. Edited October 23, 2022 by nb9 22 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Ace Posted October 23, 2022 Share Posted October 23, 2022 Just now, Crusho79bv said: Thank you guys, it`s no point in playing past 2027 for me, all players look like doggy cr@p Takes all the fun out of playing It is the Beta to be fair, we're supposed to be finding issues 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crusho79bv Posted October 23, 2022 Share Posted October 23, 2022 Just now, Johnny Ace said: It is the Beta to be fair, we're supposed to be finding issues I know, not angry about this but just saying... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
albertluque Posted October 23, 2022 Share Posted October 23, 2022 Hope they can hotfix the development issue rather than having to start a new save for it to take effect 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
2feet Posted October 23, 2022 Share Posted October 23, 2022 9 hours ago, dannyfc said: Lower league football especially should have more individual technical mistakes. Like you said, defenders desperately clearing their lines under pressure should mostly result in giving away possession. Unless, that defender has especially high composure and passing ability. yes but imagine if mistakes that led to moves breaking down became more common in the ME? The forum would be flooded with complaints from people! ... this is ridiculous! Every time my team tries to build a move some player makes a bad touch and the move is finished! My team can barely put any moves together! What is the point of tactics anymore if my platyers cant do them! SI Games are clueless!!! etc etc etc Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Ace Posted October 23, 2022 Share Posted October 23, 2022 2 minutes ago, Crusho79bv said: I know, not angry about this but just saying... You were bouncing your head off a wall, so I assumed you weren't happy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meraklija Vujevic Posted October 23, 2022 Share Posted October 23, 2022 Last 2 days I was testing match engine extensivly using one Pc and 3 laptops. Some of test was streamed live. I can confirm that this match engine is second worst in Fm history. Defending is realy bad even top teams like City conceding stupid goals. Again most roles are disaster and they dont work at all. Example I done all striker roles test with Halland and by far he was scoring most as advanced forward. This beta have so many issues! 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Ace Posted October 23, 2022 Share Posted October 23, 2022 2 minutes ago, Meraklija Vujevic said: Last 2 days I was testing match engine extensivly using one Pc and 3 laptops. Some of test was streamed live. I can confirm that this match engine is second worst in Fm history. Defending is realy bad even top teams like City conceding stupid goals. Again most roles are disaster and they dont work at all. Example I done all striker roles test with Halland and by far he was scoring most as advanced forward. This beta have so many issues! Have you reported any of this? It's fair enough you think it's bad but now is literally the best time to report issues you find Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
2feet Posted October 23, 2022 Share Posted October 23, 2022 Does anyone else get a bit confused by the wording of Trap Inside and Trap Outside? Trap Outside description says it funnels players towards the wings.... so the trap is actually set inside leading to the ball being funneled outside?? So if the trap is set inside, it seems confusing to call it trap outside? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
albertluque Posted October 23, 2022 Share Posted October 23, 2022 3 minutes ago, 2feet said: Does anyone else get a bit confused by the wording of Trap Inside and Trap Outside? Trap Outside description says it funnels players towards the wings.... so the trap is actually set inside leading to the ball being funneled outside?? So if the trap is set inside, it seems confusing to call it trap outside? Fairly sure you're trying to trap the opponent just to play outside so you can win it back. The trap is set by allowing them outside. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meraklija Vujevic Posted October 23, 2022 Share Posted October 23, 2022 Just now, Johnny Ace said: Have you reported any of this? It's fair enough you think it's bad but now is literally the best time to report issues you find If you ask any tactican like me who creates tactic opinion will be similar We already for few years asking for complete match engine revamp but SI dont want to do nothing. Every year they release completly unbalanced and poor match engine. They focus on some social features who nobody uses but this year they even fail in that segment. Fm 23 beta is poorly patched fm22 with so many issues in every segment! 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Ace Posted October 23, 2022 Share Posted October 23, 2022 3 minutes ago, Meraklija Vujevic said: If you ask any tactican like me who creates tactic opinion will be similar We already for few years asking for complete match engine revamp but SI dont want to do nothing. Every year they release completly unbalanced and poor match engine. They focus on some social features who nobody uses but this year they even fail in that segment. Fm 23 beta is poorly patched fm22 with so many issues in every segment! I didn't ask I suggested reporting it so things can be looked at You won't make any difference to the game unless you do 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
albertluque Posted October 23, 2022 Share Posted October 23, 2022 Really annoying seeing players keep getting contract offers when there is no interest after I've offered one. Sure this would definitely happen with players who have agents but I'm giving guys contracts who have no agents and Dulwich Hamlet turn up making offers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kloppy Posted October 23, 2022 Share Posted October 23, 2022 Is this a bug? Says 'UEFA Nations League A Group 2 - Next Match: Wales (5 days)' at the top of the screen. But in 5 days it's actually the World Cup as the schedule says. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meraklija Vujevic Posted October 23, 2022 Share Posted October 23, 2022 Just now, Johnny Ace said: I didn't ask I suggested reporting it so things can be looked at You won't make any difference to the game unless the do There is no purpose for report! Example in fm 22 how long passed from latest update with match engine changes. Instead of releasing small updates and fixing match engine issues through entire year they dont do nothing for few months Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
XaW Posted October 23, 2022 Share Posted October 23, 2022 32 minutes ago, albertluque said: Hope they can hotfix the development issue rather than having to start a new save for it to take effect They said it would be save compatible, but not retroactive. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
albertluque Posted October 23, 2022 Share Posted October 23, 2022 1 minute ago, XaW said: They said it would be save compatible, but not retroactive. retroactive? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
trueblue.85 Posted October 23, 2022 Share Posted October 23, 2022 Was looking forward to a save in Uruguay this year as never played previously as they didn't have a cup, and they have finally introduced one this season but not in the game https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copa_Uruguay Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KamyKaze Posted October 23, 2022 Share Posted October 23, 2022 34 minutes ago, 2feet said: Does anyone else get a bit confused by the wording of Trap Inside and Trap Outside? Trap Outside description says it funnels players towards the wings.... so the trap is actually set inside leading to the ball being funneled outside?? So if the trap is set inside, it seems confusing to call it trap outside? Back to this again? Not happy with the answers you got 2 days ago? Only you having issues with the way this is worded... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Ace Posted October 23, 2022 Share Posted October 23, 2022 23 minutes ago, Meraklija Vujevic said: There is no purpose for report! Well, there is, so long as it backed up with examples, but if that's how you feel ... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STaphouse Posted October 23, 2022 Share Posted October 23, 2022 Anyone having an issue with midfielders (DM's and CM's) having quite low match ratings? Unless they score or assist it seems impossible for my midfielders to get above a 7.0. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuryBlade Posted October 23, 2022 Share Posted October 23, 2022 21 minutes ago, albertluque said: retroactive? It won’t undo the lack of player technical development up to the point you are in game. Meaning, if a player is 25 in game, and hasn’t developed technically because of the bug, they won’t suddenly get boosts to the technicals after the fix. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reiver Posted October 23, 2022 Share Posted October 23, 2022 I finally found a bug that is currently game breaking for me. Playing in the Canadian league, within the wage budget, just won the playoffs, and every single on of my youth intake players refuses to sign because apparently they believe I lack the funds to even get close to their contract demands... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
harrycarrie Posted October 23, 2022 Share Posted October 23, 2022 (edited) 58 minutes ago, Meraklija Vujevic said: Last 2 days I was testing match engine extensivly using one Pc and 3 laptops. Some of test was streamed live. I can confirm that this match engine is second worst in Fm history. Defending is realy bad even top teams like City conceding stupid goals. Again most roles are disaster and they dont work at all. Example I done all striker roles test with Halland and by far he was scoring most as advanced forward. This beta have so many issues! Likewise. I can make stuff that works well but it capitalises purely on attacking overloads to punish the constant defensive errors. I may concede 3 but damn sure they're conceding 7 etc. The defence aspect of the ME is beyond shocking. I see so much stupid stuff every match. Going forward it can be delightful but Christ almighty its bad. Its like they introduced the randomness, but cranked it up to 11. Last year you could have Conference sides playing like Prime Barca, now its gone the other way where Prime Barca would look like Northwich. Edited October 23, 2022 by harrycarrie 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
2feet Posted October 23, 2022 Share Posted October 23, 2022 30 minutes ago, KamyKaze said: Back to this again? Not happy with the answers you got 2 days ago? Only you having issues with the way this is worded... I replied with why the answers didnt make sense but didnt get any follow up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
zachalxnder Posted October 23, 2022 Share Posted October 23, 2022 Think the update for the development bug should be a hot fix during the BETA to give an adequate idea of long-term playability 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
daveh83 Posted October 23, 2022 Share Posted October 23, 2022 34 minutes ago, zachalxnder said: Think the update for the development bug should be a hot fix during the BETA to give an adequate idea of long-term playability So is this beta playable are not ?? Regarding carrying on for long save ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MBarbaric Posted October 23, 2022 Share Posted October 23, 2022 39 minuti fa, 2feet ha scritto: I replied with why the answers didnt make sense but didnt get any follow up. https://spielverlagerung.com/2014/07/06/examples-of-pressing-traps-in-the-4-1-4-1/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
superposh Posted October 23, 2022 Share Posted October 23, 2022 13 minutes ago, daveh83 said: So is this beta playable are not ?? Regarding carrying on for long save ? Is it playable or not is a hell of a question, you'll get a variety of answers, none of them right or wrong. For me, personally, I've given up with buying before January, that is when the game is playable (for me). I've played beta in previous years but I can't put myself through it again, I have a lot of respect for those that do, as it helps get the game ready for me to enjoy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
zachalxnder Posted October 23, 2022 Share Posted October 23, 2022 17 minutes ago, daveh83 said: So is this beta playable are not ?? Regarding carrying on for long save ? I think it depends on how far into a save you get. Most development is usually around +3 points. There is some development in the game, but not at that level. I think if you’re around 3 years into a save, it will have a big effect. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
M26HFC Posted October 23, 2022 Share Posted October 23, 2022 Yeah not worth worrying about in terms of a long term save, game is practically unplayable after 4/5 seasons right now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
albertluque Posted October 23, 2022 Share Posted October 23, 2022 How have they managed to re-code the game so much that players don't develop properly? Hahaha 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wetfred Posted October 23, 2022 Share Posted October 23, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, daveh83 said: So is this beta playable are not ?? Regarding carrying on for long save ? Lollujo on YT just posted a 100 year save and goes over the development issue at about the 20 minute mark Edited October 23, 2022 by wetfred Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferocious289 Posted October 23, 2022 Share Posted October 23, 2022 I've got to say The M.E is the best out of all fm's I've played, so smooth and fluid, you can see players stop the ball dead before deciding to pass, the collision are better, the touches the players to when recieving the ball, the animations are a lot more realistic. FM22 players felt clunky and like they were moving on rails. Only gripe is every winger still drifts wide or plays it safe like a Sancho irl. Don't see why they couldn't add in step over and fient animations to wingers Hope they do not change too much for final release 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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