teep007 Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 Tomorrow ! 18h Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuryBlade Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 (edited) 4 minutes ago, anagain said: We're only talking 2000. The Playstation had been out years and the second generation of consoles had launched. No ones talking about all younguns, but having City stars playing the game is going to draw an eye. Some around here will doubt for doubt's sake. Kid's these days have PL footballers as their idols, and if these idols show they play the game they might well give it a thought. I think many here do a discredit to the imagination of kids. I can’t make any generic sweeping statements, but my brother is a teenager now. Tried getting him interested in FM a few years back. He enjoyed me explaining what I was doing with my team and during matches, but has no interest at all in playing. Would much rather play Fortnite, Overwatch or FIFA. I think a big barrier to new players is not so much graphics, but the fact the game is very much like a full time admin job. Edited November 7, 2022 by BuryBlade 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fola Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 Was getting my hopes up it would be 8pm tonight. Gutted. Have to spend the night with the Mrs now... 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fc.cadoni Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 4 minutes ago, Dustman2015 said: How accurate is that? I'm relatively new to this FM22 was 19:00 FM21 was 18:00 FM20 was 17:00 FM19 was 15:00 ... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obaaa Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 Where is the hype this year? There was more hype for the beta release. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TopToffee Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 22 minutes ago, SazoJohnno said: Brentford announced it on their twitter few days ago. The rest I have got from SI article here - https://www.footballmanager.com/news/football-manager-2023-licences I cant quite remember where i saw Everton from though to be honest with you. Not sure if i hallucinated it Pretty sure you did, sadly Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
d d Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 Was all these times, the day before launch day. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TopToffee Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 Just now, Obaaa said: Where is the hype this year? There was more hype for the beta release. There’s always more hype for the beta release Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
limey150781 Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 1 minute ago, fc.cadoni said: FM22 was 19:00 FM21 was 18:00 FM20 was 17:00 FM19 was 15:00 ... That's a bit misleading as at least some of these were the day before release date. 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Domoboy23 Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 3 minutes ago, fc.cadoni said: FM22 was 19:00 FM21 was 18:00 FM20 was 17:00 FM19 was 15:00 ... I hope you've not shared that from the alpha release 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrManagerMan Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 It could be a long old night. Might have a game of football manager while I wait… Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
(sic) Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 (edited) 14 minutes ago, dannyfc said: We still had FIFA and PES growing up, it's all relative as at the time the graphic was perceived as ultra realistic. You guys are doing the younger generation a disservice I reckon, the exact same things would have been said 10/20/30/40 years ago. There will definitely be young lads who enjoy statistics and pouring over every detail in a football database. It's more of a personality than an age thing. It definitely is a personality thing as well, but what I've said is also true. Majority of them will just go play FIFA, and only a minority would actually play FM. There's just so much stuff going against FM, from it being a niche game, that's really not for everyone. Then there's horrible graphics, and not that great UI/UX, and things just pile up. Compare that to FIFA, which has great graphics, it's easy to get into, it's immediately fun to play, you don't have to learn so much stuff about it, you don't have to look at data so much, etc. I'm a young person myself, and it took me some time to get into the game, only in my late teens did I really start playing the game. Then it took me a few years to actually learn ins and outs of the game, how to build tactics, how to do x y z, then how to modify and create skins, etc. 10 minutes ago, anagain said: We're only talking 2000. The Playstation had been out years and the second generation of consoles had launched. No ones talking about all younguns, but having City stars playing the game is going to draw an eye. Some around here will doubt for doubt's sake. Kid's these days have PL footballers as their idols, and if these idols show they play the game they might well give it a thought. I think many here do a discredit to the imagination of kids. 2000. was 22 years ago. The level which FM seems to be stuck at, in a few areas currently (mainly graphics). It's definitely going to attract some more kids, I'm not arguing that it won't attract anyone at all. But there are things stopping it from attracting even more people, and a lot of them will be put off by graphics and gameplay. Edited November 7, 2022 by (sic) 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fc.cadoni Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 3 minutes ago, limey150781 said: That's a bit misleading as at least some of these were the day before release date. You can check yourself https://steamdb.info/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fc.cadoni Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 1 minute ago, Domoboy23 said: I hope you've not shared that from the alpha release https://steamdb.info/ 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Domoboy23 Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 Just now, fc.cadoni said: https://steamdb.info/ It was a joke about your previous telling off in the thread over the gender setting! The release date and time on steamdb means nothing, as others have stated. FM22 came out 8pm the evening before despite the release day and time on db being the following day Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
limey150781 Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 1 minute ago, fc.cadoni said: You can check yourself https://steamdb.info/ I dont need to check myself. I know that some of those were the day before official release date. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fc.cadoni Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 Just now, Domoboy23 said: It was a joke about your previous telling off in the thread over the gender setting! The release date and time on steamdb means nothing, as others have stated. FM22 came out 8pm the evening before despite the release day and time on db being the following day Ok. Let's hope tonight Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fc.cadoni Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 Just now, limey150781 said: I dont need to check myself. I know that some of those were the day before official release date. Ok. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rivanov Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 Still not out? :P Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
(sic) Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 (edited) 3 minutes ago, fc.cadoni said: Ok. Let's hope tonight Doubt they will release the game during night time, so it's probably tomorrow afternoon. Edited November 7, 2022 by (sic) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andu1 Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 We might have to wait until midnight gmt Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andu1 Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 Just now, (sic) said: Doubt they will release the game during night time, so it's probably tomorrow afternoon. They released numerous times at midnight... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyburn Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 And you’re saying kids aren’t interested in this game … 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fëanáro Míriel Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 1 dakika önce, anagain said: No, but nor were you. You were giving the age old idea that the game is only playable after patch 3, weren't you. I'd love more patches but what a lot of you don't understand is that patching a game as complex as FM is not merely changing a line of code, or two. Understand that and then criticise patches. I'm not saying the first 2 is useless they still fix a lot of stuff but if there are big problems like wide players shooting from byline or a LOT of over the top balls for 1on1s or passing percentages being too high or IFs not cutting inside it does take until may. It's not unplayable before may but the significant improvments come with that third patch. If there were 2 more patches between may and the new release i would be happy tbh. And every game is complex, SI are hardly an indie company with not enough resources to keep working on the current title without delaying the next, i just find it weird that after all these years they still get away with releasing the last patch half a year before the next game comes out. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fc.cadoni Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 11 minutes ago, Rivanov said: Still not out? :P That's my asking as well Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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themadsheep2001 Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 Where the ME currently is I'd rather they take their time with an update, I'd rather a balanced one in December than an unbalanced one on release. Still got a few niggles that need knocking out but my most enjoyable beta one in years. Still hate the in match UI though, thank god for @michaeltmurrayuk match panels 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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MrManagerMan Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 23 minutes ago, Fola said: Was getting my hopes up it would be 8pm tonight. Gutted. Have to spend the night with the Mrs now... Sorry to hear that Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GOODNAME Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 2 minutes ago, themadsheep2001 said: Where the ME currently is I'd rather they take their time with an update, I'd rather a balanced one in December than an unbalanced one on release. Still got a few niggles that need knocking out but my most enjoyable beta one in years. Still hate the in match UI though, thank god for @michaeltmurrayuk match panels But i remember from old FM's that the ME was different between the beta and the full game I wonder if its the same story this year Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TopToffee Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 Just now, GOODNAME said: But i remember from old FM's that the ME was different between the beta and the full game I wonder if its the same story this year Yes, of course it will be. Will it be the exact flavour of different that any one specific poster on here wants it to be? Almost certainly not. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dagenham_Dave Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 1 minute ago, GOODNAME said: But i remember from old FM's that the ME was different between the beta and the full game I wonder if its the same story this year You will know if the ME version number changes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ManicStreetFootballFan Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 if it's like other major releases it will be out by 9am of release day, if you pre-order any game off PSN or Steam it's almost always unlocked by 9am of the day it's advertised to come out. any later than 9am is a late launch for a major game release. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daz2205 Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 4 minutes ago, themadsheep2001 said: Still hate the in match UI though, thank god for @michaeltmurrayuk match panels As in a skin JUST for the in-match viewing? Would you mind pointing me in the right direction of this? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
themadsheep2001 Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 2 minutes ago, GOODNAME said: But i remember from old FM's that the ME was different between the beta and the full game I wonder if its the same story this year You'll know by the ME numbers. Any change in the ME has to result in a new number or you get massive match divergence issues. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
limey150781 Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 1 minute ago, Daz2205 said: As in a skin JUST for the in-match viewing? Would you mind pointing me in the right direction of this? There are a few around. Just Google "fm23 match day widgets/panels". Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TopToffee Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 Just now, themadsheep2001 said: You'll know by the ME numbers. Any change in the ME has to result in a new number or you get massive match divergence issues. Has the ME version ever NOT changed between beta and full release? I'd be very surprised. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daz2205 Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 Just now, limey150781 said: There are a few around. Just Google "fm23 match day widgets/panels". Much appreciated, thank you! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
themadsheep2001 Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 1 minute ago, Daz2205 said: As in a skin JUST for the in-match viewing? Would you mind pointing me in the right direction of this? It's panels. Can go into most skins, including the default one https://michaeltmurrayuk.blogspot.com/2020/12/football-manager-2021-match-screens-mod.html?m=1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
themadsheep2001 Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 1 minute ago, TopToffee said: Has the ME version ever NOT changed between beta and full release? I'd be very surprised. A few times tbf. Normally because they've not been quite happy with whatever upcoming changes they want to implement, so they use it as a base and release a bit later Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daz2205 Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 1 minute ago, themadsheep2001 said: It's panels. Can go into most skins, including the default one https://michaeltmurrayuk.blogspot.com/2020/12/football-manager-2021-match-screens-mod.html?m=1 Ooof, much appreciated! So much info is lost during games and all these skins that have match day additions look so good but I'm not a "skin" person so having just match day ones are a blessing! Didn't know this was a thing 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
baris28 Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 1 saat önce, anagain said: I think it's always been a concern that FM is a game for the oldies more than it is the young...ies. So to get Gundogan, Foden, Rodri et al for that trailer really could open eyes on FM to a newer audience. Good stuff, SI And I love the fact it's been out so little time on YT that some people are probably asking "what trailer?" I think they work for ethnic diversities than looking for younger ones. New players are not dumb if any function in the game not working as designed. It was the critism for SI. Imagine board wargame designer making a game putting a function ıt doesn't work or have no use. It will bankrupt quickly. Graphics doesn't matter also Vampire Survivors recently shows. Anyway I suppose 20 mins left to be released? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuzzR Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 25 minutes ago, (sic) said: It definitely is a personality thing as well, but what I've said is also true. Majority of them will just go play FIFA, and only a minority would actually play FM. There's just so much stuff going against FM, from it being a niche game, that's really not for everyone. Then there's horrible graphics, and not that great UI/UX, and things just pile up. Compare that to FIFA, which has great graphics, it's easy to get into, it's immediately fun to play, you don't have to learn so much stuff about it, you don't have to look at data so much, etc. My son is almost 17.. and he has seen me play FM thousands of hours in the past years. Every time I'm getting excited because I've just won National League with whatever club, he looks at me with sad eyes like " dude, you're gone" . I could not convert him . I think the personality is definitely a factor.. he's relentless, energetic and the games he plays reflect that : Overwatch / Call of Duty, Starcraft, NBA 2K. At some point we both have played FIFA. The taste for more settled down, slow paced, build your own adventure in your head type of games - will come for him ( and the likes of him ) later in life. It's ok. People change. 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazy_merch Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 Come on Guys, bring it out... Please let me stop watching Bracknell Town - Ipswich and/or Rayo Vallecano - Real Madrid... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Domoboy23 Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 The ME has already been confirmed by Neil I think as having a different ME build. You can also see which bugs have been resolved by going onto the bug tracker and filtering by resolved Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
themadsheep2001 Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 Just now, Domoboy23 said: The ME has already been confirmed by Neil I think as having a different ME build. You can also see which bugs have been resolved by going onto the bug tracker and filtering by resolved I'm not sure I've seen that anywhere but we'll find out in release Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiingallen Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 11 minutes ago, BuzzR said: My son is almost 17.. and he has seen me play FM thousands of hours in the past years. Every time I'm getting excited because I've just won National League with whatever club, he looks at me with sad eyes like " dude, you're gone" . I could not convert him . I think the personality is definitely a factor.. he's relentless, energetic and the games he plays reflect that : Overwatch / Call of Duty, Starcraft, NBA 2K. At some point we both have played FIFA. The taste for more settled down, slow paced, build your own adventure in your head type of games - will come for him ( and the likes of him ) later in life. It's ok. People change. I’ve been playing football manager since 00/01 (back then Championship Manager). I was barely in double figures in age when I started 😅 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Domoboy23 Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 3 minutes ago, themadsheep2001 said: I'm not sure I've seen that anywhere but we'll find out in release So no direct confirmation in regards to the ME version (my bad) but the fact some ME issues are marked as resolved in the bug tracker suggests so. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheArsenal63 Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 1 hour ago, anagain said: Rubbish. Young people play Rimworld, Among Us (if that's the correct title) etc. Graphics aren't everything. I do agree there are some who might baulk, but not just at the graphics, but the strength of FM is in it's gameplay and the strength of this year's match engine and the database. Nothing comes close to FM in that regard. Some tidying up and improving of the UI and some social features is needed but I have no doubt there are younguns that could love FM. Even I was young when I first played...didn't even have graphics then...just circles. EDIT: Actually it didn't even have circles back then. Just text. And, to add. The FM discord I chat on is all young people and many of them. They seem to love the game. Not at all, young football fans are usually the FIFA crowd nowadays. I did caveat that. And people who play Rimworld who are not football fans are not playing football manager. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
zachalxnder Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 (edited) So, between midnight and 9:00 GMT ... Edited November 7, 2022 by zachalxnder Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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